when will the politicians close the gates to immigrants

2yrs ago I sold a pup to a polish guy called Tomaz. He turned up in new Hilux wife and baby. I asked him what job he had. He told me he was a builder. I laughed and said I expect you got all Poles work for you. He looked at me with disgust and replied He only employed 2 as most poles in London were criminals. All his other workers were English. As for professor pointless you have not got a clue. Most of the ones working are under cutting the British workers , which put them on benefits and burden the state. All the other people that say we need them either employ them or their jobs ain't threatened ie MP s. They would soon change their mind if they were to allow them in the house of lords.If they are such good workers why is their country a f*cking shit hole.

thats my point on this job not paying enough
if an immigrant is happy to work for less than you why arent you working that wage
surely a cut in wage is better than no job at all
or am i getting confused somewhere

Very confused jonny and I have to stop you here and tell you that you're a contender for "dope of the season".

In fact , William Hill is already paying out all bets on you already.

Snap jonny in half and you see the letters C _ U - N -T run through him like a stick of rock .....

prove me wrong then
s oare you telling me you would rather lose your job than take a pay cut
where is the logic in that

When your all watching the Olympics in July ask yourself who built these great venues? Once the Olympics were awarded to London, the boroughs that the Olympic village fall into received 38000 applications from foreigners for NI numbers, enabling them to work there. I work in the construction industry, I know that British jobs go to foreign workers, I KNOW this. I worked on the biggest energy from waste plant in Europe which is right opposite the Dagenham ford plant, 20 mins from central London and there were hundreds of polish and Croatian workers there. There are power stations going up all over the country with minimum British workers. There are 9 million unemployed people in this country, 9million, yet we let foreigners come and work. This subject makes me real f*cking angry, yet the do gooders say open the borders and let them in.

. You are correct . I to work in same industry. On the uskmouth power station out of 1000 workers 700 at one stage were foreign Portuguese , poles, liths, Roma, Hungarian etc. Siemans came out with statement 85% were local. Fecking lies. All this shit about them being this and that is bollocks. I remember some coach owner saying he could not get 90 drivers and had too recruit in Poland. If you believe that Jonny and co I can't help u understand it's called exploitation and greed.

I was interviewed for a job at uskmouth and dismissed, I don't know one lad who had a successful interview, the whole procedure was an excuse for them to dismiss British skilled workers. My mate, (one of only 6 lads I know that worked there) was sacked because he asked for scaffolding to be extended on the top drum of the boiler instead of leaning out of the handrail. I hope the whole place blows up and leaves a great big hole in the ground.

that come here and neither bring or offer any sort of way of being self sufficient,it simply has to stop,and the sooner the politicians realise that our once great country is awash with immigrants that will spend a lifetime on benefit and will never mix and be apart of this country,the better....i have no gripe with people wanting to make better lives for themselves and their families but this cannot be done at mine and your expense.ive had a tits full of our weak political take and it simply has to stop

Illuminati

no world order,just common sense

No, we're all slaves to these cnuts who continously exploit us.

agreed..

More lies from the proff. Germans have a similair system to ours but only pay 20% tax

yes but Germany has one of the best infrastructures in Europe if not the World and unlike this country retained its manufacturing and industry instead of relying on the service industry and academia

And doesnt open its doors to mass immigration scroungers

actually germany has a higher immigration % than the UK and has one of the highest immigration %'s in the EU

wrong again. they let in skilled workers and proffesionals but are tight on unskilled workers and certainly dont let them just rock up and start claiming benefits.

Dear dear there are some right goody Fooking two shoes on here.
Pure and simple this !! if you can't afford to put bread on the table at home to feed your family you don't invite the neighbours round and give them steak for there dinner.

Dear dear there are some right goody Fooking two shoes on here.
Pure and simple this !! if you can't afford to put bread on the table at home to feed your family you don't invite the neighbours round and give them steak for there dinner.

beautifully put nukes....thankyou....so simple and so true

Might not be able to spoil the family, but what about the spoilt little cunts upstairs who have enough money to feed thousands

Might not be able to spoil the family, but what about the spoilt little cunts upstairs who have enough money to feed thousands

explain......the ones upstairs will always have enough to feed thousands.....im on the ground floor and have enough to feed my family and i do feel sorry for those in the basement who cannt help themselves and i am more than happy to help....but we dont need more going into the basement that have no intention of climbing the stairs out of the basement

There's a small terraced house just by me which has 3 Polish families living in it. None of them have jobs or have ever worked in this country. Why should they? The benefits they get are more than what they'd get working full time back in Poland. I don't blame them, what they've done is a no brainer. Work your nuts off in Poland for peanuts or move to the UK and live on benefits and be better off.

It's absolute rubbish that these people are coming here to do the jobs we won't do. I know loads of people desperate to work and would do anything offered. One guy I know from Nelson went in to the Merthyr job centre and there were just 3 jobs there. THREE!!!! yet Merthyr is being turned into mini-Poland. Now if anyone believes that they are coming here for work then answer this one - Why then are they going to Merthyr? No offence to Merthyr but it's a shit hole and there are no jobs there. The simple fact of the matter is people are going to live in Merthyr to live on benefits. And to be fair it's probably easier to blend in with a life on benefits there.

Here's another question for those who've believed the governments bollux (both Labour and Tory). If you were Polish and you wanted to up sticks and move to another Euro country - why oh why choose Cefn shithole Hengoed or Merthyr Tydfil? I can think of a few nicer places. How about going to live on the Spanish benefits system? A nice little flat on Majorca would be nice. Or how about a nice little pad on the south of France? Whilst talking about France - why is it all these immigrants meet up in France before desperately trying to cross the channel to England? They are already in France and they've passed through several Euro countries to get that far. So why didn't they just visit their DHSS office whilst there in those countries? You've got to remember that Polish people are free to move to ANY Euro country. There are some lovely places in Europe and lets be perfectly honest here - if you were to write a list of the Nicest places to live in Europe, Merthyr would NOT be on it. The only answer is that it's only the UK that will dish out benefits to immigrants at the level they do. The other Euro countries are a bit more sensible with their tax payers money.

2yrs ago I sold a pup to a polish guy called Tomaz. He turned up in new Hilux wife and baby. I asked him what job he had. He told me he was a builder. I laughed and said I expect you got all Poles work for you. He looked at me with disgust and replied He only employed 2 as most poles in London were criminals. All his other workers were English. As for professor pointless you have not got a clue. Most of the ones working are under cutting the British workers , which put them on benefits and burden the state. All the other people that say we need them either employ them or their jobs ain't threatened ie MP s. They would soon change their mind if they were to allow them in the house of lords.If they are such good workers why is their country a f*cking shit hole.

thats my point on this job not paying enough
if an immigrant is happy to work for less than you why arent you working that wage
surely a cut in wage is better than no job at all
or am i getting confused somewhere

Very confused jonny and I have to stop you here and tell you that you're a contender for "dope of the season".

In fact , William Hill is already paying out all bets on you already.

Snap jonny in half and you see the letters C _ U - N -T run through him like a stick of rock .....

prove me wrong then
s oare you telling me you would rather lose your job than take a pay cut
where is the logic in that

What's a job worth?
What's your job worth?
.................................. can you see where this is going Jonny?

There's a small terraced house just by me which has 3 Polish families living in it. None of them have jobs or have ever worked in this country. Why should they? The benefits they get are more than what they'd get working full time back in Poland. I don't blame them, what they've done is a no brainer. Work your nuts off in Poland for peanuts or move to the UK and live on benefits and be better off.

It's absolute rubbish that these people are coming here to do the jobs we won't do. I know loads of people desperate to work and would do anything offered. One guy I know from Nelson went in to the Merthyr job centre and there were just 3 jobs there. THREE!!!! yet Merthyr is being turned into mini-Poland. Now if anyone believes that they are coming here for work then answer this one - Why then are they going to Merthyr? No offence to Merthyr but it's a shit hole and there are no jobs there. The simple fact of the matter is people are going to live in Merthyr to live on benefits. And to be fair it's probably easier to blend in with a life on benefits there.

Here's another question for those who've believed the governments bollux (both Labour and Tory). If you were Polish and you wanted to up sticks and move to another Euro country - why oh why choose Cefn shithole Hengoed or Merthyr Tydfil? I can think of a few nicer places. How about going to live on the Spanish benefits system? A nice little flat on Majorca would be nice. Or how about a nice little pad on the south of France? Whilst talking about France - why is it all these immigrants meet up in France before desperately trying to cross the channel to England? They are already in France and they've passed through several Euro countries to get that far. So why didn't they just visit their DHSS office whilst there in those countries? You've got to remember that Polish people are free to move to ANY Euro country. There are some lovely places in Europe and lets be perfectly honest here - if you were to write a list of the Nicest places to live in Europe, Merthyr would NOT be on it. The only answer is that it's only the UK that will dish out benefits to immigrants at the level they do. The other Euro countries are a bit more sensible with their tax payers money.

100% agreed

More lies from the proff. Germans have a similair system to ours but only pay 20% tax

yes but Germany has one of the best infrastructures in Europe if not the World and unlike this country retained its manufacturing and industry instead of relying on the service industry and academia

And doesnt open its doors to mass immigration scroungers

actually germany has a higher immigration % than the UK and has one of the highest immigration %'s in the EU

wrong again. they let in skilled workers and proffesionals but are tight on unskilled workers and certainly dont let them just rock up and start claiming benefits.

but we as a country wont do unskilled work
apparently its demeaning and doesnt pay enough to live on
and unskilled work is only good enough for immigrants
this government has put so much emphasis on our citizens going to university and getting a degree
that its extremely easy to get a university place with the promise that it will give you a decent job that pays well
which has given this country an attitude that it will only work if the conditions are right
now take this point
this country can give every citizen a degree if they want
but the fact is
someone is still going to be at the bottom of the pile
someone is still going to have to pick litter up from the street
someone is still going to have to do those entry level jobs that no one wants
and when this country gets real and realises that thats the case
we wont have to rely on immigrants for our unskilled labour force

so saying that Germany only lets in skilled workers yes your right because German citizens are actually willing to work unlike us Brits
but whether they are skilled workers or unskilled workers it doesnt hide the fact that they have a higher percentage rate than any other country in Europe

There's a small terraced house just by me which has 3 Polish families living in it. None of them have jobs or have ever worked in this country. Why should they? The benefits they get are more than what they'd get working full time back in Poland. I don't blame them, what they've done is a no brainer. Work your nuts off in Poland for peanuts or move to the UK and live on benefits and be better off.

It's absolute rubbish that these people are coming here to do the jobs we won't do. I know loads of people desperate to work and would do anything offered. One guy I know from Nelson went in to the Merthyr job centre and there were just 3 jobs there. THREE!!!! yet Merthyr is being turned into mini-Poland. Now if anyone believes that they are coming here for work then answer this one - Why then are they going to Merthyr? No offence to Merthyr but it's a shit hole and there are no jobs there. The simple fact of the matter is people are going to live in Merthyr to live on benefits. And to be fair it's probably easier to blend in with a life on benefits there.

Here's another question for those who've believed the governments bollux (both Labour and Tory). If you were Polish and you wanted to up sticks and move to another Euro country - why oh why choose Cefn shithole Hengoed or Merthyr Tydfil? I can think of a few nicer places. How about going to live on the Spanish benefits system? A nice little flat on Majorca would be nice. Or how about a nice little pad on the south of France? Whilst talking about France - why is it all these immigrants meet up in France before desperately trying to cross the channel to England? They are already in France and they've passed through several Euro countries to get that far. So why didn't they just visit their DHSS office whilst there in those countries? You've got to remember that Polish people are free to move to ANY Euro country. There are some lovely places in Europe and lets be perfectly honest here - if you were to write a list of the Nicest places to live in Europe, Merthyr would NOT be on it. The only answer is that it's only the UK that will dish out benefits to immigrants at the level they do. The other Euro countries are a bit more sensible with their tax payers money.

Spot-on Berwyn

But by Jonnys logic we should all renage on our mortgages, work for a pittance, and live 3 familys to a small house just because some impoverished cretin from another country is awilling to.

that come here and neither bring or offer any sort of way of being self sufficient,it simply has to stop,and the sooner the politicians realise that our once great country is awash with immigrants that will spend a lifetime on benefit and will never mix and be apart of this country,the better....i have no gripe with people wanting to make better lives for themselves and their families but this cannot be done at mine and your expense.ive had a tits full of our weak political take and it simply has to stop

I've had a tits full of people spouting lies and inaccuracies about immigration into this country.

So true . And I bet the one's blaming the Immigrants for everything are the ones on the Sick getting all the benefits under the sun , have 6 kids and never paid into the system.
There is a problem with immigration from the EU countries there is no doubt about that. But we all know people in Wales and the UK that's never worked, have like 6 kids and getting all the benefits under the sun, while we pay for it all , They are more of a problem imo

2yrs ago I sold a pup to a polish guy called Tomaz. He turned up in new Hilux wife and baby. I asked him what job he had. He told me he was a builder. I laughed and said I expect you got all Poles work for you. He looked at me with disgust and replied He only employed 2 as most poles in London were criminals. All his other workers were English. As for professor pointless you have not got a clue. Most of the ones working are under cutting the British workers , which put them on benefits and burden the state. All the other people that say we need them either employ them or their jobs ain't threatened ie MP s. They would soon change their mind if they were to allow them in the house of lords.If they are such good workers why is their country a f*cking shit hole.

thats my point on this job not paying enough
if an immigrant is happy to work for less than you why arent you working that wage
surely a cut in wage is better than no job at all
or am i getting confused somewhere

Very confused jonny and I have to stop you here and tell you that you're a contender for "dope of the season".

In fact , William Hill is already paying out all bets on you already.

Snap jonny in half and you see the letters C _ U - N -T run through him like a stick of rock .....

prove me wrong then
s oare you telling me you would rather lose your job than take a pay cut
where is the logic in that

What's a job worth?
What's your job worth?
.................................. can you see where this is going Jonny?

a job is worth whatever someone is willing to pay for
a job is worth whatever a worker is happy to take home with him/her
now if you think your job is worth say £30,000 a year and your employer is willing to pay that happy days
but if someone is willing to do the same job as you work to the same level,take less breaks and work more days than you and do all that for £25,000 a year.
you will quickly find your job is now worth £25,000 a year and youve just priced yourself out of the market.

that come here and neither bring or offer any sort of way of being self sufficient,it simply has to stop,and the sooner the politicians realise that our once great country is awash with immigrants that will spend a lifetime on benefit and will never mix and be apart of this country,the better....i have no gripe with people wanting to make better lives for themselves and their families but this cannot be done at mine and your expense.ive had a tits full of our weak political take and it simply has to stop

I've had a tits full of people spouting lies and inaccuracies about immigration into this country.

So true . And I bet the one's blaming the Immigrants for everything are the ones on the Sick getting all the benefits under the sun , have 6 kids and never paid into the system.
There is a problem with immigration from the EU countries there is no doubt about that. But we all know people in Wales and the UK that's never worked, have like 6 kids and getting all the benefits under the sun, while we pay for it all , They are more of a problem imo

Of course they are a problem but we shouldnt be taking the Polish equivalents of these deadbeats.

Weve got enough deadbeats of our own.

2yrs ago I sold a pup to a polish guy called Tomaz. He turned up in new Hilux wife and baby. I asked him what job he had. He told me he was a builder. I laughed and said I expect you got all Poles work for you. He looked at me with disgust and replied He only employed 2 as most poles in London were criminals. All his other workers were English. As for professor pointless you have not got a clue. Most of the ones working are under cutting the British workers , which put them on benefits and burden the state. All the other people that say we need them either employ them or their jobs ain't threatened ie MP s. They would soon change their mind if they were to allow them in the house of lords.If they are such good workers why is their country a f*cking shit hole.

thats my point on this job not paying enough
if an immigrant is happy to work for less than you why arent you working that wage
surely a cut in wage is better than no job at all
or am i getting confused somewhere

Very confused jonny and I have to stop you here and tell you that you're a contender for "dope of the season".

In fact , William Hill is already paying out all bets on you already.

Snap jonny in half and you see the letters C _ U - N -T run through him like a stick of rock .....

prove me wrong then
s oare you telling me you would rather lose your job than take a pay cut
where is the logic in that

What's a job worth?
What's your job worth?
.................................. can you see where this is going Jonny?

a job is worth whatever someone is willing to pay for
a job is worth whatever a worker is happy to take home with him/her
now if you think your job is worth say £30,000 a year and your employer is willing to pay that happy days
but if someone is willing to do the same job as you work to the same level,take less breaks and work more days than you and do all that for £25,000 a year.
you will quickly find your job is now worth £25,000 a year and youve just priced yourself out of the market.

The slave market?

There's a small terraced house just by me which has 3 Polish families living in it. None of them have jobs or have ever worked in this country. Why should they? The benefits they get are more than what they'd get working full time back in Poland. I don't blame them, what they've done is a no brainer. Work your nuts off in Poland for peanuts or move to the UK and live on benefits and be better off.

It's absolute rubbish that these people are coming here to do the jobs we won't do. I know loads of people desperate to work and would do anything offered. One guy I know from Nelson went in to the Merthyr job centre and there were just 3 jobs there. THREE!!!! yet Merthyr is being turned into mini-Poland. Now if anyone believes that they are coming here for work then answer this one - Why then are they going to Merthyr? No offence to Merthyr but it's a shit hole and there are no jobs there. The simple fact of the matter is people are going to live in Merthyr to live on benefits. And to be fair it's probably easier to blend in with a life on benefits there.

Here's another question for those who've believed the governments bollux (both Labour and Tory). If you were Polish and you wanted to up sticks and move to another Euro country - why oh why choose Cefn shithole Hengoed or Merthyr Tydfil? I can think of a few nicer places. How about going to live on the Spanish benefits system? A nice little flat on Majorca would be nice. Or how about a nice little pad on the south of France? Whilst talking about France - why is it all these immigrants meet up in France before desperately trying to cross the channel to England? They are already in France and they've passed through several Euro countries to get that far. So why didn't they just visit their DHSS office whilst there in those countries? You've got to remember that Polish people are free to move to ANY Euro country. There are some lovely places in Europe and lets be perfectly honest here - if you were to write a list of the Nicest places to live in Europe, Merthyr would NOT be on it. The only answer is that it's only the UK that will dish out benefits to immigrants at the level they do. The other Euro countries are a bit more sensible with their tax payers money.

Spot-on Berwyn

But by Jonnys logic we should all renage on our mortgages, work for a pittance, and live 3 familys to a small house just because some impoverished cretin from another country is awilling to.

but why does this government have to provide quality of life for you
all the government needs to do is make sure you have the basics and thats it
it doesnt need to provide you cash to go to the pub with
or pay your season ticket for the football
or pay for your 2 weeks in the sun abroad for your holiday

your supposed to provide your own quality of life
if what youre earning does not provide the luxuries in life that you want then its up to you to improve and work up the ladder
the government is under no obligation to provide that for you

There's a small terraced house just by me which has 3 Polish families living in it. None of them have jobs or have ever worked in this country. Why should they? The benefits they get are more than what they'd get working full time back in Poland. I don't blame them, what they've done is a no brainer. Work your nuts off in Poland for peanuts or move to the UK and live on benefits and be better off.

It's absolute rubbish that these people are coming here to do the jobs we won't do. I know loads of people desperate to work and would do anything offered. One guy I know from Nelson went in to the Merthyr job centre and there were just 3 jobs there. THREE!!!! yet Merthyr is being turned into mini-Poland. Now if anyone believes that they are coming here for work then answer this one - Why then are they going to Merthyr? No offence to Merthyr but it's a shit hole and there are no jobs there. The simple fact of the matter is people are going to live in Merthyr to live on benefits. And to be fair it's probably easier to blend in with a life on benefits there.

Here's another question for those who've believed the governments bollux (both Labour and Tory). If you were Polish and you wanted to up sticks and move to another Euro country - why oh why choose Cefn shithole Hengoed or Merthyr Tydfil? I can think of a few nicer places. How about going to live on the Spanish benefits system? A nice little flat on Majorca would be nice. Or how about a nice little pad on the south of France? Whilst talking about France - why is it all these immigrants meet up in France before desperately trying to cross the channel to England? They are already in France and they've passed through several Euro countries to get that far. So why didn't they just visit their DHSS office whilst there in those countries? You've got to remember that Polish people are free to move to ANY Euro country. There are some lovely places in Europe and lets be perfectly honest here - if you were to write a list of the Nicest places to live in Europe, Merthyr would NOT be on it. The only answer is that it's only the UK that will dish out benefits to immigrants at the level they do. The other Euro countries are a bit more sensible with their tax payers money.

Spot-on Berwyn

But by Jonnys logic we should all renage on our mortgages, work for a pittance, and live 3 familys to a small house just because some impoverished cretin from another country is awilling to.

but why does this government have to provide quality of life for you
all the government needs to do is make sure you have the basics and thats it
it doesnt need to provide you cash to go to the pub with
or pay your season ticket for the football
or pay for your 2 weeks in the sun abroad for your holiday

your supposed to provide your own quality of life
if what youre earning does not provide the luxuries in life that you want then its up to you to improve and work up the ladder
the government is under no obligation to provide that for you

If I was in government that's exactly what I'd do

There's a small terraced house just by me which has 3 Polish families living in it. None of them have jobs or have ever worked in this country. Why should they? The benefits they get are more than what they'd get working full time back in Poland. I don't blame them, what they've done is a no brainer. Work your nuts off in Poland for peanuts or move to the UK and live on benefits and be better off.

It's absolute rubbish that these people are coming here to do the jobs we won't do. I know loads of people desperate to work and would do anything offered. One guy I know from Nelson went in to the Merthyr job centre and there were just 3 jobs there. THREE!!!! yet Merthyr is being turned into mini-Poland. Now if anyone believes that they are coming here for work then answer this one - Why then are they going to Merthyr? No offence to Merthyr but it's a shit hole and there are no jobs there. The simple fact of the matter is people are going to live in Merthyr to live on benefits. And to be fair it's probably easier to blend in with a life on benefits there.

Here's another question for those who've believed the governments bollux (both Labour and Tory). If you were Polish and you wanted to up sticks and move to another Euro country - why oh why choose Cefn shithole Hengoed or Merthyr Tydfil? I can think of a few nicer places. How about going to live on the Spanish benefits system? A nice little flat on Majorca would be nice. Or how about a nice little pad on the south of France? Whilst talking about France - why is it all these immigrants meet up in France before desperately trying to cross the channel to England? They are already in France and they've passed through several Euro countries to get that far. So why didn't they just visit their DHSS office whilst there in those countries? You've got to remember that Polish people are free to move to ANY Euro country. There are some lovely places in Europe and lets be perfectly honest here - if you were to write a list of the Nicest places to live in Europe, Merthyr would NOT be on it. The only answer is that it's only the UK that will dish out benefits to immigrants at the level they do. The other Euro countries are a bit more sensible with their tax payers money.

Spot-on Berwyn

But by Jonnys logic we should all renage on our mortgages, work for a pittance, and live 3 familys to a small house just because some impoverished cretin from another country is awilling to.

but why does this government have to provide quality of life for you
all the government needs to do is make sure you have the basics and thats it
it doesnt need to provide you cash to go to the pub with
or pay your season ticket for the football
or pay for your 2 weeks in the sun abroad for your holiday

your supposed to provide your own quality of life
if what youre earning does not provide the luxuries in life that you want then its up to you to improve and work up the ladder
the government is under no obligation to provide that for you

If I was in government that's exactly what I'd do

well you belong down the back of the garden with the fairies and the pixies because thats not going to happen

that come here and neither bring or offer any sort of way of being self sufficient,it simply has to stop,and the sooner the politicians realise that our once great country is awash with immigrants that will spend a lifetime on benefit and will never mix and be apart of this country,the better....i have no gripe with people wanting to make better lives for themselves and their families but this cannot be done at mine and your expense.ive had a tits full of our weak political take and it simply has to stop

I've had a tits full of people spouting lies and inaccuracies about immigration into this country.

So true . And I bet the one's blaming the Immigrants for everything are the ones on the Sick getting all the benefits under the sun , have 6 kids and never paid into the system.
There is a problem with immigration from the EU countries there is no doubt about that. But we all know people in Wales and the UK that's never worked, have like 6 kids and getting all the benefits under the sun, while we pay for it all , They are more of a problem imo

Of course they are a problem but we shouldnt be taking the Polish equivalents of these deadbeats.

Weve got enough deadbeats of our own.

I don't think there's many so called Polish deadbeats : simply because they have no social system like ours and are used to having to look for work instead of having the Government to pay for you stay at home; So when they come over here, by in large its to work and the Polish since the mining age , are known for their honest graft and sweat

Have a walk around the Valleys and see loads of our own work shy, getting pissed out for their brains having 4 or more kids despite having paid nothing into the system for decades if ever at all . That's not a problem because of immigration its a problem of our own, playing the system for far too long and we all know people like that and it's gone since the 80's

I do feel sorry for those people out of work through no fault of their own and the youngest trying to get on the pay roll for the 1st time . Yes Immigration from the EU has affected those people (because they are no longer doing the jobs we hate, but now the jobs we used to do) has brining in the minimum wage which has seen the Japanese factory's move out

Also to blame is the sheep that Vote Labour no matter what , Have people ever woke up to the fact at how much Labour have failed the Welsh Valleys and Wales in general ?

that come here and neither bring or offer any sort of way of being self sufficient,it simply has to stop,and the sooner the politicians realise that our once great country is awash with immigrants that will spend a lifetime on benefit and will never mix and be apart of this country,the better....i have no gripe with people wanting to make better lives for themselves and their families but this cannot be done at mine and your expense.ive had a tits full of our weak political take and it simply has to stop

I've had a tits full of people spouting lies and inaccuracies about immigration into this country.

So true . And I bet the one's blaming the Immigrants for everything are the ones on the Sick getting all the benefits under the sun , have 6 kids and never paid into the system.
There is a problem with immigration from the EU countries there is no doubt about that. But we all know people in Wales and the UK that's never worked, have like 6 kids and getting all the benefits under the sun, while we pay for it all , They are more of a problem imo

Of course they are a problem but we shouldnt be taking the Polish equivalents of these deadbeats.

Weve got enough deadbeats of our own.

polo...it seems that some on here are either arguing for the sake of it or have no idea.....exactly what you say and i have said earlier....we have enough of our own not wanting to work so why take more shit onboard

that come here and neither bring or offer any sort of way of being self sufficient,it simply has to stop,and the sooner the politicians realise that our once great country is awash with immigrants that will spend a lifetime on benefit and will never mix and be apart of this country,the better....i have no gripe with people wanting to make better lives for themselves and their families but this cannot be done at mine and your expense.ive had a tits full of our weak political take and it simply has to stop

I've had a tits full of people spouting lies and inaccuracies about immigration into this country.

So true . And I bet the one's blaming the Immigrants for everything are the ones on the Sick getting all the benefits under the sun , have 6 kids and never paid into the system.
There is a problem with immigration from the EU countries there is no doubt about that. But we all know people in Wales and the UK that's never worked, have like 6 kids and getting all the benefits under the sun, while we pay for it all , They are more of a problem imo

Of course they are a problem but we shouldnt be taking the Polish equivalents of these deadbeats.

Weve got enough deadbeats of our own.

I don't think there's many so called Polish deadbeats : simply because they have no social system like ours and are used to having to look for work instead of having the Government to pay for you stay at home; So when they come over here, by in large its to work and the Polish since the mining age , are known for their honest graft and sweat

Have a walk around the Valleys and see loads of our own work shy, getting pissed out for their brains having 4 or more kids despite having paid nothing into the system for decades if ever at all . That's not a problem because of immigration its a problem of our own, playing the system for far too long and we all know people like that and it's gone since the 80's

I do feel sorry for those people out of work through no fault of their own and the youngest trying to get on the pay roll for the 1st time . Yes Immigration from the EU has affected those people (because they are no longer doing the jobs we hate, but now the jobs we used to do) has brining in the minimum wage which has seen the Japanese factory's move out

Also to blame is the sheep that Vote Labour no matter what , Have people ever woke up to the fact at how much Labour have failed the Welsh Valleys and Wales in general ?

christ mate open your eyes.....nobody has mentioned people coming here that work....but why do we allow people in that are going to offer f@ck all....and just live on benefits....and labour havent let you down...politicians full stop have let you me us all down....noner of them give a shyt about us

that come here and neither bring or offer any sort of way of being self sufficient,it simply has to stop,and the sooner the politicians realise that our once great country is awash with immigrants that will spend a lifetime on benefit and will never mix and be apart of this country,the better....i have no gripe with people wanting to make better lives for themselves and their families but this cannot be done at mine and your expense.ive had a tits full of our weak political take and it simply has to stop

I've had a tits full of people spouting lies and inaccuracies about immigration into this country.

So true . And I bet the one's blaming the Immigrants for everything are the ones on the Sick getting all the benefits under the sun , have 6 kids and never paid into the system.
There is a problem with immigration from the EU countries there is no doubt about that. But we all know people in Wales and the UK that's never worked, have like 6 kids and getting all the benefits under the sun, while we pay for it all , They are more of a problem imo

Of course they are a problem but we shouldnt be taking the Polish equivalents of these deadbeats.

Weve got enough deadbeats of our own.

polo...it seems that some on here are either arguing for the sake of it or have no idea.....exactly what you say and i have said earlier....we have enough of our own not wanting to work so why take more shit onboard

but they do work
thats what they come over here for
but when your working your socks off and the British family living next to you doesnt work and is earning more money than you
there will be an obvious level of resentment
and if they can get away with it why cant we

blaming immigrants for everything is an obvious smoke screen to cover up this countries failings in the work place and this countries attitude to work

You all being mean. Why not invite every somali pirate over, buy em boats,machetes and AK 47s and let em sail up and down the taff? Keep a welcome in the hllside mun.

Just been on the radio they have a problem in Northampton with slovakians camping on the roundabouts. No jobs none of them some emotional cretin like Jonny saying they need to be housed. Bit of a ploy living on a round about to get help. Jonny the country is full , repeat full , repeat full please think before u write any more. I can't be bothered with this thread I have work to do so good bye.

christ mate open your eyes.....nobody has mentioned people coming here that work....but why do we allow people in that are going to offer f@ck all....and just live on benefits....and labour havent let you down...politicians full stop have let you me us all down....noner of them give a shyt about us

Think about time you opened your eye's . Long before immigration from the Eastern Europe , we have near enough 4 million onte Sick and 3 and half million on the dole and lets not kids our self's that we really had 4 million people of working age that we not fit for any sort of work what so ever . Sorry millions of our own have and continue to play the system
And Labour need to take a lot of the blame, They've done nothing for Wales or the Valleys for years if ever, where we have Ann Clwyd far more concerned with what happens in Iraq than what happens in Wales and lets all remember it was Labour that allowed EU A8 Accession into this country , while Germany and the likes of French 'opted out' .


BTW The likes of the Polish do work and work dam hard too , they're not coming over here for our Benefits, thought there is a case to say some are coming over here not just for work but our free and quite good maternity services

Just been on the radio they have a problem in Northampton with slovakians camping on the roundabouts. No jobs none of them some emotional cretin like Jonny saying they need to be housed. Bit of a ploy living on a round about to get help. Jonny the country is full , repeat full , repeat full please think before u write any more. I can't be bothered with this thread I have work to do so good bye.

oh i think all the time my friend

but the simple matter is if our workforce is unwilling to work
somebody has to

there isnt a shortage of jobs in this country
what there is, is a shortage of desirable jobs in this country and an expectancy that everything will be done for you
an alien concept in most other countries but accepted in ours
we have a reliance on immigrant workers and until we actually get off our backsides and work we always will

christ mate open your eyes.....nobody has mentioned people coming here that work....but why do we allow people in that are going to offer f@ck all....and just live on benefits....and labour havent let you down...politicians full stop have let you me us all down....noner of them give a shyt about us

Think about time you opened your eye's . Long before immigration from the Eastern Europe , we have near enough 4 million onte Sick and 3 and half million on the dole and lets not kids our self's that we really had 4 million people of working age that we not fit for any sort of work what so ever . Sorry millions of our own have and continue to play the system
And Labour need to take a lot of the blame, They've done nothing for Wales or the Valleys for years if ever, where we have Ann Clwyd far more concerned with what happens in Iraq than what happens in Wales and lets all remember it was Labour that allowed EU A8 Accession into this country , while Germany and the likes of French 'opted out' .


BTW The likes of the Polish do work and work dam hard too , they're not coming over here for our Benefits, thought there is a case to say some are coming over here not just for work but our free and quite good maternity services

And to get pissed up, rob, and send back the dole.

christ mate open your eyes.....nobody has mentioned people coming here that work....but why do we allow people in that are going to offer f@ck all....and just live on benefits....and labour havent let you down...politicians full stop have let you me us all down....noner of them give a shyt about us

Think about time you opened your eye's . Long before immigration from the Eastern Europe , we have near enough 4 million onte Sick and 3 and half million on the dole and lets not kids our self's that we really had 4 million people of working age that we not fit for any sort of work what so ever . Sorry millions of our own have and continue to play the system
And Labour need to take a lot of the blame, They've done nothing for Wales or the Valleys for years if ever, where we have Ann Clwyd far more concerned with what happens in Iraq than what happens in Wales and lets all remember it was Labour that allowed EU A8 Accession into this country , while Germany and the likes of French 'opted out' .


BTW The likes of the Polish do work and work dam hard too , they're not coming over here for our Benefits, thought there is a case to say some are coming over here not just for work but our free and quite good maternity services

i have agreed we have our own spongers....please read previous replies.....
i have agreed that i have no problem with immigrants that work....please read previous replies....
i have a problem with immigrants that come here to sponge...please read previous replies...
and all political parties have let us down...please read previous replies...
and as for polish,yep they do come looking for work..ive never argued otherwise...and i dont give a toss where people are from..what nationality....thats all i have said is whoever they are they need to be self sufficient as as you so rightly stated we have enough lazy bugars