This has to be said..

I have seen posts on here about how disgusted people are with our fan base, the red, the Malaysians and the atmosphere including from myself but these words mean f**k all if you renew your season ticket next season. You have to realise that a renewal in Tans eyes is supporting him and his plans whether you like it or not. You are nothing short of hypocrites if you complain and renew.

So Annis, Nukes and the rest of the staunch hardcore bluebirds, it's crunch time lads. Are you going to stick by your guns or give a resounding thumbs up to Tan and the red? Over to you.

I do see where you're coming from, but it's just not as simple as that for some people.

It kills some people to see Cardiff in red, but then it would also kill them to give up watching the club they love.

It's a no-win situation.

It's a tough one, and i myself really don't know what to do.

One day i'm adamant i will give it up (on days like today) then others i feel like i should stick with the club.

I have seen posts on here about how disgusted people are with our fan base, the red, the Malaysians and the atmosphere including from myself but these words mean f**k all if you renew your season ticket next season. You have to realise that a renewal in Tans eyes is supporting him and his plans whether you like it or not. You are nothing short of hypocrites if you complain and renew.

So Annis, Nukes and the rest of the staunch hardcore bluebirds, it's crunch time lads. Are you going to stick by your guns or give a resounding thumbs up to Tan and the red? Over to you.

I was willing to see how things progress with debts and promises etc but I'm done now won't be renewing unless a compromise is reached but to be fair I will never see 90% of our fans the same way again , I love city though so might just be an way fan from now on !

I do see where you're coming from, but it's just not as simple as that for some people.

It kills some people to see Cardiff in red, but then it would also kill them to give up watching the club they love.

It's a no-win situation.

It's a tough one, and i myself really don't know what to do.

One day i'm adamant i will give it up (on days like today) then others i feel like i should stick with the club.

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I disagree.

But I must admit I'm very close to giving up.

It is simple you've either got principles or you haven't if you continue to go to games stop moaning

This isn't a black-and-white situation, it's not fair to say "if you go you're agreeing with Tan", because that isn't the case at all. Tan doesn't care whether you support him or not, he just wants your money. And if he doesn't have your money, there'll be someone else willing to take your place. So why should people stop going, went it will affect absolutely nothing?

How is renewing your season ticket next season in any way shape or form nothing other than a thumbs up to Tan and his red? These Anti reds on here who are disgusted will no doubt in my mind give Tan their money.

I have a lot of thinking to do other the next few months but there many that hate it more than me and these people should stick to their guns and tell him to f**k off.

You not renewing either then 1948?

You not renewing either then 1948?

I need to weigh it up in my mind Chuckles, do I hate the re brand as much as I think I do? I do hate our new breed fans. I am quite moderate on my views on the re brand compared to people like you who are disgusted with it. As a fan base we have a lot of thinking to do but if I do renew my Season ticket it will be because I am supporting the red and anyone who renews next season who claims to be against the rebrand is f*cking lying.

Admit it Chuckles, thousands of bluebirds renewing season tickets for next season in Tans eyes will be a huge thumbs up to him and the red, you can't dress it up as anything other than that.

You not renewing either then 1948?

I need to weigh it up in my mind Chuckles, do I hate the re brand as much as I think I do? I do hate our new breed fans. I am quite moderate on my views on the re brand compared to people like you who are disgusted with it. As a fan base we have a lot of thinking to do but if I do renew my Season ticket it will be because I am supporting the red and anyone who renews next season who claims to be against the rebrand is f*cking lying.

Admit it Chuckles, thousands of bluebirds renewing season tickets for next season in Tans eyes will be a huge thumbs up to him and the red, you can't dress it up as anything other than that.

You're totally right. It will just confirm his thoughts after last night's shambles.

You not renewing either then 1948?

I need to weigh it up in my mind Chuckles, do I hate the re brand as much as I think I do? I do hate our new breed fans. I am quite moderate on my views on the re brand compared to people like you who are disgusted with it. As a fan base we have a lot of thinking to do but if I do renew my Season ticket it will be because I am supporting the red and anyone who renews next season who claims to be against the rebrand is f*cking lying.

Admit it Chuckles, thousands of bluebirds renewing season tickets for next season in Tans eyes will be a huge thumbs up to him and the red, you can't dress it up as anything other than that.

You're totally right. It will just confirm his thoughts after last night's shambles.

So will you renew Chuckles? Decision time. People cannot complain about the rebrand once they have voluntarily paid money into Tans pocket. It is not like last season when most of us had already renewed, we know what we are signing up for this time.

Tick tock.

Just like the Kid next to me yesterday. He was staunch anti-red, shouting and waving his blue scarf around and making his disgust known about the red scarf yet I noticed he had a nice red scarf in his pocket!!

That for me summed this hole situation up. Hates the rebrand but happy to accept his free red scarf.

I did accept my free scarf but felt uncomfortable when I went to put it round me so I didnt and put it in my pocket. But when it comes to the rebrand I have only accepted it for the hope of a debt free club. Nothing to do with PL, all I want is a Cardiff City FC with no debt

Just like the Kid next to me yesterday. He was staunch anti-red, shouting and waving his blue scarf around and making his disgust known about the red scarf yet I noticed he had a nice red scarf in his pocket!!

That for me summed this hole situation up. Hates the rebrand but happy to accept his free red scarf.

I did accept my free scarf but felt uncomfortable when I went to put it round me so I didnt and put it in my pocket. But when it comes to the rebrand I have only accepted it for the hope of a debt free club. Nothing to do with PL, all I want is a Cardiff City FC with no debt

We all want but you have to ask yourself if red is to clear debts or is it another power boost for an arrogant man.

Couldn't agree more with this.

Aslong as you keep renewing your ST, in Tans eyes you're support him and his vision.

You not renewing either then 1948?

I need to weigh it up in my mind Chuckles, do I hate the re brand as much as I think I do? I do hate our new breed fans. I am quite moderate on my views on the re brand compared to people like you who are disgusted with it. As a fan base we have a lot of thinking to do but if I do renew my Season ticket it will be because I am supporting the red and anyone who renews next season who claims to be against the rebrand is f*cking lying.

Admit it Chuckles, thousands of bluebirds renewing season tickets for next season in Tans eyes will be a huge thumbs up to him and the red, you can't dress it up as anything other than that.

You're totally right. It will just confirm his thoughts after last night's shambles.

So will you renew Chuckles? Decision time. People cannot complain about the rebrand once they have voluntarily paid money into Tans pocket. It is not like last season when most of us had already renewed, we know what we are signing up for this time.

Tick tock.

I've already renewed. Last night hurt a lot though.

I do feel that people can be against the running of the club and still follow. Just like when people were against Ridsdale and still followed.

Last edited by Barry Chuckle on Wed Feb 20, 2013 5:47 pm, edited 1 time in total.

To me, by renewing my season ticket I'm supporting Cardiff City FC.

I don't care about Tan, it makes no difference to him as we're going to sell out every game next season anyway.

You not renewing either then 1948?

I need to weigh it up in my mind Chuckles, do I hate the re brand as much as I think I do? I do hate our new breed fans. I am quite moderate on my views on the re brand compared to people like you who are disgusted with it. As a fan base we have a lot of thinking to do but if I do renew my Season ticket it will be because I am supporting the red and anyone who renews next season who claims to be against the rebrand is f*cking lying.

Admit it Chuckles, thousands of bluebirds renewing season tickets for next season in Tans eyes will be a huge thumbs up to him and the red, you can't dress it up as anything other than that.

You're totally right. It will just confirm his thoughts after last night's shambles.

So will you renew Chuckles? Decision time. People cannot complain about the rebrand once they have voluntarily paid money into Tans pocket. It is not like last season when most of us had already renewed, we know what we are signing up for this time.

Tick tock.

I've already renewed. Last night hurt a lot though.

I do feel that people can be against the running of the club and still follow. Just like when people were against Ridsdale and still followed.

Don't complain, you have no right to complain now Chuckles. Listen mate, I see where your coming from but you can complain all you like, your protests won't even get to Tan. All he will look at is all the season ticket renewals and he will think he has 20k adoring fans.

You know what you have signed up to Chuckles and honestly didn't have you down as a hypoctite, don't complain because it will hold no water while your money has gone into Tans pocket.