IRA

The IRA had every justification in taking up arms against Britain.

Who could blame them? Catholics were getting shat on in Ireland

But once they started bombing indiscriminately, killing innocent
people without a care in the World, they became scum.

Same as the Shankill butchers and the murdering protestant scum

the ira in the 20's had may proddie members

funny thing is, that those who voice their strong hatred of the IRA are very much pro-loyalist (terrorism). "Right or wrong - it's my country", eh?

i take offence to that hoff im a pro loyalist but im very much against the uvf, uff, etc
two wrongs dont make a right

NO matter which way you play it, The British were occupying and running S. Ireland ,and as true Irishmen they wanted to run them self's, and not be run by another country that were occupying them with a heavy hand. Like in Wales the British did there best to break them in all kinds of ways. And one of the things they did was try to stamp out the language. And stop Irish people in there own lands meeting in groups. Like Football games, and Rugby games anything kind of place where one Irishman could meet up with others. The Black & Tans were also encouraged to kill and rape, which they did with great gusto and pleasure even children. There is still a Stone by the side of a river near a bridge , where a little boy of 7 yrs of age was playing in the water. The Tans were around 500yrs down the river waiting to ambush a group of Irishmen. While they waited they were bored and started to see who could get the nearest to the little boy by shooting at him. They hit him more than once, great British men weren't they?
Now the tans were mostly made up of Scottish ex solider's so the British could point out that they were not English but Scottish men, again another way out to try to keep the name of the Englishman clean of blame.

When the English go into a country they will always say, its to protect, even they are in some others country,yet if the people of that very country fight back they label them as terrorist. It has to be asked , if people from another country is occupying a country and running it by force , THEN WHO IS THE TERRORIST ?

Who put two pound in you you Nazi c**t?

Serious get that MASSIVE chip off your shoulder. A relative of mine went out to Ireland as part of the BRITISH army during the troubles. He was Welsh, you sound like a f*cking scouser. Is there anything you don't blame the English for?

You're boring mate, there was an open minded debate with different opinions and no abuse and then you turn up hurling abuse, get a grip, go and tug or something for f**k sake mun! Too much aggression in you fella!

Says the one glorifying terrorism. You will be the first to cry when the "WRA" start bombing English speaking schools and what now.

Ban this c**t.

Where have I said anything about a WRA you fool! You're the only one that needs to be banned!

Delete this thread! f**k the RIRA, IRA, PIRA, INLA, CIRA, THE UFF, UVF, UDA and all the rest of the murdering gangsters.

NO matter which way you play it, The British were occupying and running S. Ireland ,and as true Irishmen they wanted to run them self's, and not be run by another country that were occupying them with a heavy hand. Like in Wales the British did there best to break them in all kinds of ways. And one of the things they did was try to stamp out the language. And stop Irish people in there own lands meeting in groups. Like Football games, and Rugby games anything kind of place where one Irishman could meet up with others. The Black & Tans were also encouraged to kill and rape, which they did with great gusto and pleasure even children. There is still a Stone by the side of a river near a bridge , where a little boy of 7 yrs of age was playing in the water. The Tans were around 500yrs down the river waiting to ambush a group of Irishmen. While they waited they were bored and started to see who could get the nearest to the little boy by shooting at him. They hit him more than once, great British men weren't they?
Now the tans were mostly made up of Scottish ex solider's so the British could point out that they were not English but Scottish men, again another way out to try to keep the name of the Englishman clean of blame.

When the English go into a country they will always say, its to protect, even they are in some others country,yet if the people of that very country fight back they label them as terrorist. It has to be asked , if people from another country is occupying a country and running it by force , THEN WHO IS THE TERRORIST ?

Who put two pound in you you Nazi c**t?

Serious get that MASSIVE chip off your shoulder. A relative of mine went out to Ireland as part of the BRITISH army during the troubles. He was Welsh, you sound like a f*cking scouser. Is there anything you don't blame the English for?

You're boring mate, there was an open minded debate with different opinions and no abuse and then you turn up hurling abuse, get a grip, go and tug or something for f**k sake mun! Too much aggression in you fella!

sorry mate this is not a debate you were just looking for a reaction
you came on here saying how great the ira were its like saying the nazis had the right idea or pedos are miss understood

your right the british goverment of the time ha blood on their hands but so did nearly every country in the world at the time
germany in africa
the usa with the indians, in the phillipines and cuba
france north africa and indochina
japan far east
the dutch in java

the list goes on and on, this is no excuse and im not saying it was right but it was the way it was

the irish problems are thank god in the history books
people who read or watch a film which bias to one side the spout crap about the ira need to take a long hard look in the mirror

I honestly wasnt looking for reaction, I was looking to learn more and I have in this thread! As I said many times I think the PIRA were cowards and disagree with them! However, I dont see why 1948 feels he has the right to abuse everyone!

I honestly wasnt looking for reaction, I was looking to learn more and I have in this thread! As I said many times I think the PIRA were cowards and disagree with them! However, I dont see why 1948 feels he has the right to abuse everyone!

coops, according to the reports we get here (and our army is in afghanistan too), the taliban emerged from the mudjahedin. this is accepted as a fact.

regarding ireland, i take a neutral stance, as in my opinion people are all the same, regardless if they are irish or northern irish, english, protestant, catholics etc
I know the british army got send to n.IRE as peacekeepers, but they hardly behaved as such. I went to northern ireland during the troubles to experience it myself. and I'm not an IRA supporter... I like Ireland, North and South...

my point is, it all comes down from which perspective you look at things. I always try to have at least 2 different views on things, try to imagine myself in a situation where i would be on both sides of a conflict.

to me the UDA/UVF etc are just as bad as the ones who bombed and killed innocent civilians. unfortunately in most cases just the one side is portrayed and shamed. and thats not the side your country, politicians etc stand on.

what sickens me is seeing politicians or leaders, who claim to do the best for their people, sending brave men and boys into wars they dont want to be in. WWII was the best example, as my 2 grandfathers had to serve in the Wehrmacht, altho they rather would have stayed home with their wives and kids. and i am sure 99.9% of the british, american, russian soldiers felt exactly the same.

I honestly wasnt looking for reaction, I was looking to learn more and I have in this thread! As I said many times I think the PIRA were cowards and disagree with them! However, I dont see why 1948 feels he has the right to abuse everyone!

Sound logic here.

Come on here glorifying terrorism and the murder of innocent children then say it's all someone elses fault for abusing people.

Nice.

Delete this thread! f**k the RIRA, IRA, PIRA, INLA, CIRA, THE UFF, UVF, UDA and all the rest of the murdering gangsters.

I agree on that, spot on

Mate, youre a joke, I havent glorified terrorists at all, I've condemned the PIRA and I dont class the originals as terrorists! Oh I forgot I'm not allowed and opinion as I'm young, jog on!

I'm not allowed an opinion as I'm young

Yeah, first time in 40 odd posts you've said something sensible.

also sad one cant share his opinion without someone else (with a different opinion) coming in throwing abuse. I was brought up to listen to different opinions and accepting those, as we dont live (and dont want) another dictatorship...

I honestly wasnt looking for reaction, I was looking to learn more and I have in this thread! As I said many times I think the PIRA were cowards and disagree with them! However, I dont see why 1948 feels he has the right to abuse everyone!

the ira were cowardly murderers as well the reason the black and tans (also murders) were brought in was to stem the killing innocent people. that proved to be a major f**k up by the british goverment

the bit where you stated wish wales had more drive pissed me off
wales had never been a united nation, most "rebels" have been gogs who have slaughtered people of the south who dont agree with their "cause"

Thanks mate, he's labelling people Nazi's yet he's the only acting remotely like one! I'm open to all opinions!

Mate, youre a joke, I havent glorified terrorists at all, I've condemned the PIRA and I dont class the originals as terrorists! Oh I forgot I'm not allowed and opinion as I'm young, jog on!

the originals were terrorist who comited murders of many innocent people

But mate, they got to their worst once the Black and tans came in and btw I am actually taking on board what you're saying, I want to learn more!

But mate, they got to their worst once the Black and tans came in and btw I am actually taking on board what you're saying, I want to learn more!

NOOOO...dont listen to him, mate...he's got some "strange" views...

sorry maesteg blue...

f**k the IRA ...Bomb throwing child murdering scum

And do you think the British are whiter than White? Known fact that the British were hand in glove with the unionist murder gangs giving them the guns and information for suspected people who had either political or sympathy for the struggle

But mate, they got to their worst once the Black and tans came in and btw I am actually taking on board what you're saying, I want to learn more!

yes they retaliated to the b and t's attrocities (my spelling is crap lol) but they were commiting their own long before they arrived

the cork murders of the proddies in 1921 caused a split in the ira in that area and there are stories of some ira members protecting their prod mate from ira commrades

f**k the IRA ...Bomb throwing child murdering scum

And do you think the British are whiter than White? Known fact that the British were hand in glove with the unionist murder gangs giving them the guns and information for suspected people who had either political or sympathy for the struggle

Who put ten pence in you?

I did read about that mate! The fact is gladly now the conflict is being solved by politics:) I just wanted different view points as having Irish (Catholic) family I had a slightly biased view! A decent thread really seeing different opinions yet 1948 turns up again!

I did read about that mate! The fact is gladly now the conflict is being solved by politics:) I just wanted different view points as having Irish (Catholic) family I had a slightly biased view! A decent thread really seeing different opinions yet 1948 turns up again!

everyone one out for their own good. anyone who plants bombs where there are innocent people are no good.

Known fact crime rate in catholic area was low compared to the rest of Britain as shitheads robbing etc were dealt with internally. as the police force was not trusted. So when you see a paddy in Liverpool with a limp don't trust him

But mate, they got to their worst once the Black and tans came in and btw I am actually taking on board what you're saying, I want to learn more!

NOOOO...dont listen to him, mate...he's got some "strange" views...

sorry maesteg blue...

mr hoff im only telling the truth

f**k the IRA ...Bomb throwing child murdering scum

And do you think the British are whiter than White? Known fact that the British were hand in glove with the unionist murder gangs giving them the guns and information for suspected people who had either political or sympathy for the struggle

there were big questions with the irish government and police in 70's early 80's as well but two wrongs don't make a right

both sides got it together and there is a lasting peace hopefully

What about the other people in Northern Ireland , that didnt want to be united with Ireland and wanted to stay a part of the uk? there are so many parts to this problem , i dont think it could ever be resolved , and as far as violence and terrorism is concerned , THERE ARE many stories that would make your hair curl. also a lot in the public domain from all sides involved in this conflict!!

Who in fact are the majority in Northern Ireland

The Catholics are not but it won't be long and it'll be Ireland with no
Northen in the title and let's. It say the Brits it was the English who
F**ked Ireland and half the world up