What Is The Point Of The Welsh language?

so it is useless. it has historic value, Scotland has its own Language as well. why ram it down our throats to please the deluded

Where is it "rammed down your throat"

Does it really offend you that that language of the country is regularly seen on signage?

Define useless - what other use has a language got apart from being able to communicate with others using the same language?

I'll let you Welsh folk discuss teh merits of the Welsh language, but I'll share this little pearler with you. I was visiting the hospital the other night and my son pointed out one of the signs "Ward R", and underneath it, "ward R", presumably the Welsh translation?

why didnt you ask then you would have found out? dont suppose you care that your native language is confined to history? and spoken very little now probably!!

To be honest with you, as sad as it may be to some people, my view is that languages die out and they always have. I studied Welsh up to GCSE standard and when it came to exam time I was sitting 9 subjects and struggling a little so I decided to drop Welsh, my reasoning was that of all the subjects I was sitting it was the one I would have the least use for. When I went to see my teacher (A fierce little woman!) she went beserk with me, and to this day I admire her passion for teaching Welsh.

As for Gaelic? You can still pick up BBC Alba, a strange collection of beardy folk in remote, cold looking places singing odd songs, or farmers updates, something like that? I put it on once out of curiosity and can honestly say it's a very odd sounding noise that they manage to make. So nope, I'll shed no tears that Gaelic is nearly dead, all the best to those that want to keep it going, but I find it ridiculous that the BBC finance a channel to cater for such a minority of viewers, let it die with dignity.

I'll let you Welsh folk discuss teh merits of the Welsh language, but I'll share this little pearler with you. I was visiting the hospital the other night and my son pointed out one of the signs "Ward R", and underneath it, "ward R", presumably the Welsh translation?

why didnt you ask then you would have found out? dont suppose you care that your native language is confined to history? and spoken very little now probably!!

To be honest with you, as sad as it may be to some people, my view is that languages die out and they always have. I studied Welsh up to GCSE standard and when it came to exam time I was sitting 9 subjects and struggling a little so I decided to drop Welsh, my reasoning was that of all the subjects I was sitting it was the one I would have the least use for. When I went to see my teacher (A fierce little woman!) she went beserk with me, and to this day I admire her passion for teaching Welsh.

As for Gaelic? You can still pick up BBC Alba, a strange collection of beardy folk in remote, cold looking places singing odd songs, or farmers updates, something like that? I put it on once out of curiosity and can honestly say it's a very odd sounding noise that they manage to make. So nope, I'll shed no tears that Gaelic is nearly dead, all the best to those that want to keep it going, but I find it ridiculous that the BBC finance a channel to cater for such a minority of viewers, let it die with dignity.

Exactlly the same. I felt no need to continue studying it when I was already studying for 12 other exams. Plus the fact I came out with an A in GCSE after just repeating the question back to them with a slight alteration to the tense and a bit of waffle

Nothing against the language and want to learn it but I dont think it requires the amount of funding that goes into it aswell as wastage on translating every documentation.

I'll let you Welsh folk discuss teh merits of the Welsh language, but I'll share this little pearler with you. I was visiting the hospital the other night and my son pointed out one of the signs "Ward R", and underneath it, "ward R", presumably the Welsh translation?

why didnt you ask then you would have found out? dont suppose you care that your native language is confined to history? and spoken very little now probably!!

To be honest with you, as sad as it may be to some people, my view is that languages die out and they always have. I studied Welsh up to GCSE standard and when it came to exam time I was sitting 9 subjects and struggling a little so I decided to drop Welsh, my reasoning was that of all the subjects I was sitting it was the one I would have the least use for. When I went to see my teacher (A fierce little woman!) she went beserk with me, and to this day I admire her passion for teaching Welsh.

As for Gaelic? You can still pick up BBC Alba, a strange collection of beardy folk in remote, cold looking places singing odd songs, or farmers updates, something like that? I put it on once out of curiosity and can honestly say it's a very odd sounding noise that they manage to make. So nope, I'll shed no tears that Gaelic is nearly dead, all the best to those that want to keep it going, but I find it ridiculous that the BBC finance a channel to cater for such a minority of viewers, let it die with dignity.

yes i notice that channel do get rugby & scot prem games on it, do think there is a big difference with ours compared to gaelic, as ours is on way up especially in cardiff, yes some things are waste of money and its hyjacked by certain minorities which give it bad name but generally its good for us as a nation!, look at city fans complain our identity as been taken away (shirt) thats exsactly what doing away with language will do so may as well be english without it!

I'll let you Welsh folk discuss teh merits of the Welsh language, but I'll share this little pearler with you. I was visiting the hospital the other night and my son pointed out one of the signs "Ward R", and underneath it, "ward R", presumably the Welsh translation?

why didnt you ask then you would have found out? dont suppose you care that your native language is confined to history? and spoken very little now probably!!

To be honest with you, as sad as it may be to some people, my view is that languages die out and they always have. I studied Welsh up to GCSE standard and when it came to exam time I was sitting 9 subjects and struggling a little so I decided to drop Welsh, my reasoning was that of all the subjects I was sitting it was the one I would have the least use for. When I went to see my teacher (A fierce little woman!) she went beserk with me, and to this day I admire her passion for teaching Welsh.

As for Gaelic? You can still pick up BBC Alba, a strange collection of beardy folk in remote, cold looking places singing odd songs, or farmers updates, something like that? I put it on once out of curiosity and can honestly say it's a very odd sounding noise that they manage to make. So nope, I'll shed no tears that Gaelic is nearly dead, all the best to those that want to keep it going, but I find it ridiculous that the BBC finance a channel to cater for such a minority of viewers, let it die with dignity.

yes i notice that channel do get rugby & scot prem games on it, do think there is a big difference with ours compared to gaelic, as ours is on way up especially in cardiff, yes some things are waste of money and its hyjacked by certain minorities which give it bad name but generally its good for us as a nation!, look at city fans complain our identity as been taken away (shirt) thats exsactly what doing away with language will do so may as well be english without it!

Yep, there is a massive difference between Welsh and Gaelic, unless you travel fairly far North in Scotland it's unusual to come across Gaelic except on cheesy tourism ads! It does grind a bit down here when you see road signs with things like Stadium/Stadiwm!!!

My point is the useless language does nothing for Wales. it bring nothing to the economy and holds no attraction to any one visiting.
Its boring and the nationalists never give a good reason why this useless language still lingers on costing us money

ffs why join a forum and slag of our culture/language suggest you find another medium to do so! as we get enough crap fron other trolls on here without you adding to it!

Dont be corny. i will give my opinion where i like. you dont like you move elsewhere

I'll let you Welsh folk discuss teh merits of the Welsh language, but I'll share this little pearler with you. I was visiting the hospital the other night and my son pointed out one of the signs "Ward R", and underneath it, "ward R", presumably the Welsh translation?

why didnt you ask then you would have found out? dont suppose you care that your native language is confined to history? and spoken very little now probably!!

To be honest with you, as sad as it may be to some people, my view is that languages die out and they always have. I studied Welsh up to GCSE standard and when it came to exam time I was sitting 9 subjects and struggling a little so I decided to drop Welsh, my reasoning was that of all the subjects I was sitting it was the one I would have the least use for. When I went to see my teacher (A fierce little woman!) she went beserk with me, and to this day I admire her passion for teaching Welsh.

As for Gaelic? You can still pick up BBC Alba, a strange collection of beardy folk in remote, cold looking places singing odd songs, or farmers updates, something like that? I put it on once out of curiosity and can honestly say it's a very odd sounding noise that they manage to make. So nope, I'll shed no tears that Gaelic is nearly dead, all the best to those that want to keep it going, but I find it ridiculous that the BBC finance a channel to cater for such a minority of viewers, let it die with dignity.

yes i notice that channel do get rugby & scot prem games on it, do think there is a big difference with ours compared to gaelic, as ours is on way up especially in cardiff, yes some things are waste of money and its hyjacked by certain minorities which give it bad name but generally its good for us as a nation!, look at city fans complain our identity as been taken away (shirt) thats exsactly what doing away with language will do so may as well be english without it!

Yep, there is a massive difference between Welsh and Gaelic, unless you travel fairly far North in Scotland it's unusual to come across Gaelic except on cheesy tourism ads! It does grind a bit down here when you see road signs with things like Stadium/Stadiwm!!!

to be honest its easiest way to show our nationality (dual signs) its same in quebec they have to show both, and its enshrined in law same as us, its because we are small nation but thats no excuse to destroy it or any other language for that matter!

so it is useless. it has historic value, Scotland has its own Language as well. why ram it down our throats to please the deluded

Where is it "rammed down your throat"

Does it really offend you that that language of the country is regularly seen on signage?

Define useless - what other use has a language got apart from being able to communicate with others using the same language?

Double the amount of junk mail for a start

Last edited by shinyBlueGlue on Wed Dec 05, 2012 3:43 pm, edited 1 time in total.

so it is useless. it has historic value, Scotland has its own Language as well. why ram it down our throats to please the deluded

Where is it "rammed down your throat"

Does it really offend you that that language of the country is regularly seen on signage?

Define useless - what other use has a language got apart from being able to communicate with others using the same language?

Double the amount of junk mail for a start all for a start

I don't get that in my house.

They ram it down your throat in school, on train stations, on store signs, road signs, all with 25% of south Wales speaking it. plus they put a lot of money into promoting the dead language

They ram it down your throat in school, on train stations, on store signs, road signs, all with 25% of south Wales speaking it. plus they put a lot of money into promoting the dead language

If you call having bilingual signage "ramming it down your throat" then you really have issues.

Dead language? It's growing, hardly dead.

They ram it down your throat in school, on train stations, on store signs, road signs, all with 25% of south Wales speaking it. plus they put a lot of money into promoting the dead language

If you call having bilingual signage "ramming it down your throat" then you really have issues.

Dead language? It's growing, hardly dead.

Let me know when your reading the Echo or this messageboard in Welsh or the Welsh news in Welsh. it will never happen, we live in an English speakin country.

Sooner its dead the better imo

They ram it down your throat in school, on train stations, on store signs, road signs, all with 25% of south Wales speaking it. plus they put a lot of money into promoting the dead language

If you call having bilingual signage "ramming it down your throat" then you really have issues.

Dead language? It's growing, hardly dead.

Let me know when your reading the Echo or this messageboard in Welsh or the Welsh news in Welsh. it will never happen, we live in an English speakin country.

Sooner its dead the better imo

I'm reading the Welsh news, in Welsh, right now..

http://www.bbc.co.uk/newyddion/

They ram it down your throat in school, on train stations, on store signs, road signs, all with 25% of south Wales speaking it. plus they put a lot of money into promoting the dead language

If you call having bilingual signage "ramming it down your throat" then you really have issues.

Dead language? It's growing, hardly dead.

Let me know when your reading the Echo or this messageboard in Welsh or the Welsh news in Welsh. it will never happen, we live in an English speakin country.

Sooner its dead the better imo

I'm reading the Welsh news, in Welsh, right now..

http://www.bbc.co.uk/newyddion/

give yourself a gold star
but you know what i mean, it will never be BBC or HTV main news.

No, because it's a minority language. That's still no excuse to kill it.

They ram it down your throat in school, on train stations, on store signs, road signs, all with 25% of south Wales speaking it. plus they put a lot of money into promoting the dead language

If you call having bilingual signage "ramming it down your throat" then you really have issues.

Dead language? It's growing, hardly dead.

Let me know when your reading the Echo or this messageboard in Welsh or the Welsh news in Welsh. it will never happen, we live in an English speakin country.

Sooner its dead the better imo

It's a very emotive topic, far more so in Wales than Scotland, but I will say that I think the money that gets spent promoting the Welsh language seems disproportionate to the amount of people who actually use it.

Wales is a fairly poor country and in some parts in dire need of better education and decent jobs. Get rid of plaid cymru and the nationalists and concentrate on better living standards etc.

How much extra does it cost for all the extra paper for a small business and god knows how much for a big business.

Wales is a fairly poor country and in some parts in dire need of better education and decent jobs. Get rid of plaid cymru and the nationalists and concentrate on better living standards etc.

How much extra does it cost for all the extra paper for a small business and god knows how much for a big business.

so in your opinion we should abandon supporting welsh language get rid of it and become english? because thats what you are saying, ffs we are welsh!

They ram it down your throat in school, on train stations, on store signs, road signs, all with 25% of south Wales speaking it. plus they put a lot of money into promoting the dead language

If you call having bilingual signage "ramming it down your throat" then you really have issues.

Dead language? It's growing, hardly dead.

barry this smells of RM type person and think gav needs to push button!!

Wales is a fairly poor country and in some parts in dire need of better education and decent jobs. Get rid of plaid cymru and the nationalists and concentrate on better living standards etc.

How much extra does it cost for all the extra paper for a small business and god knows how much for a big business.

so in your opinion we should abandon supporting welsh language get rid of it and become english? because thats what you are saying, ffs we are welsh!

But are people any less Welsh if they don't speak the language? He has a point, at the moment there are other priorities all over the U.K. I do admire the people who stand up for their beliefs on this subject, but lets be practical eh?

Wales is a fairly poor country and in some parts in dire need of better education and decent jobs. Get rid of plaid cymru and the nationalists and concentrate on better living standards etc.

How much extra does it cost for all the extra paper for a small business and god knows how much for a big business.

so in your opinion we should abandon supporting welsh language get rid of it and become english? because thats what you are saying, ffs we are welsh!

But are people any less Welsh if they don't speak the language? He has a point, at the moment there are other priorities all over the U.K. I do admire the people who stand up for their beliefs on this subject, but lets be practical eh?

ok no more welsh language, wheres are identity??? dont forget its more popular than ever. whilst yes its money maybe can be spent elsewhere but where do you draw line?? because sure lots of other things are waste money (politicians)
do we not support it look at renuable energy we are wasting billions on it will we get cheap power like fck we will, ect ect

If someone has a different opinion, it does not mean they are a troll etc.

Listen Wales has some of the best scenery in the world, is full of characters and has some nice towns and a good capital city. i just dont believe the language brings anything of use to the modern Wales.

We should be concentrating on work skills and promoting Wales for the beautifulll country it is.

Wales is a fairly poor country and in some parts in dire need of better education and decent jobs. Get rid of plaid cymru and the nationalists and concentrate on better living standards etc.

How much extra does it cost for all the extra paper for a small business and god knows how much for a big business.

so in your opinion we should abandon supporting welsh language get rid of it and become english? because thats what you are saying, ffs we are welsh!

But are people any less Welsh if they don't speak the language? He has a point, at the moment there are other priorities all over the U.K. I do admire the people who stand up for their beliefs on this subject, but lets be practical eh?

ok no more welsh language, wheres are identity??? dont forget its more popular than ever. whilst yes its money maybe can be spent elsewhere but where do you draw line?? because sure lots of other things are waste money (politicians)
do we not support it look at renuable energy we are wasting billions on it will we get cheap power like fck we will, ect ect

and i dont speak welsh so no axe to grind

They ram it down your throat in school, on train stations, on store signs, road signs, all with 25% of south Wales speaking it. plus they put a lot of money into promoting the dead language

Silly c**t.

There's a WELSH MEDIUM junior school in... LLANRUMNEY where there is a three year
waiting list to get in.

Dead??

Dead things dont grow. Honest.

You can keep on banging on about the amount of people speaking the Welsh language but how many of them actually do on a daily basis. Not many. I am not against the language at all by the way, I am fairly balanced in my opinion. It is not dying nor is it really ever going to grow to much.

One thing that nationalists tend to forget when banging on about the iaith - 99% of us speak fluent English the other per cent speak Somali and Somali alone.

Wales is a fairly poor country and in some parts in dire need of better education and decent jobs. Get rid of plaid cymru and the nationalists and concentrate on better living standards etc.

How much extra does it cost for all the extra paper for a small business and god knows how much for a big business.

so in your opinion we should abandon supporting welsh language get rid of it and become english? because thats what you are saying, ffs we are welsh!

But are people any less Welsh if they don't speak the language? He has a point, at the moment there are other priorities all over the U.K. I do admire the people who stand up for their beliefs on this subject, but lets be practical eh?

Yes lets be practical.

There are 600,000 people in Wales that speak Welsh either fluently or passably.

Thats 600,000 people who obviously WANT the Welsh language to thrive.

But lets kill it off because a handful of silly cunts hate it.

WELSH is not a belief. Its a living breathing language, has been for centuries.

The English couldnt kill it off, so a few bitter 'alleged' Welsh people with a chip
on their shoulders aint gonna manage.

Are people any less Welsh if they dont speak the language... NO

Are people any less Welsh if they want dream of the day when our culture is no more
and we are just 'a bit of a mountainous area' West of Bristol. f**k aye. Disgrace.

They ram it down your throat in school, on train stations, on store signs, road signs, all with 25% of south Wales speaking it. plus they put a lot of money into promoting the dead language

Silly c**t.

There's a WELSH MEDIUM junior school in... LLANRUMNEY where there is a three year
waiting list to get in.

Dead??

Dead things dont grow. Honest.

Mouthy t wat

They ram it down your throat in school, on train stations, on store signs, road signs, all with 25% of south Wales speaking it. plus they put a lot of money into promoting the dead language

Silly c**t.

There's a WELSH MEDIUM junior school in... LLANRUMNEY where there is a three year
waiting list to get in.

Dead??

Dead things dont grow. Honest.

Mouthy t wat

Yeh righto

Wales is a fairly poor country and in some parts in dire need of better education and decent jobs. Get rid of plaid cymru and the nationalists and concentrate on better living standards etc.

How much extra does it cost for all the extra paper for a small business and god knows how much for a big business.

so in your opinion we should abandon supporting welsh language get rid of it and become english? because thats what you are saying, ffs we are welsh!

But are people any less Welsh if they don't speak the language? He has a point, at the moment there are other priorities all over the U.K. I do admire the people who stand up for their beliefs on this subject, but lets be practical eh?

Yes lets be practical.

There are 600,000 people in Wales that speak Welsh either fluently or passably.

Thats 600,000 people who obviously WANT the Welsh language to thrive.

But lets kill it off because a handful of silly cunts hate it.

WELSH is not a belief. Its a living breathing language, has been for centuries.

The English couldnt kill it off, so a few bitter 'alleged' Welsh people with a chip
on their shoulders aint gonna manage.

Are people any less Welsh if they dont speak the language... NO

Are people any less Welsh if they want dream of the day when our culture is no more
and we are just 'a bit of a mountainous area' West of Bristol. f**k aye. Disgrace.

Aside from the fact that I'm Scottish, I don't for one minute think that the Welsh language should be killed off, I have stated a few times that I admire the people who defend and use the Welsh language. But I also believe that too much money gets spent on the Welsh language needlessly, that's just my opinion. I'm not convinced that every single road sign has to be dual language, I'm not convinced that a lot of official literature needs to be in both languages.

Lets face it, if you can't spot the difference between Stadium and Stadiwm, the chances are that you can't read anyway... Just an example, but in these difficult times for the economy, I think it would be more practical to tone down some of the needless (in my eyes) spending.

The irish people I speak and chat to would love for there country to make as much effort as we do about our native language. For me, its what sets us apart from the other plastic celtic countries. Most of the English, irish, Scottish folk I chat to on line or in person... The first thing they ask is "do you speak welsh" and people from further a field like america, australia, south africa etc, ones I explain to them about wales and our "unique celtic language" they really can't get enough of it, they want to know everything.