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can vt ban our away support?

Mon Feb 25, 2013 1:46 pm

Great win, great performance,but the real winner for me yesterday was once again the ccfc away support. After the tuesday night fiasco they were once again superb.

It does though raise a few questions..

1. Is our home and away support the most divided it has ever been?

2. After giving out all them free red scaves tuesday, and only a very small ammount on show at wolves out of a crowd of 2600 yesterday it is becoming obvious that our away support are not buying in to the clubs red visión (we didnt play in our blue away kit again yesterday) though unlike tuesday, blue outnumberd red by about 100 to 1.

Do you think the club and tan will put up with this much longer? Could the club actually ban our away support? Or at the least, start trying to lay down certain bribes or conditions? It may sound far fetched but after tuesday night nothing would suprise me.

3. When is the next time our club will play in blue? After yesterday, and the events of the past week surely it would be a good idea if the club sent out the boys for our next away game against boro (who play in red) dressed in blue?

Re: can vt ban our away support?

Mon Feb 25, 2013 1:54 pm

No, there's no way he could 'ban' our support, it'd be against our freedom of speech, he doesn't need us to be wearing red away from home, all the promotional work in his idea will have photographs from people at home. The streaming he has over in Malaysia is all based at home as well.

Re: can vt ban our away support?

Mon Feb 25, 2013 2:06 pm

I Bleed Blue wrote:No, there's no way he could 'ban' our support, it'd be against our freedom of speech, he doesn't need us to be wearing red away from home, all the promotional work in his idea will have photographs from people at home. The streaming he has over in Malaysia is all based at home as well.


Yes, thought so, but what if we clinch the league away from home and all the celebrations on media world wide show a mass of blue away support and hardly any red in sight? I cant imagine that going down well with vt. It wouldnt surprise me if the club tried to pull a rabbit out of the hat with regards to our away support next season.

Re: can vt ban our away support?

Mon Feb 25, 2013 2:09 pm

Why would he want to ban the away support? do you think the away support is anti red, because you couldn't be more mistaken, the vast majority support the club and aren't that bothered about the colour, in all honesty 90% of the mates I travel with have never and don't own scarves or club shirts.

Don't think a lack of red scarves signified anything different to any away game we have had this season, to be honest barring Tuesday's game, any one attending wouldn't really be aware anything was going on, especially to he scale you would imagine from the internet.

In my humble opinion, those against have little platform to express their frustrations other than on a message board, because at games they are anonymous, whereas the huge majority aren't bothered about colour and just get behind the team and go along with what's best for the club rather than what suits them personally. :old:

Re: can vt ban our away support?

Mon Feb 25, 2013 2:31 pm

BigGwynram wrote:Why would he want to ban the away support? do you think the away support is anti red, because you couldn't be more mistaken, the vast majority support the club and aren't that bothered about the colour, in all honesty 90% of the mates I travel with have never and don't own scarves or club shirts.

Don't think a lack of red scarves signified anything different to any away game we have had this season, to be honest barring Tuesday's game, any one attending wouldn't really be aware anything was going on, especially to he scale you would imagine from the internet.

In my humble opinion, those against have little platform to express their frustrations other than on a message board, because at games they are anonymous, whereas the huge majority aren't bothered about colour and just get behind the team and go along with what's best for the club rather than what suits them personally. :old:


True in part. Ive never wore club colours home or away, i think most of our away support is the same. Not having a go at those who do, its just personal prefrence.

But you cant deny that of the fans wearing club colours yesterday the blue outgunned the red by about 100 to 1. This after the great red scarf give away on tuesday night. Why?

Re: can vt ban our away support?

Mon Feb 25, 2013 2:36 pm

Just because you don't wear a shirt/scarf doesn't mean you don't care about the colour.

I normally never wear either and care very much about it.

Re: can vt ban our away support?

Mon Feb 25, 2013 2:37 pm

i would like to nominate this post......the most stupidest post 2013

Re: can vt ban our away support?

Mon Feb 25, 2013 2:41 pm

jama wrote:
BigGwynram wrote:Why would he want to ban the away support? do you think the away support is anti red, because you couldn't be more mistaken, the vast majority support the club and aren't that bothered about the colour, in all honesty 90% of the mates I travel with have never and don't own scarves or club shirts.

Don't think a lack of red scarves signified anything different to any away game we have had this season, to be honest barring Tuesday's game, any one attending wouldn't really be aware anything was going on, especially to he scale you would imagine from the internet.

In my humble opinion, those against have little platform to express their frustrations other than on a message board, because at games they are anonymous, whereas the huge majority aren't bothered about colour and just get behind the team and go along with what's best for the club rather than what suits them personally. :old:


True in part. Ive never wore club colours home or away, i think most of our away support is the same. Not having a go at those who do, its just personal prefrence.

But you cant deny that of the fans wearing club colours yesterday the blue outgunned the red by about 100 to 1. This after the great red scarf give away on tuesday night. Why?


Because deep down most of us really want us to revert to BLUE even though most of us are accepting what's happening at the moment for the sake of the Club. :ayatollah:

Re: can vt ban our away support?

Mon Feb 25, 2013 2:48 pm

jama wrote:
BigGwynram wrote:Why would he want to ban the away support? do you think the away support is anti red, because you couldn't be more mistaken, the vast majority support the club and aren't that bothered about the colour, in all honesty 90% of the mates I travel with have never and don't own scarves or club shirts.

Don't think a lack of red scarves signified anything different to any away game we have had this season, to be honest barring Tuesday's game, any one attending wouldn't really be aware anything was going on, especially to he scale you would imagine from the internet.

In my humble opinion, those against have little platform to express their frustrations other than on a message board, because at games they are anonymous, whereas the huge majority aren't bothered about colour and just get behind the team and go along with what's best for the club rather than what suits them personally. :old:


True in part. Ive never wore club colours home or away, i think most of our away support is the same. Not having a go at those who do, its just personal prefrence.

But you cant deny that of the fans wearing club colours yesterday the blue outgunned the red by about 100 to 1. This after the great red scarf give away on tuesday night. Why?


probably something to do with the variety of home shirts being blue bar 1 that people will wear. I have loads of Cardiff shirts from over the seasons, I also have this seasons home shirt, I buy the new shirt every year some people dont. Some people will wear shirts to games some wont, some people dont buy shirts every year. What you have to ask is are people wearing blue shirts because its their protest or its just the clean one they put on this morning or the only shirt they own.

Why create barriers when there is no need to create one. Wear red or wear blue everyone is still a Cardiff fan maybe people should remember that.

Re: can vt ban our away support?

Mon Feb 25, 2013 2:50 pm

Jesus Christ, I thought I'd seen it all on this forum but this takes the biscuit.

You cannot be for real?!

Re: can vt ban our away support?

Mon Feb 25, 2013 2:54 pm

Gonzo wrote:Jesus Christ, I thought I'd seen it all on this forum but this takes the biscuit.

You cannot be for real?!


Question 2 was a jokey exaggeration but can you answer me questions 1 and 3 ?

Re: can vt ban our away support?

Mon Feb 25, 2013 3:01 pm

JONNY012697 wrote:
jama wrote:
BigGwynram wrote:Why would he want to ban the away support? do you think the away support is anti red, because you couldn't be more mistaken, the vast majority support the club and aren't that bothered about the colour, in all honesty 90% of the mates I travel with have never and don't own scarves or club shirts.

Don't think a lack of red scarves signified anything different to any away game we have had this season, to be honest barring Tuesday's game, any one attending wouldn't really be aware anything was going on, especially to he scale you would imagine from the internet.

In my humble opinion, those against have little platform to express their frustrations other than on a message board, because at games they are anonymous, whereas the huge majority aren't bothered about colour and just get behind the team and go along with what's best for the club rather than what suits them personally. :old:


True in part. Ive never wore club colours home or away, i think most of our away support is the same. Not having a go at those who do, its just personal prefrence.

But you cant deny that of the fans wearing club colours yesterday the blue outgunned the red by about 100 to 1. This after the great red scarf give away on tuesday night. Why?


probably something to do with the variety of home shirts being blue bar 1 that people will wear. I have loads of Cardiff shirts from over the seasons, I also have this seasons home shirt, I buy the new shirt every year some people dont. Some people will wear shirts to games some wont, some people dont buy shirts every year. What you have to ask is are people wearing blue shirts because its their protest or its just the CLEAN one they put on this morning or the only shirt they own.

Why create barriers when there is no need to create one. Wear red or wear blue everyone is still a Cardiff fan maybe people should remember that.


Them red scarves must of got dirty quick then. The contast between yesterday and tuesday night was there for all to see.

Re: can vt ban our away support?

Mon Feb 25, 2013 3:06 pm

Traditionaly Cardiff have never worn colours away from home, not since the Doc Martins and scarves around the wrist days of the 70,s :ayatollah: :old: :ayatollah:

Re: can vt ban our away support?

Mon Feb 25, 2013 3:11 pm

jama wrote:
JONNY012697 wrote:
jama wrote:
BigGwynram wrote:Why would he want to ban the away support? do you think the away support is anti red, because you couldn't be more mistaken, the vast majority support the club and aren't that bothered about the colour, in all honesty 90% of the mates I travel with have never and don't own scarves or club shirts.

Don't think a lack of red scarves signified anything different to any away game we have had this season, to be honest barring Tuesday's game, any one attending wouldn't really be aware anything was going on, especially to he scale you would imagine from the internet.

In my humble opinion, those against have little platform to express their frustrations other than on a message board, because at games they are anonymous, whereas the huge majority aren't bothered about colour and just get behind the team and go along with what's best for the club rather than what suits them personally. :old:


True in part. Ive never wore club colours home or away, i think most of our away support is the same. Not having a go at those who do, its just personal prefrence.

But you cant deny that of the fans wearing club colours yesterday the blue outgunned the red by about 100 to 1. This after the great red scarf give away on tuesday night. Why?


probably something to do with the variety of home shirts being blue bar 1 that people will wear. I have loads of Cardiff shirts from over the seasons, I also have this seasons home shirt, I buy the new shirt every year some people dont. Some people will wear shirts to games some wont, some people dont buy shirts every year. What you have to ask is are people wearing blue shirts because its their protest or its just the CLEAN one they put on this morning or the only shirt they own.

Why create barriers when there is no need to create one. Wear red or wear blue everyone is still a Cardiff fan maybe people should remember that.


Them red scarves must of got dirty quick then. The contast between yesterday and tuesday night was there for all to see.


ok lets be specific about scarfs then. many reasons you wear a scarf
1 its cold so put something on to keep you warm
2 i always wear my lucky scarf to games because although its stupid superstitious nonsense, i honestly believe if i wear my scarf the team will win (most of these scarfs will be blue)
3 im being a stupid idiot and believe my support is better than any other persons support because of my hatred of the re-brand I need to show everybody around me how much of a real Cardiff fan I am compared to these red wearing wanna-bes.
4 its just the scarf i quickly grabbed on the way out of the door this morning before I ran to get on the bus/car/train to the game.

Re: can vt ban our away support?

Mon Feb 25, 2013 3:25 pm

JONNY012697 wrote:
jama wrote:
JONNY012697 wrote:
jama wrote:
BigGwynram wrote:Why would he want to ban the away support? do you think the away support is anti red, because you couldn't be more mistaken, the vast majority support the club and aren't that bothered about the colour, in all honesty 90% of the mates I travel with have never and don't own scarves or club shirts.

Don't think a lack of red scarves signified anything different to any away game we have had this season, to be honest barring Tuesday's game, any one attending wouldn't really be aware anything was going on, especially to he scale you would imagine from the internet.

In my humble opinion, those against have little platform to express their frustrations other than on a message board, because at games they are anonymous, whereas the huge majority aren't bothered about colour and just get behind the team and go along with what's best for the club rather than what suits them personally. :old:


True in part. Ive never wore club colours home or away, i think most of our away support is the same. Not having a go at those who do, its just personal prefrence.

But you cant deny that of the fans wearing club colours yesterday the blue outgunned the red by about 100 to 1. This after the great red scarf give away on tuesday night. Why?


probably something to do with the variety of home shirts being blue bar 1 that people will wear. I have loads of Cardiff shirts from over the seasons, I also have this seasons home shirt, I buy the new shirt every year some people dont. Some people will wear shirts to games some wont, some people dont buy shirts every year. What you have to ask is are people wearing blue shirts because its their protest or its just the CLEAN one they put on this morning or the only shirt they own.

Why create barriers when there is no need to create one. Wear red or wear blue everyone is still a Cardiff fan maybe people should remember that.


Them red scarves must of got dirty quick then. The contast between yesterday and tuesday night was there for all to see.


ok lets be specific about scarfs then. many reasons you wear a scarf
1 its cold so put something on to keep you warm
2 i always wear my lucky scarf to games because although its stupid superstitious nonsense, i honestly believe if i wear my scarf the team will win (most of these scarfs will be blue)
3 im being a stupid idiot and believe my support is better than any other persons support because of my hatred of the re-brand I need to show everybody around me how much of a real Cardiff fan I am compared to these red wearing wanna-bes.
4 its just the scarf i quickly grabbed on the way out of the door this morning before I ran to get on the bus/car/train to the game.


Oh i see now, the other 2600 must have done the same as you then jonny. That explains the distinct lack of red scarves yesterday.

Thanks for clearing that one up for me, now have a stab at question 3.

Re: can vt ban our away support?

Mon Feb 25, 2013 3:33 pm

Blueboys1927 wrote:Traditionaly Cardiff have never worn colours away from home, not since the Doc Martins and scarves around the wrist days of the 70,s :ayatollah: :old: :ayatollah:


Couldnt agree more, however out of those wearing scarves/colours yesterday blue vastly outnumbered red, no one can deny it, it was there for all to see. This straight after 20000 free red scarves were given out on tuesday night. Why?

Re: can vt ban our away support?

Mon Feb 25, 2013 3:34 pm

jama wrote:
JONNY012697 wrote:
jama wrote:
JONNY012697 wrote:
jama wrote:
BigGwynram wrote:Why would he want to ban the away support? do you think the away support is anti red, because you couldn't be more mistaken, the vast majority support the club and aren't that bothered about the colour, in all honesty 90% of the mates I travel with have never and don't own scarves or club shirts.

Don't think a lack of red scarves signified anything different to any away game we have had this season, to be honest barring Tuesday's game, any one attending wouldn't really be aware anything was going on, especially to he scale you would imagine from the internet.

In my humble opinion, those against have little platform to express their frustrations other than on a message board, because at games they are anonymous, whereas the huge majority aren't bothered about colour and just get behind the team and go along with what's best for the club rather than what suits them personally. :old:


True in part. Ive never wore club colours home or away, i think most of our away support is the same. Not having a go at those who do, its just personal prefrence.

But you cant deny that of the fans wearing club colours yesterday the blue outgunned the red by about 100 to 1. This after the great red scarf give away on tuesday night. Why?


probably something to do with the variety of home shirts being blue bar 1 that people will wear. I have loads of Cardiff shirts from over the seasons, I also have this seasons home shirt, I buy the new shirt every year some people dont. Some people will wear shirts to games some wont, some people dont buy shirts every year. What you have to ask is are people wearing blue shirts because its their protest or its just the CLEAN one they put on this morning or the only shirt they own.

Why create barriers when there is no need to create one. Wear red or wear blue everyone is still a Cardiff fan maybe people should remember that.


Them red scarves must of got dirty quick then. The contast between yesterday and tuesday night was there for all to see.


ok lets be specific about scarfs then. many reasons you wear a scarf
1 its cold so put something on to keep you warm
2 i always wear my lucky scarf to games because although its stupid superstitious nonsense, i honestly believe if i wear my scarf the team will win (most of these scarfs will be blue)
3 im being a stupid idiot and believe my support is better than any other persons support because of my hatred of the re-brand I need to show everybody around me how much of a real Cardiff fan I am compared to these red wearing wanna-bes.
4 its just the scarf i quickly grabbed on the way out of the door this morning before I ran to get on the bus/car/train to the game.


Oh i see now, the other 2600 must have done the same as you then jonny. That explains the distinct lack of red scarves yesterday.

Thanks for clearing that one up for me, now have a stab at question 3.


in answer to question 3, the club will probably play in blue next saturday as middlesborough play in red and though im not an expert on the laws around what kit combinations you can wear it would appear that our blue away kit would be the only kit that we could play in, though it wouldnt concern me if the club found a way around it a support Cardiff City and it isnt dependent on a colour.

Re: can vt ban our away support?

Mon Feb 25, 2013 5:39 pm

jama wrote:Great win, great performance,but the real winner for me yesterday was once again the ccfc away support. After the tuesday night fiasco they were once again superb.

It does though raise a few questions..

1. Is our home and away support the most divided it has ever been?

2. After giving out all them free red scaves tuesday, and only a very small ammount on show at wolves out of a crowd of 2600 yesterday it is becoming obvious that our away support are not buying in to the clubs red visión (we didnt play in our blue away kit again yesterday) though unlike tuesday, blue outnumberd red by about 100 to 1.

Do you think the club and tan will put up with this much longer? Could the club actually ban our away support? Or at the least, start trying to lay down certain bribes or conditions? It may sound far fetched but after tuesday night nothing would suprise me.


Do you really think the players or Vt noticed, however i bet they did Tuesday, chance missed.

3. When is the next time our club will play in blue? After yesterday, and the events of the past week surely it would be a good idea if the club sent out the boys for our next away game against boro (who play in red) dressed in blue?

Re: can vt ban our away support?

Mon Feb 25, 2013 7:20 pm

BigGwynram wrote:Why would he want to ban the away support? do you think the away support is anti red, because you couldn't be more mistaken, the vast majority support the club and aren't that bothered about the colour, in all honesty 90% of the mates I travel with have never and don't own scarves or club shirts.

Don't think a lack of red scarves signified anything different to any away game we have had this season, to be honest barring Tuesday's game, any one attending wouldn't really be aware anything was going on, especially to he scale you would imagine from the internet.

In my humble opinion, those against have little platform to express their frustrations other than on a message board, because at games they are anonymous, whereas the huge majority aren't bothered about colour and just get behind the team and go along with what's best for the club rather than what suits them personally. :old:


:ayatollah: :ayatollah: :ayatollah:
I'm not against Tan's vision i just rather wear my own designer scarf when its cold :lol: