new investers ??

Do we not learn?

1) tan is not a billionaire, not even close.

2) investment means loans, why is everyone so desperate to riddle the club with crippling debt?

Ths is how it all started

1) If you we're a cardiff fan would it matter if tan were a true billionaire, the guy is undeniably wealthy. Mute point

he is wealthy yes, unfortunately for us he hasn't assigned all of his wealth into the name of Cardiff city any money he decides to put into the club he has contacts drawn up in the manner that we owe him every penny back plus 7%. It wouldn't matter if he was a gazillionaire and that's what city fans need to realise.

Thank you for agreeing.

2) Did you buy your house with cash or was it a crippling loan, what are the alternatives? Go into administration, drop out of league football. If you were a cardiff fan would you want that?

i bought my house via a mortgage that I could afford. Cardiff have borrowed money they can't afford to pay back. The result of that is liquidation, ceasing to trade, not existing anymore. If we went into administration it would mean we would have a ropey team in the championship.

Lucky you, but I borrowed beyond my means at the time, fortunately my salary increased over the last few years where the debt is now manageable, speculated to accumulate. Think that's the strategy here.

Of course I'd prefer administration you plum.

Do we not learn?

1) tan is not a billionaire, not even close.

2) investment means loans, why is everyone so desperate to riddle the club with crippling debt?

Ths is how it all started

1) If you we're a cardiff fan would it matter if tan were a true billionaire, the guy is undeniably wealthy. Mute point

he is wealthy yes, unfortunately for us he hasn't assigned all of his wealth into the name of Cardiff city any money he decides to put into the club he has contacts drawn up in the manner that we owe him every penny back plus 7%. It wouldn't matter if he was a gazillionaire and that's what city fans need to realise.

Thank you for agreeing.

Agreeing that his wealth is not ours? I never disagreed did I?

2) Did you buy your house with cash or was it a crippling loan, what are the alternatives? Go into administration, drop out of league football. If you were a cardiff fan would you want that?

i bought my house via a mortgage that I could afford. Cardiff have borrowed money they can't afford to pay back. The result of that is liquidation, ceasing to trade, not existing anymore. If we went into administration it would mean we would have a ropey team in the championship.

Lucky you, but I borrowed beyond my means at the time, fortunately my salary increased over the last few years where the debt is now manageable, speculated to accumulate. Think that's the strategy here.

[color=#0040FF]in the premier league we will still be losing £20m a year. Unlike your imaginary new job, being in the prem the outgoings increase just as much as the income meaning it makes us no better off financially. Do the math.

Of course I'd prefer administration you plum.[/color]

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I've lost interest again. Keep up the good work NS up to 12.09 posts a day, only Annis can beat that (obsessed springs to mind)

Indeed.

And I'll always post regarding my club and you bet your bottom dollar (us or australian, I'm not bothered) that I'm obsessed. A shame we don't have more real fans out there instead of sellouts.

whats a real fan whats a sell out?? myself dont care about badge /shirt only name cardiff city! so what does that make me??? honest anser plse

A sellout is a person that only wants to see local premier league football and fill their autograph books knowing that it will kill the club, but it's a sacrifice they are willing to take.... While throwing in the clubs historic colours and badge to boot.

A real fan is one that takes a stand and the club always comes first over anything, including premiership football. A real fan would rather walk on hot coals rather than give away our badge and colours for a bit of cash.

I would prefer to see my team play in blue and keep the bluebird, but i,m prepared to go with the investment to see where it takes us, (hopefully debt to equity) so are you telling me that i'm a sellout?????

Absolutely a sell out.

First debt to equity doesn't exist, not to the tune of the debt we are in now.

Secondly even if tan decides to magically waive the £100m debt we are still losing £20m a year and will be back in the same position in 4 to 5 seasons time.

The loans (more accurate word than investment as for some reason football fans see investment as cash gifts) are only leading us to our death and any financial advisor will tell you the same.

I have given more to cardiff city over the last 42 years than you'll ever imagine, i was also going down there when your mother was still washing your shitty nappies, i would willingly discuss the sellout situation with you face to face at a city game, but you don't go, you never have done have you???

Do we not learn?

1) tan is not a billionaire, not even close.

2) investment means loans, why is everyone so desperate to riddle the club with crippling debt?

Ths is how it all started

1) If you we're a cardiff fan would it matter if tan were a true billionaire, the guy is undeniably wealthy. Mute point

he is wealthy yes, unfortunately for us he hasn't assigned all of his wealth into the name of Cardiff city any money he decides to put into the club he has contacts drawn up in the manner that we owe him every penny back plus 7%. It wouldn't matter if he was a gazillionaire and that's what city fans need to realise.

Thank you for agreeing.

Agreeing that his wealth is not ours? I never disagreed did I?

2) Did you buy your house with cash or was it a crippling loan, what are the alternatives? Go into administration, drop out of league football. If you were a cardiff fan would you want that?

i bought my house via a mortgage that I could afford. Cardiff have borrowed money they can't afford to pay back. The result of that is liquidation, ceasing to trade, not existing anymore. If we went into administration it would mean we would have a ropey team in the championship.

Lucky you, but I borrowed beyond my means at the time, fortunately my salary increased over the last few years where the debt is now manageable, speculated to accumulate. Think that's the strategy here.

[color=#0040FF]in the premier league we will still be losing £20m a year. Unlike your imaginary new job, being in the prem the outgoings increase just as much as the income meaning it makes us no better off financially. Do the math.

Of course I'd prefer administration you plum.[/color]

Ok I give up, work in the morning! Can you direct me to one positive anti cardiff post you written?

Do we not learn?

1) tan is not a billionaire, not even close.

2) investment means loans, why is everyone so desperate to riddle the club with crippling debt?

Ths is how it all started

1) If you we're a cardiff fan would it matter if tan were a true billionaire, the guy is undeniably wealthy. Mute point

he is wealthy yes, unfortunately for us he hasn't assigned all of his wealth into the name of Cardiff city any money he decides to put into the club he has contacts drawn up in the manner that we owe him every penny back plus 7%. It wouldn't matter if he was a gazillionaire and that's what city fans need to realise.

Thank you for agreeing.

Agreeing that his wealth is not ours? I never disagreed did I?

2) Did you buy your house with cash or was it a crippling loan, what are the alternatives? Go into administration, drop out of league football. If you were a cardiff fan would you want that?

i bought my house via a mortgage that I could afford. Cardiff have borrowed money they can't afford to pay back. The result of that is liquidation, ceasing to trade, not existing anymore. If we went into administration it would mean we would have a ropey team in the championship.

Lucky you, but I borrowed beyond my means at the time, fortunately my salary increased over the last few years where the debt is now manageable, speculated to accumulate. Think that's the strategy here.

[color=#0040FF]in the premier league we will still be losing £20m a year. Unlike your imaginary new job, being in the prem the outgoings increase just as much as the income meaning it makes us no better off financially. Do the math.

Of course I'd prefer administration you plum.[/color]

Ok I give up, work in the morning! Can you direct me to one positive non anti cardiff post you written?

I have given more to cardiff city over the last 42 years than you'll ever imagine, i was also going down there when your mother was still washing your shitty nappies, i would willingly discuss the sellout situation with you face to face at a city game, but you don't go, you never have done have you???

My grandad cheated on my grandma after 47 years of marriage and all sorts of financial support, it destroyed her. But he turned his back on her and get his head turned by a younger version. Who then divorced him and rinsed him for his cash.

Just because you have supported city for a long time and spent money doing so it hasn't earned you the right to fritter the club away on a whim, and that is what anyone supporting the rebrand is doing.

Ok I give up, work in the morning! Can you direct me to one positive anti cardiff post you written?

Absolutely if you can direct me to a positive story.

Who in their right mind would make a positive out of us seeking more loans?

I have given more to cardiff city over the last 42 years than you'll ever imagine, i was also going down there when your mother was still washing your shitty nappies, i would willingly discuss the sellout situation with you face to face at a city game, but you don't go, you never have done have you???

My grandad cheated on my grandma after 47 years of marriage and all sorts of financial support, it destroyed her. But he turned his back on her and get his head turned by a younger version. Who then divorced him and rinsed him for his cash.

Just because you have supported city for a long time and spent money doing so it hasn't earned you the right to fritter the club away on a whim, and that is what anyone supporting the rebrand is doing.

That's life

So we all stay at home on Saturday then?

I've lost interest again. Keep up the good work NS up to 12.09 posts a day, only Annis can beat that (obsessed springs to mind)

Bingo!

Don't she bang on eh?

absolutely

Nauseously

Anyone really listening?

seems that way

The word really is the main word.


Fact is, even if she is 100% right, what we going to do?

get liquidated.

I meant us as fans

in that case I guess go and watch the rugby on a Saturday instead?

If and when it happens, I shall cross that bridge. But for now, I intend to bury my head in the sand, keep going as long as I can and stop reading your continual posts about the same subject.

G'night.

See below


That's right, feck all.

Ok I give up, work in the morning! Can you direct me to one positive anti cardiff post you written?

Absolutely if you can direct me to a positive story.

Who in their right mind would make a positive out of us seeking more loans?

Your usual swerving response

Ok I give up, work in the morning! Can you direct me to one positive anti cardiff post you written?

Absolutely if you can direct me to a positive story.

Who in their right mind would make a positive out of us seeking more loans?

Your usual swerving response

It's it a swerving response at all.

It's being slightly confused by the question. The club is heading for liquidation and your asking for positivity?

NS is a jack Hunt end of

NS is a jack Hunt end of

Interesting guess. Source?

I heard Annis is taking over


bluebird since48 is gonna start taking the first team training sessions

No smoking, you didn't answer my question on the other thread ? I'll repeat it... What do you hope Cardiff City have achieved come the seasons end ?

No smoking, you didn't answer my question on the other thread ? I'll repeat it... What do you hope Cardiff City have achieved come the seasons end ?

Doesn't matter. Why can't people understand that?

liquidation doesnt care whether we win the fa cup and championship by 50 points. Liquidation is liquidation.

No smoking, you didn't answer my question on the other thread ? I'll repeat it... What do you hope Cardiff City have achieved come the seasons end ?

Doesn't matter. Why can't people understand that?

liquidation doesnt care whether we win the fa cup and championship by 50 points. Liquidation is liquidation.

Doesn't matter, I've asked you a straight question and you say it doesn't matter ? I have to be honest mate, you are odd. You should take your support elsewhere, you aren't actually lobbying for anything, you aren't doing anything that I can see other than say you're a real fan. When your doom and gloom comes to fruition come back and say, I told you so. Otherwise I see not one reason for you to keep talking of liquidation on here. Real fan my arse.

You really don't understand what's going on here do you?

What do you want me to say? My hoes are that we win the fa cup? Get promoted? Please understand, if we are losing £20m a year it doesn't matter if we win the FIFA World Cup does it?

I have no interest what happens on the pitch, I don't see how anyone can. My interest is purely the well being and finances of the club. We are losing £20m a year which is getting piled onto an already unserviceable £96m debt. I couldn't care less if we win 30 games in a row it makes no difference to what's happening off the field.

Once you understand that then maybe we should talk but it's pretty pointless at the moment as you clearly have no grasp of what's going on.

Okay..... So what are you proposing to do ? Have you a Masterplan ?

Okay..... So what are you proposing to do ? Have you a Masterplan ?

Me and others are staying away, we have not bought anything from the club since the rebrand and actively encourage others to do the same. At the start of this whole rebrand nonsense were very vocal in the opposition to it but were overwhelmed by sheer numbers of plastics who wanted to trade in our colours, badge and future for a possible glimpse of some stars down he CCS.

I will continue to try and educate people and hope people see sense sooner rather than later so we can meet our fate and get on with rebuilding instead of wasting a few more seasons of stagnant nothingness to tans shameless advertising campaign with Cardiff city being host to the parasite.

I hate to say it, but I just cannot see what is wrong with anything (apart from the staying away and not buying anything comment) that NoSmoking has said.

I have not idea if he is a jack or not.

The last thing we need is another "investor".

If VT and this sheikh fella decide to give us a few hundred million then great, but until then we need to concentrate on the team on the pitch and managing the debt.

If he is a sultan, he should be ok for raisin some money.

I got it pal

Thank you. At least you are keeping up. Those at the back are snoozing, no wonder we have all this infighting.

I must admit he will be a fruitcake if he does invest.

I hate to say it, but I just cannot see what is wrong with anything (apart from the staying away and not buying anything comment) that NoSmoking has said.

I have not idea if he is a jack or not.

The last thing we need is another "investor".

If VT and this sheikh fella decide to give us a few hundred million then great, but until then we need to concentrate on the team on the pitch and managing the debt.

No Smoking comes across as a bitter person (not sure why).
I still go to games, but spend no money on programmes, food or have even been in the club shop.

I do not agree with the massive debt problems (if true) but I support the team, and the politics of it all (although interesting) is beyond my control. I will continue to support the team. Do not like all this infighting (divide and conquer springs to mind).

It is foreign money coming into the club (and country) so is good for the local economy. HMRC are being paid, wages and taxes are being paid, people/suppliers have jobs and are being paid. The team are doing ok so all is well with the world as far as it concerns me.

I hate to say it, but I just cannot see what is wrong with anything (apart from the staying away and not buying anything comment) that NoSmoking has said.

I have not idea if he is a jack or not.

The last thing we need is another "investor".

If VT and this sheikh fella decide to give us a few hundred million then great, but until then we need to concentrate on the team on the pitch and managing the debt.

No Smoking comes across as a bitter person (not sure why).
I still go to games, but spend no money on programmes, food or have even been in the club shop.

I do not agree with the massive debt problems (if true) but I support the team, and the politics of it all (although interesting) is beyond my control. I will continue to support the team. Do not like all this infighting (divide and conquer springs to mind).

It is foreign money coming into the club (and country) so is good for the local economy. HMRC are being paid, wages and taxes are being paid, people/suppliers have jobs and are being paid. The team are doing ok so all is well with the world as far as it concerns me.

You don't have a long neck and a feathery body do you? I've seen ostriches in zoos but never had the pleasure of speaking to one.

I'm honoured.

If he is a sultan, he should be ok for raisin some money.

I got it pal

Thank you. At least you are keeping up. Those at the back are snoozing, no wonder we have all this infighting.

I must admit he will be a fruitcake if he does invest.

You're right, there certainly is an under-currant of negativity

I am loving the new pink and grey diamond away kit next season

You really don't understand what's going on here do you?

What do you want me to say? My hoes are that we win the fa cup? Get promoted? Please understand, if we are losing £20m a year it doesn't matter if we win the FIFA World Cup does it?

I have no interest what happens on the pitch, I don't see how anyone can. My interest is purely the well being and finances of the club. We are losing £20m a year which is getting piled onto an already unserviceable £96m debt. I couldn't care less if we win 30 games in a row it makes no difference to what's happening off the field.

Once you understand that then maybe we should talk but it's pretty pointless at the moment as you clearly have no grasp of what's going on.

and that is all the proof anyone needs to know that your not a cardiff fan.

i mean a cardiff fan that has no interest what goes on on the pitch you really couldnt make this sh1t up.

what goes on on the pitch is all that matters for that 90+ minutes they are playing. the rest of the time we debate about everything but when they are playing everything else goes out the window. youve just confirmed what everyone already knew though. im not even gonna claim your a jack, you just simply aint a cardiff fan.

all you are doing is scaremongering about what could happen, not will. yes theres a possibility that what you are saying is true but the fans cant really do much about that so the fans concentrate on what they can influence by supporting the team as best they can.

you offer no alternatives/solutions. your posts are only ever negative towards cardiff, you never discuss anything else other than armageddon at cardiff city fc.

every single person on the forum should just hit the ignore button and let you post to your self and then wait for the next username you pop up with, you stand out a mile anyway so it wont be difficult.

dont care about what happens on the pitch, hahaha honest to god, thats brilliant that.

Okay..... So what are you proposing to do ? Have you a Masterplan ?

Me and others are staying away, we have not bought anything from the club since the rebrand and actively encourage others to do the same. At the start of this whole rebrand nonsense were very vocal in the opposition to it but were overwhelmed by sheer numbers of plastics who wanted to trade in our colours, badge and future for a possible glimpse of some stars down he CCS.

I will continue to try and educate people and hope people see sense sooner rather than later so we can meet our fate and get on with rebuilding instead of wasting a few more seasons of stagnant nothingness to tans shameless advertising campaign with Cardiff city being host to the parasite.

No magic,

Let's try some fact based posting.

Mr Tan is bankrolling Cardiff City. That is not parasitical.

A parasite is an organism that lives off it's host. Rather like you do with this messageboard.

You disgusting pervert.

I go to watch football, i do not go to worry about all the politics surrounding money, investments and the like, at the end of the day we really have some stupid pricks who go to a football game not to watch it but worry about our finances



only at CCFC can this happen, i can only describe these people as sad lonely cunts who have f**k all better to do than slag my beloved cardiff city off

stay away CCFC does not need your type and never will

Pricks

I go to watch football, i do not go to worry about all the politics surrounding money, investments and the like, at the end of the day we really have some stupid pricks who go to a football game not to watch it but worry about our finances



only at CCFC can this happen, i can only describe these people as sad lonely cunts who have f**k all better to do than slag my beloved cardiff city off

stay away CCFC does not need your type and never will

Pricks

Best quote in thread.