WHAT IF THE JACKS DID IT

I spent Thursday night in a bar in Glasgow and got talking to some serious Rangers supporters. All five of them, to a man, said they are very jealous of Cardiff's investment, and when they compared our future to that of Rangers, one of them said to me "Taff, I'd give my right arm to have a debate about shirt colour - all we talk about is survival! up here" - it just put a different slant on things for me!!!

Shhhh. That can't be said around here as the anti-reds will swear that would never happen to us. The Rangers situation us a massive eye opener that still gets ignored

What utter nonsense!!!

We have the potential to do a Rangers wether we are in blue or red. The fact we pay average players like Kenny Miller 25k a week will be our downfall, and a red kit isnt going to change that.

You pay Miller 25k a week?? Dear god.

I spent Thursday night in a bar in Glasgow and got talking to some serious Rangers supporters. All five of them, to a man, said they are very jealous of Cardiff's investment, and when they compared our future to that of Rangers, one of them said to me "Taff, I'd give my right arm to have a debate about shirt colour - all we talk about is survival! up here" - it just put a different slant on things for me!!!

Shhhh. That can't be said around here as the anti-reds will swear that would never happen to us. The Rangers situation us a massive eye opener that still gets ignored

What utter nonsense!!!

We have the potential to do a Rangers wether we are in blue or red. The fact we pay average players like Kenny Miller 25k a week will be our downfall, and a red kit isnt going to change that.

Here we go again. Having the Malatsians on board keeps us in a better position than if they were to leave. And don't give me all this naive crap about oh but they said they would have stayed anyway. Changing the angle, I think miller would have scored more if we created more chances but in the main he had to feed of scraps. Let's see what he does next season before writing him off

I spent Thursday night in a bar in Glasgow and got talking to some serious Rangers supporters. All five of them, to a man, said they are very jealous of Cardiff's investment, and when they compared our future to that of Rangers, one of them said to me "Taff, I'd give my right arm to have a debate about shirt colour - all we talk about is survival! up here" - it just put a different slant on things for me!!!

Shhhh. That can't be said around here as the anti-reds will swear that would never happen to us. The Rangers situation us a massive eye opener that still gets ignored

What utter nonsense!!!

We have the potential to do a Rangers wether we are in blue or red. The fact we pay average players like Kenny Miller 25k a week will be our downfall, and a red kit isnt going to change that.

You pay Miller 25k a week?? Dear god.

Oh its ok, we can afford to throw that kind of money down the drain on players who went get us promoted because we play in red now. Answer to all our problems.

I spent Thursday night in a bar in Glasgow and got talking to some serious Rangers supporters. All five of them, to a man, said they are very jealous of Cardiff's investment, and when they compared our future to that of Rangers, one of them said to me "Taff, I'd give my right arm to have a debate about shirt colour - all we talk about is survival! up here" - it just put a different slant on things for me!!!

Shhhh. That can't be said around here as the anti-reds will swear that would never happen to us. The Rangers situation us a massive eye opener that still gets ignored

What utter nonsense!!!

We have the potential to do a Rangers wether we are in blue or red. The fact we pay average players like Kenny Miller 25k a week will be our downfall, and a red kit isnt going to change that.

Here we go again. Having the Malatsians on board keeps us in a better position than if they were to leave. And don't give me all this naive crap about oh but they said they would have stayed anyway. Changing the angle, I think miller would have scored more if we created more chances but in the main he had to feed of scraps. Let's see what he does next season before writing him off

Its not naive at all. They would never have walked away from 40 million. NEVER.

I spent Thursday night in a bar in Glasgow and got talking to some serious Rangers supporters. All five of them, to a man, said they are very jealous of Cardiff's investment, and when they compared our future to that of Rangers, one of them said to me "Taff, I'd give my right arm to have a debate about shirt colour - all we talk about is survival! up here" - it just put a different slant on things for me!!!

Shhhh. That can't be said around here as the anti-reds will swear that would never happen to us. The Rangers situation us a massive eye opener that still gets ignored

What utter nonsense!!!

We have the potential to do a Rangers wether we are in blue or red. The fact we pay average players like Kenny Miller 25k a week will be our downfall, and a red kit isnt going to change that.

Here we go again. Having the Malatsians on board keeps us in a better position than if they were to leave. And don't give me all this naive crap about oh but they said they would have stayed anyway. Changing the angle, I think miller would have scored more if we created more chances but in the main he had to feed of scraps. Let's see what he does next season before writing him off

Its not naive at all. They would never have walked away from 40 million. NEVER.

Like I said, naive.

You are naive if you think that red will bring success

Someone should tell you its not raining, VT is pissing down your back.

You are naive if you think that red will bring success

Someone should tell you its not raining, VT is pissing down your back.

Well see what success it brings but I know that our club will be very different going forward now than it would if VTs plan was scuppered. So ill take the looking up scenario instead of over our shoulder and heading down.

Only sunshine for me now so if you think it's raining perhaps it's all your tantrum tears

You are naive if you think that red will bring success

Someone should tell you its not raining, VT is pissing down your back.

Well see what success it brings but I know that our club will be very different going forward now than it would if VTs plan was scuppered. So ill take the looking up scenario instead of over our shoulder and heading down.

Only sunshine for me now so if you think it's raining perhaps it's all your tantrum tears

More assumptions from Comical Carpe

You are naive if you think that red will bring success

Someone should tell you its not raining, VT is pissing down your back.

Well see what success it brings but I know that our club will be very different going forward now than it would if VTs plan was scuppered. So ill take the looking up scenario instead of over our shoulder and heading down.

Only sunshine for me now so if you think it's raining perhaps it's all your tantrum tears

More assumptions from Comical Carpe

Whereas your not assuming anything as you know it all

You are naive if you think that red will bring success

Someone should tell you its not raining, VT is pissing down your back.

Well see what success it brings but I know that our club will be very different going forward now than it would if VTs plan was scuppered. So ill take the looking up scenario instead of over our shoulder and heading down.

Only sunshine for me now so if you think it's raining perhaps it's all your tantrum tears

More assumptions from Comical Carpe

Whereas your not assuming anything as you know it all

Its ok people, we are in red now, our problems are solved.

You are naive if you think that red will bring success

Someone should tell you its not raining, VT is pissing down your back.

Well see what success it brings but I know that our club will be very different going forward now than it would if VTs plan was scuppered. So ill take the looking up scenario instead of over our shoulder and heading down.

Only sunshine for me now so if you think it's raining perhaps it's all your tantrum tears

More assumptions from Comical Carpe

Whereas your not assuming anything as you know it all

Its ok people, we are in red now, our problems are solved.

Least I know what you look like. Similar to how I'd imagined. I look like brad Pitt so won't bother posting a pic

You have the least cynical fans i've ever come across.From Ridsdale/Hamann to the Malaysians.You'll believe anything that's fed to you and time and time again.if Gwyn or Vince Alm tells you everything will be fine then you take it as gospel.These people are no better than you,believe me.Just because they run a bus to away games and have followed 'the city' for years then you all think they're acting in the best interests of CCFC.The fact is they're acting in the best interests of Gwyn Davies and Vince Alm.

The Malaysians have got to these 2 individuals and,they both see that as a privelage that they're being consulted.They were the same with Hamann and,still are,even after everything he's done to your club.Almost ruined it,and still trying.Yet he's a wealthy famous business man and poor Davies and Alm are starstruck and prepared to put the future of your club at stake to massage their enormous egos.

'Sam phoned me yesterday' Woop a f*cking Doop. These so called 'fans leaders' are inadvertantly ruining your club and you need to be made aware of this,if you're not already.

Gwyn Davies and Alm are wolves in sheeps clothing

If the Jacks had done this rebrand thing as we are calling it, how would you really feel. Personally I would be gutted they had an investor behind them that could take them and make them into a long term top Premiership team.

I would be jealous as f**k, more jealous than them achieving promotion to the Premiership in the first place, if they had a colour or badge change it wouldn't mean a thing to me, but a billionaire backer would cut right through me.

Whilst some will have you believe other clubs fans are laughing at us, I bet there are a lot more watching us with a lot of envy and praying for a similar investor to help their clubs.

So I take it from this post you think we are jealous?
Oh please

Where did i say that, i said i'd be jealous if it was the other way around, to be honest fella I don't give a f**k how you feel, it's how i and my fellow City fans feel that concerns me.
In all honesty, in my eyes if you were top of the Premiership and we were bottom of the second, I would still see us as the bigger better the capital of Wales team.

What was it your old Chairman said, " If I had taken Cardiff City to the top division, we'd still be there now" Your fans let them down first time with your pitiful crowds and support, how long do you think they will stay this time.

The relevance of football in the early 80s when violence, fences, bent coppers, terraces, etc to now is questionable. We have a family stand sold out for years. And to be honest if you believe a side bottom of league 2 could be bigger than a side top of the PL then you really do need help. This capital lark tickles me have a look around europe and ask Barca, United, Milan, Celtic if it matters. You lot have had ideas of grandeur for years and yet bottle it, we know we are punching above our weight and are having a great time. Local club run by local people for local people. Proud to be a swan.

You didn,t quite finish your statement did you, let me do it for you :-

LOCAL CLUB RUN BY LOCAL PEOPLE FOR LOCAL PEOPLE WHO SHAFT LOCAL BUSINESSES. PROUD TO BE PART OF IT!!!!

If the Jacks had done this rebrand thing as we are calling it, how would you really feel. Personally I would be gutted they had an investor behind them that could take them and make them into a long term top Premiership team.

I would be jealous as f**k, more jealous than them achieving promotion to the Premiership in the first place, if they had a colour or badge change it wouldn't mean a thing to me, but a billionaire backer would cut right through me.

Whilst some will have you believe other clubs fans are laughing at us, I bet there are a lot more watching us with a lot of envy and praying for a similar investor to help their clubs.

So I take it from this post you think we are jealous?
Oh please

Where did i say that, i said i'd be jealous if it was the other way around, to be honest fella I don't give a f**k how you feel, it's how i and my fellow City fans feel that concerns me.
In all honesty, in my eyes if you were top of the Premiership and we were bottom of the second, I would still see us as the bigger better the capital of Wales team.

What was it your old Chairman said, " If I had taken Cardiff City to the top division, we'd still be there now" Your fans let them down first time with your pitiful crowds and support, how long do you think they will stay this time.

The relevance of football in the early 80s when violence, fences, bent coppers, terraces, etc to now is questionable. We have a family stand sold out for years. And to be honest if you believe a side bottom of league 2 could be bigger than a side top of the PL then you really do need help. This capital lark tickles me have a look around europe and ask Barca, United, Milan, Celtic if it matters. You lot have had ideas of grandeur for years and yet bottle it, we know we are punching above our weight and are having a great time. Local club run by local people for local people. Proud to be a swan.

You didn,t quite finish your statement did you, let me do it for you :-

LOCAL CLUB RUN BY LOCAL PEOPLE FOR LOCAL PEOPLE WHO SHAFT LOCAL BUSINESSES. PROUD TO BE PART OF IT!!!!

'Mare.

why would a jack be full of envy of ccfc?they seem to be well run these days.the jacks on here don,t expect them to be de-crowning man city any time soon so i,d say they are very realistic about their club.they have done really well and deserve credit for how they firstly got to the e.p.l and secondly for staying there.i support a club with debt and i can say hand on heart i,d rather start again than have what ccfc have been landed with.every 100 pound will cost you 107 and you have to change your kit for that proper sugar daddies like the shiek and abramovich have embraced their clubs cultures not smashed them.also a small amount of rangers fans may say they,d swap colours but in the main i doubt the vast majority would change colours.the current colours define rangers .this chucking money at things does not work unless your man city or chelsea and even then it does,nt work all the time.as a supporter of a team in the championship the plan of action i want at my club would certainly be the swansea model not the failed model been wheeled out at the ccs.my club were paying daft wages for our size last time in the prem.we had to get rid of them all last season except one who we couldn,t shift.the lad in question is nicola zigic.i love the big man but not at 50k pw in the champ our chairman has sold to balance the books.cardiff are still losing 1.2m a month.i may be wrong and if i am i will put my hands up and say so but it will end in tears imo.i,v yet to speak to one fan round here who thinks it,s good what tan has done.if this was happening at villa park far from been envious of it i,d be laughing at the fans herelding it but feeling for the vast majority who would be aghast at losing their colours.

why would a jack be full of envy of ccfc?they seem to be well run these days.the jacks on here don,t expect them to be de-crowning man city any time soon so i,d say they are very realistic about their club.they have done really well and deserve credit for how they firstly got to the e.p.l and secondly for staying there.i support a club with debt and i can say hand on heart i,d rather start again than have what ccfc have been landed with.every 100 pound will cost you 107 and you have to change your kit for that proper sugar daddies like the shiek and abramovich have embraced their clubs cultures not smashed them.also a small amount of rangers fans may say they,d swap colours but in the main i doubt the vast majority would change colours.the current colours define rangers .this chucking money at things does not work unless your man city or chelsea and even then it does,nt work all the time.as a supporter of a team in the championship the plan of action i want at my club would certainly be the swansea model not the failed model been wheeled out at the ccs.my club were paying daft wages for our size last time in the prem.we had to get rid of them all last season except one who we couldn,t shift.the lad in question is nicola zigic.i love the big man but not at 50k pw in the champ our chairman has sold to balance the books.cardiff are still losing 1.2m a month.i may be wrong and if i am i will put my hands up and say so but it will end in tears imo.i,v yet to speak to one fan round here who thinks it,s good what tan has done.if this was happening at villa park far from been envious of it i,d be laughing at the fans herelding it but feeling for the vast majority who would be aghast at losing their colours.

We've debated it's for what feels like a thousand years and gone full circle many times. The discussion will be more meaningful this time year next when we can judge on fact and not endless supposition. Time will be the judge my friend. Lot of banter on here so don't get too caught up in what's serious and what's fishing for bites.
All very boring now though.

why would a jack be full of envy of ccfc?they seem to be well run these days.the jacks on here don,t expect them to be de-crowning man city any time soon so i,d say they are very realistic about their club.they have done really well and deserve credit for how they firstly got to the e.p.l and secondly for staying there.i support a club with debt and i can say hand on heart i,d rather start again than have what ccfc have been landed with.every 100 pound will cost you 107 and you have to change your kit for that proper sugar daddies like the shiek and abramovich have embraced their clubs cultures not smashed them.also a small amount of rangers fans may say they,d swap colours but in the main i doubt the vast majority would change colours.the current colours define rangers .this chucking money at things does not work unless your man city or chelsea and even then it does,nt work all the time.as a supporter of a team in the championship the plan of action i want at my club would certainly be the swansea model not the failed model been wheeled out at the ccs.my club were paying daft wages for our size last time in the prem.we had to get rid of them all last season except one who we couldn,t shift.the lad in question is nicola zigic.i love the big man but not at 50k pw in the champ our chairman has sold to balance the books.cardiff are still losing 1.2m a month.i may be wrong and if i am i will put my hands up and say so but it will end in tears imo.i,v yet to speak to one fan round here who thinks it,s good what tan has done.if this was happening at villa park far from been envious of it i,d be laughing at the fans herelding it but feeling for the vast majority who would be aghast at losing their colours.

We've debated it's for what feels like a thousand years and gone full circle many times. The discussion will be more meaningful this time year next when we can judge on fact and not endless supposition. Time will be the judge my friend. Lot of banter on here so don't get too caught up in what's serious and what's fishing for bites.
All very boring now though.

yes,it,s all wait and see now .i have no probs with cardiff.hope you go up as long as it ain,t at our expense.k.r.o.

It gets worse....

ARE WE SERIOUSLY having a go at Swansea (even though nobody at the club currently had anything to do with that) for going into administration over sum of 800k more than a decade ago...

Wen we are trying to pay Sam Hammam £14 million LESS than what hes owed.

Unbelievable irony.

It gets worse....

ARE WE SERIOUSLY having a go at Swansea (even though nobody at the club currently had anything to do with that) for going into administration over sum of 800k more than a decade ago...

Wen we are trying to pay Sam Hammam £14 million LESS than what hes owed.

Unbelievable irony.

The difference is the money we supposedly owe Sam was what he spent of his own choice by gambling with the club. Personally I wish we could not pay him a penny. This isn't comparable to normal third party creditors who get stuffed when a club goes into admin now is it?

It gets worse....

ARE WE SERIOUSLY having a go at Swansea (even though nobody at the club currently had anything to do with that) for going into administration over sum of 800k more than a decade ago...

Wen we are trying to pay Sam Hammam £14 million LESS than what hes owed.

Unbelievable irony.

RoathMagic wrote:
Not wanting to put a dampener on this ridiculous thread but....

1) ''Mr Tans investment'' is in the majority to plug our losses for the next 12 months as well as consolidating our existing debts, dont think super powers in football are made by an investment of around £5-6 million in the playing staff

2) Swansea made £55 million last year and will make £55 million this year... If they go down they earn another £38 million... if the stay up they earn another £82 million with the new TV package = the minimum they would have earned in their visit to the Prem if it ended this year is £148 million - but in all likelyhood it will be £192 million + the £38 million parachute payments MORE THAN TWICE what Tan intends on investing and they can spend theirs on what they like. Do you really think they are jelous? Not to nention the fact they didnt have to change their badge, colours and nickname to achieve that cash they just got their head down and worked hard for it.

3) please can we stop embarassing ourselves.

thanks.

Jack,
nice maths and if your club is taking that much money how about doing the decent thing and fully re-paying all those creditors who were shafted at the time of administration? A start on paying some rent might also be appreciated by the local council tax payers who subsidise your occupation of the municipal stadium.


Jack,
sorry to see you back but now you have another cahnce to respond.

It gets worse....

ARE WE SERIOUSLY having a go at Swansea (even though nobody at the club currently had anything to do with that) for going into administration over sum of 800k more than a decade ago...

Wen we are trying to pay Sam Hammam £14 million LESS than what hes owed.

Unbelievable irony.

RoathMagic wrote:
Not wanting to put a dampener on this ridiculous thread but....

1) ''Mr Tans investment'' is in the majority to plug our losses for the next 12 months as well as consolidating our existing debts, dont think super powers in football are made by an investment of around £5-6 million in the playing staff

2) Swansea made £55 million last year and will make £55 million this year... If they go down they earn another £38 million... if the stay up they earn another £82 million with the new TV package = the minimum they would have earned in their visit to the Prem if it ended this year is £148 million - but in all likelyhood it will be £192 million + the £38 million parachute payments MORE THAN TWICE what Tan intends on investing and they can spend theirs on what they like. Do you really think they are jelous? Not to nention the fact they didnt have to change their badge, colours and nickname to achieve that cash they just got their head down and worked hard for it.

3) please can we stop embarassing ourselves.

thanks.

Jack,
nice maths and if your club is taking that much money how about doing the decent thing and fully re-paying all those creditors who were shafted at the time of administration? A start on paying some rent might also be appreciated by the local council tax payers who subsidise your occupation of the municipal stadium.


Jack,
sorry to see you back but now you have another chance to respond.

Last edited by C. Rombie-Coat on Sun Jul 01, 2012 4:26 pm, edited 1 time in total.

It gets worse....

ARE WE SERIOUSLY having a go at Swansea (even though nobody at the club currently had anything to do with that) for going into administration over sum of 800k more than a decade ago...

Wen we are trying to pay Sam Hammam £14 million LESS than what hes owed.

Unbelievable irony.

RoathMagic wrote:
Not wanting to put a dampener on this ridiculous thread but....

1) ''Mr Tans investment'' is in the majority to plug our losses for the next 12 months as well as consolidating our existing debts, dont think super powers in football are made by an investment of around £5-6 million in the playing staff

2) Swansea made £55 million last year and will make £55 million this year... If they go down they earn another £38 million... if the stay up they earn another £82 million with the new TV package = the minimum they would have earned in their visit to the Prem if it ended this year is £148 million - but in all likelyhood it will be £192 million + the £38 million parachute payments MORE THAN TWICE what Tan intends on investing and they can spend theirs on what they like. Do you really think they are jelous? Not to nention the fact they didnt have to change their badge, colours and nickname to achieve that cash they just got their head down and worked hard for it.

3) please can we stop embarassing ourselves.

thanks.

Jack,
nice maths and if your club is taking that much money how about doing the decent thing and fully re-paying all those creditors who were shafted at the time of administration? A start on paying some rent might also be appreciated by the local council tax payers who subsidise your occupation of the municipal stadium.


Jack,
sorry to see you back but now you have another cahnce to respond.

Someone needs to tell them that our club will gain more money from Premier League TV rights next season then will be invested by Vincent Tan in to Cardiff next season. We've already secured over £100 million from being in the Premier League for two years, when you account the guarenteed parachute payments. We already have the people at the club to make us a long term Premier League team. So really, you are jealous f**k at us, at the moment. To be honest, pretty much everyone of us shares the viewpoint of 12th Man. I haven't seen or spoke to any supporter who when I brought up the Cardiff re brand discussion didn't just laugh. What have we got to be jealous of? You signing Richard Keogh or Jordan Mutch? We wouldn't take either. You getting new training facilities? We're getting new training facilities. You getting a new stadium expansion? We have planned a new stadium expansion. The reality is that you sold your sole, and your club to some random Malaysian who is going to see the end of you. He sees Cardiff City as an opportunity to invest and to make money, that's why he made the investment to make a complete turn around in the clubs finances. Your not going to get that money back, you know it. Unless you are promoted, which is hardly something you can guarentee or expect, then your going to continue to make loses because you know that changing your shirt colour won't increase attendences or merchandise sales. Then there's the issue of FFP, which will start in 2013. If you don't go up next season, your truely fucked. At this stage Vincent Tan has to make a decision, the club aren't going to have the finances to pass FFP if they get promoted, carrying on with the way your current finances are working. Whilst i'm not doubting that he plans to invest the whole £100 million he's going to either have to decide to put his money where his mouth is, or continue investing unsustainably, and be punished by FFP. To get FFP off his back, he's can't continue to pay loans to Cardiff City, because the debt will not decrease, therefore FFP won't be pleased, so he'll have to actually invest his money which he won't be happy with. No equity shit. At this stage, when Cardiff start, invevitably, making small loses agai, he'll f**k off back to Malaysia and ask for his money that he leant 2010-2012 back and you'll be in a far worse situation then the likes of Portsmouth. How the f**k you think we'll be jealous of that is beyond me

Since when did we start selling fish, news to me you thick Jack tw*t

If the Jacks had done this rebrand thing as we are calling it, how would you really feel. Personally I would be gutted they had an investor behind them that could take them and make them into a long term top Premiership team.

I would be jealous as f**k, more jealous than them achieving promotion to the Premiership in the first place, if they had a colour or badge change it wouldn't mean a thing to me, but a billionaire backer would cut right through me.

Whilst some will have you believe other clubs fans are laughing at us, I bet there are a lot more watching us with a lot of envy and praying for a similar investor to help their clubs.

So I take it from this post you think we are jealous?
Oh please

Where did i say that, i said i'd be jealous if it was the other way around, to be honest fella I don't give a f**k how you feel, it's how i and my fellow City fans feel that concerns me.
In all honesty, in my eyes if you were top of the Premiership and we were bottom of the second, I would still see us as the bigger better the capital of Wales team.

What was it your old Chairman said, " If I had taken Cardiff City to the top division, we'd still be there now" Your fans let them down first time with your pitiful crowds and support, how long do you think they will stay this time.

The relevance of football in the early 80s when violence, fences, bent coppers, terraces, etc to now is questionable. We have a family stand sold out for years. And to be honest if you believe a side bottom of league 2 could be bigger than a side top of the PL then you really do need help. This capital lark tickles me have a look around europe and ask Barca, United, Milan, Celtic if it matters. You lot have had ideas of grandeur for years and yet bottle it, we know we are punching above our weight and are having a great time. Local club run by local people for local people. Proud to be a swan.

You didn,t quite finish your statement did you, let me do it for you :-

LOCAL CLUB RUN BY LOCAL PEOPLE FOR LOCAL PEOPLE WHO SHAFT LOCAL BUSINESSES. PROUD TO BE PART OF IT!!!!

'Mare.

Any idea how much our local businesses who agreed to a CVA were shafted by?

It gets worse....

ARE WE SERIOUSLY having a go at Swansea (even though nobody at the club currently had anything to do with that) for going into administration over sum of 800k more than a decade ago...

Wen we are trying to pay Sam Hammam £14 million LESS than what hes owed.

Unbelievable irony.

RoathMagic wrote:
Not wanting to put a dampener on this ridiculous thread but....

1) ''Mr Tans investment'' is in the majority to plug our losses for the next 12 months as well as consolidating our existing debts, dont think super powers in football are made by an investment of around £5-6 million in the playing staff

2) Swansea made £55 million last year and will make £55 million this year... If they go down they earn another £38 million... if the stay up they earn another £82 million with the new TV package = the minimum they would have earned in their visit to the Prem if it ended this year is £148 million - but in all likelyhood it will be £192 million + the £38 million parachute payments MORE THAN TWICE what Tan intends on investing and they can spend theirs on what they like. Do you really think they are jelous? Not to nention the fact they didnt have to change their badge, colours and nickname to achieve that cash they just got their head down and worked hard for it.

3) please can we stop embarassing ourselves.

thanks.

Jack,
nice maths and if your club is taking that much money how about doing the decent thing and fully re-paying all those creditors who were shafted at the time of administration? A start on paying some rent might also be appreciated by the local council tax payers who subsidise your occupation of the municipal stadium.


Jack,
sorry to see you back but now you have another cahnce to respond.

Hi Jack. I think what I wrote is a more than fair reply...

''It gets worse....

ARE WE SERIOUSLY having a go at Swansea (even though nobody at the club currently had anything to do with that) for going into administration over sum of 800k more than a decade ago...

Wen we are trying to pay Sam Hammam £14 million LESS than what hes owed.

Unbelievable irony. ''

It gets worse....

ARE WE SERIOUSLY having a go at Swansea (even though nobody at the club currently had anything to do with that) for going into administration over sum of 800k more than a decade ago...

Wen we are trying to pay Sam Hammam £14 million LESS than what hes owed.

Unbelievable irony.

RoathMagic wrote:
Not wanting to put a dampener on this ridiculous thread but....

1) ''Mr Tans investment'' is in the majority to plug our losses for the next 12 months as well as consolidating our existing debts, dont think super powers in football are made by an investment of around £5-6 million in the playing staff

2) Swansea made £55 million last year and will make £55 million this year... If they go down they earn another £38 million... if the stay up they earn another £82 million with the new TV package = the minimum they would have earned in their visit to the Prem if it ended this year is £148 million - but in all likelyhood it will be £192 million + the £38 million parachute payments MORE THAN TWICE what Tan intends on investing and they can spend theirs on what they like. Do you really think they are jelous? Not to nention the fact they didnt have to change their badge, colours and nickname to achieve that cash they just got their head down and worked hard for it.

3) please can we stop embarassing ourselves.

thanks.

Jack,
nice maths and if your club is taking that much money how about doing the decent thing and fully re-paying all those creditors who were shafted at the time of administration? A start on paying some rent might also be appreciated by the local council tax payers who subsidise your occupation of the municipal stadium.


How much did cardif council sell that prime bit of land where your new home is ?

It gets worse....

ARE WE SERIOUSLY having a go at Swansea (even though nobody at the club currently had anything to do with that) for going into administration over sum of 800k more than a decade ago...

Wen we are trying to pay Sam Hammam £14 million LESS than what hes owed.

Unbelievable irony.

RoathMagic wrote:
Not wanting to put a dampener on this ridiculous thread but....

1) ''Mr Tans investment'' is in the majority to plug our losses for the next 12 months as well as consolidating our existing debts, dont think super powers in football are made by an investment of around £5-6 million in the playing staff

2) Swansea made £55 million last year and will make £55 million this year... If they go down they earn another £38 million... if the stay up they earn another £82 million with the new TV package = the minimum they would have earned in their visit to the Prem if it ended this year is £148 million - but in all likelyhood it will be £192 million + the £38 million parachute payments MORE THAN TWICE what Tan intends on investing and they can spend theirs on what they like. Do you really think they are jelous? Not to nention the fact they didnt have to change their badge, colours and nickname to achieve that cash they just got their head down and worked hard for it.

3) please can we stop embarassing ourselves.

thanks.

Jack,
nice maths and if your club is taking that much money how about doing the decent thing and fully re-paying all those creditors who were shafted at the time of administration? A start on paying some rent might also be appreciated by the local council tax payers who subsidise your occupation of the municipal stadium.


Jack,
sorry to see you back but now you have another cahnce to respond.

Hi Jack. I think what I wrote is a more than fair reply...

''It gets worse....

ARE WE SERIOUSLY having a go at Swansea (even though nobody at the club currently had anything to do with that) for going into administration over sum of 800k more than a decade ago...

Wen we are trying to pay Sam Hammam £14 million LESS than what hes owed.

Unbelievable irony. ''

Just before I go to the pub.
You are avoiding a direct and proper response.
Are you saying that swansea city, the club that you support are not the club that went into admin and paid the creditors 1p in the £(AFAIR)?
Now flush with cash as you delightedly point out, is there not a moral responsibility on the part of the club to do the right thing by these creditors(with interest)?
What about halting the rip off of the local council tax payers and paying some rent (back rent with interest included)?

As to the jack epithet your multiple identities are confusing you.

It gets worse....

ARE WE SERIOUSLY having a go at Swansea (even though nobody at the club currently had anything to do with that) for going into administration over sum of 800k more than a decade ago...

Wen we are trying to pay Sam Hammam £14 million LESS than what hes owed.

Unbelievable irony.

RoathMagic wrote:
Not wanting to put a dampener on this ridiculous thread but....

1) ''Mr Tans investment'' is in the majority to plug our losses for the next 12 months as well as consolidating our existing debts, dont think super powers in football are made by an investment of around £5-6 million in the playing staff

2) Swansea made £55 million last year and will make £55 million this year... If they go down they earn another £38 million... if the stay up they earn another £82 million with the new TV package = the minimum they would have earned in their visit to the Prem if it ended this year is £148 million - but in all likelyhood it will be £192 million + the £38 million parachute payments MORE THAN TWICE what Tan intends on investing and they can spend theirs on what they like. Do you really think they are jelous? Not to nention the fact they didnt have to change their badge, colours and nickname to achieve that cash they just got their head down and worked hard for it.

3) please can we stop embarassing ourselves.

thanks.

Jack,
nice maths and if your club is taking that much money how about doing the decent thing and fully re-paying all those creditors who were shafted at the time of administration? A start on paying some rent might also be appreciated by the local council tax payers who subsidise your occupation of the municipal stadium.


Jack,
sorry to see you back but now you have another cahnce to respond.

Hi Jack. I think what I wrote is a more than fair reply...

''It gets worse....

ARE WE SERIOUSLY having a go at Swansea (even though nobody at the club currently had anything to do with that) for going into administration over sum of 800k more than a decade ago...

Wen we are trying to pay Sam Hammam £14 million LESS than what hes owed.

Unbelievable irony. ''

Just before I go to the pub.
You are avoiding a direct and proper response.
Are you saying that swansea city, the club that you support are not the club that went into admin and paid the creditors 1p in the £(AFAIR)?
Now flush with cash as you delightedly point out, is there not a moral responsibility on the part of the club to do the right thing by these creditors(with interest)?
What about halting the rip off of the local council tax payers and paying some rent (back rent with interest included)?

As to the jack epithet your multiple identities are confusing you.

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It gets worse....

ARE WE SERIOUSLY having a go at Swansea (even though nobody at the club currently had anything to do with that) for going into administration over sum of 800k more than a decade ago...

Wen we are trying to pay Sam Hammam £14 million LESS than what hes owed.

Unbelievable irony.

RoathMagic wrote:
Not wanting to put a dampener on this ridiculous thread but....

1) ''Mr Tans investment'' is in the majority to plug our losses for the next 12 months as well as consolidating our existing debts, dont think super powers in football are made by an investment of around £5-6 million in the playing staff

2) Swansea made £55 million last year and will make £55 million this year... If they go down they earn another £38 million... if the stay up they earn another £82 million with the new TV package = the minimum they would have earned in their visit to the Prem if it ended this year is £148 million - but in all likelyhood it will be £192 million + the £38 million parachute payments MORE THAN TWICE what Tan intends on investing and they can spend theirs on what they like. Do you really think they are jelous? Not to nention the fact they didnt have to change their badge, colours and nickname to achieve that cash they just got their head down and worked hard for it.

3) please can we stop embarassing ourselves.

thanks.

Jack,
nice maths and if your club is taking that much money how about doing the decent thing and fully re-paying all those creditors who were shafted at the time of administration? A start on paying some rent might also be appreciated by the local council tax payers who subsidise your occupation of the municipal stadium.


How much did cardif council sell that prime bit of land where your new home is ?

I'm running late but I'll give you some respect as by your moniker you may have done your bit.
Not sure of the numbers off hand but as part of the overall redevelopment the council got all sorts of goodies including the athletics stadium, road improvemnts etc. The CCS car park is also used as a park and ride car park and a bus terminus and the council let it off occasionally for other uses so whatever the deal it was no doubt a fair one.
Obviously from CCFC viewpoint however the virtual freehold of the stadium belongs to the club. It is not a municipal (or now even shared thank goodness)stadium where the club have to pay rent. If that were different however I am sure the club would meet it's renatal obligations and not rip off the local council tax payers.

It gets worse....

ARE WE SERIOUSLY having a go at Swansea (even though nobody at the club currently had anything to do with that) for going into administration over sum of 800k more than a decade ago...

Wen we are trying to pay Sam Hammam £14 million LESS than what hes owed.

Unbelievable irony.

RoathMagic wrote:
Not wanting to put a dampener on this ridiculous thread but....

1) ''Mr Tans investment'' is in the majority to plug our losses for the next 12 months as well as consolidating our existing debts, dont think super powers in football are made by an investment of around £5-6 million in the playing staff

2) Swansea made £55 million last year and will make £55 million this year... If they go down they earn another £38 million... if the stay up they earn another £82 million with the new TV package = the minimum they would have earned in their visit to the Prem if it ended this year is £148 million - but in all likelyhood it will be £192 million + the £38 million parachute payments MORE THAN TWICE what Tan intends on investing and they can spend theirs on what they like. Do you really think they are jelous? Not to nention the fact they didnt have to change their badge, colours and nickname to achieve that cash they just got their head down and worked hard for it.

3) please can we stop embarassing ourselves.

thanks.

Jack,
nice maths and if your club is taking that much money how about doing the decent thing and fully re-paying all those creditors who were shafted at the time of administration? A start on paying some rent might also be appreciated by the local council tax payers who subsidise your occupation of the municipal stadium.


How much did cardif council sell that prime bit of land where your new home is ?

I'm running late but I'll give you some respect as by your moniker you may have done your bit.
Not sure of the numbers off hand but as part of the overall redevelopment the council got all sorts of goodies including the athletics stadium, road improvemnts etc. The CCS car park is also used as a park and ride car park and a bus terminus and the council let it off occasionally for other uses so whatever the deal it was no doubt a fair one.
Obviously from CCFC viewpoint however the virtual freehold of the stadium belongs to the club. It is not a municipal (or now even shared thank goodness)stadium where the club have to pay rent. If that were different however I am sure the club would meet it's renatal obligations and not rip off the local council tax payers.