" TUESDAY MAY 15th 2012 MINI-UPDATE "

carl , thanks as usuall for the update, but what is the meaning of equity, do you mean shares,?holdings, ? where precisely is this money there giving us . is going in . or on the club?

IIf this is what it seems we've got to grab it with both hands and go along for the ride - the alternative does not bear thinking about !!!

Fair play, wasn't expecting such a good write up summary from the situationas it stands..........well done that man!

Really hard to pick any negatives out of any of it really.

"Son, I remember the week our club reaised it's potential and changed it's course of direction to become the biggest club in Britain"

Hopefully that'll be something I can say to him when we're there (no sprogs yet mind, but working on that!!)

Hopefully it will help others understand why we need Vincent Tan

Good write up carl but i await the negatives to come to light as there has to be a catch with all the things you mention. I know your only telling how it is from one side rite now due to it all ongoing but it will all come out in the wash as they say sooner or later

Bloody hell! You're a ray of sunshine. Take it for what it is at the moment, very good news.

thanks for the info carl have to say if this is the way forward for us to survive as a club grab it with both hands say i blue top is part of our history but if it means we prosper as a club that i can take my grandchildren too watching half decent football i would watch cardiff play in green and orange or any colour its not being a sellout judas etc history is something to be proud of but so is the prospect of having a future lets hope we can all look fprward to an exciting future

I'm excited about this. Sometime progress appears in unusual ways. If the investment is from China I can understand, for political reasons, why there is the preference to play in red.

If this comes off we will need a 50,000 seater stadium not a 35,000.

i cant believe after reading that and what VT etc is doing for this club and the fans that some clowns are still going on about what colour we are playing in.....ffs....i give up. my mate is a pompey fan says he wud happily go to every game naked if thats was there chosen strip next year. get over it. lets move on. Santa Tan

Fantastic news, but will we still be playing in Blue?

why?

Mmmm so VT not the dictator or not caring bout our club as some accused him of being.

well i never....

I would rather stay in blue but if playing in red means all of the above then im sorry red it is.

We wanted to get rid of the egg.....Tan does it
We wanted the statue of Keenor....Tan pays for it to be finished
We wanted big pics of players etc around ground.....Tan offers it
We want to be debt free.....Tan offers it
We want MM to have a good transfer budget....Tan offers it

He wants us to play in a different colour.....We racially abuse and threaten his children

Quite honestly, im ashamed of us.

Craig what a briliant way of putting it, couldn't have rotten it better!

I mean written it better, done on my I Pad.

Let''s all wait till TG. reports back to VT from the meeting Patience is needed. and let them explain all the facts ! Othewise expectations will run wild !

I mean written it better, done on my I Pad.

Lots of people say this, the ipad sounds awful

FFS I wouldn't swap my I Pad for anything, it was my fault for not checking what I'd wriitten, some of the apps are out standing.

I would rather stay in blue but if playing in red means all of the above then im sorry red it is.

We wanted to get rid of the egg.....Tan does it
We wanted the statue of Keenor....Tan pays for it to be finished
We wanted big pics of players etc around ground.....Tan offers it
We want to be debt free.....Tan offers it
We want MM to have a good transfer budget....Tan offers it

He wants us to play in a different colour.....We racially abuse and threaten his children

Quite honestly, im ashamed of us.

Amazing! Well said.
People complaining about what colour we'll be playing in next year... Does it really matter? It's just a kit! It will still be the same players underneath that kit. If it means so much to VT then so be it! If we want to compete with the best and be among the best, we need financial stability along with fans who are behind the club, not whining about what colour kit we'll be playing in. FFS if your that concerned take blue lenses to every game with you!

I would rather stay in blue but if playing in red means all of the above then im sorry red it is.

We wanted to get rid of the egg.....Tan does it
We wanted the statue of Keenor....Tan pays for it to be finished
We wanted big pics of players etc around ground.....Tan offers it
We want to be debt free.....Tan offers it
We want MM to have a good transfer budget....Tan offers it

He wants us to play in a different colour.....We racially abuse and threaten his children

Quite honestly, im ashamed of us.

No, "WE" did not racially abuse and threaten his children.
A couple of moronic Fukwits did that!

I'm against the colour change and badge change, though I wouldn't be averse to a larger more prominent dragon on the badge, alongside the bluebird. However, I've seen no-one racially abuse Mr Tan on this board. Most of the abuse seems to have come from you towards people who don't agree with you!

So maybe Mr Tan is just trying to make CCFC debt free to enable him to sell onto Mr Hueng sometime in the near future .... makes you wonder sometimes ??

I would rather stay in blue but if playing in red means all of the above then im sorry red it is.

We wanted to get rid of the egg.....Tan does it
We wanted the statue of Keenor....Tan pays for it to be finished
We wanted big pics of players etc around ground.....Tan offers it
We want to be debt free.....Tan offers it
We want MM to have a good transfer budget....Tan offers it

He wants us to play in a different colour.....We racially abuse and threaten his children

Quite honestly, im ashamed of us.

No, "WE" did not racially abuse and threaten his children.
A couple of moronic Fukwits did that!

I'm against the colour change and badge change, though I wouldn't be averse to a larger more prominent dragon on the badge, alongside the bluebird. However, I've seen no-one racially abuse Mr Tan on this board. Most of the abuse seems to have come from you towards people who don't agree with you!

Who said anything about this board racially abusing him....im talking about US as in CCFC fans in general.

Only once during the whole fiasco have i resorted to abusing someone....thats after 3 days of being called a sellout, plastic and cocksucker.

FFS I wouldn't swap my I Pad for anything, it was my fault for not checking what I'd wriitten, some of the apps are out standing.

you do know you can knock spell check and correction off?

It does sound pretty exciting fair play. Sad to say though I'm still out if city turns red.

Agreed

Not true supporters then. It's Cardiff City we support not the colour of a shirt. Your the sort of fans that would stop coming if we ended up back on the lower divisions. Glory hunters. We won't miss you.

What puzzles me is when people ask 'How many red shirts does he expect to sell in Malaysia?' Honestly who cares, you may care about the shirt colour but why would any of us care how many they would sell?

Umm...because increasing sales and revenue are his primary motivation for the colour change? If sales are minimal, then the re-branding exercise would be essentially redundant.

Only once during the whole fiasco have i resorted to abusing someone....thats after 3 days of being called a sellout, plastic and cocksucker.

That because you are craig, although i have to stop calling you a cocksucker as i know your trying to give it up and im not helping the cause.

Fantastic stuff Carlos


I think we are turning red --sod the Dinosaurs


Loooks like next season is sorted-blue home Red away -same badge small investmet i guess

So weve got one year to work on the Dinosaurs who still argue Blue or nothing

They are already a dwindling bunch so this time next year they will hopefully be extinct.

Was it Carl or Carlsberg who did the Mini-Update?

First of all you are not going to read anything that went on at today's board meeting in this update, many questions have been asked of the past few days about the reasons for re-branding, I may not have the answers some are looking for but it may help others understand a little bit more hopefully.

Nothing I will post will compromise the current negotiations but again the hope is to help fans understand a little bit more.

So we all know that Vincent Tan is willing to invest £100 million into our football club, fantastic news I am sure we would all agree.

Vincent Tan is the primary reason that Cardiff Blues and Cardiff City Football Club could come to an agreement that would release the Blues from their remaining 16 year tenancy agreement with us, Vincent Tan wants us to be able to celebrate our history by decorating our stadium with memorabilia from the good days gone by, with the Blues involved that was simply not possible.

We will see pictures and not 4' x 2' size prints but huge floor to ceiling images of iconic images of City's achievements of past seasons decorate the walls of the bar areas and other parts of the stadium to constantly remind us of days we cherish, this was Vincent Tan's idea. Who will decide on what images and how the stadium walls will be decorated? It will be us the fans, again Vincent Tan idea.

The stadium expansion plan is to put 8,000 extra seats in the Ninian stand with the creation of a second tier of seats, the reason is simple, we are on average filling nearly 90% of our stadium capacity and this is in the Championship, Vincent Tan wants this club ready for Premier League football at the earliest possible time, the money that it would cost to expand the stadium would be turned in equity and would not be a debt to the club.

The subject of Langston, it has to be said that both sides are working extremely hard and in a positive manner to settle the Langston debt at a much lower rate than the debt appears on the balance sheet, that takes a generous amount of goodwill on Langston's part and also on the Malaysians part but it will suit us, the club, more than anyone. The money that is being discussed to settle the debt is far less than the figure that has been widely spoken about in the past 5 years, once a full and final contract is signed then that money the Vincent Tan is using from the investment to settle Langston will also be turned into equity.

Because of the sensitive nature of these discussions it would be foolish of me to state the actual figures.

At the present time our club pays to rent the Vale for our training facilities and both us and the Blues pay £250k per year for the pleasure and next season that cost will rise to £270k per year. Vincent Tan wants us to have our own training facilities and ones of which we can be proud, club officials have been to many Premier League club's training pitches and have given their findings to the Malaysians who will deliver the best training ground we could possibly have hoped for on land that is close to our stadium. What cost will this be to our club? No cost, as this money would also be converted into equity.

Then there is the playing budget for Malky, there is a rather sizeable amount earmarked for Malky to use and even this money would be turned into equity.

All the above would leave our club virtually debt free and we would have a stadium and training facilities suitable for the Premier League and hopefully with the right player acquisitions we would have team capable of getting us there.

So there are the positives, not bad are they?

We all have heard and discussed/debated the red/blue change but at the end of day, Vincent Tan believes that that is the way forward for this club, did he mean to upset anyone? I don't believe he did, he was acting on the best interests of this club and he was incredibly excited by his plans.

What puzzles me is when people ask 'How many red shirts does he expect to sell in Malaysia?' Honestly who cares, you may care about the shirt colour but why would any of us care how many they would sell? Think about it, it is human nature to be a bit selfish and the best we can so I want Vincent Tan to pump as much money as possible into this football club and turn it into equity. Is that wrong of me?

Vincent Tan has 350 retail outlets in Asia, it's not a bad start for anyone who wishes to sell a product that he has heavily invested in.

But it is not about shirt sales, it is about commercial opportunity's that Vincent Tan believes he can open us for this club.

Does anyone remember Jian-hua Huang?

He is commonly known as Kenny Huang and he was the name at the forefront of proposed takeover of Liverpool Football Club a few years ago but pulled out. Well Kenny Huang has attended the CCS last season and watched one of our games, Huang is interested and has held talks with Vincent Tan about becoming involved at Cardiff City. Anyone guess what Kenny Huang's preference of colour is?

When dealing with Huang, the club would not be dealing with just one man but a group of his business associates that head up many of China's state owned company's. This is not something that would happen overnight but you can see what type of investor the club are hoping to attract and the amount of backing this club could have in the future if all goes well.

This club could possibly have access to not just millions but billions of pounds to take this club to the very top, so let's hope that everything works out for the best of this club and we do indeed see the type of investment that is being spoken.

TG left today's board meeting in good spirits and returns to Malaysia positive that this is still the right football club to be involved in and he will deliver that message to Vincent Tan, it will probably take a few days before we hear what happens next but in my honest opinion I believe it will news well worth waiting for.

Thanks Carl, great news.

Why would another tier have to be added to the ninian stand when ever since the stadium was built they said they can knock that breeze block wall down at the back of the stands, and put another 5-10 rows all the way around in the big space thats there adding another 8,000 seats in taking the capacity to 35,000, and that this could be done in the summer months if we ever got promoted, the only time they have said about adding tiers is if we ever became big enough and had to extend to 60,000! So why have they changed the plans to extend now or was that plan of adding the seats from space behind the wall bullshit all along???

I just feel massive relief that Vincent Tan and TG seem to be ignoring the tiny minority of small-minded racists who brought shame on themselves, and are looking at the bigger picture. There will probably never be a better opportunity for this club to progress, and I for one will support the plans if they secure the future of Cardiff City.

Only just read it as I was working last night,

Really positive stuff.



Bit clearer now as to why he wanted red,

I'm in

Yeah, this time next year we'll be billionaires

I would rather stay in blue but if playing in red means all of the above then im sorry red it is.

We wanted to get rid of the egg.....Tan does it
We wanted the statue of Keenor....Tan pays for it to be finished
We wanted big pics of players etc around ground.....Tan offers it
We want to be debt free.....Tan offers it
We want MM to have a good transfer budget....Tan offers it

He wants us to play in a different colour.....We racially abuse and threaten his children

Quite honestly, im ashamed of us.

Fair play fella, a lot of sense in this post, and exactly how a lot of us see it , i'm sure of that.