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Re: FAO ALL JEWS

Tue Dec 20, 2011 9:54 pm

cardiff yid wrote:Yido,s Yido,s, Yidos! :old: :ayatollah: :ayatollah: :o

:lol:

Re: FAO ALL JEWS

Tue Dec 20, 2011 11:49 pm

Forever Blue wrote:
bluecityblue wrote:
Forever Blue wrote:And please now leave Palestine and let them live their lives in peace in their own country, America can clear out as well.

Its funny America gets involved in all the other countries where massacres are taking place, but not in Palestine. :evil:

And where will they go? WE put them there. And yes, the Jews rule America, and if there was oil or gas then the yanks would be straight in there.



I just want, the Palestinians to be given their own rights and left alone and an independent army between them for a few yrs, it happens every where else.









The sickening thing for the Palestinians is that They (Palestinians) and Their Leaders Actually welcomed Jewish People and lived side by side and considered Themselves Semetic Brethren for many centuries, Only when the American and British got involved did all the boll'x begin, And the Arab and Jew Bedouin ties of Kinship that went back to the days of Abram got shafted by the outside influence, I must say at this point I have many Jewish and Muslim/Arab Friends that actually get on very well, and one of My Israeli Friends believes the way forward is a coalition Government of both Israel and Palestine of equal standing to attain real piece, And say's many People are of the same opinion back home, Like My Friends of both state's say there's little difference in Shalom /Salom . :old:

Re: FAO ALL JEWS

Wed Dec 21, 2011 12:33 am

Unless you are going to tell us why then your post was pretty pointless. :?

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Tony Blue Williams

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Dear Tony perhaps you would be so kind as to give us an in depth annalist regarding the the Palestine,Israeli dispute

Re: FAO ALL JEWS

Wed Dec 21, 2011 7:22 am

alexc wrote:
Bridgend_bluebird wrote:
alexc wrote:Ok, this America bashing is getting silly.
Some of us Cardiff lads have American wives and half American kids.
Opinion is fine, bashing everyone in America is not opinion it is just stupidity.


I'm not bashing all americans at all. I'm having ago at their government.


Ok, guess it's a little paranoia on my side, Americans are a little different from us for sure but really in the main you would like them.


Ghee thanks Alex, I was starting to feel a little bullied.

Re: FAO ALL JEWS

Wed Dec 21, 2011 8:01 am

Forever Blue wrote:
bluecityblue wrote:
Forever Blue wrote:And please now leave Palestine and let them live their lives in peace in their own country, America can clear out as well.

Its funny America gets involved in all the other countries where massacres are taking place, but not in Palestine. :evil:

And where will they go? WE put them there. And yes, the Jews rule America, and if there was oil or gas then the yanks would be straight in there.



I just want, the Palestinians to be given their own rights and left alone and an independent army between them for a few yrs, it happens every where else.


This is what should happen, but its not going to. The Palestines have the right to live in their homeland in peace, as do the Jews who have been persecuted throughout history. It's a very delicate situation, one which I and I think most us do not understand fully. I hope the situation can be resolved so they can ALL live in peace.

Re: FAO ALL JEWS

Wed Dec 21, 2011 8:08 am

angelis49 wrote:Unless you are going to tell us why then your post was pretty pointless. :?

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Tony Blue Williams

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Dear Tony perhaps you would be so kind as to give us an in depth annalist regarding the the Palestine,Israeli dispute


Why? You’re the one making judgements on other people's opinion :roll:

I have already made a comment about the conflict and it is deeply complicated. I can see the argument from both sides. Jews have been persecuted for hundreds of years and having studied the holocaust I can understand why they literally shoot first and ask questions later.

On the flip side as I have already said if the same thing happened here in Wales i.e. the UN gave away my country to millions of foreigners then I'm sure I would have been a terrorist years ago.

The only way forward is a Palestinian state on the West Bank, with guaranteed safety built in for Israel. How we can get both sides to agree to that is the big problem.

Re: FAO ALL JEWS

Wed Dec 21, 2011 9:14 am

Saddam, Bin Laden , Gadaffi and now Kim Jong Il and who says Team America doesnt exist.....

Re: FAO ALL JEWS

Wed Dec 21, 2011 9:31 am

aj1927 wrote:Saddam, Bin Laden , Gadaffi and now Kim Jong Il and who says Team America doesnt exist.....


It's just the way the job market is going. Years ago being Megalomaniac dictator used to be a job for life, however, these days you never know what's coming next....

Re: FAO ALL JEWS

Wed Dec 21, 2011 9:59 am

greenlawler wrote:
alexc wrote:
Bridgend_bluebird wrote:
alexc wrote:Ok, this America bashing is getting silly.
Some of us Cardiff lads have American wives and half American kids.
Opinion is fine, bashing everyone in America is not opinion it is just stupidity.


I'm not bashing all americans at all. I'm having ago at their government.


Ok, guess it's a little paranoia on my side, Americans are a little different from us for sure but really in the main you would like them.


Ghee thanks Alex, I was starting to feel a little bullied.


They were talking about the government; the people are nice and friendly. :ayatollah:

Re: FAO ALL JEWS

Wed Dec 21, 2011 4:11 pm

adz-a32 wrote:
greenlawler wrote:
alexc wrote:
Bridgend_bluebird wrote:
alexc wrote:Ok, this America bashing is getting silly.
Some of us Cardiff lads have American wives and half American kids.
Opinion is fine, bashing everyone in America is not opinion it is just stupidity.


I'm not bashing all americans at all. I'm having ago at their government.


Ok, guess it's a little paranoia on my side, Americans are a little different from us for sure but really in the main you would like them.


Ghee thanks Alex, I was starting to feel a little bullied.


They were talking about the government; the people are nice and friendly. :ayatollah:


I know just messin around........As for your average American, most detest any sort of war or violence, they hate it that America is involved in these conflicts. I could go on about perception of American politics abroad, which is often unfair and biased, but I really hate politics....I studied it in University, and worked with a Presidential campaign, but swore them off about ten years ago.

Re: FAO ALL JEWS

Wed Dec 21, 2011 4:50 pm

greenlawler wrote:
adz-a32 wrote:
greenlawler wrote:
alexc wrote:
Bridgend_bluebird wrote:
alexc wrote:Ok, this America bashing is getting silly.
Some of us Cardiff lads have American wives and half American kids.
Opinion is fine, bashing everyone in America is not opinion it is just stupidity.


I'm not bashing all americans at all. I'm having ago at their government.


Ok, guess it's a little paranoia on my side, Americans are a little different from us for sure but really in the main you would like them.


Ghee thanks Alex, I was starting to feel a little bullied.


They were talking about the government; the people are nice and friendly. :ayatollah:


I know just messin around........As for your average American, most detest any sort of war or violence, they hate it that America is involved in these conflicts. I could go on about perception of American politics abroad, which is often unfair and biased, but I really hate politics....I studied it in University, and worked with a Presidential campaign, but swore them off about ten years ago.


I've got friends from the US and they were against the wars.

Re: FAO ALL JEWS

Wed Dec 21, 2011 4:56 pm

adz-a32 wrote:Happy Hanukkah. :ayatollah: :ayatollah:


And start sharing you tight cunts.

"Excuse me Rabbi!"

"Yes Moi Dear"

"Could you please borrow me 50 shekels!"............







"30 shekels? what on earth do you want 20 shekels for, moi dear, oi vey!"

Re: FAO ALL JEWS

Wed Dec 21, 2011 5:00 pm

taffyapple wrote:
adz-a32 wrote:Happy Hanukkah. :ayatollah: :ayatollah:


And start sharing you tight cunts.

"Excuse me Rabbi!"

"Yes Moi Dear"

"Could you please borrow me 50 shekels!"............







"30 shekels? what on earth do you want 20 shekels for, moi dear, oi vey!"


I'm not Jewish.

Re: FAO ALL JEWS

Wed Dec 21, 2011 5:17 pm

Leighton James Dont Like uS wrote:
Forever Blue wrote:
bluecityblue wrote:
Forever Blue wrote:And please now leave Palestine and let them live their lives in peace in their own country, America can clear out as well.

Its funny America gets involved in all the other countries where massacres are taking place, but not in Palestine. :evil:

And where will they go? WE put them there. And yes, the Jews rule America, and if there was oil or gas then the yanks would be straight in there.



I just want, the Palestinians to be given their own rights and left alone and an independent army between them for a few yrs, it happens every where else.









The sickening thing for the Palestinians is that They (Palestinians) and Their Leaders Actually welcomed Jewish People and lived side by side and considered Themselves Semetic Brethren for many centuries, Only when the American and British got involved did all the boll'x begin


Funny that. Might want to look at the census figures for the land when Britain held the mandate.

Jews were prohibited from entering.

Each palestinian woman would have had to have had 10 kids a year to sustain the population growth.

Which would lend itself to the theory it wasn't purely Jews moving into the land.

America got involved?

Who was involved in the main funding and emigration into the land by Jews? Clue; it wasn't America.

Re: FAO ALL JEWS

Wed Dec 21, 2011 5:39 pm

nerd wrote:
Leighton James Dont Like uS wrote:
Forever Blue wrote:
bluecityblue wrote:
Forever Blue wrote:And please now leave Palestine and let them live their lives in peace in their own country, America can clear out as well.

Its funny America gets involved in all the other countries where massacres are taking place, but not in Palestine. :evil:

And where will they go? WE put them there. And yes, the Jews rule America, and if there was oil or gas then the yanks would be straight in there.



I just want, the Palestinians to be given their own rights and left alone and an independent army between them for a few yrs, it happens every where else.










The sickening thing for the Palestinians is that They (Palestinians) and Their Leaders Actually welcomed Jewish People and lived side by side and considered Themselves Semetic Brethren for many centuries, Only when the American and British got involved did all the boll'x begin


Funny that. Might want to look at the census figures for the land when Britain held the mandate.

Jews were prohibited from entering.

Each palestinian woman would have had to have had 10 kids a year to sustain the population growth.

Which would lend itself to the theory it wasn't purely Jews moving into the land.

America got involved?

Who was involved in the main funding and emigration into the land by Jews? Clue; it wasn't America.


dee oirish?

Re: FAO ALL JEWS

Wed Dec 21, 2011 6:00 pm

Johnny Rythmn wrote:dee oirish?


Nope.

Re: FAO ALL JEWS

Wed Dec 21, 2011 6:09 pm

taffyapple wrote:
adz-a32 wrote:Happy Hanukkah. :ayatollah: :ayatollah:


And start sharing you tight cunts.

"Excuse me Rabbi!"

"Yes Moi Dear"

"Could you please borrow me 50 shekels!"............







"30 shekels? what on earth do you want 20 shekels for, moi dear, oi vey!"


What on EARTH made you think that was aimed at you?

Re: FAO ALL JEWS

Wed Dec 21, 2011 6:12 pm

taffyapple wrote:
taffyapple wrote:
adz-a32 wrote:Happy Hanukkah. :ayatollah: :ayatollah:


And start sharing you tight cunts.

"Excuse me Rabbi!"

"Yes Moi Dear"

"Could you please borrow me 50 shekels!"............







"30 shekels? what on earth do you want 20 shekels for, moi dear, oi vey!"


What on EARTH made you think that was aimed at you?


Dunno. Posting for the sake of it. Lemmie gues what he wants: 50 shekels for 50 shekels. ;)

Re: FAO ALL JEWS

Wed Dec 21, 2011 6:53 pm

Leighton James Dont Like uS wrote:
Forever Blue wrote:
bluecityblue wrote:
Forever Blue wrote:And please now leave Palestine and let them live their lives in peace in their own country, America can clear out as well.

Its funny America gets involved in all the other countries where massacres are taking place, but not in Palestine. :evil:

And where will they go? WE put them there. And yes, the Jews rule America, and if there was oil or gas then the yanks would be straight in there.



I just want, the Palestinians to be given their own rights and left alone and an independent army between them for a few yrs, it happens every where else.









The sickening thing for the Palestinians is that They (Palestinians) and Their Leaders Actually welcomed Jewish People and lived side by side and considered Themselves Semetic Brethren for many centuries, Only when the American and British got involved did all the boll'x begin, And the Arab and Jew Bedouin ties of Kinship that went back to the days of Abram got shafted by the outside influence, I must say at this point I have many Jewish and Muslim/Arab Friends that actually get on very well, and one of My Israeli Friends believes the way forward is a coalition Government of both Israel and Palestine of equal standing to attain real piece, And say's many People are of the same opinion back home, Like My Friends of both state's say there's little difference in Shalom /Salom . :old:


Probably the only sensible post on this thread. Everything else is just politics.

Politics is just ONE person reading up more on a subject than another person, it
doesnt make him any more right, it just gives him more ammunition to fire at a
weaker opponent. A true politician will steam in there, like a grown man punching
f**k out of a ten year old.

I noticed Angelis mugging someone off

"tell me what YOU know about the Arab/Israeli dispute!" (summat like that)

What he really means is "ive REALLY read up on it, lets have it!!"

The only FACT about it all, regarding Britain... We should NEVER have got involved
in the 'repatriation' (or theft) of Palestine in 1948

not our fight, none of our business.

Re: FAO ALL JEWS

Wed Dec 21, 2011 7:03 pm

taffyapple wrote:
Probably the only sensible post on this thread. Everything else is just politics.

Politics is just ONE person reading up more on a subject than another person, it
doesnt make him any more right, it just gives him more ammunition to fire at a
weaker opponent. A true politician will steam in there, like a grown man punching
f**k out of a ten year old.

I noticed Angelis mugging someone off

"tell me what YOU know about the Arab/Israeli dispute!" (summat like that)

What he really means is "ive REALLY read up on it, lets have it!!"

The only FACT about it all, regarding Britain... We should NEVER have got involved
in the 'repatriation' (or theft) of Palestine in 1948

not our fight, none of our business.


TBH I wouldn't knock anyone for reading up on a subject.

The world was a very different place in 1948 as it was only 3 years after the end of WW2 where 6 million Jews had been exterminated by the Nazi's.

The establishment of Israel was done with the best of intentions (by the UN not Britain) in trying to provide a safe haven for a people who had been persecuted for thousands of years.

However, not enough thought was given to the welfare of the displaced Palestinians and that's where the problems have stemmed from ever since.

If only Israel could be shown that a Palestinian state on the West Bank is the way ahead, there might be a chance for peace.

Re: FAO ALL JEWS

Wed Dec 21, 2011 10:27 pm

It's the government a lot of the people of Israel aren't all bad people we've been in Wars like Iraq when we shouldn't of been.

Re: FAO ALL JEWS

Wed Dec 21, 2011 10:31 pm

Cheltenham Blue. wrote:It's the government a lot of the people of Israel aren't all bad people we've been in Wars like Iraq when we shouldn't of been.



I agree, we should never have gone to Iraq.

Re: FAO ALL JEWS

Wed Dec 21, 2011 11:07 pm

Tony Blue Williams wrote:
aj1927 wrote:Saddam, Bin Laden , Gadaffi and now Kim Jong Il and who says Team America doesnt exist.....


It's just the way the job market is going. Years ago being Megalomaniac dictator used to be a job for life, however, these days you never know what's coming next....



It is a job for life still but the difference today is that it comes with an unsavory ending.

Re: FAO ALL JEWS

Thu Dec 22, 2011 4:19 am

Excellent debate.

Lefties get a right shoeing as usual but without the bitterness on the other board.

Only two things certain in life, you're born, you die.

Whatever happens in between is entirely up to you. You get one shot at a life, enjoy it.

Re: FAO ALL JEWS

Thu Dec 22, 2011 8:51 am

Bakedalasker wrote:
Tony Blue Williams wrote:
aj1927 wrote:Saddam, Bin Laden , Gadaffi and now Kim Jong Il and who says Team America doesnt exist.....


It's just the way the job market is going. Years ago being Megalomaniac dictator used to be a job for life, however, these days you never know what's coming next....



It is a job for life still but the difference today is that it comes with an unsavory ending.


So true.

Re: FAO ALL JEWS

Thu Dec 22, 2011 8:55 am

Willy the Wombat wrote:Excellent debate.

Lefties get a right shoeing as usual but without the bitterness on the other board.

Only two things certain in life, you're born, you die.

Whatever happens in between is entirely up to you. You get one shot at a life, enjoy it.


Just out of interest who are the 'Lefties?'

Is it the Israelis or Palestinians?

Re: FAO ALL JEWS

Thu Dec 22, 2011 8:59 am

Forever Blue wrote:
Cheltenham Blue. wrote:It's the government a lot of the people of Israel aren't all bad people we've been in Wars like Iraq when we shouldn't of been.



I agree, we should never have gone to Iraq.


:ayatollah: :ayatollah: :ayatollah:

Re: FAO ALL JEWS

Thu Dec 22, 2011 9:08 am

Cheltenham Blue. wrote:It's the government a lot of the people of Israel aren't all bad people we've been in Wars like Iraq when we shouldn't of been.


I have hated seeing body bags containing young men (some only 18 or 19 years of age) returning from Iraq and Afghanistan since the wars begun in 2001.

But as time has passed has some good come from it?

For example would we have had the Arab Spring which has seen several vicious dictators (including Gaddaffi) removed from power?

You could argue that the peoples of Egypt, Libya, Tunisia and possibly Syria would never have organised themselves against their rulers if there hadn't been military intervention by the US & UK in Iraq and Afghanistan, because those campaign’s have proved that vicious dictators and regimes like Saddam Husain and the Taliban were eminently beatable.

Re: FAO ALL JEWS

Thu Dec 22, 2011 7:33 pm

Tony Blue Williams wrote:
taffyapple wrote:
Probably the only sensible post on this thread. Everything else is just politics.

Politics is just ONE person reading up more on a subject than another person, it
doesnt make him any more right, it just gives him more ammunition to fire at a
weaker opponent. A true politician will steam in there, like a grown man punching
f**k out of a ten year old.

I noticed Angelis mugging someone off

"tell me what YOU know about the Arab/Israeli dispute!" (summat like that)

What he really means is "ive REALLY read up on it, lets have it!!"

The only FACT about it all, regarding Britain... We should NEVER have got involved
in the 'repatriation' (or theft) of Palestine in 1948

not our fight, none of our business.


TBH I wouldn't knock anyone for reading up on a subject.

The world was a very different place in 1948 as it was only 3 years after the end of WW2 where 6 million Jews had been exterminated by the Nazi's.

The establishment of Israel was done with the best of intentions (by the UN not Britain) in trying to provide a safe haven for a people who had been persecuted for thousands of years.

However, not enough thought was given to the welfare of the displaced Palestinians and that's where the problems have stemmed from ever since.

If only Israel could be shown that a Palestinian state on the West Bank is the way ahead, there might be a chance for peace.


Good Lord I'd never knock anyone for reading up on anything. But the FACTS
about Israel and Palestine are far from straightforward, so there are always
going to be differing views on it.

I personally think that the jews had a rough deal, particularly during WWII, but
for the World to say sorry by helping them shift the Palestinians was hypocrisy of
the highest order. Britain was the driving force, but America even back then was
putting the fuel in ;)

Re: FAO ALL JEWS

Thu Dec 22, 2011 8:27 pm

adz-a32 wrote:
Forever Blue wrote:
Cheltenham Blue. wrote:It's the government a lot of the people of Israel aren't all bad people we've been in Wars like Iraq when we shouldn't of been.



I agree, we should never have gone to Iraq.


:ayatollah: :ayatollah: :ayatollah:

agree we shouldnt be there but i support the men and women of the british armed forces.thats why help for heroes is so good as we can support the soldiers without having to agree with the reasons we,re involve in these places