Loopy Welsh Government =Fooking idiots

For those that want total Welsh independence. The Welsh Assembly is to bring in a law that can prosecute Dog owners who's Dogs attack Burglars. They want to clamp down on dangerous Dogs that attack People
This is what you get when a f*cking ultra left wing idiots get in charge. A Dog is defending its home and if it kills a Burglar then he should get a f*cking massive bone. Politicians are so unattached from the real world they make me sick.

Burglars have rights! Seems like more than the victum these days!

Have you actually looked into what is being proposed? Or are you just listening to the media who love a scare story?

Have you actually looked into what is being proposed? Or are you just listening to the media who love a scare story?

Just heard it on the news. Tell us more if you know more.

Ridiculous isn't it. Pity they don't concentrate their efforts on the burglars.

Its probably less hassle then to either club a thieving fuckwit around the head with a 5 iron?

Have you actually looked into what is being proposed? Or are you just listening to the media who love a scare story?

Just heard it on the news. Tell us more if you know more.

The current dangerous dogs law just cover public land. All they want to do is extend it to cover private property.
It would simply make having a "dangerously out of control dog" in your house illegal.
This isn't really about burglars or anything, it is about making sure dogs that are owned in this country are safe and are not going to go crazy and injury people in the house for no reason.

Really, the dangerous dogs act needs serious looking at anyway, because IMO banning breeds isn't the right way to do it. Any dog can be dangerous if it is not trained and is treated poorly.

Have you actually looked into what is being proposed? Or are you just listening to the media who love a scare story?

Just heard it on the news. Tell us more if you know more.

The current dangerous dogs law just cover public land. All they want to do is extend it to cover private property.
It would simply make having a "dangerously out of control dog" in your house illegal.
This isn't really about burglars or anything, it is about making sure dogs that are owned in this country are safe and are not going to go crazy and injury people in the house for no reason.

Really, the dangerous dogs act needs serious looking at anyway, because IMO banning breeds isn't the right way to do it. Any dog can be dangerous if it is not trained and is treated poorly.

Well all it said on the news was for the protection of Burglars. Those scum should have no protection at all

For those that want total Welsh independence. The Welsh Assembly is to bring in a law that can prosecute Dog owners who's Dogs attack Burglars. They want to clamp down on dangerous Dogs that attack People
This is what you get when a f*cking ultra left wing idiots get in charge. A Dog is defending its home and if it kills a Burglar then he should get a f*cking massive bone. Politicians are so unattached from the real world they make me sick.

Oh for fucks sake mate. This is symptomatic of politics across Britain, not just Wales.
Wishy-washy politically correct nincompoops. Its got nowt to do with Independent
Wales.

What about Free Prescriptions? England dont get them.

Welsh Independence, to an extent, WILL happen, irrespective of what
the people of Wales want. Because we have no natural resources left
and Wales is a drain on Londons resources.

The good old English Establishment that so many want to stick with
have already set the ball rolling to f**k Wales off. Cos they don't want
us.

Believe!

For those that want total Welsh independence. The Welsh Assembly is to bring in a law that can prosecute Dog owners who's Dogs attack Burglars. They want to clamp down on dangerous Dogs that attack People
This is what you get when a f*cking ultra left wing idiots get in charge. A Dog is defending its home and if it kills a Burglar then he should get a f*cking massive bone. Politicians are so unattached from the real world they make me sick.

Oh for fucks sake mate. This is symptomatic of politics across Britain, not just Wales.
Wishy-washy politically correct nincompoops. Its got nowt to do with Independent
Wales.

What about Free Prescriptions? England dont get them.

Welsh Independence, to an extent, WILL happen, irrespective of what
the people of Wales want. Because we have no natural resources left
and Wales is a drain on Londons resources.

The good old English Establishment that so many want to stick with
have already set the ball rolling to f**k Wales off. Cos they don't want
us.

Believe!

As far as i know England aint bringing in this law !!
Its a Welsh Government one. So at the moment i stand by my post Dave.

For those that want total Welsh independence. The Welsh Assembly is to bring in a law that can prosecute Dog owners who's Dogs attack Burglars. They want to clamp down on dangerous Dogs that attack People
This is what you get when a f*cking ultra left wing idiots get in charge. A Dog is defending its home and if it kills a Burglar then he should get a f*cking massive bone. Politicians are so unattached from the real world they make me sick.

Oh for fucks sake mate. This is symptomatic of politics across Britain, not just Wales.
Wishy-washy politically correct nincompoops. Its got nowt to do with Independent
Wales.

What about Free Prescriptions? England dont get them.

Welsh Independence, to an extent, WILL happen, irrespective of what
the people of Wales want. Because we have no natural resources left
and Wales is a drain on Londons resources.

The good old English Establishment that so many want to stick with
have already set the ball rolling to f**k Wales off. Cos they don't want
us.

Believe!

As far as i know England aint bringing in this law !!
Its a Welsh Government one. So at the moment i stand by my post Dave.

Yeh but how many similar and stupid laws are being brought in over the border that
we just havent heard about. Just the laws on immigration over there are enough to
want to get the f**k out

Fooking hate Politicians Dave

I love political debates on here when people really don't know all they make out to know. I will openly admit I know f**k all about politics so will refrain from getting involved and making myself look like a clueless idiot.

I love political debates on here when people really don't know all they make out to know. I will openly admit I know f**k all about politics so will refrain from getting involved and making myself look like a clueless idiot.

As i said just repeating what they said on the News

Welsh Assembley is looking to change ruling to include dangerous dogs on private property. This would be to provide protection for postmen or paperboys for example.

The Kennel Club has brought up the the idea that people could be prosecuted if their dog attacked a bugular. The WA responded by saying this was just a proposal and that this issue would be part of the problem with the idea so they welcome consulation. (bbc Wales news)

Just brought up by the BBC and some media.

Fair reporting or anti welsh gov bias? I aint picking at that thread anymore!

If my dog can't kill them then I'll just put a knife in them myself if they come into my home. Simple solution and then I'll email Cameron directly as soon as I done it to get the whole story put in the papers of the actual events and get off on it. Not a problem. If they want to waste law abiding citizens time with these moronic laws/rules then I will waste their time by dragging the whole thing out through the courts. Simple.

I will then ask Cameron to refer to: http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/politic ... glars.html

Welsh Assembley is looking to change ruling to include dangerous dogs on private property. This would be to provide protection for postmen or paperboys for example.

The Kennel Club has brought up the the idea that people could be prosecuted if their dog attacked a bugular. The WA responded by saying this was just a proposal and that this issue would be part of the problem with the idea so they welcome consulation. (bbc Wales news)

Just brought up by the BBC and some media.

Fair reporting or anti welsh gov bias? I aint picking at that thread anymore!

Ah right you can see how this has been twisted.

So its the Kennel Club lobbyists?

I'm pretty sure Postmen or Council Workmen wont complain about the new law

Fooking hate Politicians Dave

So do I.

Welsh Nationalist/Labour/Tory/Libdem

All lying fuckers who think they have earned the right to rule

Welsh Assembley is looking to change ruling to include dangerous dogs on private property. This would be to provide protection for postmen or paperboys for example.

The Kennel Club has brought up the the idea that people could be prosecuted if their dog attacked a bugular. The WA responded by saying this was just a proposal and that this issue would be part of the problem with the idea so they welcome consulation. (bbc Wales news)

Just brought up by the BBC and some media.

Fair reporting or anti welsh gov bias? I aint picking at that thread anymore!

So its the Kennel Club lobbyists?

Seriously thats what it says on BBC. Slow news day!

Welsh Assembley is looking to change ruling to include dangerous dogs on private property. This would be to provide protection for postmen or paperboys for example.

The Kennel Club has brought up the the idea that people could be prosecuted if their dog attacked a bugular. The WA responded by saying this was just a proposal and that this issue would be part of the problem with the idea so they welcome consulation. (bbc Wales news)

Just brought up by the BBC and some media.

Fair reporting or anti welsh gov bias? I aint picking at that thread anymore!

So its the Kennel Club lobbyists?

Seriously thats what it says on BBC. Slow news day!

Its all about agendas. Pro this anti that. blah blah f*cking blah

I do think that the WAG are pushing more and more to the left with bringing in rubbish new laws simply because of the anti colation agenda.

Give them tax rasing powers and we be fucked IMO. Not one of them has ever run a business yet they seem to think that they know whats wrong with the Welsh Ecomony!!!!

I do think that the WAG are pushing more and more to the left with bringing in rubbish new laws simply because of the anti colation agenda.

Give them tax rasing powers and we be fucked IMO. Not one of them has ever run a business yet they seem to think that they know whats wrong with the Welsh Ecomony!!!!

Not one of them has ever run a business?

There are Farmers, business managers, Firemen, Assembly line workers, Surveyors
Mining engineers... a rich mix indeed. Many of whom 'ran' businesses.

It means f**k all. YOU allegedly run your own business. Who would believe a word
you say?

Politicians in Britain (not just Wales) are self-serving egotistic tossers whose only
real agenda is self-serving

I do think that the WAG are pushing more and more to the left with bringing in rubbish new laws simply because of the anti colation agenda.

Give them tax rasing powers and we be fucked IMO. Not one of them has ever run a business yet they seem to think that they know whats wrong with the Welsh Ecomony!!!!

Not one of them has ever run a business?

There are Farmers, business managers, Firemen, Assembly line workers, Surveyors
Mining engineers... a rich mix indeed. Many of whom 'ran' businesses.

It means f**k all. YOU allegedly run your own business. Who would believe a word
you say?

Politicians in Britain (not just Wales) are self-serving egotistic tossers whose only
real agenda is self-serving

Name them in the leading Labour group who have actually run a business and by that I don't mean an Assembly line worker, most Labour come through the union system so their anti-business agenda is already there.

I do think that the WAG are pushing more and more to the left with bringing in rubbish new laws simply because of the anti colation agenda.

Give them tax rasing powers and we be fucked IMO. Not one of them has ever run a business yet they seem to think that they know whats wrong with the Welsh Ecomony!!!!

Not one of them has ever run a business?

There are Farmers, business managers, Firemen, Assembly line workers, Surveyors
Mining engineers... a rich mix indeed. Many of whom 'ran' businesses.

It means f**k all. YOU allegedly run your own business. Who would believe a word
you say?

Politicians in Britain (not just Wales) are self-serving egotistic tossers whose only
real agenda is self-serving

Name them in the leading Labour group who have actually run a business and by that I don't mean an Assembly line worker, most Labour come through the union system so their anti-business agenda is already there.

Oh your shifting the goalposts now? Yet again you DONT research your claims.
I'm guessing you just checked the 'labour' ones. There are plenty of people in
the Welsh Assembly Government with 'business experience'

FFS I'm self-employed, So I can claim to run my own business.

The Tories in London have a good smattering of 'business-people'

Yet they cannot even be trusted to put an expense form in without lying through
their teeth and stealing tens of thousands from the taxpayer.

Politicians in this country are dishonest cunts

But of course you just focus on the Welsh Assembly ones.

Righto

I do think that the WAG are pushing more and more to the left with bringing in rubbish new laws simply because of the anti colation agenda.

Give them tax rasing powers and we be fucked IMO. Not one of them has ever run a business yet they seem to think that they know whats wrong with the Welsh Ecomony!!!!

Not one of them has ever run a business?

There are Farmers, business managers, Firemen, Assembly line workers, Surveyors
Mining engineers... a rich mix indeed. Many of whom 'ran' businesses.

It means f**k all. YOU allegedly run your own business. Who would believe a word
you say?

Politicians in Britain (not just Wales) are self-serving egotistic tossers whose only
real agenda is self-serving

Name them in the leading Labour group who have actually run a business and by that I don't mean an Assembly line worker, most Labour come through the union system so their anti-business agenda is already there.

Oh your shifting the goalposts now? Yet again you DONT research your claims.
I'm guessing you just checked the 'labour' ones. There are plenty of people in
the Welsh Assembly Government with 'business experience'

FFS I'm self-employed, So I can claim to run my own business.

The Tories in London have a good smattering of 'business-people'

Yet they cannot even be trusted to put an expense form in without lying through
their teeth and stealing tens of thousands from the taxpayer.

Politicians in this country are dishonest cunts

But of course you just focus on the Welsh Assembly ones.

Righto

I haven't shifted no goalposts because the original post was talking about the WAG and Ive always stated the Politicans at the WAG.

It was a fact that more Labour than anyone else at Westminister done dodgy expenses but once again the original poster is on about WAG so I don't know why you mentioned this.

You stated that Politicians are dishonest cunts yet the only proof you have would be the expenses issue and the vast majoirty of politicans didn't have any issues with expenses. However its the people who are also to blame and alear example of that would be those Politicans who got caught out on expenses getting voted back in at the last election!!! Hazel Blears being the prime example.

You also mention that I stated the Labour ones in the WAG,Yes I did because Labour are in total control in the WAG and its their decisions which are up for debate.

I knew this would happen hence why I voted against devolution. Bunch of second rate politicians whom we don't need. Either every REGION of the UK gets an assembly or none at all. What makes us so different to regions of England? We as a nation have such an attitude of self entitlement.

I do think that the WAG are pushing more and more to the left with bringing in rubbish new laws simply because of the anti colation agenda.

Give them tax rasing powers and we be fucked IMO. Not one of them has ever run a business yet they seem to think that they know whats wrong with the Welsh Ecomony!!!!

Says the bloke who sold his business and didn't get paid for it. Then spent months chasing them in court whilst constantly asking for advice of the regulars on a football / lads message board.

You're a funny fucker, fair play.

I knew this would happen hence why I voted against devolution. Bunch of second rate politicians whom we don't need. Either every REGION of the UK gets an assembly or none at all. What makes us so different to regions of England? We as a nation have such an attitude of self entitlement.

I think everyone with some level of political sense knew they would happen. The public sector in Wales has ballooned since the introduction of the WAG and we are all paying for it by them slicing off the money from either Westminister or Europe before its past down to the local councils.

I do think that the WAG are pushing more and more to the left with bringing in rubbish new laws simply because of the anti colation agenda.

Give them tax rasing powers and we be fucked IMO. Not one of them has ever run a business yet they seem to think that they know whats wrong with the Welsh Ecomony!!!!

Says the bloke who sold his business and didn't get paid for it. Then spent months chasing them in court whilst constantly asking for advice of the regulars on a football / lads message board.

You're a funny fucker, fair play.

Sorry but people chasing people for monies on a whole range of things so what your point is....?

I do think that the WAG are pushing more and more to the left with bringing in rubbish new laws simply because of the anti colation agenda.

Give them tax rasing powers and we be fucked IMO. Not one of them has ever run a business yet they seem to think that they know whats wrong with the Welsh Ecomony!!!!

Not one of them has ever run a business?

There are Farmers, business managers, Firemen, Assembly line workers, Surveyors
Mining engineers... a rich mix indeed. Many of whom 'ran' businesses.

It means f**k all. YOU allegedly run your own business. Who would believe a word
you say?

Politicians in Britain (not just Wales) are self-serving egotistic tossers whose only
real agenda is self-serving

Name them in the leading Labour group who have actually run a business and by that I don't mean an Assembly line worker, most Labour come through the union system so their anti-business agenda is already there.

Oh your shifting the goalposts now? Yet again you DONT research your claims.
I'm guessing you just checked the 'labour' ones. There are plenty of people in
the Welsh Assembly Government with 'business experience'

FFS I'm self-employed, So I can claim to run my own business.

The Tories in London have a good smattering of 'business-people'

Yet they cannot even be trusted to put an expense form in without lying through
their teeth and stealing tens of thousands from the taxpayer.

Politicians in this country are dishonest cunts

But of course you just focus on the Welsh Assembly ones.

Righto

I haven't shifted no goalposts because the original post was talking about the WAG and Ive always stated the Politicans at the WAG.

It was a fact that more Labour than anyone else at Westminister done dodgy expenses but once again the original poster is on about WAG so I don't know why you mentioned this.

You stated that Politicians are dishonest cunts yet the only proof you have would be the expenses issue and the vast majoirty of politicans didn't have any issues with expenses. However its the people who are also to blame and alear example of that would be those Politicans who got caught out on expenses getting voted back in at the last election!!! Hazel Blears being the prime example.

You also mention that I stated the Labour ones in the WAG,Yes I did because Labour are in total control in the WAG and its their decisions which are up for debate.

ALL those MP's fiddled their expenses, Every f*cking one. But the investigation had to have
parameters, a cut off point. God forbid the whole lot of them get caught out eh

They ALL fiddled it.

Tory/Labour it dont matter. You can trust NONE of them