dont go into hospital if you can avoid it-

there is a good chance you wont be coming back from the shambolic NHS.

Safer at Budget Vets.

there is a good chance you wont be coming back from the shambolic NHS.

Don't blame the nurse's, blame the MANAGEMENT!!!

Oh damn I was planning on a trip there thanks for the warning

My ex went in for a few tests, so my lad and his dog came to stay with me for a few nights until she was done, that was 12 weeks ago and she is still on the critical list after picking up infections time after time, there was even a point where my boy couldn't visit his mum because they closed the ward due to a norovirus outbreak!

f*cking shambles...

there is a good chance you wont be coming back from the shambolic NHS.

Don't blame the nurse's, blame the MANAGEMENT!!!

The nurses and doctors are the management in most cases.
Who do you think "manages" the patients?
Who "cares" for the patients, or in this case, does not care? (clean, feed and just be generally nice to the patients, is it not the nurses).

there is a good chance you wont be coming back from the shambolic NHS.

Don't blame the nurse's, blame the MANAGEMENT!!!

The nurses and doctors are the management in most cases.
Who do you think "manages" the patients?
Who "cares" for the patients, or in this case, does not care? (clean, feed and just be generally nice to the patients, is it not the nurses).

Who manages budgets & cost controls at the NHS?

Years ago the cleanest and best place to avoid any germs was in hospital. So what has changed? One thing in particular is that Nurses now wear their uniforms outside of the hospital bringing in the germs from outside. There is an easy solution, simply ensure that the uniforms are kept in the hospital and that the nurses have a fresh clean uniform on every day. I know a few nurses and they all want this change.

As well as that I would get shot of all the contract cleaners and only employ in-house staff.

Years ago the cleanest and best place to avoid any germs was in hospital. So what has changed? One thing in particular is that Nurses now wear their uniforms outside of the hospital bringing in the germs from outside. There is an easy solution, simply ensure that the uniforms are kept in the hospital and that the nurses have a fresh clean uniform on every day. I know a few nurses and they all want this change.

As well as that I would get shot of all the contract cleaners and only employ in-house staff.

This is true, but there was a time when the NHS laundered & pressed all their staffs uniforms, scrubbs etc.

Not any more, due to cost cutting, they have to do it themselves.

Years ago the cleanest and best place to avoid any germs was in hospital. So what has changed? One thing in particular is that Nurses now wear their uniforms outside of the hospital bringing in the germs from outside. There is an easy solution, simply ensure that the uniforms are kept in the hospital and that the nurses have a fresh clean uniform on every day. I know a few nurses and they all want this change.

As well as that I would get shot of all the contract cleaners and only employ in-house staff.

they shouldn't be wearing any uniform other than in the hospital, its in the guidlines that everyone has to follow,

I'm always looking to avoid going to hospital.

Years ago the cleanest and best place to avoid any germs was in hospital. So what has changed? One thing in particular is that Nurses now wear their uniforms outside of the hospital bringing in the germs from outside. There is an easy solution, simply ensure that the uniforms are kept in the hospital and that the nurses have a fresh clean uniform on every day. I know a few nurses and they all want this change.

As well as that I would get shot of all the contract cleaners and only employ in-house staff.

they shouldn't be wearing any uniform other than in the hospital, its in the guidlines that everyone has to follow,

Out of interest, what "guide lines" are these?

Years ago the cleanest and best place to avoid any germs was in hospital. So what has changed? One thing in particular is that Nurses now wear their uniforms outside of the hospital bringing in the germs from outside. There is an easy solution, simply ensure that the uniforms are kept in the hospital and that the nurses have a fresh clean uniform on every day. I know a few nurses and they all want this change.

As well as that I would get shot of all the contract cleaners and only employ in-house staff.

This is true, but there was a time when the NHS laundered & pressed all their staffs uniforms, scrubbs etc.

Not any more, due to cost cutting, they have to do it themselves.

If they cannot keep themselves clean and tidy (wash, iron etc) then is it any wonder they cannot look after patients?

Why shouldn't they wash and iron their own clothes? I have to, and I keep myself clean and tidy everyday, as do most people.
They are provided with free uniforms, I like many others, have to buy my own.

Nurses believe their own (and the media ) hype of how they are "angels" and whenever anything goes wrong it is the management fault. It is not budget control that is responsible for a basic caring attitude, and looking after people (feed, hygiene, smile, compassion are free and easy to provide). Ask Ann Clwyd?

My sister is a "Sister" at the Heath. Shes not seen too much wrong there, but she did say certain areas have trouble with the drainage. Now and again it comes up and fills the sinks and toilet and over flows.

Mrs going in for a C-Section Tuesday, got help us :f

My ex went in for a few tests, so my lad and his dog came to stay with me for a few nights until she was done, that was 12 weeks ago and she is still on the critical list after picking up infections time after time, there was even a point where my boy couldn't visit his mum because they closed the ward due to a norovirus outbreak!

f*cking shambles...

Hope she's ok mate.

Lucky not many of you have to use the Gwent.

Years ago the cleanest and best place to avoid any germs was in hospital. So what has changed? One thing in particular is that Nurses now wear their uniforms outside of the hospital bringing in the germs from outside. There is an easy solution, simply ensure that the uniforms are kept in the hospital and that the nurses have a fresh clean uniform on every day. I know a few nurses and they all want this change.

As well as that I would get shot of all the contract cleaners and only employ in-house staff.

This is true, but there was a time when the NHS laundered & pressed all their staffs uniforms, scrubbs etc.

Not any more, due to cost cutting, they have to do it themselves.

If they cannot keep themselves clean and tidy (wash, iron etc) then is it any wonder they cannot look after patients?

Why shouldn't they wash and iron their own clothes? I have to, and I keep myself clean and tidy everyday, as do most people.
They are provided with free uniforms, I like many others, have to buy my own.

Nurses believe their own (and the media ) hype of how they are "angels" and whenever anything goes wrong it is the management fault. It is not budget control that is responsible for a basic caring attitude, and looking after people (feed, hygiene, smile, compassion are free and easy to provide). Ask Ann Clwyd?

I am a nurse, I work full time, I have been issued with 5 sets of "Smart Scrubs" to wear. The unit I work on has a room that is utilised as a changing room for staff. It is probably 12 ft square and then there are approximately 60 lockers, for 250 staff, which are aprox 1x1.5x1.5 ft each. There is no privacy, no showering facilities and no facilities to put soiled uniforms in for decontamination.

On each shift I work there are 30 staff on duty ( I work in an area requiring a 1:2 or 1:1 nurse :patient ratio) can you imagine the crush in the changing room if every member of staff arrived for duty at 6.30 am/pm to change in that environment?
Most of my colleagues wear their uniform to work as they have no where to secure their outdoor clothes etc. and bags are not allowed in the clinical area.
We then have to travel home in our soiled uniform, with all the "contaminates" that we pick up despite the PPE (personal protective equipment)we wear at all times when dealing with patient care from personal care of the patient to giving medications and feeding, (yes feeding we do feed out patients although this can be difficult when the catering dept doesn't provide anything suitable for our patients.)
We then have to wash these uniforms in a domestic washing machine.
I would like to ask Abergblue what job he does, does it involve dealing with human blood, bodily waste? Because I hate having to wash my uniforms in my own machine and then wash my families clothes in the same machine.

15 yrs ago I worked in a hospital where everyone was issued with a locker, in a large central changing room, 7 uniforms, a card which was put into a machine and a clean uniform was issued, there were showering facilities too if required. These facilities are not available at the hospital I now work at, one of the biggest in Wales.

As for the caring compassionate people yes there are people who don't meet this expectation within the NHS but there are people who don't meet this expectation in all walks of life.

When a member of public says to a nurse that being assaulted by a patient is "part of their job" I feel devalued, demotivated and worthless. No where in my job description does it say I should accept assault with good grace and not complain.

The issues that were highlighted by Ms Clwyd are a different issue. Such things as her husband being cold because he didn't have a blanket, I walk in to our linen room on numerous occasions throughout a shift in the hope that a pillow, a blanket a sheet, towel, gown has miraculously appeared so that I can change the soiled linen on my patients bed, only to find hundreds of pillow cases but no sheet or towel or blanket or pillow. I have used blankets for pillows because there aren't enough then had to use the blanket to cover the patient because they are cold. The family then ask can he have a pillow then, and I feel ashamed to say to them we don't have any.

We work with what we have. That can be extremely challenging, but where I work we try and do what we can, with what we have, with a smile, with compassion and a caring word EVERY SINGLE TIME WE INTERACT WITH A PATIENT, THEIR FAMILY MEMBERS, IN FACT ANYONE WE COME INTO CONTACT WITH.

there is a good chance you wont be coming back from the shambolic NHS.

it is poor,but if you were ill,would you not go???

Years ago the cleanest and best place to avoid any germs was in hospital. So what has changed? One thing in particular is that Nurses now wear their uniforms outside of the hospital bringing in the germs from outside. There is an easy solution, simply ensure that the uniforms are kept in the hospital and that the nurses have a fresh clean uniform on every day. I know a few nurses and they all want this change.

As well as that I would get shot of all the contract cleaners and only employ in-house staff.

This is true, but there was a time when the NHS laundered & pressed all their staffs uniforms, scrubbs etc.

Not any more, due to cost cutting, they have to do it themselves.

If they cannot keep themselves clean and tidy (wash, iron etc) then is it any wonder they cannot look after patients?

Why shouldn't they wash and iron their own clothes? I have to, and I keep myself clean and tidy everyday, as do most people.
They are provided with free uniforms, I like many others, have to buy my own.

Nurses believe their own (and the media ) hype of how they are "angels" and whenever anything goes wrong it is the management fault. It is not budget control that is responsible for a basic caring attitude, and looking after people (feed, hygiene, smile, compassion are free and easy to provide). Ask Ann Clwyd?

I am a nurse, I work full time, I have been issued with 5 sets of "Smart Scrubs" to wear. The unit I work on has a room that is utilised as a changing room for staff. It is probably 12 ft square and then there are approximately 60 lockers, for 250 staff, which are aprox 1x1.5x1.5 ft each. There is no privacy, no showering facilities and no facilities to put soiled uniforms in for decontamination.

On each shift I work there are 30 staff on duty ( I work in an area requiring a 1:2 or 1:1 nurse :patient ratio) can you imagine the crush in the changing room if every member of staff arrived for duty at 6.30 am/pm to change in that environment?
Most of my colleagues wear their uniform to work as they have no where to secure their outdoor clothes etc. and bags are not allowed in the clinical area.
We then have to travel home in our soiled uniform, with all the "contaminates" that we pick up despite the PPE (personal protective equipment)we wear at all times when dealing with patient care from personal care of the patient to giving medications and feeding, (yes feeding we do feed out patients although this can be difficult when the catering dept doesn't provide anything suitable for our patients.)
We then have to wash these uniforms in a domestic washing machine.
I would like to ask Abergblue what job he does, does it involve dealing with human blood, bodily waste? Because I hate having to wash my uniforms in my own machine and then wash my families clothes in the same machine.

15 yrs ago I worked in a hospital where everyone was issued with a locker, in a large central changing room, 7 uniforms, a card which was put into a machine and a clean uniform was issued, there were showering facilities too if required. These facilities are not available at the hospital I now work at, one of the biggest in Wales.

As for the caring compassionate people yes there are people who don't meet this expectation within the NHS but there are people who don't meet this expectation in all walks of life.

When a member of public says to a nurse that being assaulted by a patient is "part of their job" I feel devalued, demotivated and worthless. No where in my job description does it say I should accept assault with good grace and not complain.

The issues that were highlighted by Ms Clwyd are a different issue. Such things as her husband being cold because he didn't have a blanket, I walk in to our linen room on numerous occasions throughout a shift in the hope that a pillow, a blanket a sheet, towel, gown has miraculously appeared so that I can change the soiled linen on my patients bed, only to find hundreds of pillow cases but no sheet or towel or blanket or pillow. I have used blankets for pillows because there aren't enough then had to use the blanket to cover the patient because they are cold. The family then ask can he have a pillow then, and I feel ashamed to say to them we don't have any.

We work with what we have. That can be extremely challenging, but where I work we try and do what we can, with what we have, with a smile, with compassion and a caring word EVERY SINGLE TIME WE INTERACT WITH A PATIENT, THEIR FAMILY MEMBERS, IN FACT ANYONE WE COME INTO CONTACT WITH.

massive respect to you

Years ago the cleanest and best place to avoid any germs was in hospital. So what has changed? One thing in particular is that Nurses now wear their uniforms outside of the hospital bringing in the germs from outside. There is an easy solution, simply ensure that the uniforms are kept in the hospital and that the nurses have a fresh clean uniform on every day. I know a few nurses and they all want this change.

As well as that I would get shot of all the contract cleaners and only employ in-house staff.

This is true, but there was a time when the NHS laundered & pressed all their staffs uniforms, scrubbs etc.

Not any more, due to cost cutting, they have to do it themselves.

If they cannot keep themselves clean and tidy (wash, iron etc) then is it any wonder they cannot look after patients?

Why shouldn't they wash and iron their own clothes? I have to, and I keep myself clean and tidy everyday, as do most people.
They are provided with free uniforms, I like many others, have to buy my own.

Nurses believe their own (and the media ) hype of how they are "angels" and whenever anything goes wrong it is the management fault. It is not budget control that is responsible for a basic caring attitude, and looking after people (feed, hygiene, smile, compassion are free and easy to provide). Ask Ann Clwyd?

I am a nurse, I work full time, I have been issued with 5 sets of "Smart Scrubs" to wear. The unit I work on has a room that is utilised as a changing room for staff. It is probably 12 ft square and then there are approximately 60 lockers, for 250 staff, which are aprox 1x1.5x1.5 ft each. There is no privacy, no showering facilities and no facilities to put soiled uniforms in for decontamination.

On each shift I work there are 30 staff on duty ( I work in an area requiring a 1:2 or 1:1 nurse :patient ratio) can you imagine the crush in the changing room if every member of staff arrived for duty at 6.30 am/pm to change in that environment?
Most of my colleagues wear their uniform to work as they have no where to secure their outdoor clothes etc. and bags are not allowed in the clinical area.
We then have to travel home in our soiled uniform, with all the "contaminates" that we pick up despite the PPE (personal protective equipment)we wear at all times when dealing with patient care from personal care of the patient to giving medications and feeding, (yes feeding we do feed out patients although this can be difficult when the catering dept doesn't provide anything suitable for our patients.)
We then have to wash these uniforms in a domestic washing machine.
I would like to ask Abergblue what job he does, does it involve dealing with human blood, bodily waste? Because I hate having to wash my uniforms in my own machine and then wash my families clothes in the same machine.

15 yrs ago I worked in a hospital where everyone was issued with a locker, in a large central changing room, 7 uniforms, a card which was put into a machine and a clean uniform was issued, there were showering facilities too if required. These facilities are not available at the hospital I now work at, one of the biggest in Wales.

As for the caring compassionate people yes there are people who don't meet this expectation within the NHS but there are people who don't meet this expectation in all walks of life.

When a member of public says to a nurse that being assaulted by a patient is "part of their job" I feel devalued, demotivated and worthless. No where in my job description does it say I should accept assault with good grace and not complain.

The issues that were highlighted by Ms Clwyd are a different issue. Such things as her husband being cold because he didn't have a blanket, I walk in to our linen room on numerous occasions throughout a shift in the hope that a pillow, a blanket a sheet, towel, gown has miraculously appeared so that I can change the soiled linen on my patients bed, only to find hundreds of pillow cases but no sheet or towel or blanket or pillow. I have used blankets for pillows because there aren't enough then had to use the blanket to cover the patient because they are cold. The family then ask can he have a pillow then, and I feel ashamed to say to them we don't have any.

We work with what we have. That can be extremely challenging, but where I work we try and do what we can, with what we have, with a smile, with compassion and a caring word EVERY SINGLE TIME WE INTERACT WITH A PATIENT, THEIR FAMILY MEMBERS, IN FACT ANYONE WE COME INTO




CONTACT WITH.

Years ago the cleanest and best place to avoid any germs was in hospital. So what has changed? One thing in particular is that Nurses now wear their uniforms outside of the hospital bringing in the germs from outside. There is an easy solution, simply ensure that the uniforms are kept in the hospital and that the nurses have a fresh clean uniform on every day. I know a few nurses and they all want this change.

As well as that I would get shot of all the contract cleaners and only employ in-house staff.

This is true, but there was a time when the NHS laundered & pressed all their staffs uniforms, scrubbs etc.

Not any more, due to cost cutting, they have to do it themselves.

If they cannot keep themselves clean and tidy (wash, iron etc) then is it any wonder they cannot look after patients?

Why shouldn't they wash and iron their own clothes? I have to, and I keep myself clean and tidy everyday, as do most people.
They are provided with free uniforms, I like many others, have to buy my own.

Nurses believe their own (and the media ) hype of how they are "angels" and whenever anything goes wrong it is the management fault. It is not budget control that is responsible for a basic caring attitude, and looking after people (feed, hygiene, smile, compassion are free and easy to provide). Ask Ann Clwyd?

I am a nurse, I work full time, I have been issued with 5 sets of "Smart Scrubs" to wear. The unit I work on has a room that is utilised as a changing room for staff. It is probably 12 ft square and then there are approximately 60 lockers, for 250 staff, which are aprox 1x1.5x1.5 ft each. There is no privacy, no showering facilities and no facilities to put soiled uniforms in for decontamination.

On each shift I work there are 30 staff on duty ( I work in an area requiring a 1:2 or 1:1 nurse :patient ratio) can you imagine the crush in the changing room if every member of staff arrived for duty at 6.30 am/pm to change in that environment?
Most of my colleagues wear their uniform to work as they have no where to secure their outdoor clothes etc. and bags are not allowed in the clinical area.
We then have to travel home in our soiled uniform, with all the "contaminates" that we pick up despite the PPE (personal protective equipment)we wear at all times when dealing with patient care from personal care of the patient to giving medications and feeding, (yes feeding we do feed out patients although this can be difficult when the catering dept doesn't provide anything suitable for our patients.)
We then have to wash these uniforms in a domestic washing machine.
I would like to ask Abergblue what job he does, does it involve dealing with human blood, bodily waste? Because I hate having to wash my uniforms in my own machine and then wash my families clothes in the same machine.

15 yrs ago I worked in a hospital where everyone was issued with a locker, in a large central changing room, 7 uniforms, a card which was put into a machine and a clean uniform was issued, there were showering facilities too if required. These facilities are not available at the hospital I now work at, one of the biggest in Wales.

As for the caring compassionate people yes there are people who don't meet this expectation within the NHS but there are people who don't meet this expectation in all walks of life.

When a member of public says to a nurse that being assaulted by a patient is "part of their job" I feel devalued, demotivated and worthless. No where in my job description does it say I should accept assault with good grace and not complain.

The issues that were highlighted by Ms Clwyd are a different issue. Such things as her husband being cold because he didn't have a blanket, I walk in to our linen room on numerous occasions throughout a shift in the hope that a pillow, a blanket a sheet, towel, gown has miraculously appeared so that I can change the soiled linen on my patients bed, only to find hundreds of pillow cases but no sheet or towel or blanket or pillow. I have used blankets for pillows because there aren't enough then had to use the blanket to cover the patient because they are cold. The family then ask can he have a pillow then, and I feel ashamed to say to them we don't have any.

We work with what we have. That can be extremely challenging, but where I work we try and do what we can, with what we have, with a smile, with compassion and a caring word EVERY SINGLE TIME WE INTERACT WITH A PATIENT, THEIR FAMILY MEMBERS, IN FACT ANYONE WE COME INTO




CONTACT WITH.

its for these reasons that Im so glad to be a district nurse and not on the wards although the uniform washing is still obviously a massive issue with us too!

Hadnt been to a hospital for many a long time not since I broke a collar bone playing football, but even then in and out same day not time to assess the current state of NHS. You read many stories in the press and media how bad hygiene is the foreign nurses, the lack of beds etc etc so needless to say I was worried when my mam went in recently for a heart op down the Heath. Well I ended up going back and for a month as she was kept in for a bit and I must say i was very impressed with what i witnessed and from what I could see people are doing are the best within the means they can. Some of the dinners she had better than my cooking lol !! There appeared to be a few issued but I would expect that in any nature of work, but overall the care and attitude of nurses and staff were superb and they are doing a great job for sure.

There are the facts from a nurse and I respect her point of view...it is easy to criticise but all the facts are not always clear ...I have spent months and months of my adult like in hospitals and currently will need more treatment soon...I am not scared to go in or worried about what to expect...I know from my many experiences that the taff there will Di their best with the tools they have. Also understand that there are one hoopoe stories revolving around hospitals but I can only speak as I find.

Hadnt been to a hospital for many a long time not since I broke a collar bone playing football, but even then in and out same day not time to assess the current state of NHS. You read many stories in the press and media how bad hygiene is the foreign nurses, the lack of beds etc etc so needless to say I was worried when my mam went in recently for a heart op down the Heath. Well I ended up going back and for a month as she was kept in for a bit and I must say i was very impressed with what i witnessed and from what I could see people are doing are the best within the means they can. Some of the dinners she had better than my cooking lol !! There appeared to be a few issued but I would expect that in any nature of work, but overall the care and attitude of nurses and staff were superb and they are doing a great job for sure.

Thank you, I know some of the staff that may well have looked after your mum and they are a great bunch of staff and caring and knowledgable too!

There are the facts from a nurse and I respect her point of view...it is easy to criticise but all the facts are not always clear ...I have spent months and months of my adult like in hospitals and currently will need more treatment soon...I am not scared to go in or worried about what to expect...I know from my many experiences that the taff there will Di their best with the tools they have. Also understand that there are one hoopoe stories revolving around hospitals but I can only speak as I find.

Thanks Corky its comments like this that give me hope and the will to carry on nursing.
There are days, like yesterday, and some people who comments make me feel I have wasted 28 years of my life in nursing because of all the negativity that is being heaped upon Nurses at the moment.