racism in football

Did anyone else see the documentry on sky sports news today about Abuse at Millwall after Bolton's player sordell complained after being called a slave. They went undercover in block 28 in Millwall v Birmingham and it looked pretty mental in there lots of abuse. Old bill involved now footage handed over and charges look to follow !!!! Reminded me a bit of panorama or someone going in lower Block a v Bristol city at Ninian Park showing all the coins going in etc. !!! undercover old bill still around it looks like !!!!! The footage showed Diouf being abused non stop !! Things are no where as bad as the 80's but lets not kid ourselves long way to go.

Its societys problem not football

Got a link?

Just shown it on SSN now. The police allow Millwall fans to do what they want, probably either because they are intimidated by them or they are animals theirselves. Millwall is a different world, their fans are the lowest of the low and I will always have them number 1 on my list of most dispicable fans, especially after their "where's your Speed gone?" chant towards us.

Its societys problem not football

This. It's just easy for others in society to cast it off as a football problem.

Its societys problem not football

Most definitely!!

London is an absolute melting pot of nationalities/religions/colour and it
is not working. People stick with their own kind, whether that be
African/Asian/Polish/Turkish/White British. Birds of a feather flock together!
Is it racist to do that? Of course not! But those are the conditions that breed
racism, always have always will!.... Well done Blair and the Blairites!!!

Its societys problem not football

Most definitely!!

London is an absolute melting pot of nationalities/religions/colour and it
is not working. People stick with their own kind, whether that be
African/Asian/Polish/Turkish/White British. Birds of a feather flock together!
Is it racist to do that? Of course not! But those are the conditions that breed
racism, always have always will!.... Well done Blair and the Blairites!!!

The thing is taffy....the youth are becoming colour blind it don't even cross their minds
London is the envy of the world when it comes to races mixing, it does work and it works well you just need to see the kids walking home together after school, and Cardiff has been a multi-cultural city for hundreds of years.

Its societys problem not football

Most definitely!!

London is an absolute melting pot of nationalities/religions/colour and it
is not working. People stick with their own kind, whether that be
African/Asian/Polish/Turkish/White British. Birds of a feather flock together!
Is it racist to do that? Of course not! But those are the conditions that breed
racism, always have always will!.... Well done Blair and the Blairites!!!

The thing is taffy....the youth are becoming colour blind it don't even cross their minds
London is the envy of the world when it comes to races mixing, it does work and it works well you just need to see the kids walking home together after school, and Cardiff has been a multi-cultural city for hundreds of years.

Cardiff is. The integration in Cardiff started with seamen visiting etc, then staying, then
marrying. Generations of kids are spread across the City with mixed blood and I've
rarely come across anyone who gives a f**k, and why should they? Who cares? The City
and the people are awesome! My mate is Somali hoping to get a British passport and
soon, I hope to God he does he's a cracking lad. But he despises many of the 'new crop'
that are arriving because they are here for one thing and one thing only... to milk the
system and take the piss.

Times that by a thousand and you have 'Modern London' half a million people from all
over the World have exploded on the City in the past 20 years. That is not integration,
it is a flood, and we are seeing the results in that City day in day out. Anyone who says
London is not awash with 'ghetto's (white/black/Asian) is burying their head in the sand.
Integration of different races/colours/religions/country's can only work if its a gradual
thing. But successive governments wanted a quick fix of cheap labour, hang the consequences.

You reap what you sow.

Millwall is an example of the white hatred, but that hatred crosses the racial divide and is
festering like an open sore.

But Thatcher and Tony are ok, thank you

Its societys problem not football

Most definitely!!

London is an absolute melting pot of nationalities/religions/colour and it
is not working. People stick with their own kind, whether that be
African/Asian/Polish/Turkish/White British. Birds of a feather flock together!
Is it racist to do that? Of course not! But those are the conditions that breed
racism, always have always will!.... Well done Blair and the Blairites!!!

The thing is taffy....the youth are becoming colour blind it don't even cross their minds
London is the envy of the world when it comes to races mixing, it does work and it works well you just need to see the kids walking home together after school, and Cardiff has been a multi-cultural city for hundreds of years.

Cardiff is. The integration in Cardiff started with seamen visiting etc, then staying, then
marrying. Generations of kids are spread across the City with mixed blood and I've
rarely come across anyone who gives a f**k, and why should they? Who cares? The City
and the people are awesome! My mate is Somali hoping to get a British passport and
soon, I hope to God he does he's a cracking lad. But he despises many of the 'new crop'
that are arriving because they are here for one thing and one thing only... to milk the
system and take the piss.

Times that by a thousand and you have 'Modern London' half a million people from all
over the World have exploded on the City in the past 20 years. That is not integration,
it is a flood, and we are seeing the results in that City day in day out. Anyone who says
London is not awash with 'ghetto's (white/black/Asian) is burying their head in the sand.
Integration of different races/colours/religions/country's can only work if its a gradual
thing. But successive governments wanted a quick fix of cheap labour, hang the consequences.

You reap what you sow.

Millwall is an example of the white hatred, but that hatred crosses the racial divide and is
festering like an open sore.



But Thatcher and Tony are ok, thank you

I think we have to be careful with sweeping generalisations, theres a million cracking lads like your mate taffy if we take the time to get to know them. (although he do sound a cheeky fucker) wanting a passport but despises anyone else getting one.

i agree that a lot of immigrants flooded in, but we've seen that before, just look at the history of the East End.
but i do think it enriches us as a society....the thought of London with just white racist Millwall types is the stuff of nightmares.

Its societys problem not football

Most definitely!!

London is an absolute melting pot of nationalities/religions/colour and it
is not working. People stick with their own kind, whether that be
African/Asian/Polish/Turkish/White British. Birds of a feather flock together!
Is it racist to do that? Of course not! But those are the conditions that breed
racism, always have always will!.... Well done Blair and the Blairites!!!

The thing is taffy....the youth are becoming colour blind it don't even cross their minds
London is the envy of the world when it comes to races mixing, it does work and it works well you just need to see the kids walking home together after school, and Cardiff has been a multi-cultural city for hundreds of years.

Cardiff is. The integration in Cardiff started with seamen visiting etc, then staying, then
marrying. Generations of kids are spread across the City with mixed blood and I've
rarely come across anyone who gives a f**k, and why should they? Who cares? The City
and the people are awesome! My mate is Somali hoping to get a British passport and
soon, I hope to God he does he's a cracking lad. But he despises many of the 'new crop'
that are arriving because they are here for one thing and one thing only... to milk the
system and take the piss.

Times that by a thousand and you have 'Modern London' half a million people from all
over the World have exploded on the City in the past 20 years. That is not integration,
it is a flood, and we are seeing the results in that City day in day out. Anyone who says
London is not awash with 'ghetto's (white/black/Asian) is burying their head in the sand.
Integration of different races/colours/religions/country's can only work if its a gradual
thing. But successive governments wanted a quick fix of cheap labour, hang the consequences.

You reap what you sow.

Millwall is an example of the white hatred, but that hatred crosses the racial divide and is
festering like an open sore.



But Thatcher and Tony are ok, thank you

I think we have to be careful with sweeping generalisations, theres a million cracking lads like your mate taffy if we take the time to get to know them. (although he do sound a cheeky fucker) wanting a passport but despises anyone else getting one.

i agree that a lot of immigrants flooded in, but we've seen that before, just look at the history of the East End.
but i do think it enriches us as a society....the thought of London with just white racist Millwall types is the stuff of nightmares.

DISAGREE!! He works, he contributes, he loves the City, loves Wales and loves his mates. Because
he is honest enough to say that some of his 'countrymen' sneaking into Britain are scum it does not
make him a cheeky fucker. He's spot on!! If there are lying cheating scumbags trying to trick
their way into Britain, they should be exposed as such, irrespective of colour/religion. Scum are
scum the World over

The mass immigration of the last twenty years has NOT enriched us as a society, it has damaged
society. How can Asian/white/black enclaves be good for Britain? Too much, too quick.. thats
what we are getting all over Britain. If you were a Pakistani moving to a foreign County you
would do your best to integrate? Yes?... No need if there are tens of thousands of your Countrymen
all living in a 'little Pakistan'... Same goes for any other foreign national/religion or colour.

I notice you said "white racist Millwall types" there are black and asian 'Types" every bit
as bad if not worse. Worse because THEIR racism is largely ignored for fear of upsetting the very
'image' of enrichment you wish to portray.

Its societys problem not football

Most definitely!!

London is an absolute melting pot of nationalities/religions/colour and it
is not working. People stick with their own kind, whether that be
African/Asian/Polish/Turkish/White British. Birds of a feather flock together!
Is it racist to do that? Of course not! But those are the conditions that breed
racism, always have always will!.... Well done Blair and the Blairites!!!

The thing is taffy....the youth are becoming colour blind it don't even cross their minds
London is the envy of the world when it comes to races mixing, it does work and it works well you just need to see the kids walking home together after school, and Cardiff has been a multi-cultural city for hundreds of years.

Cardiff is. The integration in Cardiff started with seamen visiting etc, then staying, then
marrying. Generations of kids are spread across the City with mixed blood and I've
rarely come across anyone who gives a f**k, and why should they? Who cares? The City
and the people are awesome! My mate is Somali hoping to get a British passport and
soon, I hope to God he does he's a cracking lad. But he despises many of the 'new crop'
that are arriving because they are here for one thing and one thing only... to milk the
system and take the piss.

Times that by a thousand and you have 'Modern London' half a million people from all
over the World have exploded on the City in the past 20 years. That is not integration,
it is a flood, and we are seeing the results in that City day in day out. Anyone who says
London is not awash with 'ghetto's (white/black/Asian) is burying their head in the sand.
Integration of different races/colours/religions/country's can only work if its a gradual
thing. But successive governments wanted a quick fix of cheap labour, hang the consequences.

You reap what you sow.

Millwall is an example of the white hatred, but that hatred crosses the racial divide and is
festering like an open sore.



But Thatcher and Tony are ok, thank you

I think we have to be careful with sweeping generalisations, theres a million cracking lads like your mate taffy if we take the time to get to know them. (although he do sound a cheeky fucker) wanting a passport but despises anyone else getting one.

i agree that a lot of immigrants flooded in, but we've seen that before, just look at the history of the East End.
but i do think it enriches us as a society....the thought of London with just white racist Millwall types is the stuff of nightmares.

DISAGREE!! He works, he contributes, he loves the City, loves Wales and loves his mates. Because
he is honest enough to say that some of his 'countrymen' sneaking into Britain are scum it does not
make him a cheeky fucker. He's spot on!! If there are lying cheating scumbags trying to trick
their way into Britain, they should be exposed as such, irrespective of colour/religion. Scum are
scum the World over

The mass immigration of the last twenty years has NOT enriched us as a society, it has damaged
society. How can Asian/white/black enclaves be good for Britain? Too much, too quick.. thats
what we are getting all over Britain. If you were a Pakistani moving to a foreign County you
would do your best to integrate? Yes?... No need if there are tens of thousands of your Countrymen
all living in a 'little Pakistan'... Same goes for any other foreign national/religion or colour.

I notice you said "white racist Millwall types" there are black and asian 'Types" every bit
as bad if not worse. Worse because THEIR racism is largely ignored for fear of upsetting the very
'image' of enrichment you wish to portray.

When i said enriched i was talking long term taffy, i mentioned Millwall types because that's what i believe sparked this thread off......and as far as contributing is concerned there are many British folk that contribute f**k all, shall we move em out and replace them as well while we're at it.....like i said genralising equals prejudice.

DISAGREE!! He works, he contributes, he loves the City, loves Wales and loves his mates. Because
he is honest enough to say that some of his 'countrymen' sneaking into Britain are scum it does not
make him a cheeky fucker. He's spot on!! If there are lying cheating scumbags trying to trick
their way into Britain, they should be exposed as such, irrespective of colour/religion. Scum are
scum the World over

The mass immigration of the last twenty years has NOT enriched us as a society, it has damaged
society. How can Asian/white/black enclaves be good for Britain? Too much, too quick.. thats
what we are getting all over Britain. If you were a Pakistani moving to a foreign County you
would do your best to integrate? Yes?... No need if there are tens of thousands of your Countrymen
all living in a 'little Pakistan'... Same goes for any other foreign national/religion or colour.

I notice you said "white racist Millwall types" there are black and asian 'Types" every bit
as bad if not worse. Worse because THEIR racism is largely ignored for fear of upsetting the very
'image' of enrichment you wish to portray.[/quote]


When i said enriched i was talking long term taffy, i mentioned Millwall types because that's what i believe sparked this thread off......and as far as contributing is concerned there are many British folk that contribute f**k all, shall we move em out and replace them as well while we're at it.....like i said genralising equals prejudice.[/quote]

Disagree. Yes we have many 'British folk' (i assume you mean white ones?) that contribute
f**k all to society. But they are here, like it or lump it. That cannot mean (surely) that we open the
door and say "job or no job, welcome to Britain"

Who has generalised on this thread? Not me. There ARE filthy lying cheating criminal scum
sneaking into Britain from Somalia, Iraq, Albania, Pakistan, Lithuania. There are also many
skilled, hard working, honourable people.

It needs to stop.

If someone has a recognisable trade, a skill we need in Britain, then welcome. But Asylum Seekers???

Not a chance.

There is not ONE dangerous Country on Britains doorstep. This means the overwhelming majority
of Asylum Seekers in Britain have passed through other SAFE countries to get here. Thats illegal.
I never made the law. Its a good law!

Its societys problem not football

Most definitely!!

London is an absolute melting pot of nationalities/religions/colour and it
is not working. People stick with their own kind, whether that be
African/Asian/Polish/Turkish/White British. Birds of a feather flock together!
Is it racist to do that? Of course not! But those are the conditions that breed
racism, always have always will!.... Well done Blair and the Blairites!!!

I work and live in London and you are saying the people stick with their own kind? How long have you lived/been in London? I have definitely seen cultures mixed here, it's open and positive. It sounds like you don't want cultures mixing with each other at all. I guess you are afraid to being open about different cultures (which is a shame) hahahaha. There are only small sections of society which have these problems (which is probably what you only see) and need to be sorted out! but as a bigger picture I have definitely seen more cultures mixing together. So to say that is untrue.

and to reply to this topic It's a shame that stuff like this happens in society. To hate someone cause of the colour of their skin or their background is cowardly and pathetic, there is no excuse to act that way.

Its societys problem not football

Most definitely!!

London is an absolute melting pot of nationalities/religions/colour and it
is not working. People stick with their own kind, whether that be
African/Asian/Polish/Turkish/White British. Birds of a feather flock together!
Is it racist to do that? Of course not! But those are the conditions that breed
racism, always have always will!.... Well done Blair and the Blairites!!!

I work and live in London and you are saying the people stick with their own kind? How long have you lived/been in London? I have definitely seen cultures mixed here, it's open and positive. It sounds like you don't want cultures mixing with each other at all. I guess you are afraid to being open about different cultures (which is a shame) hahahaha. There are only small sections of society which have these problems (which is probably what you only see) and need to be sorted out! but as a bigger picture I have definitely seen more cultures mixing together. So to say that is untrue.

and to reply to this topic It's a shame that stuff like this happens in society. To hate someone cause of the colour of their skin or their background is cowardly and pathetic, there is no excuse to act that way.

What an absolute KNOBHEAD of a response. Of course cultures mix. Where have I ever intimated that
I dont want cultures mixing. I have spent years in london so no blue peter badge for you there lad

What IS happening in London is that there are Asian areas, black areas, and even bloody white areas now!!

These areas are not decreasing in size or number, they are increasing. Not just in London

It is detrimental to society.

Got a link?

here we go fella

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2cUXbEbeBgw

Anyways. Back to the meat and drink of the thread...

Its all very well and good highlighting these moronic baldy Millwall bastards
but society has a serious problem with racism right across the spectrum and
until the Establishment admits it, and meets it head on. Shit is going to get
major.

Its societys problem not football

Most definitely!!

London is an absolute melting pot of nationalities/religions/colour and it
is not working. People stick with their own kind, whether that be
African/Asian/Polish/Turkish/White British. Birds of a feather flock together!
Is it racist to do that? Of course not! But those are the conditions that breed
racism, always have always will!.... Well done Blair and the Blairites!!!

I work and live in London and you are saying the people stick with their own kind? How long have you lived/been in London? I have definitely seen cultures mixed here, it's open and positive. It sounds like you don't want cultures mixing with each other at all. I guess you are afraid to being open about different cultures (which is a shame) hahahaha. There are only small sections of society which have these problems (which is probably what you only see) and need to be sorted out! but as a bigger picture I have definitely seen more cultures mixing together. So to say that is untrue.

and to reply to this topic It's a shame that stuff like this happens in society. To hate someone cause of the colour of their skin or their background is cowardly and pathetic, there is no excuse to act that way.

What an absolute KNOBHEAD of a response. Of course cultures mix. Where have I ever intimated that
I dont want cultures mixing. I have spent years in london so no blue peter badge for you there lad

What IS happening in London is that there are Asian areas, black areas, and even bloody white areas now!!

These areas are not decreasing in size or number, they are increasing. Not just in London

It is detrimental to society.

Have you been living in London recently? when you say 'People stick with their own kind' in terms of being in London I laugh at how wrong that statement is. Yes people of same cultures do hang together but it's more mixed than a one coloured patch in London and Cardiff.

AH WHAT! I really wanted that Blue Peter Badge! Can I have one?

So what is your solution if this is 'detrimental to society'?

There's plenty of Muslims who hate White people, they just don't frequent the local football stadium to vent there frustrations. I've heard plenty of racism on the bob bank over the years, some of these people have coloured friends etc
It's part of society running through out the country, Muslims dislike Jews, Christians, and generally everyone. Jews dislike Muslims, Christians dislike Muslims and Jews. White ordinary folk enjoy getting pissed and singing songs with there mates winding people up, not all White people mind.

Some people just need to grow a set of balls

53-year-old man arrested for alleged racist abuse during Millwall's match against Leeds

Sky Sports News report identified 56 examples of racist abuse at Millwall
Sustained abuse heard from Block 28 at The Den
Millwall 'appalled' by footage and captain Danny Shittu 'deeply saddened'


http://www.dailymail.co.uk/sport/footba ... Leeds.html

Its societys problem not football

Most definitely!!

London is an absolute melting pot of nationalities/religions/colour and it
is not working. People stick with their own kind, whether that be
African/Asian/Polish/Turkish/White British. Birds of a feather flock together!
Is it racist to do that? Of course not! But those are the conditions that breed
racism, always have always will!.... Well done Blair and the Blairites!!!

I work and live in London and you are saying the people stick with their own kind? How long have you lived/been in London? I have definitely seen cultures mixed here, it's open and positive. It sounds like you don't want cultures mixing with each other at all. I guess you are afraid to being open about different cultures (which is a shame) hahahaha. There are only small sections of society which have these problems (which is probably what you only see) and need to be sorted out! but as a bigger picture I have definitely seen more cultures mixing together. So to say that is untrue.

and to reply to this topic It's a shame that stuff like this happens in society. To hate someone cause of the colour of their skin or their background is cowardly and pathetic, there is no excuse to act that way.

What an absolute KNOBHEAD of a response. Of course cultures mix. Where have I ever intimated that
I dont want cultures mixing. I have spent years in london so no blue peter badge for you there lad

What IS happening in London is that there are Asian areas, black areas, and even bloody white areas now!!

These areas are not decreasing in size or number, they are increasing. Not just in London

It is detrimental to society.

Have you been living in London recently? when you say 'People stick with their own kind' in terms of being in London I laugh at how wrong that statement is. Yes people of same cultures do hang together but it's more mixed than a one coloured patch in London and Cardiff.

AH WHAT! I really wanted that Blue Peter Badge! Can I have one?

So what is your solution if this is 'detrimental to society'?

Ive worked/lived in and around London for a lot of my working life. Have you
been to Tower Hamlets lately? Wandered around Whitechapel? 'Hanging' together?
Try walking through Eltham if your Asian or Black.

Ever been to Oldham? http://www.bbc.co.uk/radio4/today/repor ... ham1.shtml

People of different ethnicities (of course) live side by side right across Britain, but your Utopian
Society does not exist. Frankly, its people like yourself, and the Establishment who need to wake
up and open their eyes. Britain is becoming segregated and divided by race in parts of many major
Cities. If your saying it isn't, then I'm saying the solution is education. Because until people admit
there IS a problem... its not going to improve. Or are you saying the Asian v Black gang wars in
parts of Birmingham werent 'racist'???

I never said I had a solution. But its more frightening knowing you dont think there is a problem

Its societys problem not football

Most definitely!!

London is an absolute melting pot of nationalities/religions/colour and it
is not working. People stick with their own kind, whether that be
African/Asian/Polish/Turkish/White British. Birds of a feather flock together!
Is it racist to do that? Of course not! But those are the conditions that breed
racism, always have always will!.... Well done Blair and the Blairites!!!

I work and live in London and you are saying the people stick with their own kind? How long have you lived/been in London? I have definitely seen cultures mixed here, it's open and positive. It sounds like you don't want cultures mixing with each other at all. I guess you are afraid to being open about different cultures (which is a shame) hahahaha. There are only small sections of society which have these problems (which is probably what you only see) and need to be sorted out! but as a bigger picture I have definitely seen more cultures mixing together. So to say that is untrue.

and to reply to this topic It's a shame that stuff like this happens in society. To hate someone cause of the colour of their skin or their background is cowardly and pathetic, there is no excuse to act that way.

What an absolute KNOBHEAD of a response. Of course cultures mix. Where have I ever intimated that
I dont want cultures mixing. I have spent years in london so no blue peter badge for you there lad

What IS happening in London is that there are Asian areas, black areas, and even bloody white areas now!!

These areas are not decreasing in size or number, they are increasing. Not just in London

It is detrimental to society.

Have you been living in London recently? when you say 'People stick with their own kind' in terms of being in London I laugh at how wrong that statement is. Yes people of same cultures do hang together but it's more mixed than a one coloured patch in London and Cardiff.

AH WHAT! I really wanted that Blue Peter Badge! Can I have one?

So what is your solution if this is 'detrimental to society'?

Ive worked/lived in and around London for a lot of my working life. Have you
been to Tower Hamlets lately? Wandered around Whitechapel? 'Hanging' together?
Try walking through Eltham if your Asian or Black.

Ever been to Oldham? http://www.bbc.co.uk/radio4/today/repor ... ham1.shtml

People of different ethnicities (of course) live side by side right across Britain, but your Utopian
Society does not exist. Frankly, its people like yourself, and the Establishment who need to wake
up and open their eyes. Britain is becoming segregated and divided by race in parts of many major
Cities. If your saying it isn't, then I'm saying the solution is education. Because until people admit
there IS a problem... its not going to improve. Or are you saying the Asian v Black gang wars in
parts of Birmingham werent 'racist'???

I never said I had a solution. But its more frightening knowing you dont think there is a problem

i think a lot of this is your stuff Taffy.....im in Whitechapel quite a bit and yes it is a asian area but it is also a clubbing area and there are all types of cultures getting on with life having fun...dancing, f*cking, working,living mingling and enjoying life.
I've lived up here for over 30 years but i just don't see what your portraying i see little snippets from all sectors of society now and again, like them stupid east end muslim fanatics, but its nothing compared to the bigger picture.....its one of the best city's in the world.....and thats because of the mix of people....NYC is exactly the same.

Its societys problem not football

Most definitely!!

London is an absolute melting pot of nationalities/religions/colour and it
is not working. People stick with their own kind, whether that be
African/Asian/Polish/Turkish/White British. Birds of a feather flock together!
Is it racist to do that? Of course not! But those are the conditions that breed
racism, always have always will!.... Well done Blair and the Blairites!!!

I work and live in London and you are saying the people stick with their own kind? How long have you lived/been in London? I have definitely seen cultures mixed here, it's open and positive. It sounds like you don't want cultures mixing with each other at all. I guess you are afraid to being open about different cultures (which is a shame) hahahaha. There are only small sections of society which have these problems (which is probably what you only see) and need to be sorted out! but as a bigger picture I have definitely seen more cultures mixing together. So to say that is untrue.

and to reply to this topic It's a shame that stuff like this happens in society. To hate someone cause of the colour of their skin or their background is cowardly and pathetic, there is no excuse to act that way.

What an absolute KNOBHEAD of a response. Of course cultures mix. Where have I ever intimated that
I dont want cultures mixing. I have spent years in london so no blue peter badge for you there lad

What IS happening in London is that there are Asian areas, black areas, and even bloody white areas now!!

These areas are not decreasing in size or number, they are increasing. Not just in London

It is detrimental to society.

Have you been living in London recently? when you say 'People stick with their own kind' in terms of being in London I laugh at how wrong that statement is. Yes people of same cultures do hang together but it's more mixed than a one coloured patch in London and Cardiff.

AH WHAT! I really wanted that Blue Peter Badge! Can I have one?

So what is your solution if this is 'detrimental to society'?

Ive worked/lived in and around London for a lot of my working life. Have you
been to Tower Hamlets lately? Wandered around Whitechapel? 'Hanging' together?
Try walking through Eltham if your Asian or Black.

Ever been to Oldham? http://www.bbc.co.uk/radio4/today/repor ... ham1.shtml

People of different ethnicities (of course) live side by side right across Britain, but your Utopian
Society does not exist. Frankly, its people like yourself, and the Establishment who need to wake
up and open their eyes. Britain is becoming segregated and divided by race in parts of many major
Cities. If your saying it isn't, then I'm saying the solution is education. Because until people admit
there IS a problem... its not going to improve. Or are you saying the Asian v Black gang wars in
parts of Birmingham werent 'racist'???

I never said I had a solution. But its more frightening knowing you dont think there is a problem

Tower Hamlets/Whitechapel are hipster/art areas now.......I know cause I work 2/3 stops away from there. Plus business's are now moving into the area along with an injection of money from the government to give it a new makeover like they did with Kings Cross. So you're completely wrong. I'll give it to you 10-30 years ago it would have been a no go area along with kings cross/angel. You say working life, how long ago was this? London is very quick at changing you shouldn't forget that.

That link you provided about the Oldham youth's is very OBSCENE AND DISGUSTING. It's a small section of society that you are making a bigger deal of to scare people, The UK will never head towards that way because members of the public won't let that happen FROM ALL CULTURES people are going to stand up and not let that happen. You think that one groups actions is a whole cultures actions when that is not the case.

My eye's are open enough to see what is going on in Society. I agree education is KEY and VITAL but not to frighten and scare people.

I do believe there is a problem and it is media of trying to scare people into believing some bullish article that the Daily Mail paper has printed and once people start believing that then we live in a stupid society when instead people should do their research if they are that concerned about a specific subject and see from other viewpoints and make their mind up then.

Tower Hamlets/Whitechapel are hipster/art areas now.......I know cause I work 2/3 stops away from there. Plus business's are now moving into the area along with an injection of money from the government to give it a new makeover like they did with Kings Cross. So you're completely wrong. I'll give it to you 10-30 years ago it would have been a no go area along with kings cross/angel. You say working life, how long ago was this? London is very quick at changing you shouldn't forget that.

That link you provided about the Oldham youth's is very OBSCENE AND DISGUSTING. It's a small section of society that you are making a bigger deal of to scare people, The UK will never head towards that way because members of the public won't let that happen FROM ALL CULTURES people are going to stand up and not let that happen. You think that one groups actions is a whole cultures actions when that is not the case.

My eye's are open enough to see what is going on in Society. I agree education is KEY and VITAL but not to frighten and scare people.

I do believe there is a problem and it is media of trying to scare people into believing some bullish article that the Daily Mail paper has printed and once people start believing that then we live in a stupid society when instead people should do their research if they are that concerned about a specific subject and see from other viewpoints and make their mind up then.[/quote]

Your words:

That link you provided about the Oldham youth's is very OBSCENE AND DISGUSTING. It's a small section of society that you are making a bigger deal of to scare people, The UK will never head towards that way because members of the public won't let that happen FROM ALL CULTURES people are going to stand up and not let that happen

Your in denial.

Its embarrassing reading your twisted PC view of plain facts.

Oldham, amongst other Citys and areas has a HUGE problem of young Asian youths attacking
whites. the evidence is there in black and white. I never wrote it, but your saying its blown
out of all proportion....by me?

Yet you dont think a few baldy morons being splattered all over the media and press doing
monkey chants is 'blowing it out of all proportion"... why not?

Are you seriously suggesting one is a problem and one isn't.

As for Tower Hamlets? Have a word with yourself feller, here's the first 'google' search i
done on Globe Town... http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:Globe ... ed_version).png

Where's your cultural mix there? Tower Hamlets an 'arty farty' area.

Who the f**k are you trying to kid here?

Tower Hamlets/Whitechapel are hipster/art areas now.......I know cause I work 2/3 stops away from there. Plus business's are now moving into the area along with an injection of money from the government to give it a new makeover like they did with Kings Cross. So you're completely wrong. I'll give it to you 10-30 years ago it would have been a no go area along with kings cross/angel. You say working life, how long ago was this? London is very quick at changing you shouldn't forget that.

That link you provided about the Oldham youth's is very OBSCENE AND DISGUSTING. It's a small section of society that you are making a bigger deal of to scare people, The UK will never head towards that way because members of the public won't let that happen FROM ALL CULTURES people are going to stand up and not let that happen. You think that one groups actions is a whole cultures actions when that is not the case.

My eye's are open enough to see what is going on in Society. I agree education is KEY and VITAL but not to frighten and scare people.

I do believe there is a problem and it is media of trying to scare people into believing some bullish article that the Daily Mail paper has printed and once people start believing that then we live in a stupid society when instead people should do their research if they are that concerned about a specific subject and see from other viewpoints and make their mind up then.

Your words:

That link you provided about the Oldham youth's is very OBSCENE AND DISGUSTING. It's a small section of society that you are making a bigger deal of to scare people, The UK will never head towards that way because members of the public won't let that happen FROM ALL CULTURES people are going to stand up and not let that happen

Your in denial.

Its embarrassing reading your twisted PC view of plain facts.

Oldham, amongst other Citys and areas has a HUGE problem of young Asian youths attacking
whites. the evidence is there in black and white. I never wrote it, but your saying its blown
out of all proportion....by me?

Yet you dont think a few baldy morons being splattered all over the media and press doing
monkey chants is 'blowing it out of all proportion"... why not?

Are you seriously suggesting one is a problem and one isn't.

As for Tower Hamlets? Have a word with yourself feller, here's the first 'google' search i
done on Globe Town... http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:Globe ... ed_version).png

Where's your cultural mix there? Tower Hamlets an 'arty farty' area.

Who the f**k are you trying to kid here? [/quote]

Wikipedia......you need to get out more Taffy.

:laughing6:
Wikipedia......you need to get out more Taffy.

The point was YOU trying to paint Tower Hamlets as some kind of rich
ehtnic mix of artists and rainbow coloured beatniks Never
been to Globe Town have ya

So explain to me.

Why do the Millwall morons make national TV and media for their racist chanting.

Yet most British people are blissfully unaware that parts of Dewsbury (for instance)
have become no go areas for whites (not forgetting the Oldham "Whites not Welcome" story of course)

Can you explain this. Or do you SERIOUSLY believe this isnt happening, and its just me
stirring??

Tower Hamlets/Whitechapel are hipster/art areas now.......I know cause I work 2/3 stops away from there. Plus business's are now moving into the area along with an injection of money from the government to give it a new makeover like they did with Kings Cross. So you're completely wrong. I'll give it to you 10-30 years ago it would have been a no go area along with kings cross/angel. You say working life, how long ago was this? London is very quick at changing you shouldn't forget that.

That link you provided about the Oldham youth's is very OBSCENE AND DISGUSTING. It's a small section of society that you are making a bigger deal of to scare people, The UK will never head towards that way because members of the public won't let that happen FROM ALL CULTURES people are going to stand up and not let that happen. You think that one groups actions is a whole cultures actions when that is not the case.

My eye's are open enough to see what is going on in Society. I agree education is KEY and VITAL but not to frighten and scare people.

I do believe there is a problem and it is media of trying to scare people into believing some bullish article that the Daily Mail paper has printed and once people start believing that then we live in a stupid society when instead people should do their research if they are that concerned about a specific subject and see from other viewpoints and make their mind up then.

Your words:

That link you provided about the Oldham youth's is very OBSCENE AND DISGUSTING. It's a small section of society that you are making a bigger deal of to scare people, The UK will never head towards that way because members of the public won't let that happen FROM ALL CULTURES people are going to stand up and not let that happen

Your in denial.

Its embarrassing reading your twisted PC view of plain facts.

Oldham, amongst other Citys and areas has a HUGE problem of young Asian youths attacking
whites. the evidence is there in black and white. I never wrote it, but your saying its blown
out of all proportion....by me?

Yet you dont think a few baldy morons being splattered all over the media and press doing
monkey chants is 'blowing it out of all proportion"... why not?

Are you seriously suggesting one is a problem and one isn't.

As for Tower Hamlets? Have a word with yourself feller, here's the first 'google' search i
done on Globe Town... http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:Globe ... ed_version).png

Where's your cultural mix there? Tower Hamlets an 'arty farty' area.

Who the f**k are you trying to kid here?

[/quote]

Pahahahahaha a picture of youths in one area? do me a favour and find more pictures of Asian kids in 'gangs' all over Shoreditch/Hackney/Whitechapel/Tower Hamlets/Dalston/Angel/Kings Cross/Brick Lane. They are all hipster/art area's, do me another favour and go down there yourself and you will see skinny jean kids wearing lensless glasses drinking their Starbucks. The fact you haven't even been down there recently shows all you care about is what you read and not actually going down there and seeing it for yourself. That itself is a joke feller. So don't bother with your wikipedia and get up off your computer and go down there instead of reading your biased media. You are probably going to mention again you've been London but I'll keep saying the same. GO THERE NOW TO SEE FOR YOURSELF.

Again you are saying ALL Asian youths in the UK are deadly? murderers? that is the point you are getting across. have you forgotten that everyone is different? or in your twisted mind one's action is everyone's action. I see what your manifesto is and I can't take it seriously.....it's a joke.

For me you epitomise someone who doesn't bother reading counter arguments. Someone who is ignorant

Tower Hamlets/Whitechapel are hipster/art areas now.......I know cause I work 2/3 stops away from there. Plus business's are now moving into the area along with an injection of money from the government to give it a new makeover like they did with Kings Cross. So you're completely wrong. I'll give it to you 10-30 years ago it would have been a no go area along with kings cross/angel. You say working life, how long ago was this? London is very quick at changing you shouldn't forget that.

That link you provided about the Oldham youth's is very OBSCENE AND DISGUSTING. It's a small section of society that you are making a bigger deal of to scare people, The UK will never head towards that way because members of the public won't let that happen FROM ALL CULTURES people are going to stand up and not let that happen. You think that one groups actions is a whole cultures actions when that is not the case.

My eye's are open enough to see what is going on in Society. I agree education is KEY and VITAL but not to frighten and scare people.

I do believe there is a problem and it is media of trying to scare people into believing some bullish article that the Daily Mail paper has printed and once people start believing that then we live in a stupid society when instead people should do their research if they are that concerned about a specific subject and see from other viewpoints and make their mind up then.

Your words:

That link you provided about the Oldham youth's is very OBSCENE AND DISGUSTING. It's a small section of society that you are making a bigger deal of to scare people, The UK will never head towards that way because members of the public won't let that happen FROM ALL CULTURES people are going to stand up and not let that happen

Your in denial.

Its embarrassing reading your twisted PC view of plain facts.

Oldham, amongst other Citys and areas has a HUGE problem of young Asian youths attacking
whites. the evidence is there in black and white. I never wrote it, but your saying its blown
out of all proportion....by me?

Yet you dont think a few baldy morons being splattered all over the media and press doing
monkey chants is 'blowing it out of all proportion"... why not?

Are you seriously suggesting one is a problem and one isn't.

As for Tower Hamlets? Have a word with yourself feller, here's the first 'google' search i
done on Globe Town... http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:Globe ... ed_version).png

Where's your cultural mix there? Tower Hamlets an 'arty farty' area.

Who the f**k are you trying to kid here?

Pahahahahaha a picture of youths in one area? do me a favour and find more pictures of Asian kids in 'gangs' all over Shoreditch/Hackney/Whitechapel/Tower Hamlets/Dalston/Angel/Kings Cross/Brick Lane. They are all hipster/art area's, do me another favour and go down there yourself and you will see skinny jean kids wearing lensless glasses drinking their Starbucks. The fact you haven't even been down there recently shows all you care about is what you read and not actually going down there and seeing it for yourself. That itself is a joke feller. So don't bother with your wikipedia and get up off your computer and go down there instead of reading your biased media. You are probably going to mention again you've been London but I'll keep saying the same. GO THERE NOW TO SEE FOR YOURSELF.

Again you are saying ALL Asian youths in the UK are deadly? murderers? that is the point you are getting across. have you forgotten that everyone is different? or in your twisted mind one's action is everyone's action. I see what your manifesto is and I can't take it seriously.....it's a joke.

For me you epitomise someone who doesn't bother reading counter arguments. Someone who is ignorant [/quote]

Righto. So somewhere, you've read a post by me saying ALL asian youths are murderers???

You plant pot.

I was in London before Xmas by the way. Went to see my mate on Hackney Road. Guess
what. As I walked up Cambridge Heath Road I never saw one artist with his easel out.
Just the same old minging flats to my right, the ones that look like they're built on stilts.
Do you know the ones i mean? Nah? Guessed as much

There are no-go areas for blacks/whites and Asians in Britain, but any publication I use
to highlight the fact you just toss aside and call it "scaremongering lies"

Yet jumped all over them dull Millwall twats in the media like your life depended on it. Says it all.

As I walked up Cambridge Heath Road I never saw one artist with his easel out.

Just shows how out of touch with modern society you are. A hipster/arty type person is usually a statement made on the way youth's appear (tight jeans and plimsoles etc) and often university/college students. Then you have the OBEY wearing lot etc. The chav's in chinos now. Nothing to do with actual art although some of them probably are art students.

Go to Urban Outfitters or ASOS, you will see them everywhere.

I don't see London as segregated at all. Its multicultural.

taffyapple talks as if one area being predominantly white and one area being predominantly black (as an example) means that these people want to keep to their own. It doesn't. The immigrants move to where they can afford or where they get housed and house prices often dictate where they get put or can live. These areas still have those from other backgrounds living there as each sector of London bleeds into the next and thats why its multicultural.

Go anywhere in London and you'll see all sorts of people. Newham for example, has a white population of 39% and the rest from ethnic minorities. That is not segregation at all. Camden has around 70% white population. Kensington has around 76% white population.

The better off the area, the less minorities.

As I walked up Cambridge Heath Road I never saw one artist with his easel out.

Just shows how out of touch with modern society you are. A hipster/arty type person is usually a statement made on the way youth's appear (tight jeans and plimsoles etc) and often university/college students. Then you have the OBEY wearing lot etc. The chav's in chinos now. Nothing to do with actual art although some of them probably are art students.

Go to Urban Outfitters or ASOS, you will see them everywhere.

I don't see London as segregated at all. Its multicultural.

taffyapple talks as if one area being predominantly white and one area being predominantly black (as an example) means that these people want to keep to their own. It doesn't. The immigrants move to where they can afford or where they get housed and house prices often dictate where they get put or can live. These areas still have those from other backgrounds living there as each sector of London bleeds into the next and thats why its multicultural.

Go anywhere in London and you'll see all sorts of people. Newham for example, has a white population of 39% and the rest from ethnic minorities. That is not segregation at all. Camden has around 70% white population. Kensington has around 76% white population.

The better off the area, the less minorities.

Its not segregation by decree. Its by choice. They CHOOSE to live where they live.

Most of Londons Bangladeshis live in Tower Hamlets. Why? Why not Thamesmead?
Why not Hackney? Why not Harlesden?.

Of Course you see all kinds of people FFS.

But with ALL those different nationalities in London... innit funny how we only
ever see White knuckledragging racists in the media. Or are you also suggesting
its a white-only phenomena?

Until the "hands across the ocean" brigade realise there is a huge problem of racism
amongst non- whites. the problem will grow. It WILL continue to grow because
Societies way is the PC way... lets go nick a white racist, it looks good on the news!