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' SCOTTISH FOOTBALL CHANGES ' NOT GOOD or GOOD ?

Tue Jan 08, 2013 4:16 pm

The Scottish fa have voted to change there league structure from next year (as long as members agree) to two leagues of 12 teams and one of 18 Rangers wont be happy as that means even if they win the league this year they will remain in the bottom division lol .

If this is succesfull financially could the same thing happen in England ?

Would it be better for a team like us if it did ? i know the idea has been banded about before about splitting the premier league but never got past discussion stages .

If it happened now it would put us in division 2 our league would look like this -
cardiff , hull , middleborough , leicester , qpr , wigan , reading , southampton , villa , newcastle , sunderland and fulham .


The top 12 in the prem would go into division 1 including swansea :twisted: and the rest of the champ teams would be divided into other leagues . Personally i would prefer it to be honest and would pretty much guarantee sell outs most weeks at the ccs .The only problem is you have to play each team 4 times or split the divisions into 3 groups of 8 like scotland will do and have play off situations . If you make the big league then week in week out is a massive fixture its a huge decision for scotland to make will be interesting to see how it works out .
Any thoughts ? :) i Would be for it tbh

Re: ' SCOTTISH FOOTBALL CHANGES '

Tue Jan 08, 2013 4:24 pm

No as it would mean either shorter league seasons or playing the teams in our league more than twice per season. The English structure is a very good one in my opinion and there is no need for any change at all.

It would also only really benefit the top 12 clubs in the highest division in terms of t.v money, so would make the gap between the bigger and smaller clubs even larger.

Re: ' SCOTTISH FOOTBALL CHANGES '

Tue Jan 08, 2013 4:38 pm

bluedragons wrote:No as it would mean either shorter league seasons or playing the teams in our league more than twice per season. The English structure is a very good one in my opinion and there is no need for any change at all.

It would also only really benefit the top 12 clubs in the highest division in terms of t.v money, so would make the gap between the bigger and smaller clubs even larger.



Agree with you mate.

Just make the rich clubs richer, and too boring playing the same teams 4 times a season.
The teams would also get so used to each other, their tactics could neutralise each other and make for boring games.

The strength in depth of having 4 proper leagues (could argue 5) makes for a better and stronger league overall, more interest and better opportunity for young players.

Re: ' SCOTTISH FOOTBALL CHANGES '

Tue Jan 08, 2013 4:44 pm

glas wrote:
bluedragons wrote:No as it would mean either shorter league seasons or playing the teams in our league more than twice per season. The English structure is a very good one in my opinion and there is no need for any change at all.

It would also only really benefit the top 12 clubs in the highest division in terms of t.v money, so would make the gap between the bigger and smaller clubs even larger.



Agree with you mate.

Just make the rich clubs richer, and too boring playing the same teams 4 times a season.
The teams would also get so used to each other, their tactics could neutralise each other and make for boring games.

The strength in depth of having 4 proper leagues (could argue 5) makes for a better and stronger league overall, more interest and better opportunity for young players.


Added to that it would make it much harder for clubs to reach the top flight as there would probably only be 2 teams relegated and promoted per season if the league was only made up of 12 clubs.

Re: ' SCOTTISH FOOTBALL CHANGES ' NOT GOOD or GOOD ?

Tue Jan 08, 2013 4:49 pm

It's just another shambolic setup for this country.

Re: ' SCOTTISH FOOTBALL CHANGES ' NOT GOOD or GOOD ?

Tue Jan 08, 2013 4:53 pm

PtB wrote:It's just another shambolic setup for this country.


I think in Scotland it makes sense to have 2 leagues. They only have around 10 clubs playing in each league unlike in England where there are 24 in the each football league division and 20 in the Premier League. It then gives the lower clubs in Scotland a greater chance of playing against the Old Firm and generating some more income.

Re: ' SCOTTISH FOOTBALL CHANGES ' NOT GOOD or GOOD ?

Tue Jan 08, 2013 4:54 pm

However the posibillity of a pyramid system coming into a play for ambitous non league clubs is a big bonus.

Re: ' SCOTTISH FOOTBALL CHANGES ' NOT GOOD or GOOD ?

Tue Jan 08, 2013 6:28 pm

I agree with the points that it will make rich clubs richer but if and when teams like us do make that top division it would pretty much guarantee financial security for years to come . If the money was fairly distributed between the divisions it would make for interesting games all year round . Personally i would rather see city playing Newcastle , Villa and Fulham 4 times a year than going to places like Peterborough , Scunthorpe and Barnsley . The possibility of teams like Brighton Watford and Derby getting back up to the big leagues would also increase , also further down teams like Crawley ,Shrewsbury and the like getting to go to places like Leicester ,Birmingham and Leeds . It can only be good for smaller team as far as i can see as they pretty much have no chance at the moment .
Its one of those things that will either be a huge success or a total flop . Also would open up the possibilities of new improved cup competitions between different leagues and or improving the fa cup and carling cups by bringing bigger teams in earlier without the need to have the BIG teams worrying about there champions league commitments !

Re: ' SCOTTISH FOOTBALL CHANGES ' NOT GOOD or GOOD ?

Tue Jan 08, 2013 10:40 pm

Scottish Football League chief executive David Longmuir today expressed confidence that a planned merger with the Scottish Premier League would be accepted by clubs in his organisation.

But Rangers hit out at plans for a 12-12-18 structure in an article posted on the club's official website.

The statement read: "This abomination will now be pulled and stretched by selected members of the SPL and SFL in a desperate attempt to make it more presentable.

"It's ridiculous, especially when you remember the two 12s will fragment into three eights."

The article also accused those running Scottish football of "sheer hypocrisy" by apparently taking fans' views into account when Rangers chief executive Charles Green's newco application was rejected by SPL clubs, but ignoring calls for a larger top division.

Re: ' SCOTTISH FOOTBALL CHANGES ' NOT GOOD or GOOD ?

Wed Jan 09, 2013 11:01 am

The two 12s splitting into three 8s is an interesting idea, I'd be interested to see how it works out.

Not sure how the 18 really fits into it though. And tbh I can't see many teams getting promoted in the 12s system as teams from the lower division that qualify for the middle 8 won't have anywhere near the top division's four teams.

Will make m,anaging in Scotland worthwhile in FM14 though :lol:

Re: ' SCOTTISH FOOTBALL CHANGES ' NOT GOOD or GOOD ?

Wed Jan 09, 2013 11:09 am

The 92 league system is the best in the world and I would be hugely against any changes to it. Our non league system is perfect also, slowly regionalising it down to county level rather than doing it straight away which is the case in many European countries. Any team in the system can go from the very bottom to the Premiership which is why I have never liked the closed door policy Scotland pursues with it's clubs.

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