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A QUESTION FOR THE TRUST

Wed Feb 13, 2013 9:04 am

If let's say there was a trust member on the board last year, what would they have done when the rebrand issue was imposed, even if they were told it was to be kept quiet and the news broken in a controlled managed manner rather than leaked out prior to the set time?

Also many topics discussed are confidential and not for general discusion by fans, after all it is a business, how would they deal with that?

Re: A QUESTION FOR THE TRUST

Wed Feb 13, 2013 9:08 am

BigGwynram wrote:If let's say there was a trust member on the board last year, what would they have done when the rebrand issue was imposed, even if they were told it was to be kept quiet and the news broken in a controlled managed manner rather than leaked out prior to the set time?

Also many topics discussed are confidential and not for general discusion by fans, after all it is a business, how would they deal with that?


Easy Gwyn they wouldn't deal with it as it would put them in a 'difficult position' i.e. they have no backbone

Re: A QUESTION FOR THE TRUST

Wed Feb 13, 2013 9:11 am

Exactly Tony, any 'fans rep' would simply become part of the inner circle

Re: A QUESTION FOR THE TRUST

Wed Feb 13, 2013 9:39 am

BigGwynram wrote:If let's say there was a trust member on the board last year, what would they have done when the rebrand issue was imposed, even if they were told it was to be kept quiet and the news broken in a controlled managed manner rather than leaked out prior to the set time?

Also many topics discussed are confidential and not for general discusion by fans, after all it is a business, how would they deal with that?

Thats why it wouldnt work as much as we would like somebody putting points across gywn they would never come to light if the money men dont agree, then theres the keep it quiet for now subjects which kind of defeats the point in a FANS rep being on the board to start with so as gav said the inner circle, after all this rebrand thing come about with a leak from the so called inner circle which im sure more knew about but never spoke of it untill it become public on here and other forums. To be honest gwyn i have no idea what the trust even do for its memebers let alone want a position on the board :malky:

Re: A QUESTION FOR THE TRUST

Wed Feb 13, 2013 10:32 am

It would be just like workplace Unions, they keep the same secrets from you the bosses do, all for their all expenses paid jollies to here there and everywhere!

Re: A QUESTION FOR THE TRUST

Wed Feb 13, 2013 3:15 pm

BigGwynram wrote:If let's say there was a trust member on the board last year, what would they have done when the rebrand issue was imposed, even if they were told it was to be kept quiet and the news broken in a controlled managed manner rather than leaked out prior to the set time?

Also many topics discussed are confidential and not for general discusion by fans, after all it is a business, how would they deal with that?



I think you might have missed my post on this in another thread Gwyn.

My suggestion was that a properly elected fans` representatative would sit in on board meetings for part of the agenda - that part relating to fan issues such as safe standing , rebranding , bubble trips , issues with incidents at the ground etc. rather than commercially sensitive bits such as the day to day financial or running the business issues. This happens often in other businesses where people join in and contribute for a fixed part of board meetings.

Relevant questions raised and answers given would then be reported back to fans and there would be no question of being asked to keep it quiet as was tried (and failed) in the past re the rebranding for instance.

Keith

Re: A QUESTION FOR THE TRUST

Wed Feb 13, 2013 3:59 pm

since62 wrote:
BigGwynram wrote:If let's say there was a trust member on the board last year, what would they have done when the rebrand issue was imposed, even if they were told it was to be kept quiet and the news broken in a controlled managed manner rather than leaked out prior to the set time?

Also many topics discussed are confidential and not for general discusion by fans, after all it is a business, how would they deal with that?



I think you might have missed my post on this in another thread Gwyn.

My suggestion was that a properly elected fans` representatative would sit in on board meetings for part of the agenda - that part relating to fan issues such as safe standing , rebranding , bubble trips , issues with incidents at the ground etc. rather than commercially sensitive bits such as the day to day financial or running the business issues. This happens often in other businesses where people join in and contribute for a fixed part of board meetings.

Relevant questions raised and answers given would then be reported back to fans and there would be no question of being asked to keep it quiet as was tried (and failed) in the past re the rebranding for instance.

Keith


But what if something was a bit delicate, even if a Trust member had asked for an answer, and the board gave the answer but asked for privacy until a certain time/
I can just see a lot of conflict and no benefit from the regular meetings you get with the club, surely those are the times to ask those questions.

Re: A QUESTION FOR THE TRUST

Wed Feb 13, 2013 4:14 pm

BigGwynram wrote:
since62 wrote:
BigGwynram wrote:If let's say there was a trust member on the board last year, what would they have done when the rebrand issue was imposed, even if they were told it was to be kept quiet and the news broken in a controlled managed manner rather than leaked out prior to the set time?

Also many topics discussed are confidential and not for general discusion by fans, after all it is a business, how would they deal with that?



I think you might have missed my post on this in another thread Gwyn.

My suggestion was that a properly elected fans` representatative would sit in on board meetings for part of the agenda - that part relating to fan issues such as safe standing , rebranding , bubble trips , issues with incidents at the ground etc. rather than commercially sensitive bits such as the day to day financial or running the business issues. This happens often in other businesses where people join in and contribute for a fixed part of board meetings.

Relevant questions raised and answers given would then be reported back to fans and there would be no question of being asked to keep it quiet as was tried (and failed) in the past re the rebranding for instance.

Keith


But what if something was a bit delicate, even if a Trust member had asked for an answer, and the board gave the answer but asked for privacy until a certain time/
I can just see a lot of conflict and no benefit from the regular meetings you get with the club, surely those are the times to ask those questions.


In those situation Gwyn the "owner" would answer " I'm not willing to discuss at this moment in time".

The owner would expect the management to keep things confidential. The Trust representative is not management.

Basically outside management we would all be left in wonderland, such is life.

Re: A QUESTION FOR THE TRUST

Wed Feb 13, 2013 5:11 pm

Bakedalasker wrote:
BigGwynram wrote:
since62 wrote:
BigGwynram wrote:If let's say there was a trust member on the board last year, what would they have done when the rebrand issue was imposed, even if they were told it was to be kept quiet and the news broken in a controlled managed manner rather than leaked out prior to the set time?

Also many topics discussed are confidential and not for general discusion by fans, after all it is a business, how would they deal with that?



I think you might have missed my post on this in another thread Gwyn.

My suggestion was that a properly elected fans` representatative would sit in on board meetings for part of the agenda - that part relating to fan issues such as safe standing , rebranding , bubble trips , issues with incidents at the ground etc. rather than commercially sensitive bits such as the day to day financial or running the business issues. This happens often in other businesses where people join in and contribute for a fixed part of board meetings.

Relevant questions raised and answers given would then be reported back to fans and there would be no question of being asked to keep it quiet as was tried (and failed) in the past re the rebranding for instance.

Keith


But what if something was a bit delicate, even if a Trust member had asked for an answer, and the board gave the answer but asked for privacy until a certain time/
I can just see a lot of conflict and no benefit from the regular meetings you get with the club, surely those are the times to ask those questions.


In those situation Gwyn the "owner" would answer " I'm not willing to discuss at this moment in time".

The owner would expect the management to keep things confidential. The Trust representative is not management.

Basically outside management we would all be left in wonderland, such is life.



Exactly, but being on the board would make them management and seen as part of the establishment, I think it would cause bigger divides than at present to be honest

Re: A QUESTION FOR THE TRUST

Wed Feb 13, 2013 8:08 pm

BigGwynram wrote:
Bakedalasker wrote:
BigGwynram wrote:
since62 wrote:
BigGwynram wrote:If let's say there was a trust member on the board last year, what would they have done when the rebrand issue was imposed, even if they were told it was to be kept quiet and the news broken in a controlled managed manner rather than leaked out prior to the set time?

Also many topics discussed are confidential and not for general discusion by fans, after all it is a business, how would they deal with that?



I think you might have missed my post on this in another thread Gwyn.

My suggestion was that a properly elected fans` representatative would sit in on board meetings for part of the agenda - that part relating to fan issues such as safe standing , rebranding , bubble trips , issues with incidents at the ground etc. rather than commercially sensitive bits such as the day to day financial or running the business issues. This happens often in other businesses where people join in and contribute for a fixed part of board meetings.

Relevant questions raised and answers given would then be reported back to fans and there would be no question of being asked to keep it quiet as was tried (and failed) in the past re the rebranding for instance.

Keith


But what if something was a bit delicate, even if a Trust member had asked for an answer, and the board gave the answer but asked for privacy until a certain time/
I can just see a lot of conflict and no benefit from the regular meetings you get with the club, surely those are the times to ask those questions.


In those situation Gwyn the "owner" would answer " I'm not willing to discuss at this moment in time".

The owner would expect the management to keep things confidential. The Trust representative is not management.

Basically outside management we would all be left in wonderland, such is life.



Exactly, but being on the board would make them management and seen as part of the establishment, I think it would cause bigger divides than at present to be honest


Personally I feel they would be used. You know leek a bit of this out to keep the peones at bay........they would only get away with it for a time before it explodes.