NO DEAL-LANGSTON

f*cking hell mun.

if the debt has been due then why haven't sam/langston taken club to court then

Shall I ask Sam to advise Langston to call off negotiations and take the club to court, shall I say some fans think you should put a winding up order on the club or file for administration ?

For crying out loud the opportunity is here to settle for less but you ask why not go to court.

What if Langston win the day? What then?

I don't want that, do you?

What!!! are you his Lawyer ? how much real influence do u have over Sam? stop all this bullshit and propoganda , Sam wouldnt do it anyway , its too high risk , so stop spouting this bullshit .
If Sam was that peaved he would do it, but I bet you he wont cause his case isnt strong enough.

I am not Anti Sam or Pro VT , but all this is so tiresome, lets just bring it all to a head then , and see what happens , what else Can we do?. Or just let THEM get on with it.

In the meantime KCB , bluebird till I die.

dont think anyone knows the true story and what SH ,oops i mean Langston is really owed, not Carl, not Annis, and no one knows what is offered, so probably best not to sling mud in any direction.

Wrong.

And when I decide then you will know why I am confident in everything I have written.

What s your cut for all this propoganda Carl?

Couldnt resist posting on this. I must be like the Pro-Cardiff City
version of Roath Magic

Sam Hammam ran up a debt of tens of millions when he was the gaffer at
Cardiff City. Fair enough, shit happens.??? hmmmmm.

However... he didnt lead us to believe it was HIS money that paid for Kav, Thorne
etc etc... he actually told us it was his money time and time again. Im the one
who will end up skint folks blah blah blah... the biggest liar we have had here as a Chairman
EVER. Even Ridsdale pales into significance over that monumental lie.

So this mans reckless spending and carefree attitude was NOT the actions of a feller who had
found his 'family'...... nope...cos he always knew that he'd be coming back for HIS money one
day

So Sam is a liar with history.

Last time, he pulled the plug on a deal with Cardiff City at the last minute and forced them
to give him an extra 500k (there's a decent player right there folks)

This time.. its FIVE MILLION. Listen there was no mention of this extra 5 over the last few
weeks... it was all "Sam wants to live on the beach, he is such a huge fan, he will walk away
for TEN.......Three weeks later its FIFTEEN.

I cannot believe so many are falling for this.

Sam is shitting himself. He cannot hang on for years. He has not got a leg to stand on. He
told us all a few weeks back that TEN was his walk away figure. Why the f**k would the
Club give him FIFTEEN now? You can bet its not just Tan either.. I bet that whole boardroom
are quietly telling him to hold firm. The debt to equity issue will or will not happen. But it is
NOT dependant on Sam Hammam going. For fucks sake, of course it isn't. Its a huge huge
issue for the Club, our future, our future security. Its in Tans hands, like it or not, hes the
man who can make or break us

Now... sounds like people are ready to start protesting on behalf of Sam Hammam

Day in day out you are all being fed 'The Truth" on here........

But its Sams truth. Sam "i am spending all my own money until i am fucked" Hammam.

Think about it.

Think about this too...

I've not mentioned the word "Langstone" ONCE in the above post. How many noticed?
None of you? Of course not, because deep down, we all know Langstone is Sam

Adios

Taffy you say he has no leg to stand on but why would he be getting offered anything if this is the case, so the next time your loan, mortgage or cc repayments are due tell them to f**k off even though its been payed before montly by yourself, Why would you pay for something you had on tick even better why would these people want THERE money back, i bet you would pay it if it was 1/3 of what it was supposed to be and you had the full figure there in one lump sum would this not be in your best intrest or would you come up with some cock and bullshit story with the logic of it does not need to be payed no matter what. Most fans went with this rebrand with the belief we would become a debt free club (which was the biggest thing here for our clubs future) but the hard facts are we have had the rebrand and we have untill today to pay for something which is owed at a reduced rate or come tomorrow we it might end up three times this amount and we are still not debt free but owe much more.

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Couldnt resist posting on this. I must be like the Pro-Cardiff City
version of Roath Magic

Sam Hammam ran up a debt of tens of millions when he was the gaffer at
Cardiff City. Fair enough, shit happens.??? hmmmmm.

However... he didnt lead us to believe it was HIS money that paid for Kav, Thorne
etc etc... he actually told us it was his money time and time again. Im the one
who will end up skint folks blah blah blah... the biggest liar we have had here as a Chairman
EVER. Even Ridsdale pales into significance over that monumental lie.

So this mans reckless spending and carefree attitude was NOT the actions of a feller who had
found his 'family'...... nope...cos he always knew that he'd be coming back for HIS money one
day

So Sam is a liar with history.

Last time, he pulled the plug on a deal with Cardiff City at the last minute and forced them
to give him an extra 500k (there's a decent player right there folks)

This time.. its FIVE MILLION. Listen there was no mention of this extra 5 over the last few
weeks... it was all "Sam wants to live on the beach, he is such a huge fan, he will walk away
for TEN.......Three weeks later its FIFTEEN.

I cannot believe so many are falling for this.

Sam is shitting himself. He cannot hang on for years. He has not got a leg to stand on. He
told us all a few weeks back that TEN was his walk away figure. Why the f**k would the
Club give him FIFTEEN now? You can bet its not just Tan either.. I bet that whole boardroom
are quietly telling him to hold firm. The debt to equity issue will or will not happen. But it is
NOT dependant on Sam Hammam going. For fucks sake, of course it isn't. Its a huge huge
issue for the Club, our future, our future security. Its in Tans hands, like it or not, hes the
man who can make or break us

Now... sounds like people are ready to start protesting on behalf of Sam Hammam

Day in day out you are all being fed 'The Truth" on here........

But its Sams truth. Sam "i am spending all my own money until i am fucked" Hammam.

Think about it.

Think about this too...

I've not mentioned the word "Langstone" ONCE in the above post. How many noticed?
None of you? Of course not, because deep down, we all know Langstone is Sam

Adios

TaffyApple in my opinion you are bang on , I am fed up to the back teeth of seeing all this one sided bullshit , when no-one or in fact very few know what plan VT has and why he is holding out .
ALL THIS PROPOGANDA , when Carl "knows the Truth" , how can he when he only has Sams or Annis Version.
I have no axe to grind with any of them , but Carl , Can you please stop saying you will tell the truth when you only have one sides version of the argument. Unless you have been present at the meetings that have taken place and DO know both sides ,in which case I apologise unreservedly.
you know what if i was VT , i would not pay and go to court. Unless he settled for the £10 million , then I would do the deal and get rid of this bollox once and for all.

Surprise Surprise No deal with Langston how many times have we heard a deal is imminent only to be informed the goal posts have been moved AGAIN!

Two strong individuals playing brinkmanship with the future of OUR CLUB at stake and baisically we can do f**k all about it. I am not ITK so don't know exactly what is going on but we only seem to have ONE side of the story because i doubt very much that VT became a billionaire by revealling his strategy to anyone outside his very closest confidantes and advisors.

Don't know the truth and like everyone else i just wish it was settled but has i am unable to do anything about it so i will get on with the one thing i can do and that is supporting Malky and the players come what may!

BUT am i right in saying that Sams debts are unsecured and Vt are secured?

Couldnt resist posting on this. I must be like the Pro-Cardiff City
version of Roath Magic

Sam Hammam ran up a debt of tens of millions when he was the gaffer at
Cardiff City. Fair enough, shit happens.??? hmmmmm.

However... he didnt lead us to believe it was HIS money that paid for Kav, Thorne
etc etc... he actually told us it was his money time and time again. Im the one
who will end up skint folks blah blah blah... the biggest liar we have had here as a Chairman
EVER. Even Ridsdale pales into significance over that monumental lie.

So this mans reckless spending and carefree attitude was NOT the actions of a feller who had
found his 'family'...... nope...cos he always knew that he'd be coming back for HIS money one
day

So Sam is a liar with history.

Last time, he pulled the plug on a deal with Cardiff City at the last minute and forced them
to give him an extra 500k (there's a decent player right there folks)

This time.. its FIVE MILLION. Listen there was no mention of this extra 5 over the last few
weeks... it was all "Sam wants to live on the beach, he is such a huge fan, he will walk away
for TEN.......Three weeks later its FIFTEEN.

I cannot believe so many are falling for this.

Sam is shitting himself. He cannot hang on for years. He has not got a leg to stand on. He
told us all a few weeks back that TEN was his walk away figure. Why the f**k would the
Club give him FIFTEEN now? You can bet its not just Tan either.. I bet that whole boardroom
are quietly telling him to hold firm. The debt to equity issue will or will not happen. But it is
NOT dependant on Sam Hammam going. For fucks sake, of course it isn't. Its a huge huge
issue for the Club, our future, our future security. Its in Tans hands, like it or not, hes the
man who can make or break us

Now... sounds like people are ready to start protesting on behalf of Sam Hammam

Day in day out you are all being fed 'The Truth" on here........

But its Sams truth. Sam "i am spending all my own money until i am fucked" Hammam.

Think about it.

Think about this too...

I've not mentioned the word "Langstone" ONCE in the above post. How many noticed?
None of you? Of course not, because deep down, we all know Langstone is Sam

Adios

AMEN !!

Call his bluff I say and let it go to court in 2016. Sam Hammam has been one big lead weight around the neck of Cardiff City Football Club. Be glad to get rid of him to be honest but if it needs to go to court so be it. The best lawyer will win pmsl. Guess who will have the best lawyer? The man with the deepest pockets . Just wish this site would stop being used as a mouthpiece for Sam. Its supposed to be a football forum not a propaganda column for a Lebanese businessman long since gone in the history of our club. Listen he fecked things up financially he has to pay the consequences, not our club. Let it go to court, stop talking about the man and lets get back to talking about the thing that matters i.e football - This is a football forum isn't it?

My only comments on all this is and I will not be commenting anymore on the subject for now.


So far all that has happened in the last 2yrs our debt has increased to well over £83 mill and our identity stripped from us.
We have been promised now for well over a year that the loans will be turned in to Shares, this was promised at the last Shareholders meetings, as yet this has not happened, plus this is the 3rd year that promotion has been promised(at the Shareholders meetings) by TG. Now a lot of our fans have only accepted the rebranding on the condition of a debt free club, we shall await the out come.

Many say call Sams bluff go to court, some Say Forenstic accountants,some say let Vt deal with him he is so powerful. Hmm

I have not got a clue as to who is right or wrong but it appears that they are both as bad as each other for their own reasons

I posted on here a while back and said that this forum is being used as a propaganda tool for sam and he would do anything to to remain involved in this club and my post got deleted ,shoot me down if you want but i told you so ,it dont help neither when when some fans are helping him to do it for there own means ,delete my post again if you want but you know i am right .

Couldnt resist posting on this. I must be like the Pro-Cardiff City
version of Roath Magic

Sam Hammam ran up a debt of tens of millions when he was the gaffer at
Cardiff City. Fair enough, shit happens.??? hmmmmm.

However... he didnt lead us to believe it was HIS money that paid for Kav, Thorne
etc etc... he actually told us it was his money time and time again. Im the one
who will end up skint folks blah blah blah... the biggest liar we have had here as a Chairman
EVER. Even Ridsdale pales into significance over that monumental lie.

So this mans reckless spending and carefree attitude was NOT the actions of a feller who had
found his 'family'...... nope...cos he always knew that he'd be coming back for HIS money one
day

So Sam is a liar with history.

Last time, he pulled the plug on a deal with Cardiff City at the last minute and forced them
to give him an extra 500k (there's a decent player right there folks)

This time.. its FIVE MILLION. Listen there was no mention of this extra 5 over the last few
weeks... it was all "Sam wants to live on the beach, he is such a huge fan, he will walk away
for TEN.......Three weeks later its FIFTEEN.

I cannot believe so many are falling for this.

Sam is shitting himself. He cannot hang on for years. He has not got a leg to stand on. He
told us all a few weeks back that TEN was his walk away figure. Why the f**k would the
Club give him FIFTEEN now? You can bet its not just Tan either.. I bet that whole boardroom
are quietly telling him to hold firm. The debt to equity issue will or will not happen. But it is
NOT dependant on Sam Hammam going. For fucks sake, of course it isn't. Its a huge huge
issue for the Club, our future, our future security. Its in Tans hands, like it or not, hes the
man who can make or break us

Now... sounds like people are ready to start protesting on behalf of Sam Hammam

Day in day out you are all being fed 'The Truth" on here........

But its Sams truth. Sam "i am spending all my own money until i am fucked" Hammam.

Think about it.

Think about this too...

I've not mentioned the word "Langstone" ONCE in the above post. How many noticed?
None of you? Of course not, because deep down, we all know Langstone is Sam

Adios

Absolutely bang on post !!


It was quoted by a few people, even Annis quoted it as £10 million and now all of a sudden an extra £5 million has been added?

I'm absolutely f*cking sick of my club being held to ransom by this Lebanese crook !!!!!

I posted on here a while back and said that this forum is being used as a propaganda tool for sam and he would do anything to to remain involved in this club and my post got deleted ,shoot me down if you want but i told you so ,it dont help neither when when some fans are helping him to do it for there own means ,delete my post again if you want but you know i am right .

Spot on. There is certainly an element of our support (mainly Gwyn) who are still acting in the best interests of Sam and have tried to stop any sort of protest because Sam thinks it will jeopardise the Langston deal.I have no doubt if it was in Sam's best interests to have protests now,then these individuals would already be planning one as we speak. The longer it takes for the Langston deal to conclude then the more ridiculous their position becomes.

I knew this would happen. Thats it now, I'm no longer reluctantly accepting red.

KCB campaign here I come. I gave them time to sort this debt out, they've gone back on it so now I'm peeved.

Some of the posts on here are pathetic, get it in your head we are red for the coming season, and they are trying to deal with the debt, this is way over your and my head. If it was me I wouldn't give Sam a penny, we should have gone into receivership a long time ago to sort this mess out, but hey it would have given all the negative posters on here more ammunition to fire.

Carl every time this subject rears its head you always seem to fight Sams corner which is all fair and well and you seem to have a tad amount of validity but you seem to go into denial when the hard facts are rebounded back to yourself ...............WHAT ABOUT THE THOUSANDS OF WIMBLEDON FANS........yourself and a few others so con here with some clout never ever mention that debacle and you behave liked it never happened ? c'mon Carl ,Sam is not the nice guy you are trying to project him has you know as well as the resat of us the uproar with the rebranding on here well i would rather be red than have my ground raised for a supermarket where no money was reinvested in the club then moved 40 odd miles from your doorstep ! now thats what i call well amd truely being shafted so how can Sam make out he is a true fooball lover ?.

My only comments on all this is and I will not be commenting anymore on the subject for now.


So far all that has happened in the last 2yrs our debt has increased to well over £83 mill and our identity stripped from us.
We have been promised now for well over a year that the loans will be turned in to Shares, this was promised at the last Shareholders meetings, as yet this has not happened, plus this is the 3rd year that promotion has been promised(at the Shareholders meetings) by TG. Now a lot of our fans have only accepted the rebranding on the condition of a debt free club, we shall await the out come.

Many say call Sams bluff go to court, some Say Forenstic accountants,some say let Vt deal with him he is so powerful. Hmm

Annis,
even you must have had a titfull of all this.., surely it needs sorting once and for all.
It would be very interesting to have both sides of the argument, but thats probably never going to happen.
Thats why I think that they may as well take the gloves off and go head to head and sort it once and for all., otherwise we have another 3 to 4 years of this bollox.
Steve

Surprise Surprise No deal with Langston how many times have we heard a deal is imminent only to be informed the goal posts have been moved AGAIN!

Two strong individuals playing brinkmanship with the future of OUR CLUB at stake and baisically we can do f**k all about it. I am not ITK so don't know exactly what is going on but we only seem to have ONE side of the story because i doubt very much that VT became a billionaire by revealling his strategy to anyone outside his very closest confidantes and advisors.

Don't know the truth and like everyone else i just wish it was settled but has i am unable to do anything about it so i will get on with the one thing i can do and that is supporting Malky and the players come what may!

Too much is being made of this issue in my opinion. But only by Sam Hammam cos he's desperate.
'The future of our club'???.... well. Debt or equity? either way we will still owe Vincent Tan tens
of millions. As owner/sole/majority shareholder or whatever, he would be in a position to sell
all our best players, our manager, out training facilities, our ground... then put the proceeds back
into his own pocket. Who could stop him? He could do anything he wanted. In fact, with his money
tied up in equity.. he'd have more chance of getting more money back if he decided to f**k off.

Its being twisted now to sound as though Langstone is the only thing standing in the way of the
debt to equity deal. is it f**k. Its being made to sound like unless Sam is paid off in the next day
or two, the debt to equity will never happen. Bollocks. Sam will be made to wait, every time he
gets more 'media coverage' he weakens his own position. Do people HONESTLY believe that if no
deal is done today then thats it????

Tan has acted like a tw*t over the rebranding. But is doing nothing wrong right now. He is acting
for Cardiff City FC. He does not rush things. Sam has played right into his hands. Next week, next
month... whenever. Sam will swallow his pride and admit he has met his match. Cardiff City will
be the ones who benefit... by 5m

Support the Manager, the players, the Club. DO NOT alienate Tan. We need him to realise the error
of his ways and change back to Blue next season. I shit myself when i imagine anyone booing him
in a few weeks. Counter-productive as f**k. We need to learn a bit of patience too.

Surprise Surprise No deal with Langston how many times have we heard a deal is imminent only to be informed the goal posts have been moved AGAIN!

Two strong individuals playing brinkmanship with the future of OUR CLUB at stake and baisically we can do f**k all about it. I am not ITK so don't know exactly what is going on but we only seem to have ONE side of the story because i doubt very much that VT became a billionaire by revealling his strategy to anyone outside his very closest confidantes and advisors.

Don't know the truth and like everyone else i just wish it was settled but has i am unable to do anything about it so i will get on with the one thing i can do and that is supporting Malky and the players come what may!

Too much is being made of this issue in my opinion. But only by Sam Hammam cos he's desperate.
'The future of our club'???.... well. Debt or equity? either way we will still owe Vincent Tan tens
of millions. As owner/sole/majority shareholder or whatever, he would be in a position to sell
all our best players, our manager, out training facilities, our ground... then put the proceeds back
into his own pocket. Who could stop him? He could do anything he wanted. In fact, with his money
tied up in equity.. he'd have more chance of getting more money back if he decided to f**k off.

Its being twisted now to sound as though Langstone is the only thing standing in the way of the
debt to equity deal. is it f**k. Its being made to sound like unless Sam is paid off in the next day
or two, the debt to equity will never happen. Bollocks. Sam will be made to wait, every time he
gets more 'media coverage' he weakens his own position. Do people HONESTLY believe that if no
deal is done today then thats it????

Tan has acted like a tw*t over the rebranding. But is doing nothing wrong right now. He is acting
for Cardiff City FC. He does not rush things. Sam has played right into his hands. Next week, next
month... whenever. Sam will swallow his pride and admit he has met his match. Cardiff City will
be the ones who benefit... by 5m

Support the Manager, the players, the Club. DO NOT alienate Tan. We need him to realise the error
of his ways and change back to Blue next season. I shit myself when i imagine anyone booing him
in a few weeks. Counter-productive as f**k. We need to learn a bit of patience too.

That is the best post i have read since coming back on here, well said Taffyapple

At the moment Cardiff City F.C hold the debt and not VT as he is noy yet majority shareholder.He could call Hammams bluff and wait til 2016 or simply he knows Langstone will have to accept what he offers as they might end up with nowt

Wrong.

The debt is due today and has been for at least 18 months.

As PTB said if VT is calling the shots then he should start firing.

I accepted the rebranding for the promise of a debt free club, not necessarily a PL club but certainly a debt free one regardless of our league standing.

Week by week the offers to settle Langston have risen but the structure of payment has changed as well.

But remember these words when I decide to tell the truth of the past few weeks, as much as the figures involved are massive and important to concluding a deal, the debt to equity swap IS the most important and deciding factor of the negotiations.

I think the last paragraph is the most interesting piece in this thread
Now I'm not pro Sam or pro VT but it seems to me they are about the same but there is bigger amounts of millions involved now
I'm more worried about the club itself are we going to see debt to equity ?
VT had forensic accounts in and hasn't told Sam to do one so he must have a case against the club.
VT loans are bigger and secured against club.
Has the rebranding been a sidetrack so everyone argues about colours and miss the big picture
Red or blue I just want Cardiff city to survive

bluebird 1977 you keep coming back on here spouteing total crap ...not once have you quoted the true deal sam wants ....10 mill plus 5 mill bonus ...you keep saying vt said he put 10 mill aside so give it to them ..ffs they wont except 10 mill with out the 5 mill bonus ...get it into your think scull before saying anything else .....now who owes sam / langstone not vt / malysians its actually owed by cardiff city .....so let sam /langstone get it from who owes it .....or maybe every one should shut up about things they know fu.k all about ....also i have never seen any quotes from the malaysians stateing any time limits on making ccfc debt free .....as most on here you seem to wont everything done yesterday .....leave the malaysians alone to continue doing the great job they started ...and show some support for our POTENTIAL owners

Agree welshjon

At the moment Cardiff City F.C hold the debt and not VT as he is noy yet majority shareholder.He could call Hammams bluff and wait til 2016 or simply he knows Langstone will have to accept what he offers as they might end up with nowt

Wrong.


The debt is due today and has been for at least 18 months.

As PTB said if VT is calling the shots then he should start firing.

I accepted the rebranding for the promise of a debt free club, not necessarily a PL club but certainly a debt free one regardless of our league standing.

Week by week the offers to settle Langston have risen but the structure of payment has changed as well.

But remember these words when I decide to tell the truth of the past few weeks, as much as the figures involved are massive and important to concluding a deal, the debt to equity swap IS the most important and deciding factor of the negotiations.

It looks like neither side has a clear cut win case in court.
If one side had the guaranteed win they would take all.
Remember also Sam could lose if he did win in Court and club went into administration.
If i was owner, for more than 10 million i would go into administration, then build a new team using the money for players, in lower division to go for gold.
Sam has constantly lied to us, moved goal posts and schemed to make money out of us.
He talks the friend talk, whilst stealing from your pockets.

Sam is not a good business man, he is an excellent crook and conman.

Langston and Sam are same thing - until some of you get a grasp on that, you will never see whats gone on.

VT agreed with sam 10m now the crook asks for 50% more 15m.
What if he asked for 50m tomorrow? Would you still tell VT to pay him.

There is X amount for the clubs future
10m out of that amount was agreed for dept.
Now at least extra 5m is asked for out of that X amount.

Not just 5m out of VT, thats your money from your club that Sam is trying to rob.
So if we pay it, lose Whittingham, or do not sign a quality player you wanted because sam had extra 5 Million then don't moan at VT.

Fight Sam all the way, infact give him 10 days to take the 10m, or offer drops to 8m. See him in Court, lets prove he was Langston and make him sing for his money.

Message for Sam - Take the agreed 10m and walk away looking something like a business man, or see you in Court, showing exactly what a two faced liar and crook you are and get nothing. Stand tall and admit Langston is You.

My only comments on all this is and I will not be commenting anymore on the subject for now.


So far all that has happened in the last 2yrs our debt has increased to well over £83 mill and our identity stripped from us.
We have been promised now for well over a year that the loans will be turned in to Shares, this was promised at the last Shareholders meetings, as yet this has not happened, plus this is the 3rd year that promotion has been promised(at the Shareholders meetings) by TG. Now a lot of our fans have only accepted the rebranding on the condition of a debt free club, we shall await the out come.

Many say call Sams bluff go to court, some Say Forenstic accountants,some say let Vt deal with him he is so powerful. Hmm

Surely the laons into shares and evrything else is based on Sam debt being settled - thats what everyone has been saying

My only comments on all this is and I will not be commenting anymore on the subject for now.


So far all that has happened in the last 2yrs our debt has increased to well over £83 mill and our identity stripped from us.
We have been promised now for well over a year that the loans will be turned in to Shares, this was promised at the last Shareholders meetings, as yet this has not happened, plus this is the 3rd year that promotion has been promised(at the Shareholders meetings) by TG. Now a lot of our fans have only accepted the rebranding on the condition of a debt free club, we shall await the out come.

Many say call Sams bluff go to court, some Say Forenstic accountants,some say let Vt deal with him he is so powerful. Hmm

Annis,
even you must have had a titfull of all this.., surely it needs sorting once and for all.

It would be very interesting to have both sides of the argument, but thats probably never going to happen.
Thats why I think that they may as well take the gloves off and go head to head and sort it once and for all., otherwise we have another 3 to 4 years of this bollox.
Steve

Steve,

I am totally fed up of it all and all I want is what is good for Cardiff City.
But I think once again Taffy apple going to be in for a shock.

bluebird 1977 you keep coming back on here spouteing total crap.Oh yea its a messageboard for fans to speak or are you not here speaking the same crap
not once have you quoted the true deal sam wants
I have but seems that you missed it and the expert here lets us all know the fine details in this thread
10 mill plus 5 mill bonus.
I see your the 1st to mention this figure in here good job
you keep saying vt said he put 10 mill aside so give it to them.
Yes thats what he said in his rebrand breakdown for all to see or is this made up
ffs they wont except 10 mill with out the 5 mill bonus.
Ok then.
get it into your think scull before saying anything else.
reported name calling 1st person in this thread it seems
now who owes sam / langstone not vt / malysians its actually owed by cardiff city.
Oh yea the same cardiff city VT wants total control over but without this sorted he will not beable to yet you call me thick
so let sam /langstone get it from who owes it.
We have been saying this shit for years
or maybe every one should shut up about things they know fu.k all about.
Agreed close all ccfc message boards, never let the media again talk about this subject again and it will go away forever
also i have never seen any quotes from the malaysians stateing any time limits on making ccfc debt free.
Clearly you have not read Vt breakdown on his public statement on the rebrand investment then.
as most on here you seem to wont everything done yesterday.
Not at all the point is we was told on here that if by the 31st of july the deal is not sorted then it might go back to the full amount
leave the malaysians alone to continue doing the great job they started and show some support for our POTENTIAL owners

Where am i slagging them off??? this is a subject that will only get resolved by the malaysians
Another thing lots of people have said the same thing even carl said "my sentiments also" to the same type of post i put in here i do not see you gobbing off at him only making brown nose threads wishing him a good holiday. Some people huh :ayatollah: