Sinclair to Citeh for £6.2 million

The sum of the cva was only 46k the rest was bought out my mel nurse.

Again, just sayin...

Answer the question that I asked please. Would SCFC have taken CVA and ripping off 5p in the £ had 10 pt deductions been in place?

Yes.

Next question-would SCFC (who have done very well in the EPL)be in PL if 10 pts had been deducted?

I see no reason why not.

Were you not in league 2 (div 3 at time?) near bottom when this happened so you would have been in conference with loss of 10 pts?

It was the 2001/2 season and we finished in 20th place, 15th points clear of Halifax who were relegated.

I love the fact that anyone that speaks sense is labelled roathmagic.

The deal is not under negotiation. We are offering him less than what he\\\'s owed and he\\\'s rightfully rejecting it. Swansea did this for 46k. The amount we borrow to pay Bellamy for 10 days. We are doing it to the tune of £20 million.

Let\\\'s not throw stones eh? It\\\'s a bit like Ian Huntley frowning at someone for smacking their kid.

You sick b*stard. Another ban coming up Dimi/Roath. Whoever you support whether it is CCFC or SCFC you are beyond contempt.

anyway lets not get bogged down with money squabbles again how are you enjoying the season so far fellas , after a far from convincing start what are you hoping for this season ? i don't think you'll go down personally , what are your thoughts

depends on whether we get deducted 10 pts for not paying Langston

your obsessed with money mun , we've got tonnes of the stuff but at the end of the day it's all about the football is'nt it

Sick? What?

Did you read my post?

anyway lets not get bogged down with money squabbles again how are you enjoying the season so far fellas , after a far from convincing start what are you hoping for this season ? i don't think you'll go down personally , what are your thoughts

depends on whether we get deducted 10 pts for not paying Langston

your obsessed with money mun , we've got tonnes of the stuff but at the end of the day it's all about the football is'nt it

at moment you have but yet to see premier club keep there money for to long!

anyway lets not get bogged down with money squabbles again how are you enjoying the season so far fellas , after a far from convincing start what are you hoping for this season ? i don't think you'll go down personally , what are your thoughts

depends on whether we get deducted 10 pts for not paying Langston

your obsessed with money mun , we've got tonnes of the stuff but at the end of the day it's all about the football is'nt it

at moment you have but yet to see premier club keep there money for to long!

also your fans are of opinion get 90mil a season when you dont in reality you got 56mil last season? then deductions wages ect ect come out. all higher than previous season so whilst yes looks good will it stay that way??

anyway lets not get bogged down with money squabbles again how are you enjoying the season so far fellas , after a far from convincing start what are you hoping for this season ? i don't think you'll go down personally , what are your thoughts

depends on whether we get deducted 10 pts for not paying Langston

your obsessed with money mun , we've got tonnes of the stuff but at the end of the day it's all about the football is'nt it

at moment you have but yet to see premier club keep there money for to long!

they're not run as well as us though , anyway back to football ! have you got any youngsters coming through ? young ben davies made his debut saturday , the kid is class apparently god i love fotball don't you al

anyway lets not get bogged down with money squabbles again how are you enjoying the season so far fellas , after a far from convincing start what are you hoping for this season ? i don't think you'll go down personally , what are your thoughts

depends on whether we get deducted 10 pts for not paying Langston

your obsessed with money mun , we've got tonnes of the stuff but at the end of the day it's all about the football is'nt it

at moment you have but yet to see premier club keep there money for to long!

they're not run as well as us though , anyway back to football ! have you got any youngsters coming through ? young ben davies made his debut saturday , the kid is class apparently god i love fotball don't you al

yes actually gets me away from every day living before i retired it was very strange high stress job then going to high stress footy match!

anyway lets not get bogged down with money squabbles again how are you enjoying the season so far fellas , after a far from convincing start what are you hoping for this season ? i don't think you'll go down personally , what are your thoughts

depends on whether we get deducted 10 pts for not paying Langston

your obsessed with money mun , we've got tonnes of the stuff but at the end of the day it's all about the football is'nt it

at moment you have but yet to see premier club keep there money for to long!

also your fans are of opinion get 90mil a season when you dont in reality you got 56mil last season? then deductions wages ect ect come out. all higher than previous season so whilst yes looks good will it stay that way??

another obsessed with money

anyway lets not get bogged down with money squabbles again how are you enjoying the season so far fellas , after a far from convincing start what are you hoping for this season ? i don't think you'll go down personally , what are your thoughts

depends on whether we get deducted 10 pts for not paying Langston

your obsessed with money mun , we've got tonnes of the stuff but at the end of the day it's all about the football is'nt it

I've seen 2 of our games. Hudds at home was poor quality whereas away to Brighton we knocked the ball around well and should have won (their keeper was man of match in my opinion). However good football doesnt always get you up. Blackpool were better than west ham last season (in fact donny rovers were better to watch than wet spam). West Ham were crude but effective. Just a shame that they forgot how to defend on saturday

thought back to footy matters

love footy as said gets me away from reality!

Maybe your shitty club can start paying rent on its council house and you can pay back your cva creditors as we all know that without screwing creditors your club would still be in lower leagues.

We're still over twenty places above you lot, so what does that make your club?

As far as playing in a "council house" is concerned, so do Inter and AC Milan, who have eleven European Cups between them. And they are not the only BIG clubs in world football who rent their stadium.

I'm a creditor of The Swans, as is Alan Curtis & John Hollins, and we were willing to take a hit so that the club would survive. I suppose the bluebirds would have done the honorable thing and gone into liquidation. Just think you might be now have been at top of the Premier League, given a fresh start.

Your bitterness is an embarrassment to the majority of your sensible fans. Grow up.

my sweet lord here is another, how many regular jack posters are on here? its getting ridiculous. i know they dont have a decent site which is a bit odd 4 such a big premier league club (we have 2 )....obsession 4sure.

it's more fun on here

MALKY OUT, MALKY OUT

Shame you are going for good then when you get to a 1,000 posts eh!!!

anyway lets not get bogged down with money squabbles again how are you enjoying the season so far fellas , after a far from convincing start what are you hoping for this season ? i don't think you'll go down personally , what are your thoughts

depends on whether we get deducted 10 pts for not paying Langston

your obsessed with money mun , we've got tonnes of the stuff but at the end of the day it's all about the football is'nt it

at moment you have but yet to see premier club keep there money for to long!

they're not run as well as us though , anyway back to football ! have you got any youngsters coming through ? young ben davies made his debut saturday , the kid is class apparently god i love fotball don't you al

I hate football at moment-not sure whether it is the current ccfc situation or whether family matters are more important.

Tommy O'Sullivan and Declan John are top notch along with Joe Ralls and Ben Nugent. No doubt they'll be sold to Fulham for 2 million in next year or so.

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Were you not in league 2 (div 3 at time?) near bottom when this happened so you would have been in conference with loss of 10 pts?

It was the 2001/2 season and we finished in 20th place, 15th points clear of Halifax who were relegated.

Fair enough although a club that gets deduction either galvanises and goes on great run or they see the 10pts and panic and lose 8 on trot.

anyway lets not get bogged down with money squabbles again how are you enjoying the season so far fellas , after a far from convincing start what are you hoping for this season ? i don't think you'll go down personally , what are your thoughts

depends on whether we get deducted 10 pts for not paying Langston

your obsessed with money mun , we've got tonnes of the stuff but at the end of the day it's all about the football is'nt it

I've seen 2 of our games. Hudds at home was poor quality whereas away to Brighton we knocked the ball around well and should have won (their keeper was man of match in my opinion). However good football doesnt always get you up. Blackpool were better than west ham last season (in fact donny rovers were better to watch than wet spam). West Ham were crude but effective. Just a shame that they forgot how to defend on saturday

west ham are a typical sam allardyce outfit , big and powerful , but he seems to be doing the same as you bringing some good players in but still going route 1 , and they've got a shit defence as well

f**k me, I cant believe you are welcoming your owners selling your best players, but there again you are 2nd class fans for a 2nd class club

You dont get football do you?

1) If a player wants to go he will go. If Liverpool or City come calling then guess what happens?
2) When players go the secret is to get top price.
3) The next trick is to get better players in for less money

We have done all 3.
And if you think sinclair is one of our best players then you have no idea. I would rather lose him than, Dyer, Vorm, Leon, Williams, Taylor, Rangel no problem.
When you think we got Michu, JDG, Chicco, Ki and maybe Hernandez for the price of Joe Allen then its a no brainer. It has also enabled us to build training facilities and stadium expansion without eating into the player budget.

Stadium expansion

Care to explain what was sooo funny?

What are you planning on increasing the capacity to? When are you expanding if you are? It's the first time I've heard it although I never really hear about anything Swans related unless it's on this messageboard. It's funny because before you got promoted you barely got 15,000 for most of your home games but now suddenly all the plastics are turning up now that you're in the Prem. How are you sure that the plastics are going to stay if say you get relegated in the next 3 years? It would look ridiculous having a half empty stadium.

'MARE!!
Next season, conditional on us staying up this year, the Liberty will have a capacity of 30,000. the demand is there see mate, 'plastics' or not, demand is outstripping supply. Simple business really. unlike your dreams of expansion, when you can't and don't fill your current council owned Lego brick sh*t tip


Only Cardiff fans can be this thick and get away with it. Anyway, shouldn't you chaps be off demanding Malky's head after three, THREE, games
Clowns on and off the pitch. no wonder Tan was and is able to rape Cardiff City at whim withh lads like you in the stands.

Wrong peg boy, our stadium is not council owned, yours is though.

The original poster says Swansea getting lots of money for two wantaway players widens the gap further. In what way do you mean? You've lost your manager, coaching staff, and four of your best players of last season. Have you spent more money than us this summer? If i used the same spurious logic as you then we've spent 10m, and saved millions on Craig Bellamy whilst keeping hold of players like Ben Turner and Peter Whittingham. We're 2/3 games into the season and already Laudrup is being classed a great manager whilst Malky is getting criticised by the hoards of knee-jerk overreacting computer managers we have. I'm glad I'm of the pre-Talk Sport school of thought that knows it's at least ten games in before you get a picture of things. Financially we have owners and board members who are extremely rich people whilst you lot had to start from scratch after the last CVA. Since news of our debts broke all that time ago, you lot have prided yourself on trying to take the moral highground which has been truly hypocritical given your history on paying debts, and now you've come into a bit of money and you're trying to lord that over us. Again, hypocrisy of the highest order from the proud frugal Jacks

ok talk about paying your debts, why dont you pay sam what you owe him instead of trying to pull a fast one and paying him a fraction of the debt!!!!!!!!!!

The original poster says Swansea getting lots of money for two wantaway players widens the gap further. In what way do you mean? You've lost your manager, coaching staff, and four of your best players of last season. Have you spent more money than us this summer? If i used the same spurious logic as you then we've spent 10m, and saved millions on Craig Bellamy whilst keeping hold of players like Ben Turner and Peter Whittingham. We're 2/3 games into the season and already Laudrup is being classed a great manager whilst Malky is getting criticised by the hoards of knee-jerk overreacting computer managers we have. I'm glad I'm of the pre-Talk Sport school of thought that knows it's at least ten games in before you get a picture of things. Financially we have owners and board members who are extremely rich people whilst you lot had to start from scratch after the last CVA. Since news of our debts broke all that time ago, you lot have prided yourself on trying to take the moral highground which has been truly hypocritical given your history on paying debts, and now you've come into a bit of money and you're trying to lord that over us. Again, hypocrisy of the highest order from the proud frugal Jacks

ok talk about paying your debts, why dont you pay sam what you owe him instead of trying to pull a fast one and paying him a fraction of the debt!!!!!!!!!!

Maybe it is time you and your fellow comrades find out 1 or 2 fact's before you spout off your mouth's, WE OWE LANGSTON'S NOT SAM

The original poster says Swansea getting lots of money for two wantaway players widens the gap further. In what way do you mean? You've lost your manager, coaching staff, and four of your best players of last season. Have you spent more money than us this summer? If i used the same spurious logic as you then we've spent 10m, and saved millions on Craig Bellamy whilst keeping hold of players like Ben Turner and Peter Whittingham. We're 2/3 games into the season and already Laudrup is being classed a great manager whilst Malky is getting criticised by the hoards of knee-jerk overreacting computer managers we have. I'm glad I'm of the pre-Talk Sport school of thought that knows it's at least ten games in before you get a picture of things. Financially we have owners and board members who are extremely rich people whilst you lot had to start from scratch after the last CVA. Since news of our debts broke all that time ago, you lot have prided yourself on trying to take the moral highground which has been truly hypocritical given your history on paying debts, and now you've come into a bit of money and you're trying to lord that over us. Again, hypocrisy of the highest order from the proud frugal Jacks

ok talk about paying your debts, why dont you pay sam what you owe him instead of trying to pull a fast one and paying him a fraction of the debt!!!!!!!!!!

Maybe it is time you and your fellow comrades find out 1 or 2 fact's before you spout off your mouth's, WE OWE LANGSTON'S NOT SAM

yeah it's got nothing to do with sam has it

The original poster says Swansea getting lots of money for two wantaway players widens the gap further. In what way do you mean? You've lost your manager, coaching staff, and four of your best players of last season. Have you spent more money than us this summer? If i used the same spurious logic as you then we've spent 10m, and saved millions on Craig Bellamy whilst keeping hold of players like Ben Turner and Peter Whittingham. We're 2/3 games into the season and already Laudrup is being classed a great manager whilst Malky is getting criticised by the hoards of knee-jerk overreacting computer managers we have. I'm glad I'm of the pre-Talk Sport school of thought that knows it's at least ten games in before you get a picture of things. Financially we have owners and board members who are extremely rich people whilst you lot had to start from scratch after the last CVA. Since news of our debts broke all that time ago, you lot have prided yourself on trying to take the moral highground which has been truly hypocritical given your history on paying debts, and now you've come into a bit of money and you're trying to lord that over us. Again, hypocrisy of the highest order from the proud frugal Jacks

ok talk about paying your debts, why dont you pay sam what you owe him instead of trying to pull a fast one and paying him a fraction of the debt!!!!!!!!!!

Maybe it is time you and your fellow comrades find out 1 or 2 fact's before you spout off your mouth's, WE OWE LANGSTON'S NOT SAM

That is debatable-Sam and Langstone in many people's opinions are the same.

The original poster says Swansea getting lots of money for two wantaway players widens the gap further. In what way do you mean? You've lost your manager, coaching staff, and four of your best players of last season. Have you spent more money than us this summer? If i used the same spurious logic as you then we've spent 10m, and saved millions on Craig Bellamy whilst keeping hold of players like Ben Turner and Peter Whittingham. We're 2/3 games into the season and already Laudrup is being classed a great manager whilst Malky is getting criticised by the hoards of knee-jerk overreacting computer managers we have. I'm glad I'm of the pre-Talk Sport school of thought that knows it's at least ten games in before you get a picture of things. Financially we have owners and board members who are extremely rich people whilst you lot had to start from scratch after the last CVA. Since news of our debts broke all that time ago, you lot have prided yourself on trying to take the moral highground which has been truly hypocritical given your history on paying debts, and now you've come into a bit of money and you're trying to lord that over us. Again, hypocrisy of the highest order from the proud frugal Jacks

ok talk about paying your debts, why dont you pay sam what you owe him instead of trying to pull a fast one and paying him a fraction of the debt!!!!!!!!!!

Maybe it is time you and your fellow comrades find out 1 or 2 fact's before you spout off your mouth's, WE OWE LANGSTON'S NOT SAM

yeah it's got nothing to do with sam has it

Who knows ?

The original poster says Swansea getting lots of money for two wantaway players widens the gap further. In what way do you mean? You've lost your manager, coaching staff, and four of your best players of last season. Have you spent more money than us this summer? If i used the same spurious logic as you then we've spent 10m, and saved millions on Craig Bellamy whilst keeping hold of players like Ben Turner and Peter Whittingham. We're 2/3 games into the season and already Laudrup is being classed a great manager whilst Malky is getting criticised by the hoards of knee-jerk overreacting computer managers we have. I'm glad I'm of the pre-Talk Sport school of thought that knows it's at least ten games in before you get a picture of things. Financially we have owners and board members who are extremely rich people whilst you lot had to start from scratch after the last CVA. Since news of our debts broke all that time ago, you lot have prided yourself on trying to take the moral highground which has been truly hypocritical given your history on paying debts, and now you've come into a bit of money and you're trying to lord that over us. Again, hypocrisy of the highest order from the proud frugal Jacks

ok talk about paying your debts, why dont you pay sam what you owe him instead of trying to pull a fast one and paying him a fraction of the debt!!!!!!!!!!

Maybe it is time you and your fellow comrades find out 1 or 2 fact's before you spout off your mouth's, WE OWE LANGSTON'S NOT SAM

yeah it's got nothing to do with sam has it

Who knows ?

well if you don't know how can you tell people to get their facts right !!!!

The original poster says Swansea getting lots of money for two wantaway players widens the gap further. In what way do you mean? You've lost your manager, coaching staff, and four of your best players of last season. Have you spent more money than us this summer? If i used the same spurious logic as you then we've spent 10m, and saved millions on Craig Bellamy whilst keeping hold of players like Ben Turner and Peter Whittingham. We're 2/3 games into the season and already Laudrup is being classed a great manager whilst Malky is getting criticised by the hoards of knee-jerk overreacting computer managers we have. I'm glad I'm of the pre-Talk Sport school of thought that knows it's at least ten games in before you get a picture of things. Financially we have owners and board members who are extremely rich people whilst you lot had to start from scratch after the last CVA. Since news of our debts broke all that time ago, you lot have prided yourself on trying to take the moral highground which has been truly hypocritical given your history on paying debts, and now you've come into a bit of money and you're trying to lord that over us. Again, hypocrisy of the highest order from the proud frugal Jacks

ok talk about paying your debts, why dont you pay sam what you owe him instead of trying to pull a fast one and paying him a fraction of the debt!!!!!!!!!!

Maybe it is time you and your fellow comrades find out 1 or 2 fact's before you spout off your mouth's, WE OWE LANGSTON'S NOT SAM

yeah it's got nothing to do with sam has it

Have you got proof otherwise????

The original poster says Swansea getting lots of money for two wantaway players widens the gap further. In what way do you mean? You've lost your manager, coaching staff, and four of your best players of last season. Have you spent more money than us this summer? If i used the same spurious logic as you then we've spent 10m, and saved millions on Craig Bellamy whilst keeping hold of players like Ben Turner and Peter Whittingham. We're 2/3 games into the season and already Laudrup is being classed a great manager whilst Malky is getting criticised by the hoards of knee-jerk overreacting computer managers we have. I'm glad I'm of the pre-Talk Sport school of thought that knows it's at least ten games in before you get a picture of things. Financially we have owners and board members who are extremely rich people whilst you lot had to start from scratch after the last CVA. Since news of our debts broke all that time ago, you lot have prided yourself on trying to take the moral highground which has been truly hypocritical given your history on paying debts, and now you've come into a bit of money and you're trying to lord that over us. Again, hypocrisy of the highest order from the proud frugal Jacks

ok talk about paying your debts, why dont you pay sam what you owe him instead of trying to pull a fast one and paying him a fraction of the debt!!!!!!!!!!

Maybe it is time you and your fellow comrades find out 1 or 2 fact's before you spout off your mouth's, WE OWE LANGSTON'S NOT SAM

yeah it's got nothing to do with sam has it

Who knows ?

well if you don't know how can you tell people to get their facts right !!!!

The original poster says Swansea getting lots of money for two wantaway players widens the gap further. In what way do you mean? You've lost your manager, coaching staff, and four of your best players of last season. Have you spent more money than us this summer? If i used the same spurious logic as you then we've spent 10m, and saved millions on Craig Bellamy whilst keeping hold of players like Ben Turner and Peter Whittingham. We're 2/3 games into the season and already Laudrup is being classed a great manager whilst Malky is getting criticised by the hoards of knee-jerk overreacting computer managers we have. I'm glad I'm of the pre-Talk Sport school of thought that knows it's at least ten games in before you get a picture of things. Financially we have owners and board members who are extremely rich people whilst you lot had to start from scratch after the last CVA. Since news of our debts broke all that time ago, you lot have prided yourself on trying to take the moral highground which has been truly hypocritical given your history on paying debts, and now you've come into a bit of money and you're trying to lord that over us. Again, hypocrisy of the highest order from the proud frugal Jacks

ok talk about paying your debts, why dont you pay sam what you owe him instead of trying to pull a fast one and paying him a fraction of the debt!!!!!!!!!!

Maybe it is time you and your fellow comrades find out 1 or 2 fact's before you spout off your mouth's, WE OWE LANGSTON'S NOT SAM

yeah it's got nothing to do with sam has it

Have you got proof otherwise????

hello brains how are you , why would i need proof ? what have i said that needs to be proved ?

The original poster says Swansea getting lots of money for two wantaway players widens the gap further. In what way do you mean? You've lost your manager, coaching staff, and four of your best players of last season. Have you spent more money than us this summer? If i used the same spurious logic as you then we've spent 10m, and saved millions on Craig Bellamy whilst keeping hold of players like Ben Turner and Peter Whittingham. We're 2/3 games into the season and already Laudrup is being classed a great manager whilst Malky is getting criticised by the hoards of knee-jerk overreacting computer managers we have. I'm glad I'm of the pre-Talk Sport school of thought that knows it's at least ten games in before you get a picture of things. Financially we have owners and board members who are extremely rich people whilst you lot had to start from scratch after the last CVA. Since news of our debts broke all that time ago, you lot have prided yourself on trying to take the moral highground which has been truly hypocritical given your history on paying debts, and now you've come into a bit of money and you're trying to lord that over us. Again, hypocrisy of the highest order from the proud frugal Jacks

ok talk about paying your debts, why dont you pay sam what you owe him instead of trying to pull a fast one and paying him a fraction of the debt!!!!!!!!!!

Maybe it is time you and your fellow comrades find out 1 or 2 fact's before you spout off your mouth's, WE OWE LANGSTON'S NOT SAM

yeah it's got nothing to do with sam has it

Have you got proof otherwise????

hello brains how are you , why would i need proof ? what have i said that needs to be proved ?

You seem to know an awful lot about our club, where do you get your information from???

Answer the question that I asked please. Would SCFC have taken CVA and ripping off 5p in the £ had 10 pt deductions been in place?

Yes.

Next question-would SCFC (who have done very well in the EPL)be in PL if 10 pts had been deducted?

I see no reason why not.

Were you not in league 2 (div 3 at time?) near bottom when this happened so you would have been in conference with loss of 10 pts?

It was the 2001/2 season and we finished in 20th place, 15th points clear of Halifax who were relegated.

I hope that clears things up for you Gareth

what information ? look i know you're not the sharpest tool in the box so i'll just leave this one because you'll only end up making yourself look a lid again

Answer the question that I asked please. Would SCFC have taken CVA and ripping off 5p in the £ had 10 pt deductions been in place?

Yes.

It was the 2001/2 season and we finished in 20th place, 15th points clear of Halifax who were relegated.

I hope that clears things up for you Gareth [/quote][/quote][/quote]
As clear as mud but to sum up you would agree with me that SCFC would be in Conference South without the CVA

Answer the question that I asked please. Would SCFC have taken CVA and ripping off 5p in the £ had 10 pt deductions been in place?

Yes.

It was the 2001/2 season and we finished in 20th place, 15th points clear of Halifax who were relegated.

I hope that clears things up for you Gareth

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As clear as mud but to sum up you would agree with me that SCFC would be in Conference South without the CVA [/quote]

No, we probably wouldn't have a club. Much like yourselves if your Malaysian benefactor pulls the plug.