' Protest against Blackburn home '

just seen a group on facebook planning a protest for this game


Cardiff City fans plan protest against colour change
By Brendan Hughes Feb 22nd 2013





Disgruntled Cardiff City fans unhappy with the club’s change of colour are planning to stage a protest ahead of the club’s home game against Blackburn.

Hundreds of fans have accepted a Facebook invite to hold a “Keep Cardiff Blue” demonstration during the Bluebirds’ home game on April 1.

It comes after pictures emerged of red City scarves – which had been given away free to fans at Tuesday’s game against Brighton – were set alight and left in toilet bowls and soiled urinals.

Actor and Bluebirds fan Jonny Owen is among those to accept the Facebook invite to join the demonstration.


He said: “I absolutely think there should be a protest from the fans that want it to stay blue as long as it is peaceful.”

More than 200 supporters have joined the Keep Cardiff Blue [KCB] Facebook event page since it was created on Wednesday.

The event page was created on the day after fans were offered the free red scarves which the club said was a move intended as a gift.

Supporters told the Echo that about seven scarves were thrown onto the pitch by half time, while several fans dumped their free scarves in the toilets and urinals.

But thousands of fans were also pictured happily wearing the free red scarves around their necks during the match, in which Brighton defeated Cardiff City 2-0.

And the controversial colour change from blue to red hasn’t deterred fans from snapping up Cardiff City’s available season tickets, which have sold out for the next season.

Cardiff City Supporters’ Trust yesterday e-mailed a new survey to members asking them a range of questions including their views on the club’s rebrand.

Chairman Tim Hartley, 52, of Llandaff, said: “We are hoping to understand whether or not people have changed their minds or have generally accepted the new crest and the change of colour. When we initially surveyed fans it was split 50-50.”

Bluebirds fan Tony Jefferies, 61, of Llanishen, said Cardiff City’s decision to hand out free red scarves was a “complete own goal trying to ram the colour down people’s throats”.

He said: “I think they have upset more than were upset before. People were coming round because of the position the club in the league.

“The majority of fans had accepted it but now it has kicked it all off seven months into the season. They would have been better off leaving it alone.”

Yet Mike Morris, who runs http://www.ccmb,co.uk, said: “I was surprised at the uptake of the scarves. I thought it was a great marketing ploy for the club from their point of view to give them away for free.

“I thought there would have been a lot more people who would have objected or refused to take them because the general feeling online was that there was opposition. But the majority of the crowd actually took them and wore them.”

Bluebirds fan Jonny Owen, 41, also said he felt the free red scarves had further divided fans of the club.

He said: “They have basically split the fan base and they have entrenched both sides of the argument.”

But he added: “I don’t agree with anybody taking the scarf, but I wouldn’t agree with anyone doing anything to desecrate the scarf like burning it.

“I don’t think it needs to be in any way violent because I think that exacerbates the problem.”



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Care to elaborate

so people want TAN out?

we will be fucked, drop down the leauges, unless these protesters have a few million a month to keep us going

Top of the league too, I dunno

so people want TAN out?

we will be fucked, drop down the leauges, unless these protesters have a few million a month to keep us going

Top of the league too, I dunno

No, nobody wants Tan out of the club. We want a return to blue (or at least a compromise). Dont you?

not the place to do it.

so people want TAN out?

we will be fucked, drop down the leauges, unless these protesters have a few million a month to keep us going

Top of the league too, I dunno

No, nobody wants Tan out of the club. We want a return to blue (or at least a compromise). Dont you?

The compromise is red. The vast majority of fans have embraced it and like red that was proven on Tuesday.

I don't really care if Tan goes to be honest. Big deal. I reckon we'll end up in administration when he ups and leaves anyway because I can see him taking all the profit out of the club for himself and using loans to keep the club going.

so people want TAN out?

we will be fucked, drop down the leauges, unless these protesters have a few million a month to keep us going

Top of the league too, I dunno

No, nobody wants Tan out of the club. We want a return to blue (or at least a compromise). Dont you?

Its not going to happen! he wants his lucky red,

personally i think you either support it and support the club and team, or stay away, protesting and distrupting the club while its at the top of the league and going to the promised land is madness

Unbelievable really,I would have thought that Tuesday night has shown what the vast majority of Cardiff City fans want, and that is, they are more than happy with the way things are going at the moment at the Club.There is no doubt if any fan wants to protest then that is their right,but do not be surprised if any planned protest turns out to be yet another damp squib, as all have been before.There is clearly no appetite for a mass protest by the overwhelming majority of the fanbase.

I don't really care if Tan goes to be honest. Big deal. I reckon we'll end up in administration when he ups and leaves anyway because I can see him taking all the profit out of the club for himself and using loans to keep the club going.

The only profit tan will make is from the repayment of his loans to us as the club runs at a loss. Therefore a cardiff city in administration is worth nothing to him.

I wonder how many of his other companies he sucked of its assets, made a quick profit and left it in administration? None. So Why are we any different.

I don't really care if Tan goes to be honest. Big deal. I reckon we'll end up in administration when he ups and leaves anyway because I can see him taking all the profit out of the club for himself and using loans to keep the club going.

The only profit tan will make is from the repayment of his loans to us as the club runs at a loss. Therefore a cardiff city in administration is worth nothing to him.

I wonder how many of his other companies he sucked of its assets, made a quick profit and left it in administration? None. So Why are we any different.

Wrong tan has a history of taking on company's with debt problems rebranding them , changing there names , sports toto is one prime example , sometimes they work sometimes they dont !
Difference is over there he's got a very good IN , with the Malaysian government and influential people .
Which sometimes will we be ???

Before or after the game, fine.

During the game? No.

Go and do your protests on barry beach or something

I don't really care if Tan goes to be honest. Big deal. I reckon we'll end up in administration when he ups and leaves anyway because I can see him taking all the profit out of the club for himself and using loans to keep the club going.

The only profit tan will make is from the repayment of his loans to us as the club runs at a loss. Therefore a cardiff city in administration is worth nothing to him.

I wonder how many of his other companies he sucked of its assets, made a quick profit and left it in administration? None. So Why are we any different.

Wrong tan has a history of taking on company's with debt problems rebranding them , changing there names , sports toto is one prime example , sometimes they work sometimes they dont !
Difference is over there he's got a very good IN , with the Malaysian government and influential people .
Which sometimes will we be ???

So give me an example of a company where he is or was the largest shareholder that he made a profit out of and left in administration.

Go and do your protests on barry beach or something

That wouldn't be very productive.

Against Blackburn --- The irony - helped them

Although the next game against Derby will be the litmus test of the rebrand in my opinion. It will be interesting to see how many red scarf's are worn next week.

Just wear blue and support the boys.

[quote="bluedragons"]The compromise is red. The vast majority of fans have embraced it and like red that was proven on Tuesday.
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Totally wrong ! How many fans have gone out and bought red? How many have bought a red scarf? The ones on Tuesday were given out FREE to get more fans wearing red inside the stadium because it has not taken off like the club wanted it too. Then to keep fans wearing red every week ONE lucky fan each game will get their ST for free. Is that an incentive or what. How many were wearing a red scarf the game before ?

How many fans would be wearing red if CITY were not top of the division and in with a shout of promotion? Guaranteed that had we been mid or lower table there would be unrest in the camp. There is a nucleus of CITY fans who want to keep 108 years of history, the clubs identity, tradition, colours and 'The Bluebirds". You cannot say that fans have embraced the change purely because they are given a freebie and then offered an incentive to wear the scarf.

Embraced it no.

Are they bothered about the rebrand? No

so people want TAN out?

we will be fucked, drop down the leauges, unless these protesters have a few million a month to keep us going

Top of the league too, I dunno

No, nobody wants Tan out of the club. We want a return to blue (or at least a compromise). Dont you?

Absolutely the wrong approach to take. People on here go on about how we looking in the eyes of other teams fans but how the hell would it look if the fans of a team comfortably top of the league protest at a game? No matter what your intentions are, you could not hold a protest without it affecting the team.

You clearly feel strongly about it but do it constructively. Hopefully the message Carl gave a while back about Tan realising the approach was wrong and that consultation is needed is true. Wait until we are (hopefully) promoted and see what form the consultation takes. Then get engaged with a group that has access to the consultation process.

If you protest at a game and the result goes the wrong way then people will blame you like they are now blaming the red scarf give away for Tuesday's defeat, famine and the ongoing issues in Syria! Remember, there are people who feel as strongly as you the other way because they see the red as being a part of the clubs ongoing survival because it is what Tan wants. If it wasnlt for him we would now be in administration so surely you can see that viewpoint.

so you know where I am coming from, I am in 2 minds. I can accept the red as without it I believe we would be right up sh1t creek but I would rather we had remained blue.

UP THE CITY!

The only reason the vast majority took a scarf was to try and win a season ticket for next year. Very few will be on show after tuesday night imo

so people want TAN out?

we will be fucked, drop down the leauges, unless these protesters have a few million a month to keep us going

Top of the league too, I dunno

No, nobody wants Tan out of the club. We want a return to blue (or at least a compromise). Dont you?

Absolutely the wrong approach to take. People on here go on about how we looking in the eyes of other teams fans but how the hell would it look if the fans of a team comfortably top of the league protest at a game? No matter what your intentions are, you could not hold a protest without it affecting the team.

You clearly feel strongly about it but do it constructively. Hopefully the message Carl gave a while back about Tan realising the approach was wrong and that consultation is needed is true. Wait until we are (hopefully) promoted and see what form the consultation takes. Then get engaged with a group that has access to the consultation process.

If you protest at a game and the result goes the wrong way then people will blame you like they are now blaming the red scarf give away for Tuesday's defeat, famine and the ongoing issues in Syria! Remember, there are people who feel as strongly as you the other way because they see the red as being a part of the clubs ongoing survival because it is what Tan wants. If it wasnlt for him we would now be in administration so surely you can see that viewpoint.

so you know where I am coming from, I am in 2 minds. I can accept the red as without it I believe we would be right up sh1t creek but I would rather we had remained blue.

UP THE CITY!

Sorry, I wasn't speaking as someone who is going to protest but as someone who is very much pro-blue. I also think that a demo at a home game is not the way to go about things at this stage.

I would say the best way to go about showing your displeasure of the red would be to wear blue at all home games, there was talk of getting together and buying a load of blue flags on here yesterday (what happened to that?) and giving them away to people in the ground which i think would be a good idea. They wouldn't be against the team or the management or even our owner but just showing that they want a return to blue.

right now VT probably doesn't think there is any opposition to the re-brand its time to show him that there is, in a civil manor of course.

The compromise is red. The vast majority of fans have embraced it and like red that was proven on Tuesday.

Totally wrong ! How many fans have gone out and bought red? How many have bought a red scarf? The ones on Tuesday were given out FREE to get more fans wearing red inside the stadium because it has not taken off like the club wanted it too. Then to keep fans wearing red every week ONE lucky fan each game will get their ST for free. Is that an incentive or what. How many were wearing a red scarf the game before ?

How many fans would be wearing red if CITY were not top of the division and in with a shout of promotion? Guaranteed that had we been mid or lower table there would be unrest in the camp. There is a nucleus of CITY fans who want to keep 108 years of history, the clubs identity, tradition, colours and 'The Bluebirds". You cannot say that fans have embraced the change purely because they are given a freebie and then offered an incentive to wear the scarf.

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I'm totally wrong?

So what about the record amount of home kits that have been sold this season. The fans could have opted to buy the away blue kit instead but didn't. These figures suggest fans are happy with red and Tuesday night proved that by the amount that wore the scarfs. They weren't forced too, they were optional and people chose to.

Can you also explain Why there has been no or little protest since the changes have been implemented? That also suggests the vast majority are not upset by the colour change also.

http://www.walesonline.co.uk/cardiffonl ... -32856516/

That will help confidence on the pitch wont it FFS

http://www.walesonline.co.uk/cardiffonline/cardiff-news/2013/02/22/cardiff-city-fans-plan-protest-against-colour-change-91466-32856516/

What stands out here for me is that it says "hundreds of fans". Hundreds of fans out of an average of around 25k is a massive minority works out less than 5%.

http://www.walesonline.co.uk/cardiffonline/cardiff-news/2013/02/22/cardiff-city-fans-plan-protest-against-colour-change-91466-32856516/

Our fans never do anything amicably its always ok or extremely bad!!

If this goes ahead the people instigating this should be ashamed, why don't they approach the club and go through the right channels.

Its a joke.

http://www.walesonline.co.uk/cardiffonline/cardiff-news/2013/02/22/cardiff-city-fans-plan-protest-against-colour-change-91466-32856516/

Our fans never do anything amicably its always ok or extremely bad!!

If this goes ahead the people instigating this should be ashamed, why don't they approach the club and go through the right channels.

Its a joke.

Why didnt the club go through the right channels and ask the fans who have kept this club going for a hundred years views on a rebrand and not ram it down our throats !
The fans who have been willing to throw cardiff city's history and heritage , a club that many of our fathers and grandfathers spent years supporting and building , away for a easy shot at premier league football are the ones who should be ashamed
They are the real joke !
Good luck to those running the protest I will be at the front

just seen a group on facebook planning a protest for this game


Cardiff City fans plan protest against colour change
By Brendan Hughes Feb 22nd 2013





Disgruntled Cardiff City fans unhappy with the club’s change of colour are planning to stage a protest ahead of the club’s home game against Blackburn.

Hundreds of fans have accepted a Facebook invite to hold a “Keep Cardiff Blue” demonstration during the Bluebirds’ home game on April 1.

It comes after pictures emerged of red City scarves – which had been given away free to fans at Tuesday’s game against Brighton – were set alight and left in toilet bowls and soiled urinals.

Actor and Bluebirds fan Jonny Owen is among those to accept the Facebook invite to join the demonstration.


He said: “I absolutely think there should be a protest from the fans that want it to stay blue as long as it is peaceful.”

More than 200 supporters have joined the Keep Cardiff Blue [KCB] Facebook event page since it was created on Wednesday.

The event page was created on the day after fans were offered the free red scarves which the club said was a move intended as a gift.

Supporters told the Echo that about seven scarves were thrown onto the pitch by half time, while several fans dumped their free scarves in the toilets and urinals.

But thousands of fans were also pictured happily wearing the free red scarves around their necks during the match, in which Brighton defeated Cardiff City 2-0.

And the controversial colour change from blue to red hasn’t deterred fans from snapping up Cardiff City’s available season tickets, which have sold out for the next season.

Cardiff City Supporters’ Trust yesterday e-mailed a new survey to members asking them a range of questions including their views on the club’s rebrand.

Chairman Tim Hartley, 52, of Llandaff, said: “We are hoping to understand whether or not people have changed their minds or have generally accepted the new crest and the change of colour. When we initially surveyed fans it was split 50-50.”

Bluebirds fan Tony Jefferies, 61, of Llanishen, said Cardiff City’s decision to hand out free red scarves was a “complete own goal trying to ram the colour down people’s throats”.

He said: “I think they have upset more than were upset before. People were coming round because of the position the club in the league.

“The majority of fans had accepted it but now it has kicked it all off seven months into the season. They would have been better off leaving it alone.”

Yet Mike Morris, who runs http://www.ccmb.co.uk, said: “I was surprised at the uptake of the scarves. I thought it was a great marketing ploy for the club from their point of view to give them away for free.

“I thought there would have been a lot more people who would have objected or refused to take them because the general feeling online was that there was opposition. But the majority of the crowd actually took them and wore them.”

Bluebirds fan Jonny Owen, 41, also said he felt the free red scarves had further divided fans of the club.

He said: “They have basically split the fan base and they have entrenched both sides of the argument.”

But he added: “I don’t agree with anybody taking the scarf, but I wouldn’t agree with anyone doing anything to desecrate the scarf like burning it.

“I don’t think it needs to be in any way violent because I think that exacerbates the problem.”



Read more: Wales Online http://www.walesonline.co.uk/cardiffonl ... z2LdiGPsFy

Jonny Owen is a complete clown, who cares if he has joined a facebook group. Waste of a human

1:45 in central train station apparentley

I won't take any part in this as I feel the timing is shocking!!!

Lets wait until its mathematically done and then protest like hell!!! Stay behind after games ect ect

Not now!!!

I tell you one thing. If you think we're laughing stocks now just wait until we f**k up promotion, then we have the world laughing at us