Does the fact that marshall heroics and alot of luck.....

concern anyone?
combined with very tight wins and alot of craig bellamy inspired performances, concern anyone what so eveR? that this seasons results may be disguising our team as stronger than it is.

all im trying to get it is without bellamy who is 34 next year an going back to the premier league, we aren't as strong a side he gives us so much in the form of confidence and flair going forward, creativity,
Also marshal has been outstanding and won us points, and we've rode our luck,
what that says to me, is we quite easily could be losing games conceeding alot more, and we are giving away more than we should be for a team top of the table, but a combination of luck, work rate and good goalkeeping has kept us in it.

what about next season? will that gap in quality show, when the most clinical finishers in the world are shooting at our goal week in week out.

anyone agree? slightly agree,
or am i talking rubbish

concern anyone?
combined with very tight wins and alot of craig bellamy inspired performances, concern anyone what so eveR? that this seasons results may be disguising our team as stronger than it is.

all im trying to get it is without bellamy who is 34 next year an going back to the premier league, we aren't as strong a side he gives us so much in the form of confidence and flair going forward, creativity,
Also marshal has been outstanding and won us points, and we've rode our luck,
what that says to me, is we quite easily could be losing games conceeding alot more, and we are giving away more than we should be for a team top of the table, but a combination of luck, work rate and good goalkeeping has kept us in it.

what about next season? will that gap in quality show, when the most clinical finishers in the world are shooting at our goal week in week out.

anyone agree? slightly agree,
or am i talking rubbish

talking rubbish


as f*cking usual

concern anyone?
combined with very tight wins and alot of craig bellamy inspired performances, concern anyone what so eveR? that this seasons results may be disguising our team as stronger than it is.

all im trying to get it is without bellamy who is 34 next year an going back to the premier league, we aren't as strong a side he gives us so much in the form of confidence and flair going forward, creativity,
Also marshal has been outstanding and won us points, and we've rode our luck,
what that says to me, is we quite easily could be losing games conceeding alot more, and we are giving away more than we should be for a team top of the table, but a combination of luck, work rate and good goalkeeping has kept us in it.

what about next season? will that gap in quality show, when the most clinical finishers in the world are shooting at our goal week in week out.

anyone agree? slightly agree,
or am i talking rubbish

talking rubbish


as f*cking usual

clearly an idiot then, need to pay more attention to the games

we are 7 points clear at the top, if we have problems, what does everyone else have?

So you ask if people agree or think your talking rubbish.....someone says your talking rubbish and you insult them

We are top scorers in the league and 7 points clear--


Are you saying that other team s have crap keepers whop dont make saves --Schmeical , Jason Steele. Speroni etc

25 game s--luck just cant be a big factor over that period --Face it we are hard to beat and can scoer goals --IE--Good Team--Not great but the best in the league

We are second top scorers in the league and 7 points clear--


Are you saying that other team s have crap keepers whop dont make saves --Schmeical , Jason Steele. Speroni etc

25 game s--luck just cant be a big factor over that period --Face it we are hard to beat and can scoer goals --IE--Good Team--Not great but the best in the league

good teams have good 'keepers and make their own luck

People will find a problem whatever happens.

What if we beat Peterbrough at home? What if we beat Charlton away? Maynard injured, Smith injured, Mutch injured... all a waste of money.

We are 7 points clear at the top of the table!

If we won those games, if those players didnt get injured it would be different. Yes, we might be better off, but we could also be worse off. All we know is that with everything, good and bad, that has happened this season has left us 7 points clear at the top.

Even if we're bad, as long as we're better than everyone else.

concern anyone?
combined with very tight wins and alot of craig bellamy inspired performances, concern anyone what so eveR? that this seasons results may be disguising our team as stronger than it is.

all im trying to get it is without bellamy who is 34 next year an going back to the premier league, we aren't as strong a side he gives us so much in the form of confidence and flair going forward, creativity,
Also marshal has been outstanding and won us points, and we've rode our luck,
what that says to me, is we quite easily could be losing games conceeding alot more, and we are giving away more than we should be for a team top of the table, but a combination of luck, work rate and good goalkeeping has kept us in it.

what about next season? will that gap in quality show, when the most clinical finishers in the world are shooting at our goal week in week out.

anyone agree? slightly agree,
or am i talking rubbish

In the last 8 games, only Hull have conceded less goals than Cardiff City. Our defensive
frailties were a problem away from home. Not any longer, that isnt all down to Marshall.

Do yourself a favour lad. Check your facts. Then nobody can tear you a new arse for talking
bollocks. It took me all of 30 seconds to find that info out

Yes we are 7 points clear!

but in this league anyone can beat anyone this is riduculous! people think we are so amazing on comparison to the rest the league because we ARE top

im not saying we arent doing well!

im just saying we've been lucky where as some sides in the championship have absolouted battered sides most weeks and been coming away with draws or losses and they could of easily had 10 more points

we could easily have had 45 points now and not looked unfortunate for those

I am not talking nonsense ffs im just trying to take a look in detail, and the reality is there are alot of stronger sides in depth such as boro, there are teams with 3,4 top quality strikers who just arent producing the goods

concern anyone?
combined with very tight wins and alot of craig bellamy inspired performances, concern anyone what so eveR? that this seasons results may be disguising our team as stronger than it is.

all im trying to get it is without bellamy who is 34 next year an going back to the premier league, we aren't as strong a side he gives us so much in the form of confidence and flair going forward, creativity,
Also marshal has been outstanding and won us points, and we've rode our luck,
what that says to me, is we quite easily could be losing games conceeding alot more, and we are giving away more than we should be for a team top of the table, but a combination of luck, work rate and good goalkeeping has kept us in it.

what about next season? will that gap in quality show, when the most clinical finishers in the world are shooting at our goal week in week out.

anyone agree? slightly agree,
or am i talking rubbish

Well I don't think you are talking rubbish.

Personally I put it down to the league being very weak this season. You look the teams that have come down. Give me oneseasn when relegated teams have achieved so little. Most seasons at least 2 of the demoted teams have been up there challenging. Then take some of the teams that everyone expected to put in a challenge like Nottingham Forest, Birmingham and Blackpool. All 3 have diintegrated in front of our own eyes. Just to confirm everything who would have thught Hull, Millwall, Watford and Crystal Palace to be up there. Yep its definately a weak league but even so we still need to do enough to win it.

I also believe we have a squad that is doing exactly that, enough to win. We have had some resounding wins like Blackpool 3-0, Blackburn 4-1 and Burnley 4-0 but mostly we have just done enough to win as lately has shown against Leicester, Crystal Palace, Millwall and Birmingham. Summing up we have not be immemse with our performances but seem to have a better work rate than anyone. This workrate is the reason we have won our comfortable games by wearing the other teams down. Also I would say its the reason we have edged the rest of the games. We are not a delight to watch but a workhorse that is doing enough ATM.

you could of course say, with relegated teams coming down and doing poorly, that the league is a lot stronger than it was.

Yes we are 7 points clear!

but in this league anyone can beat anyone this is riduculous! people think we are so amazing on comparison to the rest the league because we ARE top

im not saying we arent doing well!

im just saying we've been lucky where as some sides in the championship have absolouted battered sides most weeks and been coming away with draws or losses and they could of easily had 10 more points

we could easily have had 45 points now and not looked unfortunate for those

I am not talking nonsense ffs im just trying to take a look in detail, and the reality is there are alot of stronger sides in depth such as boro, there are teams with 3,4 top quality strikers who just arent producing the goods

BUT YOUR NOT TRYING TO TAKE A LOOK IN DETAIL ARE YOU!!!!!

Check your facts feller. Those facts are: Cardiff City had a poor record away from home and were
conceding far too many goals. That was two months ago. Now we have a solid defence. Second best
on form in the division. We are also second best on goals scored. That is promotion form.

There is a strong counter argument to make regarding the original post.

All good teams are constructed around a strong spine of players, ie, the Goalkeeper, a strong central defender, an influentual midfielder and a quality striker.

The reason we are winning games is that we have strong players in all those positions, plus others that will work hard for the team and shine for periods throughout the season, with quality squad players to fill gaps and rotate positions.

What you are suggesting, is we are lucky that Marshall, Huds, Whitts and Bellamy (admittedly not an out and out striker, but as valuable never the less) are doing what we pay them for, so you can't really suggest that we are lucky just because our key players are playing well.

I would suggest that the reality is, that we have actually been very unlucky, because key players have been injured throughout the season (including a 20+ goal striker) and that a large number of our squad have not had the luxury of playing together for a whole season and are still developing as a team.

If we had been lucky with injuries and had more time for the players to gel, we would be 15 points clear and probably promoted by the end of March.

You can spin it how you like, but you don't get to the top of the Championship in january by being lucky.

The better you are, the more luck you have. I always thought Steve Davis was lucky that other players never hit their best form against him. I've come to realise, that this was because most of his opponents (especially in finals) were beaten before they started because they never believed in themselves. I think we should be looked at in the same context. Teams are not expecting to beat us anymore and they lack the self belief during games to win.

Would Man Utd have won so many titles in the 90's without Schmiecal? would Barcelona be as good without Messi? All winning teams needs a couple of star players to make the others around them play better and believe in themselves.

Christ I've never heard of a team with so much luck.

Lot of lucky goals all spread all over the lucky team.

Plenty if lucky teams. I guess Tan must have been right about red all this luck going about

We have some of the worst fans ever.

We lose a game sack the manager he's a disgrace.

We win a game we are lucky.

Stop being a bunch of negative assholes