Can i just say regarding Maynard...

The injury Nicky Maynard suffered, cruciate ligament, is one of the most dangerous injuries you can get, it can end careers if not dealt with properly, i know because i've done the injury myself. If you try and come back too early, it will just snap again.

The stage where you're back running again is A LOT earlier than the stage where you're back playing competitive sports again (twisting and turning), about 3/4 months before to be precise.

As much as i'd love to see Maynard back this season, i hope he isn't because i think it would be too soon. Too big a risk. I'm sure the club's medical staff know what they're doing and will make the right decision.

All i'm saying is, just don't get your hopes up that's all.

He suffered the injury during mid-October, six months is ALWAYS the minimum time out for this type of injury, that would mean a return in mid-April and even that could be too soon in my opinion!

9 months is the more usual time out for this kind of injury.

I'm sure the medical staff know what they are doing.

i agree with what you're saying and yes he should not be rushed back, but i'm pretty sure the medics at the club will know when it is right to bring him back without the injury recurring... it weren't to long ago that Malky put alot of work into developing a class A medical team to deal with injuries?

I'm sure the medical staff know what they are doing.

Exactly what i said in my post.

My point is, no matter what we're being told, i don't think people should get their hopes up because i don't think the medical staff will risk him playing again until atleast mid-April at the earliest.

It's a fact that 6 months is ALWAYS the minimum time to recover from this, not my opinion, just saying.

Trust, having done it myself, this is not an injury anybody would want to mess with.

i agree with what you're saying and yes he should not be rushed back, but i'm pretty sure the medics at the club will know when it is right to bring him back without the injury recurring... it weren't to long ago that Malky put alot of work into developing a class A medical team to deal with injuries?

True, but you can have the best medical staff in the world and they wouldn't be able to heal this injury quicker than 6 months. It's impossible. And that would mean mid-April earliest, that's all i'm saying.

As you say, i'm sure they know what they're doing and will leave his comeback until next season. I would put a lot of money on it. It would be risking his career otherwise.

As I said, I'm sure the medical staff know what they are doing as they are well qualified and experienced.

No disrespect, but suffering the injury doesn't make you as qualified as them.

If they do let him return, it will because he's fully recovered - they would never let him otherwise.

Last edited by Barry Chuckle on Mon Jan 07, 2013 8:31 pm, edited 1 time in total.

i agree with what you're saying and yes he should not be rushed back, but i'm pretty sure the medics at the club will know when it is right to bring him back without the injury recurring... it weren't to long ago that Malky put alot of work into developing a class A medical team to deal with injuries?

True, but you can have the best medical staff in the world and they wouldn't be able to heal this injury quicker than 6 months. It's impossible. And that would mean mid-April earliest, that's all i'm saying.

As you say, i'm sure they know what they're doing and will leave his comeback until next season. I would put a lot of money on it. It would be risking his career otherwise.

if they don't feel 100% certain that he'll be fine then i doubt they'll risk him! if they think he's 100% to start playing again then lets just trust them!

As I said, I'm sure the medical staff know what they are doing as they are well qualified and experienced.

No disrespect, but suffering the injury doesn't make you as qualified as them.

If they do let him return, it will because he's funny recovered - they would never let him otherwise.

Suffering the injury doesnt make me as qualified youre right, but i do know its limitations.

I'm not saying they shouldn't let him back earlier than 6 months, i'm saying they won't, and people shouldn't get their hopes up.

As I said, I'm sure the medical staff know what they are doing as they are well qualified and experienced.

No disrespect, but suffering the injury doesn't make you as qualified as them.

If they do let him return, it will because he's funny recovered - they would never let him otherwise.

Suffering the injury doesnt make me as qualified youre right, but i do know its limitations.

I'm not saying they shouldn't let him back earlier than 6 months, i'm saying they won't, and people shouldn't get their hopes up.

It gives you limited knowledge of your injury. The medical staff have a lot more information than you or I on his condition and will advice the club accordingly.

i agree with what you're saying and yes he should not be rushed back, but i'm pretty sure the medics at the club will know when it is right to bring him back without the injury recurring... it weren't to long ago that Malky put alot of work into developing a class A medical team to deal with injuries?

True, but you can have the best medical staff in the world and they wouldn't be able to heal this injury quicker than 6 months. It's impossible. And that would mean mid-April earliest, that's all i'm saying.

As you say, i'm sure they know what they're doing and will leave his comeback until next season. I would put a lot of money on it. It would be risking his career otherwise.

if they don't feel 100% certain that he'll be fine then i doubt they'll risk him! if they think he's 100% to start playing again then lets just trust them!

Once more, i havent said once the medical staff don't know what they're doing, i'm saying that because THEY DO know what theyre doing, they won't let him return before 6 months. So if anybody has been told that he could be back before mid-April then they've been mis-informed, because this 100% WILL NOT happen.

Only time will show that this is the case.

As I said, I'm sure the medical staff know what they are doing as they are well qualified and experienced.

No disrespect, but suffering the injury doesn't make you as qualified as them.

If they do let him return, it will because he's funny recovered - they would never let him otherwise.

Suffering the injury doesnt make me as qualified youre right, but i do know its limitations.

I'm not saying they shouldn't let him back earlier than 6 months, i'm saying they won't, and people shouldn't get their hopes up.

It gives you limited knowledge of your injury. The medical staff have a lot more information than you or I on his condition and will advice the club accordingly.

I agree with you, stop trying to argue about it.

I'm saying that their knowledge will mean that NOBODY can come back from this injury quicker than 6 months, Maynard isn't super human, it's physically impossible, you dont have to be an expert to know that much, the info is freely available.

It's been fairly common knowledge for ages that he would be back March it's been said on here for months, fingers crossed he is

i agree with what you're saying and yes he should not be rushed back, but i'm pretty sure the medics at the club will know when it is right to bring him back without the injury recurring... it weren't to long ago that Malky put alot of work into developing a class A medical team to deal with injuries?

True, but you can have the best medical staff in the world and they wouldn't be able to heal this injury quicker than 6 months. It's impossible. And that would mean mid-April earliest, that's all i'm saying.

As you say, i'm sure they know what they're doing and will leave his comeback until next season. I would put a lot of money on it. It would be risking his career otherwise.

if they don't feel 100% certain that he'll be fine then i doubt they'll risk him! if they think he's 100% to start playing again then lets just trust them!

Once more, i havent said once the medical staff don't know what they're doing, i'm saying that because THEY DO know what theyre doing, they won't let him return before 6 months. So if anybody has been told that he could be back before mid-April then they've been mis-informed, because this 100% WILL NOT happen.

Only time will show that this is the case.

I totally agree with you Scott

As I said, I'm sure the medical staff know what they are doing as they are well qualified and experienced.

No disrespect, but suffering the injury doesn't make you as qualified as them.

If they do let him return, it will because he's funny recovered - they would never let him otherwise.

Suffering the injury doesnt make me as qualified youre right, but i do know its limitations.

I'm not saying they shouldn't let him back earlier than 6 months, i'm saying they won't, and people shouldn't get their hopes up.

It gives you limited knowledge of your injury. The medical staff have a lot more information than you or I on his condition and will advice the club accordingly.

I agree with you, stop trying to argue about it.

I'm saying that their knowledge will mean that NOBODY can come back from this injury quicker than 6 months, Maynard isn't super human, it's physically impossible, you dont have to be an expert to know that much, the info is freely available.

I'm not, just giving my opinion on it.

he is starting training soon, so is obviously on the recovery trail.

It's been fairly common knowledge for ages that he would be back March it's been said on here for months, fingers crossed he is

That would mean he's recovered in 5 months, so not gonna happen sadly.

Don't take my word for it, look up ANY information on the net regarding ACL injuries, a 5 month return is impossible to be successful.

As I said, I'm sure the medical staff know what they are doing as they are well qualified and experienced.

No disrespect, but suffering the injury doesn't make you as qualified as them.

If they do let him return, it will because he's funny recovered - they would never let him otherwise.

Suffering the injury doesnt make me as qualified youre right, but i do know its limitations.

I'm not saying they shouldn't let him back earlier than 6 months, i'm saying they won't, and people shouldn't get their hopes up.

It gives you limited knowledge of your injury. The medical staff have a lot more information than you or I on his condition and will advice the club accordingly.

I agree with you, stop trying to argue about it.

I'm saying that their knowledge will mean that NOBODY can come back from this injury quicker than 6 months, Maynard isn't super human, it's physically impossible, you dont have to be an expert to know that much, the info is freely available.

I'm not, just giving my opinion on it.

he is starting training soon, so is obviously on the recovery trail.

Training meaning running etc. Which is where everyone who does this injury is at, at this stage.

Twisting/turning and competitive sport is a completely different thing, that comes 3/4 months AFTER someone starts running.

As i said, don't take my word for it, look up expert's opinions online.

6 months so back in march then!

It's been fairly common knowledge for ages that he would be back March it's been said on here for months, fingers crossed he is

That would mean he's recovered in 5 months, so not gonna happen sadly.

Don't take my word for it, look up ANY information on the net regarding ACL injuries, a 5 month return is impossible to be successful.

I cant link it yet but an american footballer came back after 4 months

i agree with what you're saying and yes he should not be rushed back, but i'm pretty sure the medics at the club will know when it is right to bring him back without the injury recurring... it weren't to long ago that Malky put alot of work into developing a class A medical team to deal with injuries?

True, but you can have the best medical staff in the world and they wouldn't be able to heal this injury quicker than 6 months. It's impossible. And that would mean mid-April earliest, that's all i'm saying.

As you say, i'm sure they know what they're doing and will leave his comeback until next season. I would put a lot of money on it. It would be risking his career otherwise.

if they don't feel 100% certain that he'll be fine then i doubt they'll risk him! if they think he's 100% to start playing again then lets just trust them!

Once more, i havent said once the medical staff don't know what they're doing, i'm saying that because THEY DO know what theyre doing, they won't let him return before 6 months. So if anybody has been told that he could be back before mid-April then they've been mis-informed, because this 100% WILL NOT happen.

Only time will show that this is the case.

I totally agree with you Scott

Cheers mate.

If anyone wanted to look up other experts opinions on the net, they will see for themselves what i'm trying to say. Just didn't want people to get their hopes up that's all.

It's been fairly common knowledge for ages that he would be back March it's been said on here for months, fingers crossed he is

That would mean he's recovered in 5 months, so not gonna happen sadly.

Don't take my word for it, look up ANY information on the net regarding ACL injuries, a 5 month return is impossible to be successful.

I cant link it yet but an american footballer came back after 4 months

Indeed he did, and then it went again and ended up even worse!

but still scott.... back in march



i love how your trying to be the knowelgable one here, we can all read

6 months so back in march then!

Sorry the injury was September, not October, you're right. So 6 months would mean mid March/start of April.

That's an absolute minimum, with a large risk. 9 months would mean next season, with far less risk.

Roberto Baggio famously back playing a full match within 90 days. Not saying it will be the same for Maynard just challenging the absolute certainty when it comes to any kind of injury.

everyone is different, if he has the ok to train now i reckon he will be playing development games beginging of march of no complications

Roberto Baggio famously back playing a full match within 90 days. Not saying it will be the same for Maynard just challenging the absolute certainty when it comes to any kind of injury.

You're right, although i'm sure that was only a partial tear, rather than a rupture, which is slightly less serious.

everyone is different, if he has the ok to train now i reckon he will be playing development games beginging of march of no complications

Ok then, believe that if you want.

Roberto Baggio famously back playing a full match within 90 days. Not saying it will be the same for Maynard just challenging the absolute certainty when it comes to any kind of injury.

You're right, although i'm sure that was only a partial tear, rather than a rupture, which is slightly less serious.

i believe at the time i read that maynards wasnt a rupture either, though it was a while ago so not sure where i saw that

everyone is different, if he has the ok to train now i reckon he will be playing development games beginging of march of no complications

Ok then, believe that if you want.

lol please stop talking about it like you are the chronicle!!


we pay medical staff a lot of money to make these decisions!

everyone is different, if he has the ok to train now i reckon he will be playing development games beginging of march of no complications

Ok then, believe that if you want.

lol please stop talking about it like you are the chronicle!!


we pay medical staff a lot of money to make these decisions!

Exactly, the medical staff make these decisions, and they will decide that he will come back later than early March.

If you want to believe otherwise then fair enough, makes no difference to me, just wait and see.

Roberto Baggio famously back playing a full match within 90 days. Not saying it will be the same for Maynard just challenging the absolute certainty when it comes to any kind of injury.

You're right, although i'm sure that was only a partial tear, rather than a rupture, which is slightly less serious.

It was a rupture, whilst I have only ever seen Maynard's reported as a 'tear'. Apart from the injury the big difference is the age of the player. Baggio was 35 and mad keen to make the World Cup finals - totally different attitude to risk when compared to Maynard with a large part of this career ahead of him.