WHY CARDIFF AND NOT SWANSEA?

Pretty sure Swansea used to have a Woodies Emporium as did Brizzle?? Havent been down there shopping for years but I'd imagine the pull of Cardiff retail wise would give us more 'top end' clothing stores than our second city.
Cardiff isn't the best but its like comparing London to Birmingham.
I don't know what you're getting at but your average WAG isnt short of a bob or two, so who cares where they spend their cash? Cardiff can only benefit from our cousin's premiership wages!!!

I'd say its more like comparing London to Hull!!!!

Wouldn't go that far, but I get your point. But would I rather live in London, or Cardiff? Not a chance. Give me the close knit community of Swansea, over better shops any day of the week. Folk are far friendlier down here, than the self important arrogance of your typical Londoner, and to a slightly lesser extent your typical Cardiffian. You can keep your John Lewis stores thank you very much. I'm more than happy in my "ugly, lovely town". And not forgetting of course, we've got premier league football.

I'm a "typical Cardiffian" and I believe we're far friendlier than the "typical Swansea person."

I've been a commuter between Neath and Cardiff for the past 19 years and the number of people travelling from Swansea to Cardiff has increased in recent years. We must be doing something right.

The envy will eat away at you and make you a bitter person, neighbour.

From which part of my post did you draw the conculsion that i'm envious of Cardiff? I thought i'd made it quite clear that I'm perfectly contented living in Swansea. You on the other hand, and correct me if I'm wrong here, are from Cardiff, and loved the place so much, decided to move to Neath?? As for your observation that there are more people travelling from Swansea to Cardiff in recent years, that sort of proves my point. People are happy to commute to Cardiff if thats where they happen to work, but choose to live in and around Swansea. Just like you.

You've jumped to a number of conclusions. Read it again with a responsible adult to help you.

Gentle reminder:

This is www.cardiffcityforum.co.uk

Pretty sure Swansea used to have a Woodies Emporium as did Brizzle?? Havent been down there shopping for years but I'd imagine the pull of Cardiff retail wise would give us more 'top end' clothing stores than our second city.
Cardiff isn't the best but its like comparing London to Birmingham.
I don't know what you're getting at but your average WAG isnt short of a bob or two, so who cares where they spend their cash? Cardiff can only benefit from our cousin's premiership wages!!!

I'd say its more like comparing London to Hull!!!!

Wouldn't go that far, but I get your point. But would I rather live in London, or Cardiff? Not a chance. Give me the close knit community of Swansea, over better shops any day of the week. Folk are far friendlier down here, than the self important arrogance of your typical Londoner, and to a slightly lesser extent your typical Cardiffian. You can keep your John Lewis stores thank you very much. I'm more than happy in my "ugly, lovely town". And not forgetting of course, we've got premier league football.

I'm a "typical Cardiffian" and I believe we're far friendlier than the "typical Swansea person."

I've been a commuter between Neath and Cardiff for the past 19 years and the number of people travelling from Swansea to Cardiff has increased in recent years. We must be doing something right.

The envy will eat away at you and make you a bitter person, neighbour.

From which part of my post did you draw the conculsion that i'm envious of Cardiff? I thought i'd made it quite clear that I'm perfectly contented living in Swansea. You on the other hand, and correct me if I'm wrong here, are from Cardiff, and loved the place so much, decided to move to Neath?? As for your observation that there are more people travelling from Swansea to Cardiff in recent years, that sort of proves my point. People are happy to commute to Cardiff if thats where they happen to work, but choose to live in and around Swansea. Just like you.

You've jumped to a number of conclusions. Read it again with a responsible adult to help you.

Gentle reminder:

This is http://www.cardiffcityforum.co.uk

Read it again and I fail to see that i've jumped to any conclusions as you've suggested. Possibly you're younger than i'd imagined, and the reason you moved to Neath is that you were too young to have any choice in the matter? That's fair enough, but surely you've now reached an age where you can move back to your beloved birthplace, but you choose to remain in Neath? Neath FFS! Doesn't make much sense to me. Care to enlighten me on any other conclusions I might have jumped to because I'm struggling to find an example?
As for your gentle reminder, Like I said earlier, I don't remember signing a disclaimer stating that I had to be a Cardiff city fan before being granted membership. I quite enjoy keeping your inflated ego's in check. Nothing wrong with that in my humble opinion.

Wilts, you and I have been down this road before. Even you eventually admitted in your own grudging way that I was right, and that the gower is very much a part of Swansea. I should know, I spent the first 28 years of my life living down the gower. Do I really have to dig up the link? I believe your words were something like.. we all know you're more or less right, but i don't care. Ring any bells? Yes, rover way is somewhat tucked away, but we all know its there. Same with Shirenewton. You seem to have conveniently forgotten about your "crap bits". Splott, adamsdown, riverside, ely, llanedeyrn, pentwyn, st mellons, grange town, bute town, etc etc. Would you call these places majestic? No, I thought not.

Swansea has far more shit areas than its more illustrious neighbour. My brother had the misfortune to live in swansea a few years back and the only decent area is killay. As for your argument about the Gower being swansea we all know that it comes under the wider administrative area. Places like Penarth are in the admin area of cardiff but are not actually part of the city of cardiff just like Llangennech , Caswell Bay etc are not part of the city of swansea.

You really know nothing whatsoever about Swansea, if you think Killay is the only decent area. Is Mumbles a dump? What about Derwen Fawr? Newton? Bishopston? Gowerton? Dunvant? Penclawdd? Three crosses? West Cross? Black Pill? Are they all dumps? No, they are not. Yes, Swansea has its rough council estates, but in my experience they are no worse, and in many cases not as bad as some of the rougher parts of Cardiff I mentioned earlier.
Moving on now to the "gower isn't part of Swansea" part of your arguement. Simply put, it is. Firstly Penarth has got nothing to do with Cardiff. It is in the same proximity, geographically speaking, but Penarth is in the Vale of Glamorgan. Therfor, nothing to do with Cardiff. You mentioned Caswell bay is not part of Swansea. This is the nearest hotel I could find to Caswell bay..
140 Langland Road,
Mumbles,
Swansea, <<< This bit means it is within the city of Swansea!!
SA3 4LU
United Kingdom

This same rule applies for every single address on the entire gower peninsula. Every single resident will end their address with the word Swansea. Nothing to do with wider administrative area's. It simply means that the gower is part of the city of Swansea. Just because they are not in the city centre, doesn't mean they are not part of the city of Swansea. Please tell me you're not still seriously disputing this?

YAWN

I'm guessing by your rather lame attempt at a retort that you've finally accepted that I'm right, and you're wrong? Again.

YAWN!!! jacks trying to claim outside areas as being theirs the pathetic, desperate, wankers.

Would you care to explain Murph why, in your opinion the gower is "an outside area"? I've gone to rather a lot of trouble to provide you with evidence as to why the gower is part of the city of Swansea. At least make an effort to provide contradictory evidence that this is not the case. Hearsay is simply not good enough. Please try harder.

most of our support is from rhondda? ye course it is
your really a small club that achieves 11k crowds. just like blackpool. u'll see when you come back down

I think James has made a perfectly valid point. Maybe not most of Cardiff's support comes from Rhondda and the valleys, but certainly a significant number do. Scroll through the contributors to this very thread and you'll see that they hail from such places as Treharris, Tonyrefail, Blackwood, Tonypandy, Aberdare, etc, etc. Therefor some of your supporters come from some of the most deprived areas, not just of Wales, but of the whole of Britain. So next time you look down your long noses at the good folk of Swansea, please remember that many of your own are from far more deprived, and undesirable parts of Wales than Swansea.

wouldnt class the blackwood area as deprived mate.. you only av to look at the property prices to see that!! i would choose a lot of valley towns and surrounding areas to live in well before swansea.. we also have 3 of the highest ranked secondary schools in the country , dont see many swansea schools with a goverment ranking of 1!!

obviously your geographical knowledge of anything outside of your hole is far beyond you!!

Property prices? Average price of a house in Blackwood finally broken the £25.000 mark has it? Congratulations, you must be over the moon. Didn't realise that Blackwood had become some kind of educational centre of excellence either. Christ, folk must be flocking there from all four corners of the globe for a better life.

f**k you dickhead!!!

25k!!! there are houses forsale in blackwood at higher prices than your so called prestigous blackpill area!! and yes your schools are shit.... and yes , residential numbers have increased thus so they are having to build a second ysgol gyfyn cwm rhymni to cope with the extra numbers....


bus stop in port talbot thats all f*cking swansea is...........



ps this must make you very proud to be awarded this


http://www.thisissouthwales.co.uk/City- ... story.html

most of our support is from rhondda? ye course it is

Evidently, it is..
viewtopic.php?f=2&t=66024

oh dear,

more good reasons to live and start a family in swansea... NOT..


http://www.socialistpartywales.org.uk/news76.shtml

Wilts, you and I have been down this road before. Even you eventually admitted in your own grudging way that I was right, and that the gower is very much a part of Swansea. I should know, I spent the first 28 years of my life living down the gower. Do I really have to dig up the link? I believe your words were something like.. we all know you're more or less right, but i don't care. Ring any bells? Yes, rover way is somewhat tucked away, but we all know its there. Same with Shirenewton. You seem to have conveniently forgotten about your "crap bits". Splott, adamsdown, riverside, ely, llanedeyrn, pentwyn, st mellons, grange town, bute town, etc etc. Would you call these places majestic? No, I thought not.

Swansea has far more shit areas than its more illustrious neighbour. My brother had the misfortune to live in swansea a few years back and the only decent area is killay. As for your argument about the Gower being swansea we all know that it comes under the wider administrative area. Places like Penarth are in the admin area of cardiff but are not actually part of the city of cardiff just like Llangennech , Caswell Bay etc are not part of the city of swansea.

You really know nothing whatsoever about Swansea, if you think Killay is the only decent area. Is Mumbles a dump? What about Derwen Fawr? Newton? Bishopston? Gowerton? Dunvant? Penclawdd? Three crosses? West Cross? Black Pill? Are they all dumps? No, they are not. Yes, Swansea has its rough council estates, but in my experience they are no worse, and in many cases not as bad as some of the rougher parts of Cardiff I mentioned earlier.
Moving on now to the "gower isn't part of Swansea" part of your arguement. Simply put, it is. Firstly Penarth has got nothing to do with Cardiff. It is in the same proximity, geographically speaking, but Penarth is in the Vale of Glamorgan. Therfor, nothing to do with Cardiff. You mentioned Caswell bay is not part of Swansea. This is the nearest hotel I could find to Caswell bay..
140 Langland Road,
Mumbles,
Swansea, <<< This bit means it is within the city of Swansea!!
SA3 4LU
United Kingdom

This same rule applies for every single address on the entire gower peninsula. Every single resident will end their address with the word Swansea. Nothing to do with wider administrative area's. It simply means that the gower is part of the city of Swansea. Just because they are not in the city centre, doesn't mean they are not part of the city of Swansea. Please tell me you're not still seriously disputing this?

YAWN

I'm guessing by your rather lame attempt at a retort that you've finally accepted that I'm right, and you're wrong? Again.

I'm not wrong. Cowbridge and Bonvilston both have Cardiff in their addresses and are not Cardiff. You are clueless and i'm not going to say any more on the matter. Face facts-the Gower is no more Swansea than Carmarthen or Llanelli.

http://www.e1buytoletmortgages.co.uk/ne ... -4361.html


we could keep going and going mate...


magicless sandals... you seem to be top of all the wrong leagues here!!!

Wilts, you and I have been down this road before. Even you eventually admitted in your own grudging way that I was right, and that the gower is very much a part of Swansea. I should know, I spent the first 28 years of my life living down the gower. Do I really have to dig up the link? I believe your words were something like.. we all know you're more or less right, but i don't care. Ring any bells? Yes, rover way is somewhat tucked away, but we all know its there. Same with Shirenewton. You seem to have conveniently forgotten about your "crap bits". Splott, adamsdown, riverside, ely, llanedeyrn, pentwyn, st mellons, grange town, bute town, etc etc. Would you call these places majestic? No, I thought not.

Swansea has far more shit areas than its more illustrious neighbour. My brother had the misfortune to live in swansea a few years back and the only decent area is killay. As for your argument about the Gower being swansea we all know that it comes under the wider administrative area. Places like Penarth are in the admin area of cardiff but are not actually part of the city of cardiff just like Llangennech , Caswell Bay etc are not part of the city of swansea.

You really know nothing whatsoever about Swansea, if you think Killay is the only decent area. Is Mumbles a dump? What about Derwen Fawr? Newton? Bishopston? Gowerton? Dunvant? Penclawdd? Three crosses? West Cross? Black Pill? Are they all dumps? No, they are not. Yes, Swansea has its rough council estates, but in my experience they are no worse, and in many cases not as bad as some of the rougher parts of Cardiff I mentioned earlier.
Moving on now to the "gower isn't part of Swansea" part of your arguement. Simply put, it is. Firstly Penarth has got nothing to do with Cardiff. It is in the same proximity, geographically speaking, but Penarth is in the Vale of Glamorgan. Therfor, nothing to do with Cardiff. You mentioned Caswell bay is not part of Swansea. This is the nearest hotel I could find to Caswell bay..
140 Langland Road,
Mumbles,
Swansea, <<< This bit means it is within the city of Swansea!!
SA3 4LU
United Kingdom

This same rule applies for every single address on the entire gower peninsula. Every single resident will end their address with the word Swansea. Nothing to do with wider administrative area's. It simply means that the gower is part of the city of Swansea. Just because they are not in the city centre, doesn't mean they are not part of the city of Swansea. Please tell me you're not still seriously disputing this?

YAWN

I'm guessing by your rather lame attempt at a retort that you've finally accepted that I'm right, and you're wrong? Again.

I'm not wrong. Cowbridge and Bonvilston both have Cardiff in their addresses and are not Cardiff. You are clueless and i'm not going to say any more on the matter. Face facts-the Gower is no more Swansea than Carmarthen or Llanelli.

Face facts you say? I've done nothing but provide you with the facts. If you can explain to me why the following address that I lived at for the first 28 years of my life isn't part of Swansea then I'll go away..
???
Penclawdd,
Swansea, <<<<<<<<< This surely is self explanatory!!
West Glamorgan
SA3???

I'm not some jack trying to lay claim to the gower as part of Swansea. I've lived most of my life down the gower and always regarded Penclawdd and the gower as very much part of Swansea, and for very good reason. Because they are!!
Why do you keep bringing Carmarthen and Llanelli into the equation? They're not even in the same county FFS! Same goes for cowbridge and bonvilston. They are in the vale of glamorgan. Not the city and county of Cardiff.

bonvilston does have cardiff on its address. i know its not cardiff same as gower is not swansea. i got porth on my address and i dont live there ffs.

bonvilston does have cardiff on its address. i know its not cardiff same as gower is not swansea. i got porth on my address and i dont live there ffs.

Tonyrefail is obviously such a depressing little slag heap of a town, that they couldn't be arsed to give it its own postal address, and so they lumped it in with the next shantytown down the valley, which happened to be porth. This has nothing to do with the ongoing debate about whether the gower is part of Swansea. It is. End of.

Lol,,you keep grasping at any thing to convince your selfs that you are better then us,,bless.
Now its the dress issue?all that's needed is to take a look at the pics your lot put up of your forum away trips ffs,,,looks like matalan in scumdiff is having a bummer xmas.
Yes ther are the better shops in scumdiff,,we all now that and we all now ther is more money ther and better wages,so ther for you should have better dressed fans,but that forum tells a diffrent story.

Lol,,you keep grasping at any thing to convince your selfs that you are better then us,,bless.
Now its the dress issue?all that's needed is to take a look at the pics your lot put up of your forum away trips ffs,,,looks like matalan in scumdiff is having a bummer xmas.
Yes ther are the better shops in scumdiff,,we all now that and we all now ther is more money ther and better wages,so ther for you should have better dressed fans,but that forum tells a diffrent story.

I love the way you lot (SCFC) call us Scumdiff. Makes us SCFC as well. Irony is a wonderful thing......

Lol,,you keep grasping at any thing to convince your selfs that you are better then us,,bless.
Now its the dress issue?all that's needed is to take a look at the pics your lot put up of your forum away trips ffs,,,looks like matalan in scumdiff is having a bummer xmas.
Yes ther are the better shops in scumdiff,,we all now that and we all now ther is more money ther and better wages,so ther for you should have better dressed fans,but that forum tells a diffrent story.

I love the way you lot (SCFC) call us Scumdiff. Makes us SCFC as well. Irony is a wonderful thing......

I've heared some pretty poor insults being thrown our way, but this one takes the biscuit. Talk about scraping the bottom of the barrel. An obscure an insult as you're likely to hear. C'mon wilts, you can do better than that. Must try harder!

Lol,,you keep grasping at any thing to convince your selfs that you are better then us,,bless.
Now its the dress issue?all that's needed is to take a look at the pics your lot put up of your forum away trips ffs,,,looks like matalan in scumdiff is having a bummer xmas.
Yes ther are the better shops in scumdiff,,we all now that and we all now ther is more money ther and better wages,so ther for you should have better dressed fans,but that forum tells a diffrent story.

I love the way you lot (SCFC) call us Scumdiff. Makes us SCFC as well. Irony is a wonderful thing......

I've heared some pretty poor insults being thrown our way, but this one takes the biscuit. Talk about scraping the bottom of the barrel. An obscure an insult as you're likely to hear. C'mon wilts, you can do better than that. Must try harder!

Back to the gower I see??..ffs every summer ther are swarms og your gypo familys down ther,so you realy would think that they world notice the signs in the area with a swansea crest,or the swansea council patroling the beach,,or even if you park illegal yoy get a fine issued by the city of swansea?what more is needed?,,,,by far swansea is the better place,,scumdiff better for shopping but to live and raise a family swansea all day...what apart from concert do yo have?,,o,yes your bay???stunning beach ther,,try to build a sand castle on it....swansea has its problems as every other city,,but we have somthing most will never have,,a natural sweeping bay,almost right up to our city center.great for kids,,I should now as use to be one

most of our support is from rhondda? ye course it is
your really a small club that achieves 11k crowds. just like blackpool. u'll see when you come back down

I think James has made a perfectly valid point. Maybe not most of Cardiff's support comes from Rhondda and the valleys, but certainly a significant number do. Scroll through the contributors to this very thread and you'll see that they hail from such places as Treharris, Tonyrefail, Blackwood, Tonypandy, Aberdare, etc, etc. Therefor some of your supporters come from some of the most deprived areas, not just of Wales, but of the whole of Britain. So next time you look down your long noses at the good folk of Swansea, please remember that many of your own are from far more deprived, and undesirable parts of Wales than Swansea.

wouldnt class the blackwood area as deprived mate.. you only av to look at the property prices to see that!! i would choose a lot of valley towns and surrounding areas to live in well before swansea.. we also have 3 of the highest ranked secondary schools in the country , dont see many swansea schools with a goverment ranking of 1!!

obviously your geographical knowledge of anything outside of your hole is far beyond you!!

Property prices? Average price of a house in Blackwood finally broken the £25.000 mark has it? Congratulations, you must be over the moon. Didn't realise that Blackwood had become some kind of educational centre of excellence either. Christ, folk must be flocking there from all four corners of the globe for a better life.

f**k you dickhead!!!

25k!!! there are houses forsale in blackwood at higher prices than your so called prestigous blackpill area!! and yes your schools are shit.... and yes , residential numbers have increased thus so they are having to build a second ysgol gyfyn cwm rhymni to cope with the extra numbers....


bus stop in port talbot thats all f*cking swansea is...........



ps this must make you very proud to be awarded this


http://www.thisissouthwales.co.uk/City- ... story.html

Ok, I take back the 25K remark, however, i've had a little look at how the house prices in blackwood compare to those in blackpill seeing as you brought it up. I picked a random online estate agents and compared like for like...

blackwood.. http://www.rightmove.co.uk/property-for ... &index=110

blackpill... http://www.rightmove.co.uk/property-for ... AED0F9F92B

there are houses forsale in blackwood at higher prices than your so called prestigous blackpill area!!

Really? Because from what I can see the most expensive house for sale in blackwood (£410,000) is a full £65,000 cheaper than the cheapest house for sale in blackpill. Incidentally, the most expensive house in blackpill is going for £750,000. Now i'm fully aware that this is just 1 website's results, and there are almost certainly more valuable houses for sale in blackwood, but I think you get the gist. That your claim is absolute gash.

Blackood is gwent ffs,,what the f**k are arguing about,,its got f**k all to do with scumdiff,,newport yes,,blackpill is swansea,,
Stop grasping you sad twats ffs,you live in a regional capitol,,we live in costal city,,,who gives a f*cking toss,,I would rather eat my own leg with pickled onions then live in cardiff,,and I'm sure you are the same,,,we are both realy small citys,,us more then you and wales is realy insignificant out side of wales if the truth be tould,,

Blackood is gwent ffs,,what the f**k are arguing about,,its got f**k all to do with scumdiff,,newport yes,,blackpill is swansea,,
Stop grasping you sad twats ffs,you live in a regional capitol,,we live in costal city,,,who gives a f*cking toss,,I would rather eat my own leg with pickled onions then live in cardiff,,and I'm sure you are the same,,,we are both realy small citys,,us more then you and wales is realy insignificant out side of wales if the truth be tould,,

keep your pretty beaches. how many times do you get to use them with our shit weather, once or twice a year. swansea is a stinking city full of stinking scruffy people. i went to my works xmas pissup in cardiff on the weekend and there were jacks there, enjoying a day out in a proper city.

Lol a proper city??is murphy not a tinker name,,,..and as for our beaches,,u lot seem to find more then 2days to spend time down here and use them,,u f*cking gypo..yes folk do gi to your city for a change but come home to swansea,,and by the way swansea by far a better night out then scumdiff,,,

Lol a proper city??is murphy not a tinker name,,,..and as for our beaches,,u lot seem to find more then 2days to spend time down here and use them,,u f*cking gypo..yes folk do gi to your city for a change but come home to swansea,,and by the way swansea by far a better night out then scumdiff,,,

He is a bit of a beaut isn't he? For starters, his name is murphy. Thats already a bit of a give away. He lives in a depressing little shantytown called tonyrefail. I sympathise with these ex-mining communties and what thatcher did to them, I really do, but lets be honest here.. even in their hay day these places were hovels. He supports a team whose city is crawling with pikey tinkers, and he's still got the bare faced cheek to say we're stinking scruffy gypo's etc. Take a long hard look in the mirror murphy!

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Wouldn't go that far, but I get your point. But would I rather live in London, or Cardiff? Not a chance. Give me the close knit community of Swansea, over better shops any day of the week. Folk are far friendlier down here, than the self important arrogance of your typical Londoner, and to a slightly lesser extent your typical Cardiffian. You can keep your John Lewis stores thank you very much. I'm more than happy in my "ugly, lovely town". And not forgetting of course, we've got premier league football.

I'm a "typical Cardiffian" and I believe we're far friendlier than the "typical Swansea person."

I've been a commuter between Neath and Cardiff for the past 19 years and the number of people travelling from Swansea to Cardiff has increased in recent years. We must be doing something right.

The envy will eat away at you and make you a bitter person, neighbour.

From which part of my post did you draw the conculsion that i'm envious of Cardiff? I thought i'd made it quite clear that I'm perfectly contented living in Swansea. You on the other hand, and correct me if I'm wrong here, are from Cardiff, and loved the place so much, decided to move to Neath?? As for your observation that there are more people travelling from Swansea to Cardiff in recent years, that sort of proves my point. People are happy to commute to Cardiff if thats where they happen to work, but choose to live in and around Swansea. Just like you.

You've jumped to a number of conclusions. Read it again with a responsible adult to help you.

Gentle reminder:

This is http://www.cardiffcityforum.co.uk[/quote]

Read it again and I fail to see that i've jumped to any conclusions as you've suggested. Possibly you're younger than i'd imagined, and the reason you moved to Neath is that you were too young to have any choice in the matter? That's fair enough, but surely you've now reached an age where you can move back to your beloved birthplace, but you choose to remain in Neath? Neath FFS! Doesn't make much sense to me. Care to enlighten me on any other conclusions I might have jumped to because I'm struggling to find an example?
As for your gentle reminder, Like I said earlier, I don't remember signing a disclaimer stating that I had to be a Cardiff city fan before being granted membership. I quite enjoy keeping your inflated ego's in check. Nothing wrong with that in my humble opinion.[/quote]

You have, sonny.

Take a guess at how old I am and look at the photo in my avatar which I took on the pitch at Turf Moor in 1988.

I don't have an inflated ego and I'm guessing that you're a lot younger than me:

a) due to your attitude on here and the fact that you're getting so wound up about trivia and

b) because you spelt it "ego's" rather than egos.

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Wouldn't go that far, but I get your point. But would I rather live in London, or Cardiff? Not a chance. Give me the close knit community of Swansea, over better shops any day of the week. Folk are far friendlier down here, than the self important arrogance of your typical Londoner, and to a slightly lesser extent your typical Cardiffian. You can keep your John Lewis stores thank you very much. I'm more than happy in my "ugly, lovely town". And not forgetting of course, we've got premier league football.

I'm a "typical Cardiffian" and I believe we're far friendlier than the "typical Swansea person."

I've been a commuter between Neath and Cardiff for the past 19 years and the number of people travelling from Swansea to Cardiff has increased in recent years. We must be doing something right.

The envy will eat away at you and make you a bitter person, neighbour.

From which part of my post did you draw the conculsion that i'm envious of Cardiff? I thought i'd made it quite clear that I'm perfectly contented living in Swansea. You on the other hand, and correct me if I'm wrong here, are from Cardiff, and loved the place so much, decided to move to Neath?? As for your observation that there are more people travelling from Swansea to Cardiff in recent years, that sort of proves my point. People are happy to commute to Cardiff if thats where they happen to work, but choose to live in and around Swansea. Just like you.

You've jumped to a number of conclusions. Read it again with a responsible adult to help you.

Gentle reminder:

This is http://www.cardiffcityforum.co.uk

Read it again and I fail to see that i've jumped to any conclusions as you've suggested. Possibly you're younger than i'd imagined, and the reason you moved to Neath is that you were too young to have any choice in the matter? That's fair enough, but surely you've now reached an age where you can move back to your beloved birthplace, but you choose to remain in Neath? Neath FFS! Doesn't make much sense to me. Care to enlighten me on any other conclusions I might have jumped to because I'm struggling to find an example?
As for your gentle reminder, Like I said earlier, I don't remember signing a disclaimer stating that I had to be a Cardiff city fan before being granted membership. I quite enjoy keeping your inflated ego's in check. Nothing wrong with that in my humble opinion.[/quote]

You have, sonny.

Take a guess at how old I am and look at the photo in my avatar which I took on the pitch at Turf Moor in 1988.

I don't have an inflated ego and I'm guessing that you're a lot younger than me:

a) due to your attitude on here and the fact that you're getting so wound up about trivia and

b) because you spelt it "ego's" rather than egos.[/quote]

Apologies for my grammar, i'll try to ensure it doesn't happen again.
That aside, you still havn't elaborated on the conclusions that you've accused me of jumping to. You instead preferred to concentrate on a minor error in my grammar. I'm still awaiting your elaborations. P.s, i'm 38yrs old. Not that I see that it makes much difference in context of the debate we're having.

It's not much of a debate, neighbour, it has to be said.

I'm 46 years old.

The start of this thread referred to Swansea players' wives and girlfriends shopping in Cardiff, rather than Swansea. I would much rather do the same - not because I dislike Swansea, as such, but due to the fact that Cardiff has more to offer.

I see many people from Swansea travel to Cardiff on a daily basis to shop there.

Anything else you want me to clarify?

It's not much of a debate, neighbour, it has to be said.

I'm 46 years old.

The start of this thread referred to Swansea players' wives and girlfriends shopping in Cardiff, rather than Swansea. I would much rather do the same - not because I dislike Swansea, as such, but due to the fact that Cardiff has more to offer.

I see many people from Swansea travel to Cardiff on a daily basis to shop there.

Anything else you want me to clarify?

Yes, you accused me of jumping to conclusions. I'm still awaiting an example. Ta

It's not much of a debate, neighbour, it has to be said.

I'm 46 years old.

The start of this thread referred to Swansea players' wives and girlfriends shopping in Cardiff, rather than Swansea. I would much rather do the same - not because I dislike Swansea, as such, but due to the fact that Cardiff has more to offer.

I see many people from Swansea travel to Cardiff on a daily basis to shop there.

Anything else you want me to clarify?

Yes, you accused me of jumping to conclusions. I'm still awaiting an example. Ta

Lots of them. Assuming I was young and didn't have a choice about my move was one.

Do I have to spell everything out for you, or can you use your own initiative a little?

Come on now, administrationdaps, make an effort.

Lol,,you keep grasping at any thing to convince your selfs that you are better then us,,bless.
Now its the dress issue?all that's needed is to take a look at the pics your lot put up of your forum away trips ffs,,,looks like matalan in scumdiff is having a bummer xmas.
Yes ther are the better shops in scumdiff,,we all now that and we all now ther is more money ther and better wages,so ther for you should have better dressed fans,but that forum tells a diffrent story.

I love the way you lot (SCFC) call us Scumdiff. Makes us SCFC as well. Irony is a wonderful thing......

I've heared some pretty poor insults being thrown our way, but this one takes the biscuit. Talk about scraping the bottom of the barrel. An obscure an insult as you're likely to hear. C'mon wilts, you can do better than that. Must try harder!

I can throw hundreds of insults if you want me too. I was passing comment on the irony of Swansealad69 calling us Scumdiff City.

Take away the city center and your so called bay,and cardiff is no more then swansea,,yes u have better shops,,but you get more investment so off course u got a better shopping center,,as for people from swansea going ther,,many of your trailer trash allso come here,so where u are going with that f**k nows.And best of all many of u slag us off and say how stunning cardiff is,yet many of u live in what has to be the bog of wales,the rhondda,,and let's face it every town ther is a shit hole with no better future then f*cking Kabul,so to take the pis out of swansea when the vast majority of your fans are real thick backward cunts is nothing more then grasping at straws,,and by the way?why do u seem to think we are gypos?please don't repy with twin town,,,as if u do then is star wars real? do realy think that captain kirk and spok realy are out ther bowldly going Where no man as gone before? ??

Take away the city center and your so called bay,and cardiff is no more then swansea,,yes u have better shops,,but you get more investment so off course u got a better shopping center,,as for people from swansea going ther,,many of your trailer trash allso come here,so where u are going with that f**k nows.And best of all many of u slag us off and say how stunning cardiff is,yet many of u live in what has to be the bog of wales,the rhondda,,and let's face it every town ther is a shit hole with no better future then f*cking Kabul,so to take the pis out of swansea when the vast majority of your fans are real thick backward cunts is nothing more then grasping at straws,,and by the way?why do u seem to think we are gypos?please don't repy with twin town,,,as if u do then is star wars real? do realy think that captain kirk and spok realy are out ther bowldly going Where no man as gone before? ??

look how wound up you gypo's are getting, if you aint gypo's then why are you so bothered what we say whether you like it or not Cardiff is greater than swansea....FACT. theres just no competition. silly gypo