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We need one more full back I think

Thu Jan 31, 2013 7:47 pm

Then I will be happy we have adequate cover in all areas. I think we are fine for cover in all areas of our squad apart from at full back. If Taylor and Connolly both get injured for a few months Saturday, and we have to play the remainder of the season with Lappin at left back and McNaughton at right back, I think we will blow it. We need one more quality full back to come in I think, otherwise I will be worried if Taylor or Connolly get injured.

Re: We need one more full back I think

Thu Jan 31, 2013 7:51 pm

Tonteg Bluebird wrote:Then I will be happy we have adequate cover in all areas. I think we are fine for cover in all areas of our squad apart from at full back. If Taylor and Connolly both get injured for a few months Saturday, and we have to play the remainder of the season with Lappin at left back and McNaughton at right back, I think we will blow it. We need one more quality full back to come in I think, otherwise I will be worried if Taylor or Connolly get injured.


You need to take some 'calm down' tablets! :lol:

Re: We need one more full back I think

Thu Jan 31, 2013 7:53 pm

Declan john and coulson.will do for me as cover ..any way ifthat happenstheloan window opens in about a weeks time ...just believe ..the bluebirds are going up :ayatollah: :ayatollah:

Re: We need one more full back I think

Thu Jan 31, 2013 8:01 pm

mugsy wrote:
Tonteg Bluebird wrote:Then I will be happy we have adequate cover in all areas. I think we are fine for cover in all areas of our squad apart from at full back. If Taylor and Connolly both get injured for a few months Saturday, and we have to play the remainder of the season with Lappin at left back and McNaughton at right back, I think we will blow it. We need one more quality full back to come in I think, otherwise I will be worried if Taylor or Connolly get injured.


You need to take some 'calm down' tablets! :lol:


As Cardiff fans with all we have gone through, how can we calm down? :lol:

Re: We need one more full back I think

Thu Jan 31, 2013 8:09 pm

troobloo3339 wrote:Declan john and coulson.will do for me as cover ..any way ifthat happenstheloan window opens in about a weeks time ...just believe ..the bluebirds are going up :ayatollah: :ayatollah:


I really rate Declan John and would have no problem with him stepping in at left back, but we all know Malky will play Lappin if Taylor gets injured and this worries me. I haven't seen enough of Coulson, but he fell asleep to let Macclesfield equalise and although it seems he has plenty of talent, I wouldn't be happy with having to throw him in at the deep end. Like you say, the loan market is there after tonight, but the only full backs available on loan will probably only be young kids from Premiership teams who are no better than Declan John. I just feel if we can't bring in 1 more full back to cover the only area of our squad that doesn't have adequate cover when we are 10 points clear at the top, then we are taking an unnecessary risk.

Re: We need one more full back I think

Thu Jan 31, 2013 10:52 pm

Tonteg Bluebird wrote:
troobloo3339 wrote:Declan john and coulson.will do for me as cover ..any way ifthat happenstheloan window opens in about a weeks time ...just believe ..the bluebirds are going up :ayatollah: :ayatollah:


I really rate Declan John and would have no problem with him stepping in at left back, but we all know Malky will play Lappin if Taylor gets injured and this worries me. I haven't seen enough of Coulson, but he fell asleep to let Macclesfield equalise and although it seems he has plenty of talent, I wouldn't be happy with having to throw him in at the deep end. Like you say, the loan market is there after tonight, but the only full backs available on loan will probably only be young kids from Premiership teams who are no better than Declan John. I just feel if we can't bring in 1 more full back to cover the only area of our squad that doesn't have adequate cover when we are 10 points clear at the top, then we are taking an unnecessary risk.


Taylor
McNaughton
Connelly
John
Coulson
Lappin

Mate, thats THREE players that can cover each position.

I'm sure your a lovely lad, but you need some barbiturates or opium in your life :D :ayatollah: :ayatollah:

Re: We need one more full back I think

Thu Jan 31, 2013 11:00 pm

taffyapple wrote:
Tonteg Bluebird wrote:
troobloo3339 wrote:Declan john and coulson.will do for me as cover ..any way ifthat happenstheloan window opens in about a weeks time ...just believe ..the bluebirds are going up :ayatollah: :ayatollah:


I really rate Declan John and would have no problem with him stepping in at left back, but we all know Malky will play Lappin if Taylor gets injured and this worries me. I haven't seen enough of Coulson, but he fell asleep to let Macclesfield equalise and although it seems he has plenty of talent, I wouldn't be happy with having to throw him in at the deep end. Like you say, the loan market is there after tonight, but the only full backs available on loan will probably only be young kids from Premiership teams who are no better than Declan John. I just feel if we can't bring in 1 more full back to cover the only area of our squad that doesn't have adequate cover when we are 10 points clear at the top, then we are taking an unnecessary risk.


Taylor
McNaughton
Connelly
John
Coulson
Lappin

Mate, thats THREE players that can cover each position.

I'm sure your a lovely lad, but you need some barbiturates or opium in your life :D :ayatollah: :ayatollah:


In my opinion, only Taylor and Connolly are good enough for us. Lappin and McNaughton are the obvious back ups, but would you trust them to consistantly play well for our remaining 18 games? I would love to see Declan John being given a chance, but Malky has obviously signed Lappin as he doesn't want to throw John in at the deep end. Same with Coulson who is still a young lad and not ready yet.

So if Taylor and Connolly both get injured from now until the end of the season, would you think our remaining 4 full backs of Lappin, McNaughton, John and Coulson are good enough to step in and not let us down?

Re: We need one more full back I think

Thu Jan 31, 2013 11:25 pm

Tonteg Bluebird wrote:
taffyapple wrote:
Tonteg Bluebird wrote:
troobloo3339 wrote:Declan john and coulson.will do for me as cover ..any way ifthat happenstheloan window opens in about a weeks time ...just believe ..the bluebirds are going up :ayatollah: :ayatollah:


I really rate Declan John and would have no problem with him stepping in at left back, but we all know Malky will play Lappin if Taylor gets injured and this worries me. I haven't seen enough of Coulson, but he fell asleep to let Macclesfield equalise and although it seems he has plenty of talent, I wouldn't be happy with having to throw him in at the deep end. Like you say, the loan market is there after tonight, but the only full backs available on loan will probably only be young kids from Premiership teams who are no better than Declan John. I just feel if we can't bring in 1 more full back to cover the only area of our squad that doesn't have adequate cover when we are 10 points clear at the top, then we are taking an unnecessary risk.


Taylor
McNaughton
Connelly
John
Coulson
Lappin

Mate, thats THREE players that can cover each position.

I'm sure your a lovely lad, but you need some barbiturates or opium in your life :D :ayatollah: :ayatollah:


In my opinion, only Taylor and Connolly are good enough for us. Lappin and McNaughton are the obvious back ups, but would you trust them to consistantly play well for our remaining 18 games? I would love to see Declan John being given a chance, but Malky has obviously signed Lappin as he doesn't want to throw John in at the deep end. Same with Coulson who is still a young lad and not ready yet.

So if Taylor and Connolly both get injured from now until the end of the season, would you think our remaining 4 full backs of Lappin, McNaughton, John and Coulson are good enough to step in and not let us down?


What team could afford to lose both full-backs through injury and not be affected?

How would Leicester fare if Nugent and Wood got injured tomorrow and were out
for months? They'd be fucked is my guess. In answer to your question I think that
McNaughton has been playing a lot better lately and Lappin is a solid signing, but
we would STILL have Coulson and John, who I believe will go on to have very good
careers! We are covered adequately

Re: We need one more full back I think

Thu Jan 31, 2013 11:27 pm

I blame Dave Jones. Adam should still be here playing. #blameDaveJones :(

Re: We need one more full back I think

Thu Jan 31, 2013 11:44 pm

taffyapple wrote:
Tonteg Bluebird wrote:
taffyapple wrote:
Tonteg Bluebird wrote:
troobloo3339 wrote:Declan john and coulson.will do for me as cover ..any way ifthat happenstheloan window opens in about a weeks time ...just believe ..the bluebirds are going up :ayatollah: :ayatollah:


I really rate Declan John and would have no problem with him stepping in at left back, but we all know Malky will play Lappin if Taylor gets injured and this worries me. I haven't seen enough of Coulson, but he fell asleep to let Macclesfield equalise and although it seems he has plenty of talent, I wouldn't be happy with having to throw him in at the deep end. Like you say, the loan market is there after tonight, but the only full backs available on loan will probably only be young kids from Premiership teams who are no better than Declan John. I just feel if we can't bring in 1 more full back to cover the only area of our squad that doesn't have adequate cover when we are 10 points clear at the top, then we are taking an unnecessary risk.


Taylor
McNaughton
Connelly
John
Coulson
Lappin

Mate, thats THREE players that can cover each position.

I'm sure your a lovely lad, but you need some barbiturates or opium in your life :D :ayatollah: :ayatollah:


In my opinion, only Taylor and Connolly are good enough for us. Lappin and McNaughton are the obvious back ups, but would you trust them to consistantly play well for our remaining 18 games? I would love to see Declan John being given a chance, but Malky has obviously signed Lappin as he doesn't want to throw John in at the deep end. Same with Coulson who is still a young lad and not ready yet.

So if Taylor and Connolly both get injured from now until the end of the season, would you think our remaining 4 full backs of Lappin, McNaughton, John and Coulson are good enough to step in and not let us down?


What team could afford to lose both full-backs through injury and not be affected?

How would Leicester fare if Nugent and Wood got injured tomorrow and were out
for months? They'd be fucked is my guess. In answer to your question I think that
McNaughton has been playing a lot better lately and Lappin is a solid signing, but
we would STILL have Coulson and John, who I believe will go on to have very good
careers! We are covered adequately


Did you see Leicester's bench tonight? Vardy, Gallagher, Waghorn and Futacs were all on there. Any of those players could arguably step in and do a good job for any Championship club.

I'm not doubting John and Coulson will go on to have good careers. John in my opinion will be a Premiership left back for many, many years, hopefully with us. But Malky doesn't want John and Coulson to be thrown into the deep end and Lappin and McNaughton cannot be trusted to step in and consistantly play well if needed in my opinion. We needed adequate cover right now and I don't think we have it. My point is this:

Lewis is adequate back up to Marshall.

Nugent and Connolly (just using him as he's a centre back doing a job at right back as we are short on cover for full backs) are adequate cover for Hudson and Turner.

Kiss and Mutch are adequate cover for Gunnarsson or Cowie as the midfield "dog".

Ralls and Kim-Bo are adequate cover for Whittingham and Smith as creative, footballing midfielders.

Take your pick with Noone, Conway, Smith, Kim-Bo, Bellamy, Ralls or even Cowie to play out wide.

Helguson, Bellamy, Mason, and Campbell is enough cover for up front, with Smith able to play there also.

I think it's clear with the verstalility of Kim-Bo, Smith, Ralls and Bellamy, our attacking midfield/forward positions are well covered while we have enough physical centre midfielders to win battles in Cowie, Gunnarsson, Mutch and Kiss.

I have confidence in every player listed to be able to step in and not let us down when needed.

The only position I am really worried about is the full backs. I do not have confidence in Lappin and McNaughton to be able to step in and not let us down when needed. If we have to rely on one of those two for the majority of what's left of this season, it might come back to haunt us.

Just my opinion. :ayatollah:

Re: We need one more full back I think

Fri Feb 01, 2013 10:57 am

McNaughton will not lets us down. He can cover both full back positions. I know he cannot pass, but as a defender he is very good. Quick and not afraid to get stuck in. Remember how good he was against Man Ure's £15 million winger?

Re: We need one more full back I think

Fri Feb 01, 2013 11:44 am

Tonteg Bluebird wrote:
taffyapple wrote:
Tonteg Bluebird wrote:
troobloo3339 wrote:Declan john and coulson.will do for me as cover ..any way ifthat happenstheloan window opens in about a weeks time ...just believe ..the bluebirds are going up :ayatollah: :ayatollah:


I really rate Declan John and would have no problem with him stepping in at left back, but we all know Malky will play Lappin if Taylor gets injured and this worries me. I haven't seen enough of Coulson, but he fell asleep to let Macclesfield equalise and although it seems he has plenty of talent, I wouldn't be happy with having to throw him in at the deep end. Like you say, the loan market is there after tonight, but the only full backs available on loan will probably only be young kids from Premiership teams who are no better than Declan John. I just feel if we can't bring in 1 more full back to cover the only area of our squad that doesn't have adequate cover when we are 10 points clear at the top, then we are taking an unnecessary risk.


Taylor
McNaughton
Connelly
John
Coulson
Lappin

Mate, thats THREE players that can cover each position.

I'm sure your a lovely lad, but you need some barbiturates or opium in your life :D :ayatollah: :ayatollah:


In my opinion, only Taylor and Connolly are good enough for us. Lappin and McNaughton are the obvious back ups, but would you trust them to consistantly play well for our remaining 18 games? I would love to see Declan John being given a chance, but Malky has obviously signed Lappin as he doesn't want to throw John in at the deep end. Same with Coulson who is still a young lad and not ready yet.

So if Taylor and Connolly both get injured from now until the end of the season, would you think our remaining 4 full backs of Lappin, McNaughton, John and Coulson are good enough to step in and not let us down?


But what if the replacement full backs also get injured for the entire season and then the emergency loans we bring in to replace them also get injured? We're screwed!

We need a squad of at least 75 players, just to be certain that we can fulfil our fixtures, let alone remain 10 points clear!

FFS get a grip will you? :roll:

Re: We need one more full back I think

Fri Feb 01, 2013 5:32 pm

glas wrote:McNaughton will not lets us down. He can cover both full back positions. I know he cannot pass, but as a defender he is very good. Quick and not afraid to get stuck in. Remember how good he was against Man Ure's £15 million winger?


McNaughton did play really well against Zaha, but he's also had his fair share of poor games this season. I have no problems with McNaughton stepping in for a game every now and again, but I still wouldn't trust McNaughton to consistantly play well for us for a few months without letting us down a couple of times and costing us points. This is what worries me.

Re: We need one more full back I think

Fri Feb 01, 2013 5:39 pm

Howey1927 wrote:
Tonteg Bluebird wrote:
taffyapple wrote:
Tonteg Bluebird wrote:
troobloo3339 wrote:Declan john and coulson.will do for me as cover ..any way ifthat happenstheloan window opens in about a weeks time ...just believe ..the bluebirds are going up :ayatollah: :ayatollah:


I really rate Declan John and would have no problem with him stepping in at left back, but we all know Malky will play Lappin if Taylor gets injured and this worries me. I haven't seen enough of Coulson, but he fell asleep to let Macclesfield equalise and although it seems he has plenty of talent, I wouldn't be happy with having to throw him in at the deep end. Like you say, the loan market is there after tonight, but the only full backs available on loan will probably only be young kids from Premiership teams who are no better than Declan John. I just feel if we can't bring in 1 more full back to cover the only area of our squad that doesn't have adequate cover when we are 10 points clear at the top, then we are taking an unnecessary risk.


Taylor
McNaughton
Connelly
John
Coulson
Lappin

Mate, thats THREE players that can cover each position.

I'm sure your a lovely lad, but you need some barbiturates or opium in your life :D :ayatollah: :ayatollah:


In my opinion, only Taylor and Connolly are good enough for us. Lappin and McNaughton are the obvious back ups, but would you trust them to consistantly play well for our remaining 18 games? I would love to see Declan John being given a chance, but Malky has obviously signed Lappin as he doesn't want to throw John in at the deep end. Same with Coulson who is still a young lad and not ready yet.

So if Taylor and Connolly both get injured from now until the end of the season, would you think our remaining 4 full backs of Lappin, McNaughton, John and Coulson are good enough to step in and not let us down?


But what if the replacement full backs also get injured for the entire season and then the emergency loans we bring in to replace them also get injured? We're screwed!

We need a squad of at least 75 players, just to be certain that we can fulfil our fixtures, let alone remain 10 points clear!

FFS get a grip will you? :roll:


You have totally missed my point. I will put my point across to you as simply as possible so you actually understand what I'm saying.

I am not too concerned about us having injuries to the majority of areas to our team, as I believe we have at least a COUPLE of players ready to step in who will not weaken the team, be able to consistantly play well and not let us down.

The only area of our team that concerns me is the full backs because if one of them gets injured, I believe we have ZERO players capable of stepping in without letting us down, because I don't believe Lappin and McNaughton can produce a good level of performance for us consistantly and the regular inclusion of Lappin or McNaughton will make our full back position a weakness.

Re: We need one more full back I think

Fri Feb 01, 2013 5:40 pm

Tonteg Bluebird wrote:
glas wrote:McNaughton will not lets us down. He can cover both full back positions. I know he cannot pass, but as a defender he is very good. Quick and not afraid to get stuck in. Remember how good he was against Man Ure's £15 million winger?


McNaughton did play really well against Zaha, but he's also had his fair share of poor games this season. I have no problems with McNaughton stepping in for a game every now and again, but I still wouldn't trust McNaughton to consistantly play well for us for a few months without letting us down a couple of times and costing us points. This is what worries me.



It's about consistency and gelling as a back 5, but it may help him and Connolly if they know the other is ready to take their place, (as with all players).
It is possible that McNaughton is better against quicker full backs as they run at him, and he is aware of the danger. Maybe his problem is when he does not have a direct winger to mark and he loses concentration?

Re: We need one more full back I think

Fri Feb 01, 2013 5:51 pm

glas wrote:
Tonteg Bluebird wrote:
glas wrote:McNaughton will not lets us down. He can cover both full back positions. I know he cannot pass, but as a defender he is very good. Quick and not afraid to get stuck in. Remember how good he was against Man Ure's £15 million winger?


McNaughton did play really well against Zaha, but he's also had his fair share of poor games this season. I have no problems with McNaughton stepping in for a game every now and again, but I still wouldn't trust McNaughton to consistantly play well for us for a few months without letting us down a couple of times and costing us points. This is what worries me.



It's about consistency and gelling as a back 5, but it may help him and Connolly if they know the other is ready to take their place, (as with all players).
It is possible that McNaughton is better against quicker full backs as they run at him, and he is aware of the danger. Maybe his problem is when he does not have a direct winger to mark and he loses concentration?


Possibly. McNaughton's downfall for me has always been his distribution. I notice when we are winning and trying to see a game out in particular, we look a lot more comfortable with Connolly at right back than McNaughton; because McNaughton always panics in possession and gives the ball away which invites the pressure back onto us. I love Kev and his spirit, fight, courage etc. He runs his guts out, makes last ditch tackles, but usually the only reason he's had to make a last ditch tackle is because he's given the ball away in the first place to put us under pressure.

Re: We need one more full back I think

Wed Mar 13, 2013 5:39 pm

I didn't want to bring this back up, but with Connolly surely moving back into the centre Saturday, do you all now think we could have done with one more full back being brought in? When I did my initial post I felt we really needed a right back. I know McNaughton can cover both full back positions, but I don't think he's good enough. Connolly is a centre back, I really feel if we had a back 4 of Taylor, Connolly, Hudson and a good new right back, we would still have our 11 point cushion. We've had some bad luck with injuries, Hudson's in particular, but an extra right back would have allowed Connolly to move inside to step in for Hudson, and then we wouldn't have had to throw Nugent in at the deep end.

Re: We need one more full back I think

Wed Mar 13, 2013 5:57 pm

Spot on Tonteg, i've got a nasty feeling that by not addressing that problem its going to cost us big time. You could see last night after Hudson went off that the defence went to pieces. A young lad learning his profession and a full back who has seen better days are not going to jam up a defence to get us promotion. Somehow we got away with it last night, we won't in the remaining fixtures.