WDL to be exposed tonight

I give up, you're clearly too stupid to understand.
Good night.

You, my son, have clearly been rumbled.

As i posted earlier. Say the word RACIST to someone like you and you
will immediately think of bald tattooed white people with pit-bulls and
shiny boots.

A black person who dont like white people... you would call 'oppressed'

here is the muslim council for wales " imposing " islam on wales tony

http://www.guardian.co.uk/cardiff/2010/ ... kers-roath



loads more examples of them having a go at the extremists

By the same score Sludge the WDL said in the Week In Week Out programme that they didn't want racists in their ranks; so how do we know that the MCW are any different?


can you provide me with any evidence of racist activity in the MCW ?

why dont you investigate ?




Personally I think calling themselves by that name (Muslim Council for Wales) is very insensitive and divisive.

possibly , about the only thing I agree with you

If you call yourself the 'Welsh Defence League' or 'English Defence League' you are bound to be labelled racist whether you are or not.

However, I am always baffled how organisations such as the self appointed 'Muslim Council for Wales' are allowed to get away without being branded as racist.

The very nature of their title tells you they wish to impose Islam on Wales which is not only racist; it is extremely fascist by showing complete intolerance to all non-Muslims.

In the interest of balance may be the BBC should be investigating these organisations to find out exactly what they stand for?

ARE U HAVING A LAUGH TONY ?

THE MUSLIM COUNCIL FOR WALES DONT IN ANY WAY WANT TO IMPOSE ISLAM ON WALES ...GIVE ME THE DETAILS OF WHERE THEY SAY THAT

I HAD YOU DOWN AS A BIT BRIGHTER THAN MAKING SUCH DAFT STATEMENTS

YOU CAN CONTACT THEM ANY TIME

THEY DONT WEAR BALACLAVAS

Sludge you have an annoying habbit (very similar to what TLG used to do) of isolating part of the post for your own agenda. If you had bothered to read the whole post and take into context what I said you would understand that by calling themselves 'The Muslim Council for Wales' they give the preception of wishing to impose Islam on the rest of us.

It is the exact same perception which is gained from an organisation calling themselves 'The Welsh Defence League' and being branded as racist.

My point is if the MCW are to continue to call themselves by this name then BBC should investigate them in the name of balanced broadcasting.

actually your view is even more daft than I first read it ..according to your post which you wrote , it says they are trying to impose islam , they are rascist and facist !!

tony , dont be daft

what you need to do is send them an email and ask for information about their background etc instead of making things up on here

honestly , you are coming over daft

the muslim community in cardiff has been here for over 100 years , ist the oldest in the uk and has the oldest mosque which was in the old peel street in the docks

there are muslim extremists but they aint trying to take over wales

taffy apple are u related to the sultana family ?

went to school with rita

Semini's but only got one auntie down there now and her surname is now Mahoney
(i dont agree with these mixed marriages, as you can imagine )

the muslim community in cardiff has been here for over 100 years , ist the oldest in the uk and has the oldest mosque which was in the old peel street in the docks

there are muslim extremists but they aint trying to take over wales[/quote]

The Saudi Wahabbi sect may have something to say about that Sludge
As would Anjem Choudary and his mental minions!!!

Their particular form of Islam is rather all-encompassing... strict sharia law, no
other religions allowed etc etc etc. They are pumping billions into mosques and
Islamic cultural centres. Like our Malaysian owners... they will want something
in return. There are already Sharia councils all over Britain, do you think these
will flourish and grow in number, or lessen over the next few years? Given of
course that the Sharia believes Islam shall dominate the world

actually your view is even more daft than I first read it ..according to your post which you wrote , it says they are trying to impose islam , they are rascist and facist !!

tony , dont be daft

what you need to do is send them an email and ask for information about their background etc instead of making things up on here

honestly , you are coming over daft

the muslim community in cardiff has been here for over 100 years , ist the oldest in the uk and has the oldest mosque which was in the old peel street in the docks

there are muslim extremists but they aint trying to take over wales

Again Sludge you are isolating my quotes for your own agenda by taking them completely out of context. Unfortunately people who do that kid themselves that they a clever whilst everyone else is daft.

By the same score you could Email the Welsh Defence League and ask them are they racists? I would imagine they would say no, would you believe them? I’m sure I would get the same result if I Emailed the Muslim Council for Wales.

It is not Muslim's from 100 years ago who are the problem, it's those who have arrived in the past 30 years in huge numbers. They now believe they can self-appoint an organisation called 'Muslim Council for Wales' which has all the connotations of Islam4UK or Islam against Crusaders who abuse our returning troops and wish to hold protest marches through Wooten Bassett.

Those actions and the name Muslim Council for Wales is enough to suggest intolerance towards anything or anyone who isn't Muslim. It is the exact same perception as The Welsh Defence League who branded racist because they wish to defend the Welsh culture (or so they say).

As for Muslim extremists I firstly point to the 2 organisations above and secondly to the 7/7 bombers. With such vile behaviour I believe that the BBC has a duty to investigate its activities simply because they are going by such a divisive name.

If you think that’s daft the personally I happy to be daft.

taffy apple are u related to the sultana family ?

went to school with rita

Semini's but only got one auntie down there now and her surname is now Mahoney
(i dont agree with these mixed marriages, as you can imagine )

ugarte ?

the muslim community in cardiff has been here for over 100 years , ist the oldest in the uk and has the oldest mosque which was in the old peel street in the docks

there are muslim extremists but they aint trying to take over wales

The Saudi Wahabbi sect may have something to say about that Sludge
As would Anjem Choudary and his mental minions!!!

Their particular form of Islam is rather all-encompassing... strict sharia law, no
other religions allowed etc etc etc. They are pumping billions into mosques and
Islamic cultural centres. Like our Malaysian owners... they will want something
in return. There are already Sharia councils all over Britain, do you think these
will flourish and grow in number, or lessen over the next few years? Given of
course that the Sharia believes Islam shall dominate the world[/quote]


but are they in cardiffs mosques ?

which is what tony is saying ..in fact hes saying it again

actually your view is even more daft than I first read it ..according to your post which you wrote , it says they are trying to impose islam , they are rascist and facist !!

tony , dont be daft

what you need to do is send them an email and ask for information about their background etc instead of making things up on here

honestly , you are coming over daft

the muslim community in cardiff has been here for over 100 years , ist the oldest in the uk and has the oldest mosque which was in the old peel street in the docks

there are muslim extremists but they aint trying to take over wales

Again Sludge you are isolating my quotes for your own agenda by taking them completely out of context. Unfortunately people who do that kid themselves that they a clever whilst everyone else is daft.

NO I AM JUST REPEATING WHAT YOU HAVE SAID ..UNLESS SOMEONE ELSE SAID IT

By the same score you could Email the Welsh Defence League and ask them are they racists? I would imagine they would say no, would you believe them? I’m sure I would get the same result if I Emailed the Muslim Council for Wales.

NO , DONT NEED TO , ..THE EDL IS WELL KNOWN FOR ITS RACIST VIEWS ...UNLESS YOU ARE SAYING THE BBC MADE IT ALL UP
I AM ASKING YOU TO STOP LARKING ABOUT AND TELL ME WHAT YOU KNO ABOUT THE MCWS PLANS FOR IMPOSING ISLAM

It is not Muslim's from 100 years ago who are the problem, it's those who have arrived in the past 30 years in huge numbers. They now believe they can self-appoint an organisation called 'Muslim Council for Wales' which has all the connotations of Islam4UK or Islam against Crusaders who abuse our returning troops and wish to hold protest marches through Wooten Bassett.

IT MIGHT HAVE CONNOTATIONS FOR YOU BUT YOU ARE CLEARLY FECKING PARANOID AS YOU SEEM TO BE MAKING UP STUFF AS YOU GO ALONG

WHAT THE FECK IS THIS LATEST BEAUTY ?..THE MUSLIM COUNCIL FOR WALES IS NOW BEING LINKED TO THE ISLAM AGAINST CRUSADERS NUTTERS ?

TONY , GIVE UP , YOU ARE DIGGING A HOLE AGAIN MATE



Those actions and the name Muslim Council for Wales is enough to suggest intolerance towards anything or anyone who isn't Muslim. It is the exact same perception as The Welsh Defence League who branded racist because they wish to defend the Welsh culture (or so they say).

WHAT ?....WHERES THAT THEN ?

As for Muslim extremists I firstly point to the 2 organisations above and secondly to the 7/7 bombers. With such vile behaviour I believe that the BBC has a duty to investigate its activities simply because they are going by such a divisive name.


THEY HAVE , AND CHANNEL 4 !!..GOOGLE IT , ITS ON YOU TUBE ..LET THE AUTHORITIES DEAL WITH THESE PSYCHOS AND STOP MAKING THINGS UP

If you think that’s daft the personally I happy to be daft.

NICE GUY YOU ARE MATE , BUT A BIT POTTY TONIGHT

HERE IS HOW THEM DAMN MUSLIMS TRIED TO INDOCTRINATE ME IN CARDIFF

WENT SHOPPING FOR SOME CDS

SOME FELLA COMES UP TO ME AND ASKS ME IF I AM A MAN OF FAITH

I SAYS " NO "

HE SAYS " I AM A MUSLIM , PLEASE COULD YOU TAKE SOME TIME TO READ THIS LEAFLET ? "

I SAY " YES MATE , NO PROBLEM "

HE SAYS " PEACE TO YOU "

I SAY " AND YOU MATE , TAKE CARE "

THEN I WENT SHOPPING

WHEN I GOT HOME IT WAS A LEAFLET ABOUT ALL PEOPLE RESPECTING EACH OTHER

I WAS TERRIFIED SO I PHONED THE POLICE

HE WAS CLEARLY TRYING TO IMPOSE ISLAM ON ME AND SHAG MY MISSUS AND MOVE IN NEXT DOOR

GOOD NIGHT

SHALOM

the muslim community in cardiff has been here for over 100 years , ist the oldest in the uk and has the oldest mosque which was in the old peel street in the docks

there are muslim extremists but they aint trying to take over wales

The Saudi Wahabbi sect may have something to say about that Sludge
As would Anjem Choudary and his mental minions!!!

Their particular form of Islam is rather all-encompassing... strict sharia law, no
other religions allowed etc etc etc. They are pumping billions into mosques and
Islamic cultural centres. Like our Malaysian owners... they will want something
in return. There are already Sharia councils all over Britain, do you think these
will flourish and grow in number, or lessen over the next few years? Given of
course that the Sharia believes Islam shall dominate the world

but are they in cardiffs mosques ?

which is what tony is saying ..in fact hes saying it again[/quote]

One thing is certain, there is a movement amongst some Muslims
in Cardiff to set up Sharia Law tribunals. Im assuming these Muslims
attend Mosques in the City. Sharia law is totally and fundamentally
opposed to our way of life. Again, if this happens, it will mean there
will be an OFFICIAL body in the Capital that denounces democracy,
Christianity, Gays, Women in the workplace. That believes one mans
word is worth more than that of two women.

Sharia law is far more divisive and racist and facist than anything the
'knuckle draggers' could ever think of!

I wish these angry young boys would vent their anger at the real enemy.

The bankers, arms dealers and oil barons.

The planet is falling to bits and these lads think it's a few dark skinned chaps that are to blame for all and sundry ...... MUGS!

actually your view is even more daft than I first read it ..according to your post which you wrote , it says they are trying to impose islam , they are rascist and facist !!

tony , dont be daft

what you need to do is send them an email and ask for information about their background etc instead of making things up on here

honestly , you are coming over daft

the muslim community in cardiff has been here for over 100 years , ist the oldest in the uk and has the oldest mosque which was in the old peel street in the docks

there are muslim extremists but they aint trying to take over wales

Again Sludge you are isolating my quotes for your own agenda by taking them completely out of context. Unfortunately people who do that kid themselves that they a clever whilst everyone else is daft.

NO I AM JUST REPEATING WHAT YOU HAVE SAID ..UNLESS SOMEONE ELSE SAID IT

By the same score you could Email the Welsh Defence League and ask them are they racists? I would imagine they would say no, would you believe them? I’m sure I would get the same result if I Emailed the Muslim Council for Wales.

NO , DONT NEED TO , ..THE EDL IS WELL KNOWN FOR ITS RACIST VIEWS ...UNLESS YOU ARE SAYING THE BBC MADE IT ALL UP
I AM ASKING YOU TO STOP LARKING ABOUT AND TELL ME WHAT YOU KNO ABOUT THE MCWS PLANS FOR IMPOSING ISLAM

It is not Muslim's from 100 years ago who are the problem, it's those who have arrived in the past 30 years in huge numbers. They now believe they can self-appoint an organisation called 'Muslim Council for Wales' which has all the connotations of Islam4UK or Islam against Crusaders who abuse our returning troops and wish to hold protest marches through Wooten Bassett.

IT MIGHT HAVE CONNOTATIONS FOR YOU BUT YOU ARE CLEARLY FECKING PARANOID AS YOU SEEM TO BE MAKING UP STUFF AS YOU GO ALONG

WHAT THE FECK IS THIS LATEST BEAUTY ?..THE MUSLIM COUNCIL FOR WALES IS NOW BEING LINKED TO THE ISLAM AGAINST CRUSADERS NUTTERS ?

TONY , GIVE UP , YOU ARE DIGGING A HOLE AGAIN MATE



Those actions and the name Muslim Council for Wales is enough to suggest intolerance towards anything or anyone who isn't Muslim. It is the exact same perception as The Welsh Defence League who branded racist because they wish to defend the Welsh culture (or so they say).

WHAT ?....WHERES THAT THEN ?

As for Muslim extremists I firstly point to the 2 organisations above and secondly to the 7/7 bombers. With such vile behaviour I believe that the BBC has a duty to investigate its activities simply because they are going by such a divisive name.


THEY HAVE , AND CHANNEL 4 !!..GOOGLE IT , ITS ON YOU TUBE ..LET THE AUTHORITIES DEAL WITH THESE PSYCHOS AND STOP MAKING THINGS UP

If you think that’s daft the personally I happy to be daft.

NICE GUY YOU ARE MATE , BUT A BIT POTTY TONIGHT

Sludge amazing I give a clear and precise answer and respond with abuse. Argument over I win.

You, my son, have clearly been rumbled.
'

Not at all, I'm just fed up of banging my head against a brick wall.

You, my son, have clearly been rumbled.
'

Not at all, I'm just fed up of banging my head against a brick wall.

Please dont stop just do it a bit harder

tony stop playing schoolboy now

answer the question

where is your evidence this welsh muslim group you have brought up are trying to impose islam on us ?

still waiting to see it

here is the muslim council for wales " imposing " islam on wales tony

http://www.guardian.co.uk/cardiff/2010/ ... kers-roath



loads more examples of them having a go at the extremists

wheres tony gone ?

the muslim community in cardiff has been here for over 100 years , ist the oldest in the uk and has the oldest mosque which was in the old peel street in the docks

there are muslim extremists but they aint trying to take over wales

The Saudi Wahabbi sect may have something to say about that Sludge
As would Anjem Choudary and his mental minions!!!

Their particular form of Islam is rather all-encompassing... strict sharia law, no
other religions allowed etc etc etc. They are pumping billions into mosques and
Islamic cultural centres. Like our Malaysian owners... they will want something
in return. There are already Sharia councils all over Britain, do you think these
will flourish and grow in number, or lessen over the next few years? Given of
course that the Sharia believes Islam shall dominate the world

but are they in cardiffs mosques ?

which is what tony is saying ..in fact hes saying it again

One thing is certain, there is a movement amongst some Muslims
in Cardiff to set up Sharia Law tribunals.

certain or you think ?

Im assuming these Muslims
attend Mosques in the City.


assuming again mate


Sharia law is totally and fundamentally
opposed to our way of life. Again, if this happens, it will mean there
will be an OFFICIAL body in the Capital that denounces democracy,
Christianity, Gays, Women in the workplace. That believes one mans
word is worth more than that of two women.

Sharia law is far more divisive and racist and facist than anything the
'knuckle draggers' could ever think of![/quote]


agree , but its not going to happen

Get your head out of the sand Sludge. we are being invaded taken over.
There is 4 offs when you enter a Mosque its shoes off socks off sawn off safety off

Here's a question for all you fellers who are saving Wales from the evils of
fascism/racism and Nazism.

Hundreds turned out to oppose the EDL march in Cardiff. Black white asian
and the obligatory crusty middle-class students stinking of lentils.

Why was there no counter demonstration when the Choudary group done
their protest outside City Hall?

I await your answers in melancholy mood, cos there can be only one answer from you.

and its absolute hypocritical bollocks

I wish these angry young boys would vent their anger at the real enemy.

The bankers, arms dealers and oil barons.

The planet is falling to bits and these lads think it's a few dark skinned chaps that are to blame for all and sundry ...... MUGS!

Amen to that .

TAFFYAPPLE, there is absolutely no point in any sane person responding to your posts because you have already decided it will be 'hypocritical bollox'. You have previous history with many, it is a thankless task to try and have a reasoned debate/discussion with you.
A shame because you speak with some sense on issues relating to the city but on issues relating to race relations.......most will eventually give up......

I wish these angry young boys would vent their anger at the real enemy.

The bankers, arms dealers and oil barons.

The planet is falling to bits and these lads think it's a few dark skinned chaps that are to blame for all and sundry ...... MUGS!

Amen to that .

Conveniently forgetting to mention that a number of these dark-skinned bearded
chaps blame us pink skinned Christians for all the ills of the world and actually want
to see us wiped off the face of the earth.

TAFFYAPPLE, there is absolutely no point in any sane person responding to your posts because you have already decided it will be 'hypocritical bollox'. You have previous history with many, it is a thankless task to try and have a reasoned debate/discussion with you.
A shame because you speak with some sense on issues relating to the city but on issues relating to race relations.......most will eventually give up......

Try!!

It was a simple question.

If the fascist/racist/nazi BNP or EDL or WDL plan a meeting or protest, hundreds and hundreds
of people in Britain turn out to attack them.

Where are these people when Anjem Choudary is spouting off in public. Surely he is also a
facist/racist nazi.

when they were on the bus and singing "if you hate p***'s, clap your hands". there were two men at the front not singing or clapping, are they racists?

TAFFYAPPLE, there is absolutely no point in any sane person responding to your posts because you have already decided it will be 'hypocritical bollox'. You have previous history with many, it is a thankless task to try and have a reasoned debate/discussion with you.
A shame because you speak with some sense on issues relating to the city but on issues relating to race relations.......most will eventually give up......

I agree with race relations. Something to work on.

What Britain ACTUALLY endorses is race APPEASEMENT

TAFFYAPPLE, there is absolutely no point in any sane person responding to your posts because you have already decided it will be 'hypocritical bollox'. You have previous history with many, it is a thankless task to try and have a reasoned debate/discussion with you.
A shame because you speak with some sense on issues relating to the city but on issues relating to race relations.......most will eventually give up......

Try!!

It was a simple question.

If the fascist/racist/nazi BNP or EDL or WDL plan a meeting or protest, hundreds and hundreds
of people in Britain turn out to attack them.

Where are these people when Anjem Choudary is spouting off in public. Surely he is also a
facist/racist nazi.

This appears to have stumped them

That documetary was total shite. The underover reporter could only get two jack numptees to talk to him, the rest fucked him off!


Anyway.......
I had to take my 6year old granddaughter from severn road school in cardiff and move her up the road because the teachers were telling the white kids to draw pictures while they taught the majority of kids basic english, because when they go home they speak their native tongues. Most of them i'd say are muslims or their parents are just lazy bastards who can't be bothered changing from their pyjamas before they take their kids to school.

I have also learned that their is a bullying policy against white kids in that school so now she has been going karate for the last year.

My family were immigrants but adapted in most aspects and I do feel their is a responsibility of immigrants to tow the line somewhat but it is the schools and government that should be the target in any demonstrations and not the muslims themselves.

I haven't a clue what the future holds but i'll take it all in my stride and wont be abusing anyone over their beliefs or culture or creed..................................except the english (worse shower of bastards ever to walk this planet)

That documetary was total shite. The underover reporter could only get two jack numptees to talk to him, the rest fucked him off!


Anyway.......
I had to take my 6year old granddaughter from severn road school in cardiff and move her up the road because the teachers were telling the white kids to draw pictures while they taught the majority of kids basic english, because when they go home they speak their native tongues. Most of them i'd say are muslims or their parents are just lazy bastards who can't be bothered changing from their pyjamas before they take their kids to school.

I have also learned that their is a bullying policy against white kids in that school so now she has been going karate for the last year.

My family were immigrants but adapted in most aspects and I do feel their is a responsibility of immigrants to tow the line somewhat but it is the schools and government that should be the target in any demonstrations and not the muslims themselves.

I haven't a clue what the future holds but i'll take it all in my stride and wont be abusing anyone over their beliefs or culture or creed..................................except the english (worse shower of bastards ever to walk this planet)

A question does need to be asked of Muslim Society though. these Muslim councils need to
be asked, and answers obtained as to why hundreds and hundreds of Muslim youths flock
to the streets at the first sign of anything that could be remotely percieved as anti-muslim....

Yet I've never seen one muslim/black (or student )protest against the hatemongers who
preach against democracy freedom and the British ways of life and laws they all CHOOSE to live by.

It is a huge problem.

Not one of the Gary-do-gooders can come on here and explain why Muslim Society basically shake
their heads and sigh when the Choudary people hit the streets.... yet are out in force and ready
to fight at the first sign of Nick Griffin (for instance) who is a million miles away from being as
radical as the bearded loons

That documetary was total shite. The underover reporter could only get two jack numptees to talk to him, the rest fucked him off!


Anyway.......
I had to take my 6year old granddaughter from severn road school in cardiff and move her up the road because the teachers were telling the white kids to draw pictures while they taught the majority of kids basic english, because when they go home they speak their native tongues. Most of them i'd say are muslims or their parents are just lazy bastards who can't be bothered changing from their pyjamas before they take their kids to school.

I have also learned that their is a bullying policy against white kids in that school so now she has been going karate for the last year.

My family were immigrants but adapted in most aspects and I do feel their is a responsibility of immigrants to tow the line somewhat but it is the schools and government that should be the target in any demonstrations and not the muslims themselves.

I haven't a clue what the future holds but i'll take it all in my stride and wont be abusing anyone over their beliefs or culture or creed..................................except the english (worse shower of bastards ever to walk this planet)

A question does need to be asked of Muslim Society though. these Muslim councils need to
be asked, and answers obtained as to why hundreds and hundreds of Muslim youths flock
to the streets at the first sign of anything that could be remotely percieved as anti-muslim....

Yet I've never seen one muslim/black (or student )protest against the hatemongers who
preach against democracy freedom and the British ways of life and laws they all CHOOSE to live by.

It is a huge problem.

Not one of the Gary-do-gooders can come on here and explain why Muslim Society basically shake
their heads and sigh when the Choudary people hit the streets.... yet are out in force and ready
to fight at the first sign of Nick Griffin (for instance) who is a million miles away from being as
radical as the bearded loons

yeah he needs a good f*cking shoeing allright but i wouldn't go out of my way to do him but would let him have it if he came anywhere near me.

I know loads of people who are too afraid to do anything because the laws against racism carry severe punishments and social shame.

The muslims didnt bring in this law the british government did


why? ..........