OT: Henry Nowak handcuffing?

Sludge has nailed it perfectly.
No amount of counter arguing is going to succeed in this matter. The far right always hijack tragic situations like this and use it for their own filthy agendas.

So was the killing of violent, misogynist, drug addict George Floyd , hijacked by the far left?

Incredible that it's legal for this religion to carry 8 inch knives around

Sludge has nailed it perfectly.
No amount of counter arguing is going to succeed in this matter. The far right always hijack tragic situations like this and use it for their own filthy agendas.

So was the killing of violent, misogynist, drug addict George Floyd , hijacked by the far left?

George Floyd reaction in the UK was a bit OTT if looked at solely as a reaction to that case and not a reaction to the wider Western world discussion of the police and their general attitude towards black people. Systemically as has been pointed out with the stop and search numbers above black people are treated with more suspicion and then more often dealt with heavy handedly.

Nowak killing was a monumental failing by the officers on duty, though possibly mitigated by findings in the aftermath regarding how difficult the stab wounds were to identify, but hardly indicative of a systemic failure or “two-tier” policing.

Incredible that it's legal for this religion to carry 8 inch knives around

Agree

Sludge has nailed it perfectly.
No amount of counter arguing is going to succeed in this matter. The far right always hijack tragic situations like this and use it for their own filthy agendas.

So was the killing of violent, misogynist, drug addict George Floyd , hijacked by the far left?

Same old Jock, when it's from the left it's "mostly peaceful protests" when it's from the right it divisive

Cup of cold sick Sludge.

Your worthless witterings are invariably so pathetic as not to even warrant thinking about a response. However, on this occasion as you’ve diminished the terrible death of a young man which, in itself, let alone the circumstances and deeper background should deeply concern us all I will venture some comments.

If you had given this matter some though you might have acknowledged that Henry Nowak was just the latest in a line of Britons murdered under similar circumstances with no justification whatsoever. Observable, provable fact. Pure coincidence?

No connections with drugs, turf wars, gangs, inter-ethnic politics or any of those things. Just being there.

It is also a fact that Hampshire Police through two of their women high-ups recently instituted anti-Racist programmes throughout the Force which it is difficult to believe did not impact upon the disgraceful behaviour of the police at the scene.

Police are allegedly required to ‘believe’ any accusation of ‘racism’ with no evidence whatsoever. If true is that reasonable?

In this case they had been told in the 999 call that someone had been stabbed and at the scene, Henry was bleeding from several wounds.

I believe it is also a reported fact that the Police confiscated the phones of Henry and his father to search for ‘racist’ comments.

Strangely, Mr Novak was not it appears, notified of Henrys’ death until 24 hrs after the event. Strange that. Wonder why?

There are incredible double standards in force as the State and its lackeys throughout politics, the media and of course the Police double, down on the imposition and enforcement of policies which we are not allowed to criticise.

And of course, there are the useful idiots who go along with it all. Perhaps because they want to feel good and are can’t think outside the approved herd mentality. the younger ones have a sort of excuse in that they've been conditioned in school and through media. People like you, not so much. No excuse at all.

None are so blind that will not see.

Two-tier Kier and the two-tier justice system is a description that is denied but thoughtful observers can work out for themselves whether this is a reality. Don’t forget, in ‘1984’ Orwell wrote of the State’s first and most important command, which was ‘to ignore the evidence of your own eyes.’

Are we simply to accept this state of affairs continuing and inevitably worsening?

From elsewhere:

‘Henry Nowak’s murder, the complicity of the murderer’s family and the refusal of police officers was political. Without the anti-white double standards that govern our current moral order, Henry would still be alive. But as ever, the problem is neither thy problem itself nor those importing the problem The problem is that too many of us are now noticing and trying to address the problem. We refuse any longer to tolerate a situation in which savage attacks on whites are at best a ‘tragedy’ while the merest discomfort -let alone the murder of (one of) any other group is treated as a moral emergency.’

Not talking about this problem doesn't make it go away. It simply defers the time of reckoning which must come.

To end, I’ll bet neither Henry’s mother or father are given a seat in the House of Lords.

Excellent post
Hampshire police guidance is all about tackling imaginary racism and prioritising anyone who’s not white. You’d have thought the exposure of industrial scale rape of British children, by predominantly Pakistani men, which was ignored,for the sake of social cohesion, would have ended this. Sadly not, the long march through the institutions is almost complete and all our public bodies are riddled with the social cancer of DEI and equity.
It shows the scale of two tier policing in this country, when Lucy Connolly was jailed for a tweet. While a serving politician, who advocated cutting the throats of anyone with a different view, walked free.

Cup of cold sick Sludge.

Your worthless witterings are invariably so pathetic as not to even warrant thinking about a response. However, on this occasion as you’ve diminished the terrible death of a young man which, in itself, let alone the circumstances and deeper background should deeply concern us all I will venture some comments.

If you had given this matter some though you might have acknowledged that Henry Nowak was just the latest in a line of Britons murdered under similar circumstances with no justification whatsoever. Observable, provable fact. Pure coincidence?

No connections with drugs, turf wars, gangs, inter-ethnic politics or any of those things. Just being there.

It is also a fact that Hampshire Police through two of their women high-ups recently instituted anti-Racist programmes throughout the Force which it is difficult to believe did not impact upon the disgraceful behaviour of the police at the scene.

Police are allegedly required to ‘believe’ any accusation of ‘racism’ with no evidence whatsoever. If true is that reasonable?

In this case they had been told in the 999 call that someone had been stabbed and at the scene, Henry was bleeding from several wounds.

I believe it is also a reported fact that the Police confiscated the phones of Henry and his father to search for ‘racist’ comments.

Strangely, Mr Novak was not it appears, notified of Henrys’ death until 24 hrs after the event. Strange that. Wonder why?

There are incredible double standards in force as the State and its lackeys throughout politics, the media and of course the Police double, down on the imposition and enforcement of policies which we are not allowed to criticise.

And of course, there are the useful idiots who go along with it all. Perhaps because they want to feel good and are can’t think outside the approved herd mentality. the younger ones have a sort of excuse in that they've been conditioned in school and through media. People like you, not so much. No excuse at all.

None are so blind that will not see.

Two-tier Kier and the two-tier justice system is a description that is denied but thoughtful observers can work out for themselves whether this is a reality. Don’t forget, in ‘1984’ Orwell wrote of the State’s first and most important command, which was ‘to ignore the evidence of your own eyes.’

Are we simply to accept this state of affairs continuing and inevitably worsening?

From elsewhere:

‘Henry Nowak’s murder, the complicity of the murderer’s family and the refusal of police officers was political. Without the anti-white double standards that govern our current moral order, Henry would still be alive. But as ever, the problem is neither thy problem itself nor those importing the problem The problem is that too many of us are now noticing and trying to address the problem. We refuse any longer to tolerate a situation in which savage attacks on whites are at best a ‘tragedy’ while the merest discomfort -let alone the murder of (one of) any other group is treated as a moral emergency.’

Not talking about this problem doesn't make it go away. It simply defers the time of reckoning which must come.

To end, I’ll bet neither Henry’s mother or father are given a seat in the House of Lords.

This is an excellent, well written post.

Nonsense

The police were useless , they were clearly seen searching for stab wounds but couldnt find any ......not easy to see entry wounds but they should have found them

It was nothing to do with the poor guys race , it was crap , useless coppers

If there was some kind of cover up the police wouldnt have released the terrible video of the incident

If you have 100 coppers then if 10 of them are crap and useless this is going to happen

Black and Asian people are more likely to be arrested and charged with offences than us whiteys and are more likely to go to prison for similar offences and also get longer in prison

So yes ....there certainly is two tier policing and justice in this country .....and its not white people who are always on the wrong side of it

Absolute bollocks. People like you are the reason starmer and his minions have been able to run this country towards becoming an islamic state.

Incredible that it's legal for this religion to carry 8 inch knives around

Agree

Sludge has nailed it perfectly.
No amount of counter arguing is going to succeed in this matter. The far right always hijack tragic situations like this and use it for their own filthy agendas.

So was the killing of violent, misogynist, drug addict George Floyd , hijacked by the far left?

George Floyd reaction in the UK was a bit OTT if looked at solely as a reaction to that case and not a reaction to the wider Western world discussion of the police and their general attitude towards black people. Systemically as has been pointed out with the stop and search numbers above black people are treated with more suspicion and then more often dealt with heavy handedly.

Nowak killing was a monumental failing by the officers on duty, though possibly mitigated by findings in the aftermath regarding how difficult the stab wounds were to identify, but hardly indicative of a systemic failure or “two-tier” policing.

Black people are not treated worse than white people by the police, this is not the 1970s.

His father has said "We do not want his death to be used to create further division, hatred or tension" so I'm going to follow those wishes.

Aint that the truth

Feck off Farage

What's it got to do with farage?
If people still can't see the two tier policing in this country then they really are blind.

Dont be silly

Farage has jumped in this morning suggesting exactly that

Despite being asked not to

This is a case of crap policing

It's standard two-tier policing, which is terrible, but that's how it works.

Cup of cold sick Sludge.

Your worthless witterings are invariably so pathetic as not to even warrant thinking about a response. However, on this occasion as you’ve diminished the terrible death of a young man which, in itself, let alone the circumstances and deeper background should deeply concern us all I will venture some comments.

If you had given this matter some though you might have acknowledged that Henry Nowak was just the latest in a line of Britons murdered under similar circumstances with no justification whatsoever. Observable, provable fact. Pure coincidence?

No connections with drugs, turf wars, gangs, inter-ethnic politics or any of those things. Just being there.

It is also a fact that Hampshire Police through two of their women high-ups recently instituted anti-Racist programmes throughout the Force which it is difficult to believe did not impact upon the disgraceful behaviour of the police at the scene.

Police are allegedly required to ‘believe’ any accusation of ‘racism’ with no evidence whatsoever. If true is that reasonable?

In this case they had been told in the 999 call that someone had been stabbed and at the scene, Henry was bleeding from several wounds.

I believe it is also a reported fact that the Police confiscated the phones of Henry and his father to search for ‘racist’ comments.

Strangely, Mr Novak was not it appears, notified of Henrys’ death until 24 hrs after the event. Strange that. Wonder why?

There are incredible double standards in force as the State and its lackeys throughout politics, the media and of course the Police double, down on the imposition and enforcement of policies which we are not allowed to criticise.

And of course, there are the useful idiots who go along with it all. Perhaps because they want to feel good and are can’t think outside the approved herd mentality. the younger ones have a sort of excuse in that they've been conditioned in school and through media. People like you, not so much. No excuse at all.

None are so blind that will not see.

Two-tier Kier and the two-tier justice system is a description that is denied but thoughtful observers can work out for themselves whether this is a reality. Don’t forget, in ‘1984’ Orwell wrote of the State’s first and most important command, which was ‘to ignore the evidence of your own eyes.’

Are we simply to accept this state of affairs continuing and inevitably worsening?

From elsewhere:

‘Henry Nowak’s murder, the complicity of the murderer’s family and the refusal of police officers was political. Without the anti-white double standards that govern our current moral order, Henry would still be alive. But as ever, the problem is neither thy problem itself nor those importing the problem The problem is that too many of us are now noticing and trying to address the problem. We refuse any longer to tolerate a situation in which savage attacks on whites are at best a ‘tragedy’ while the merest discomfort -let alone the murder of (one of) any other group is treated as a moral emergency.’

Not talking about this problem doesn't make it go away. It simply defers the time of reckoning which must come.

To end, I’ll bet neither Henry’s mother or father are given a seat in the House of Lords.

This is an excellent, well written post.

Its completely false

https://x.com/SkyNews/status/2061894235603820615

Sky are as far left as the BBC, they will find and publish any bullshit to please the establishment.

Cup of cold sick Sludge.

Your worthless witterings are invariably so pathetic as not to even warrant thinking about a response. However, on this occasion as you’ve diminished the terrible death of a young man which, in itself, let alone the circumstances and deeper background should deeply concern us all I will venture some comments.

If you had given this matter some though you might have acknowledged that Henry Nowak was just the latest in a line of Britons murdered under similar circumstances with no justification whatsoever. Observable, provable fact. Pure coincidence?

No connections with drugs, turf wars, gangs, inter-ethnic politics or any of those things. Just being there.

It is also a fact that Hampshire Police through two of their women high-ups recently instituted anti-Racist programmes throughout the Force which it is difficult to believe did not impact upon the disgraceful behaviour of the police at the scene.

Police are allegedly required to ‘believe’ any accusation of ‘racism’ with no evidence whatsoever. If true is that reasonable?

In this case they had been told in the 999 call that someone had been stabbed and at the scene, Henry was bleeding from several wounds.

I believe it is also a reported fact that the Police confiscated the phones of Henry and his father to search for ‘racist’ comments.

Strangely, Mr Novak was not it appears, notified of Henrys’ death until 24 hrs after the event. Strange that. Wonder why?

There are incredible double standards in force as the State and its lackeys throughout politics, the media and of course the Police double, down on the imposition and enforcement of policies which we are not allowed to criticise.

And of course, there are the useful idiots who go along with it all. Perhaps because they want to feel good and are can’t think outside the approved herd mentality. the younger ones have a sort of excuse in that they've been conditioned in school and through media. People like you, not so much. No excuse at all.

None are so blind that will not see.

Two-tier Kier and the two-tier justice system is a description that is denied but thoughtful observers can work out for themselves whether this is a reality. Don’t forget, in ‘1984’ Orwell wrote of the State’s first and most important command, which was ‘to ignore the evidence of your own eyes.’

Are we simply to accept this state of affairs continuing and inevitably worsening?

From elsewhere:

‘Henry Nowak’s murder, the complicity of the murderer’s family and the refusal of police officers was political. Without the anti-white double standards that govern our current moral order, Henry would still be alive. But as ever, the problem is neither thy problem itself nor those importing the problem The problem is that too many of us are now noticing and trying to address the problem. We refuse any longer to tolerate a situation in which savage attacks on whites are at best a ‘tragedy’ while the merest discomfort -let alone the murder of (one of) any other group is treated as a moral emergency.’

Not talking about this problem doesn't make it go away. It simply defers the time of reckoning which must come.

To end, I’ll bet neither Henry’s mother or father are given a seat in the House of Lords.

Well I think we have an example here of someone spending way too much time " researching " stuff on the internet

Its a load of guff

There is no history of sikh men going round stabbing white boys

This was a shameful crime carried out by a scumball , its not a pattern

He has been sent down for 20 years and hopefully with the additional charges hes now facing he will get a lot more

The police screwed up because thats what happens sometimes

There absolutely should be a public enquiry where the facts can be heard rather than farage , tommy robinson and mob rule

There is no history of Sikh men stabbing white boys. Who said there was? Another straw man argument, apart from babbling like a retarded chimp, it’s all you have.

Sludge has nailed it perfectly.
No amount of counter arguing is going to succeed in this matter. The far right always hijack tragic situations like this and use it for their own filthy agendas.

It is indeed a complete waste of time with a few on here and society in general

Cup of cold sick Sludge.

Your worthless witterings are invariably so pathetic as not to even warrant thinking about a response. However, on this occasion as you’ve diminished the terrible death of a young man which, in itself, let alone the circumstances and deeper background should deeply concern us all I will venture some comments.

If you had given this matter some though you might have acknowledged that Henry Nowak was just the latest in a line of Britons murdered under similar circumstances with no justification whatsoever. Observable, provable fact. Pure coincidence?

No connections with drugs, turf wars, gangs, inter-ethnic politics or any of those things. Just being there.

It is also a fact that Hampshire Police through two of their women high-ups recently instituted anti-Racist programmes throughout the Force which it is difficult to believe did not impact upon the disgraceful behaviour of the police at the scene.

Police are allegedly required to ‘believe’ any accusation of ‘racism’ with no evidence whatsoever. If true is that reasonable?

In this case they had been told in the 999 call that someone had been stabbed and at the scene, Henry was bleeding from several wounds.

I believe it is also a reported fact that the Police confiscated the phones of Henry and his father to search for ‘racist’ comments.

Strangely, Mr Novak was not it appears, notified of Henrys’ death until 24 hrs after the event. Strange that. Wonder why?

There are incredible double standards in force as the State and its lackeys throughout politics, the media and of course the Police double, down on the imposition and enforcement of policies which we are not allowed to criticise.

And of course, there are the useful idiots who go along with it all. Perhaps because they want to feel good and are can’t think outside the approved herd mentality. the younger ones have a sort of excuse in that they've been conditioned in school and through media. People like you, not so much. No excuse at all.

None are so blind that will not see.

Two-tier Kier and the two-tier justice system is a description that is denied but thoughtful observers can work out for themselves whether this is a reality. Don’t forget, in ‘1984’ Orwell wrote of the State’s first and most important command, which was ‘to ignore the evidence of your own eyes.’

Are we simply to accept this state of affairs continuing and inevitably worsening?

From elsewhere:

‘Henry Nowak’s murder, the complicity of the murderer’s family and the refusal of police officers was political. Without the anti-white double standards that govern our current moral order, Henry would still be alive. But as ever, the problem is neither thy problem itself nor those importing the problem The problem is that too many of us are now noticing and trying to address the problem. We refuse any longer to tolerate a situation in which savage attacks on whites are at best a ‘tragedy’ while the merest discomfort -let alone the murder of (one of) any other group is treated as a moral emergency.’

Not talking about this problem doesn't make it go away. It simply defers the time of reckoning which must come.

To end, I’ll bet neither Henry’s mother or father are given a seat in the House of Lords.

Excellent post
Hampshire police guidance is all about tackling imaginary racism and prioritising anyone who’s not white. You’d have thought the exposure of industrial scale rape of British children, by predominantly Pakistani men, which was ignored,for the sake of social cohesion, would have ended this. Sadly not, the long march through the institutions is almost complete and all our public bodies are riddled with the social cancer of DEI and equity.
It shows the scale of two tier policing in this country, when Lucy Connolly was jailed for a tweet. While a serving politician, who advocated cutting the throats of anyone with a different view, walked free.

Thats more nonsense

Lucy Connolly admitted her guilt

The councillor in london pleaded not guilty , went to trial and was found not guilty

Thats the court process we have and was the decision of the jury , it wasnt two tier policing , absolute rubbish

Sludge, I do not like for Annis to lose any board members, but really, why dont you join a political forum, instead of a football one, but i guess you have already done that, Then there is always Mikes message board , or is that not possible? has he banned you.?
This is a football forum, and political stuff does come up quite a lot, but lets be honest, you politicalise everythying. When I was on Mikes board you were exactly the same. Have they had enough of you over there ?

Sludge has nailed it perfectly.
No amount of counter arguing is going to succeed in this matter. The far right always hijack tragic situations like this and use it for their own filthy agendas.

So was the killing of violent, misogynist, drug addict George Floyd , hijacked by the far left?

George Floyd reaction in the UK was a bit OTT if looked at solely as a reaction to that case and not a reaction to the wider Western world discussion of the police and their general attitude towards black people. Systemically as has been pointed out with the stop and search numbers above black people are treated with more suspicion and then more often dealt with heavy handedly.

Nowak killing was a monumental failing by the officers on duty, though possibly mitigated by findings in the aftermath regarding how difficult the stab wounds were to identify, but hardly indicative of a systemic failure or “two-tier” policing.

Black people are not treated worse than white people by the police, this is not the 1970s.

Yes they are you dopey sod

I have posted the link from sky to a criminologist above , with the facts

If you want to deny that then it is you who are living in the past

Cup of cold sick Sludge.

Your worthless witterings are invariably so pathetic as not to even warrant thinking about a response. However, on this occasion as you’ve diminished the terrible death of a young man which, in itself, let alone the circumstances and deeper background should deeply concern us all I will venture some comments.

If you had given this matter some though you might have acknowledged that Henry Nowak was just the latest in a line of Britons murdered under similar circumstances with no justification whatsoever. Observable, provable fact. Pure coincidence?

No connections with drugs, turf wars, gangs, inter-ethnic politics or any of those things. Just being there.

It is also a fact that Hampshire Police through two of their women high-ups recently instituted anti-Racist programmes throughout the Force which it is difficult to believe did not impact upon the disgraceful behaviour of the police at the scene.

Police are allegedly required to ‘believe’ any accusation of ‘racism’ with no evidence whatsoever. If true is that reasonable?

In this case they had been told in the 999 call that someone had been stabbed and at the scene, Henry was bleeding from several wounds.

I believe it is also a reported fact that the Police confiscated the phones of Henry and his father to search for ‘racist’ comments.

Strangely, Mr Novak was not it appears, notified of Henrys’ death until 24 hrs after the event. Strange that. Wonder why?

There are incredible double standards in force as the State and its lackeys throughout politics, the media and of course the Police double, down on the imposition and enforcement of policies which we are not allowed to criticise.

And of course, there are the useful idiots who go along with it all. Perhaps because they want to feel good and are can’t think outside the approved herd mentality. the younger ones have a sort of excuse in that they've been conditioned in school and through media. People like you, not so much. No excuse at all.

None are so blind that will not see.

Two-tier Kier and the two-tier justice system is a description that is denied but thoughtful observers can work out for themselves whether this is a reality. Don’t forget, in ‘1984’ Orwell wrote of the State’s first and most important command, which was ‘to ignore the evidence of your own eyes.’

Are we simply to accept this state of affairs continuing and inevitably worsening?

From elsewhere:

‘Henry Nowak’s murder, the complicity of the murderer’s family and the refusal of police officers was political. Without the anti-white double standards that govern our current moral order, Henry would still be alive. But as ever, the problem is neither thy problem itself nor those importing the problem The problem is that too many of us are now noticing and trying to address the problem. We refuse any longer to tolerate a situation in which savage attacks on whites are at best a ‘tragedy’ while the merest discomfort -let alone the murder of (one of) any other group is treated as a moral emergency.’

Not talking about this problem doesn't make it go away. It simply defers the time of reckoning which must come.

To end, I’ll bet neither Henry’s mother or father are given a seat in the House of Lords.

This is an excellent, well written post.

Its completely false

https://x.com/SkyNews/status/2061894235603820615

Sky are as far left as the BBC, they will find and publish any bullshit to please the establishment.

The comments and FACTS , widely available , not just from SKY are from a respected criminologist

If you think these home office facts are bullshit , you need to give up to be honest as you are out of your depth

Sludge has nailed it perfectly.
No amount of counter arguing is going to succeed in this matter. The far right always hijack tragic situations like this and use it for their own filthy agendas.

Is that what you call nailing something perfectly?
You have two people at the crime scene one lying on the floor with an obvious stab wound to his face and three other wounds not so obvious but the person on the floor is saying he's been stabbed four times, he's also claiming he can't breathe. Then you have the other person appearing unharmed with no obvious injuries standing over the prone person claiming that his turban was knocked off his head and he'd been racially verbally abused by the prone person on the floor.
My first thoughts would be that obviously the person on the floor had been assaulted using a bladed article (face injury) and almost certainly the person standing above him was the one who had committed the attack.
Any normal person would come to that conclusion as in say if it was a drink related altercation, people would almost certainly come to the conclusion that they had a disagreement and one man had used a bladed article (which we all know is a serious offence) and the other was a victim of that attack.. pretty obvious isn't it?
So why would the police disbelieve the man on the floor? What would make them disbelieve something so obvious?
My take on it is that the police have been trained to put racial accusations as more important than anything else..maybe worth a read of their policy on policing so called racial accusations. This govt is pushing the narrative and the upper echelons of the police (amongst many other organisations) are involved in this woke nonsense.. mostly Fabian based.
The man was dying as it was then the police probably accelerated that outcome by handcuffing him and dragging his dying body across the gravel.
Surely you I and any sane person would refrain from handcuffing someone whose obviously in serious difficulties with very bad injuries and is incapable of being a problem or nuisance to them and maybe handcuffing the person standing over the prone person would be more appropriate.
Big call out to Sludge for his enlightening contributions to this debate.

Sludge, I do not like for Annis to lose any board members, but really, why dont you join a political forum, instead of a football one, but i guess you have already done that, Then there is always Mikes message board , or is that not possible? has he banned you.?
This is a football forum, and political stuff does come up quite a lot, but lets be honest, you politicalise everythying. When I was on Mikes board you were exactly the same. Have they had enough of you over there ?

I cant remember you on mikes board

Cup of cold sick Sludge.

Your worthless witterings are invariably so pathetic as not to even warrant thinking about a response. However, on this occasion as you’ve diminished the terrible death of a young man which, in itself, let alone the circumstances and deeper background should deeply concern us all I will venture some comments.

If you had given this matter some though you might have acknowledged that Henry Nowak was just the latest in a line of Britons murdered under similar circumstances with no justification whatsoever. Observable, provable fact. Pure coincidence?

No connections with drugs, turf wars, gangs, inter-ethnic politics or any of those things. Just being there.

It is also a fact that Hampshire Police through two of their women high-ups recently instituted anti-Racist programmes throughout the Force which it is difficult to believe did not impact upon the disgraceful behaviour of the police at the scene.

Police are allegedly required to ‘believe’ any accusation of ‘racism’ with no evidence whatsoever. If true is that reasonable?

In this case they had been told in the 999 call that someone had been stabbed and at the scene, Henry was bleeding from several wounds.

I believe it is also a reported fact that the Police confiscated the phones of Henry and his father to search for ‘racist’ comments.

Strangely, Mr Novak was not it appears, notified of Henrys’ death until 24 hrs after the event. Strange that. Wonder why?

There are incredible double standards in force as the State and its lackeys throughout politics, the media and of course the Police double, down on the imposition and enforcement of policies which we are not allowed to criticise.

And of course, there are the useful idiots who go along with it all. Perhaps because they want to feel good and are can’t think outside the approved herd mentality. the younger ones have a sort of excuse in that they've been conditioned in school and through media. People like you, not so much. No excuse at all.

None are so blind that will not see.

Two-tier Kier and the two-tier justice system is a description that is denied but thoughtful observers can work out for themselves whether this is a reality. Don’t forget, in ‘1984’ Orwell wrote of the State’s first and most important command, which was ‘to ignore the evidence of your own eyes.’

Are we simply to accept this state of affairs continuing and inevitably worsening?

From elsewhere:

‘Henry Nowak’s murder, the complicity of the murderer’s family and the refusal of police officers was political. Without the anti-white double standards that govern our current moral order, Henry would still be alive. But as ever, the problem is neither thy problem itself nor those importing the problem The problem is that too many of us are now noticing and trying to address the problem. We refuse any longer to tolerate a situation in which savage attacks on whites are at best a ‘tragedy’ while the merest discomfort -let alone the murder of (one of) any other group is treated as a moral emergency.’

Not talking about this problem doesn't make it go away. It simply defers the time of reckoning which must come.

To end, I’ll bet neither Henry’s mother or father are given a seat in the House of Lords.

This is an excellent, well written post.

Nonsense

The police were useless , they were clearly seen searching for stab wounds but couldnt find any ......not easy to see entry wounds but they should have found them

It was nothing to do with the poor guys race , it was crap , useless coppers

If there was some kind of cover up the police wouldnt have released the terrible video of the incident

If you have 100 coppers then if 10 of them are crap and useless this is going to happen

Black and Asian people are more likely to be arrested and charged with offences than us whiteys and are more likely to go to prison for similar offences and also get longer in prison

So yes ....there certainly is two tier policing and justice in this country .....and its not white people who are always on the wrong side of it

Absolute bollocks. People like you are the reason starmer and his minions have been able to run this country towards becoming an islamic state.

You are presented with the facts about arrests , tasering and prison sentences regarding white and black population

It shows that black population are treated with more direct discrimination than whites

Your answer ......the facts are bullshit and its lefty people causing all this

Absolutely off the radar you are

Sludge has nailed it perfectly.
No amount of counter arguing is going to succeed in this matter. The far right always hijack tragic situations like this and use it for their own filthy agendas.

Is that what you call nailing something perfectly?
You have two people at the crime scene one lying on the floor with an obvious stab wound to his face and three other wounds not so obvious but the person on the floor is saying he's been stabbed four times, he's also claiming he can't breathe. Then you have the other person appearing unharmed with no obvious injuries standing over the prone person claiming that his turban was knocked off his head and he'd been racially verbally abused by the prone person on the floor.
My first thoughts would be that obviously the person on the floor had been assaulted using a bladed article (face injury) and almost certainly the person standing above him was the one who had committed the attack.
Any normal person would come to that conclusion as in say if it was a drink related altercation, people would almost certainly come to the conclusion that they had a disagreement and one man had used a bladed article (which we all know is a serious offence) and the other was a victim of that attack.. pretty obvious isn't it?
So why would the police disbelieve the man on the floor? What would make them disbelieve something so obvious?
My take on it is that the police have been trained to put racial accusations as more important than anything else..maybe worth a read of their policy on policing so called racial accusations. This govt is pushing the narrative and the upper echelons of the police (amongst many other organisations) are involved in this woke nonsense.. mostly Fabian based.
The man was dying as it was then the police probably accelerated that outcome by handcuffing him and dragging his dying body across the gravel.
Surely you I and any sane person would refrain from handcuffing someone whose obviously in serious difficulties with very bad injuries and is incapable of being a problem or nuisance to them and maybe handcuffing the person standing over the prone person would be more appropriate.
Big call out to Sludge for his enlightening contributions to this debate.

The coppers were utter gash but I disagree , from what we know , that racial training caused them to behave so badly

This poor kid lost his life because the coppers were possibly criminally negligent

I hope they get done

Cup of cold sick Sludge.

Your worthless witterings are invariably so pathetic as not to even warrant thinking about a response. However, on this occasion as you’ve diminished the terrible death of a young man which, in itself, let alone the circumstances and deeper background should deeply concern us all I will venture some comments.

If you had given this matter some though you might have acknowledged that Henry Nowak was just the latest in a line of Britons murdered under similar circumstances with no justification whatsoever. Observable, provable fact. Pure coincidence?

No connections with drugs, turf wars, gangs, inter-ethnic politics or any of those things. Just being there.

It is also a fact that Hampshire Police through two of their women high-ups recently instituted anti-Racist programmes throughout the Force which it is difficult to believe did not impact upon the disgraceful behaviour of the police at the scene.

Police are allegedly required to ‘believe’ any accusation of ‘racism’ with no evidence whatsoever. If true is that reasonable?

In this case they had been told in the 999 call that someone had been stabbed and at the scene, Henry was bleeding from several wounds.

I believe it is also a reported fact that the Police confiscated the phones of Henry and his father to search for ‘racist’ comments.

Strangely, Mr Novak was not it appears, notified of Henrys’ death until 24 hrs after the event. Strange that. Wonder why?

There are incredible double standards in force as the State and its lackeys throughout politics, the media and of course the Police double, down on the imposition and enforcement of policies which we are not allowed to criticise.

And of course, there are the useful idiots who go along with it all. Perhaps because they want to feel good and are can’t think outside the approved herd mentality. the younger ones have a sort of excuse in that they've been conditioned in school and through media. People like you, not so much. No excuse at all.

None are so blind that will not see.

Two-tier Kier and the two-tier justice system is a description that is denied but thoughtful observers can work out for themselves whether this is a reality. Don’t forget, in ‘1984’ Orwell wrote of the State’s first and most important command, which was ‘to ignore the evidence of your own eyes.’

Are we simply to accept this state of affairs continuing and inevitably worsening?

From elsewhere:

‘Henry Nowak’s murder, the complicity of the murderer’s family and the refusal of police officers was political. Without the anti-white double standards that govern our current moral order, Henry would still be alive. But as ever, the problem is neither thy problem itself nor those importing the problem The problem is that too many of us are now noticing and trying to address the problem. We refuse any longer to tolerate a situation in which savage attacks on whites are at best a ‘tragedy’ while the merest discomfort -let alone the murder of (one of) any other group is treated as a moral emergency.’

Not talking about this problem doesn't make it go away. It simply defers the time of reckoning which must come.

To end, I’ll bet neither Henry’s mother or father are given a seat in the House of Lords.

Excellent post
Hampshire police guidance is all about tackling imaginary racism and prioritising anyone who’s not white. You’d have thought the exposure of industrial scale rape of British children, by predominantly Pakistani men, which was ignored,for the sake of social cohesion, would have ended this. Sadly not, the long march through the institutions is almost complete and all our public bodies are riddled with the social cancer of DEI and equity.
It shows the scale of two tier policing in this country, when Lucy Connolly was jailed for a tweet. While a serving politician, who advocated cutting the throats of anyone with a different view, walked free.

Thats more nonsense

Lucy Connolly admitted her guilt

The councillor in london pleaded not guilty , went to trial and was found not guilty

Thats the court process we have and was the decision of the jury , it wasnt two tier policing , absolute rubbish

The vile low IQ councillor, was recorded saying “cut their throats” accompanied by a throat cutting gesture.
Just like the Manchester Airport attackers, we all watched on TV battering a copper , got off with it.

Cup of cold sick Sludge.

Your worthless witterings are invariably so pathetic as not to even warrant thinking about a response. However, on this occasion as you’ve diminished the terrible death of a young man which, in itself, let alone the circumstances and deeper background should deeply concern us all I will venture some comments.

If you had given this matter some though you might have acknowledged that Henry Nowak was just the latest in a line of Britons murdered under similar circumstances with no justification whatsoever. Observable, provable fact. Pure coincidence?

No connections with drugs, turf wars, gangs, inter-ethnic politics or any of those things. Just being there.

It is also a fact that Hampshire Police through two of their women high-ups recently instituted anti-Racist programmes throughout the Force which it is difficult to believe did not impact upon the disgraceful behaviour of the police at the scene.

Police are allegedly required to ‘believe’ any accusation of ‘racism’ with no evidence whatsoever. If true is that reasonable?

In this case they had been told in the 999 call that someone had been stabbed and at the scene, Henry was bleeding from several wounds.

I believe it is also a reported fact that the Police confiscated the phones of Henry and his father to search for ‘racist’ comments.

Strangely, Mr Novak was not it appears, notified of Henrys’ death until 24 hrs after the event. Strange that. Wonder why?

There are incredible double standards in force as the State and its lackeys throughout politics, the media and of course the Police double, down on the imposition and enforcement of policies which we are not allowed to criticise.

And of course, there are the useful idiots who go along with it all. Perhaps because they want to feel good and are can’t think outside the approved herd mentality. the younger ones have a sort of excuse in that they've been conditioned in school and through media. People like you, not so much. No excuse at all.

None are so blind that will not see.

Two-tier Kier and the two-tier justice system is a description that is denied but thoughtful observers can work out for themselves whether this is a reality. Don’t forget, in ‘1984’ Orwell wrote of the State’s first and most important command, which was ‘to ignore the evidence of your own eyes.’

Are we simply to accept this state of affairs continuing and inevitably worsening?

From elsewhere:

‘Henry Nowak’s murder, the complicity of the murderer’s family and the refusal of police officers was political. Without the anti-white double standards that govern our current moral order, Henry would still be alive. But as ever, the problem is neither thy problem itself nor those importing the problem The problem is that too many of us are now noticing and trying to address the problem. We refuse any longer to tolerate a situation in which savage attacks on whites are at best a ‘tragedy’ while the merest discomfort -let alone the murder of (one of) any other group is treated as a moral emergency.’

Not talking about this problem doesn't make it go away. It simply defers the time of reckoning which must come.

To end, I’ll bet neither Henry’s mother or father are given a seat in the House of Lords.

This is an excellent, well written post.

Nonsense

The police were useless , they were clearly seen searching for stab wounds but couldnt find any ......not easy to see entry wounds but they should have found them

It was nothing to do with the poor guys race , it was crap , useless coppers

If there was some kind of cover up the police wouldnt have released the terrible video of the incident

If you have 100 coppers then if 10 of them are crap and useless this is going to happen

Black and Asian people are more likely to be arrested and charged with offences than us whiteys and are more likely to go to prison for similar offences and also get longer in prison

So yes ....there certainly is two tier policing and justice in this country .....and its not white people who are always on the wrong side of it

Absolute bollocks. People like you are the reason starmer and his minions have been able to run this country towards becoming an islamic state.

You are presented with the facts about arrests , tasering and prison sentences regarding white and black population

It shows that black population are treated with more direct discrimination than whites

Your answer ......the facts are bullshit and its lefty people causing all this

Absolutely off the radar you are

Black people commit a disproportionately higher level of crime. For these statistics to stand scrutiny it shouldn’t be based on the number of black people in the UK but rather as a percentage of black offenders.

Cup of cold sick Sludge.

Your worthless witterings are invariably so pathetic as not to even warrant thinking about a response. However, on this occasion as you’ve diminished the terrible death of a young man which, in itself, let alone the circumstances and deeper background should deeply concern us all I will venture some comments.

If you had given this matter some though you might have acknowledged that Henry Nowak was just the latest in a line of Britons murdered under similar circumstances with no justification whatsoever. Observable, provable fact. Pure coincidence?

No connections with drugs, turf wars, gangs, inter-ethnic politics or any of those things. Just being there.

It is also a fact that Hampshire Police through two of their women high-ups recently instituted anti-Racist programmes throughout the Force which it is difficult to believe did not impact upon the disgraceful behaviour of the police at the scene.

Police are allegedly required to ‘believe’ any accusation of ‘racism’ with no evidence whatsoever. If true is that reasonable?

In this case they had been told in the 999 call that someone had been stabbed and at the scene, Henry was bleeding from several wounds.

I believe it is also a reported fact that the Police confiscated the phones of Henry and his father to search for ‘racist’ comments.

Strangely, Mr Novak was not it appears, notified of Henrys’ death until 24 hrs after the event. Strange that. Wonder why?

There are incredible double standards in force as the State and its lackeys throughout politics, the media and of course the Police double, down on the imposition and enforcement of policies which we are not allowed to criticise.

And of course, there are the useful idiots who go along with it all. Perhaps because they want to feel good and are can’t think outside the approved herd mentality. the younger ones have a sort of excuse in that they've been conditioned in school and through media. People like you, not so much. No excuse at all.

None are so blind that will not see.

Two-tier Kier and the two-tier justice system is a description that is denied but thoughtful observers can work out for themselves whether this is a reality. Don’t forget, in ‘1984’ Orwell wrote of the State’s first and most important command, which was ‘to ignore the evidence of your own eyes.’

Are we simply to accept this state of affairs continuing and inevitably worsening?

From elsewhere:

‘Henry Nowak’s murder, the complicity of the murderer’s family and the refusal of police officers was political. Without the anti-white double standards that govern our current moral order, Henry would still be alive. But as ever, the problem is neither thy problem itself nor those importing the problem The problem is that too many of us are now noticing and trying to address the problem. We refuse any longer to tolerate a situation in which savage attacks on whites are at best a ‘tragedy’ while the merest discomfort -let alone the murder of (one of) any other group is treated as a moral emergency.’

Not talking about this problem doesn't make it go away. It simply defers the time of reckoning which must come.

To end, I’ll bet neither Henry’s mother or father are given a seat in the House of Lords.

Excellent post
Hampshire police guidance is all about tackling imaginary racism and prioritising anyone who’s not white. You’d have thought the exposure of industrial scale rape of British children, by predominantly Pakistani men, which was ignored,for the sake of social cohesion, would have ended this. Sadly not, the long march through the institutions is almost complete and all our public bodies are riddled with the social cancer of DEI and equity.
It shows the scale of two tier policing in this country, when Lucy Connolly was jailed for a tweet. While a serving politician, who advocated cutting the throats of anyone with a different view, walked free.

Thats more nonsense

Lucy Connolly admitted her guilt

The councillor in london pleaded not guilty , went to trial and was found not guilty

Thats the court process we have and was the decision of the jury , it wasnt two tier policing , absolute rubbish

The vile low IQ councillor, was recorded saying “cut their throats” accompanied by a throat cutting gesture.
Just like the Manchester Airport attackers, we all watched on TV battering a copper , got off with it.

I agree that the london councillor should have been sent down but the jury found him not guilty

The bother who punched the female coppers at the airport ? ......he was remanded in custody last year , hes due to be sentenced in 3 weeks ......hes done 6 months in nick .....I sincerely hope he gets another year which would be a decent sentence ...18 months in total ....for breaking a female coppers nose and knocking down another one

If hes released in late june after being on remand some might argue 6 months is a fair sentence ....I dont think it is ....give him more

He and his brother have had two trials for assaulting the male copper .....both failed to reach a verdict

The reason there were suggestions of 2 tier policing at the time was that a lot went down for 2 years for violent disorder after the southport riots .....but violent disorder is one step down from riot and the courts treat that more seriously that thumping a copper

Regards

Sludge, I do not like for Annis to lose any board members, but really, why dont you join a political forum, instead of a football one, but i guess you have already done that, Then there is always Mikes message board , or is that not possible? has he banned you.?
This is a football forum, and political stuff does come up quite a lot, but lets be honest, you politicalise everythying. When I was on Mikes board you were exactly the same. Have they had enough of you over there ?

I cant remember you on mikes board

That’s a (poor) politicians response, which simply deflects from the point made

You were seemingly kicked off Mike’s Board for being you, so you are now infesting this one with your narrow self-opinionated views and foul responses to those who dare to think differently

You have ruined another thread that had meaning when it started and all so you can hear the sound of your own voice!

Truly embarrassing; or at least it would be, if you had any self-awareness!

Cup of cold sick Sludge.

Your worthless witterings are invariably so pathetic as not to even warrant thinking about a response. However, on this occasion as you’ve diminished the terrible death of a young man which, in itself, let alone the circumstances and deeper background should deeply concern us all I will venture some comments.

If you had given this matter some though you might have acknowledged that Henry Nowak was just the latest in a line of Britons murdered under similar circumstances with no justification whatsoever. Observable, provable fact. Pure coincidence?

No connections with drugs, turf wars, gangs, inter-ethnic politics or any of those things. Just being there.

It is also a fact that Hampshire Police through two of their women high-ups recently instituted anti-Racist programmes throughout the Force which it is difficult to believe did not impact upon the disgraceful behaviour of the police at the scene.

Police are allegedly required to ‘believe’ any accusation of ‘racism’ with no evidence whatsoever. If true is that reasonable?

In this case they had been told in the 999 call that someone had been stabbed and at the scene, Henry was bleeding from several wounds.

I believe it is also a reported fact that the Police confiscated the phones of Henry and his father to search for ‘racist’ comments.

Strangely, Mr Novak was not it appears, notified of Henrys’ death until 24 hrs after the event. Strange that. Wonder why?

There are incredible double standards in force as the State and its lackeys throughout politics, the media and of course the Police double, down on the imposition and enforcement of policies which we are not allowed to criticise.

And of course, there are the useful idiots who go along with it all. Perhaps because they want to feel good and are can’t think outside the approved herd mentality. the younger ones have a sort of excuse in that they've been conditioned in school and through media. People like you, not so much. No excuse at all.

None are so blind that will not see.

Two-tier Kier and the two-tier justice system is a description that is denied but thoughtful observers can work out for themselves whether this is a reality. Don’t forget, in ‘1984’ Orwell wrote of the State’s first and most important command, which was ‘to ignore the evidence of your own eyes.’

Are we simply to accept this state of affairs continuing and inevitably worsening?

From elsewhere:

‘Henry Nowak’s murder, the complicity of the murderer’s family and the refusal of police officers was political. Without the anti-white double standards that govern our current moral order, Henry would still be alive. But as ever, the problem is neither thy problem itself nor those importing the problem The problem is that too many of us are now noticing and trying to address the problem. We refuse any longer to tolerate a situation in which savage attacks on whites are at best a ‘tragedy’ while the merest discomfort -let alone the murder of (one of) any other group is treated as a moral emergency.’

Not talking about this problem doesn't make it go away. It simply defers the time of reckoning which must come.

To end, I’ll bet neither Henry’s mother or father are given a seat in the House of Lords.

This is an excellent, well written post.

Nonsense

The police were useless , they were clearly seen searching for stab wounds but couldnt find any ......not easy to see entry wounds but they should have found them

It was nothing to do with the poor guys race , it was crap , useless coppers

If there was some kind of cover up the police wouldnt have released the terrible video of the incident

If you have 100 coppers then if 10 of them are crap and useless this is going to happen

Black and Asian people are more likely to be arrested and charged with offences than us whiteys and are more likely to go to prison for similar offences and also get longer in prison

So yes ....there certainly is two tier policing and justice in this country .....and its not white people who are always on the wrong side of it

Absolute bollocks. People like you are the reason starmer and his minions have been able to run this country towards becoming an islamic state.

You are presented with the facts about arrests , tasering and prison sentences regarding white and black population

It shows that black population are treated with more direct discrimination than whites

Your answer ......the facts are bullshit and its lefty people causing all this

Absolutely off the radar you are

Black people commit a disproportionately higher level of crime. For these statistics to stand scrutiny it shouldn’t be based on the number of black people in the UK but rather as a percentage of black offenders.

Black people , black offenders get more prison sentences and longer prison time than white offenders , this is what the figures say and its been this way for a long time

A study was done on the riots in the northern towns between asians and whites and asians got longer sentences and more sentences

Thats two tier , obviously

Sludge, I do not like for Annis to lose any board members, but really, why dont you join a political forum, instead of a football one, but i guess you have already done that, Then there is always Mikes message board , or is that not possible? has he banned you.?
This is a football forum, and political stuff does come up quite a lot, but lets be honest, you politicalise everythying. When I was on Mikes board you were exactly the same. Have they had enough of you over there ?

I cant remember you on mikes board

That’s a (poor) politicians response, which simply deflects from the point made

You were seemingly kicked off Mike’s Board for being you, so you are now infesting this one with your narrow self-opinionated views and foul responses to those who dare to think differently

You have ruined another thread that had meaning when it started and all so you can hear the sound of your own voice!

Truly embarrassing; or at least it would be, if you had any self-awareness!

If people are going to post incorrect opinions and pass them off as facts then its perfectly reasonable to call them out

Thats initially what I tend to do but when one gets called a lefty etc etc its diffucult to debate sensibly so there you go

I am not interested in arguing between boards , I know several post over there from here using different names but I cant remember you

I don't pretend to know a huge amount about this case, but what it has highlighted perfectly is how a tragic news event like this can be used...in my opinion (and that's only what it is)...to keep this right-left, black-white, conservative-liberal narrative from playing out. Meaning that the general public are so busy attacking each other that they forget about holding the real criminals to account i.e those in power who continue to lie, steal and manipulate events large and small to further their agenda.

Rather than attacking each other, maybe we should all take a stand back and take a look at the complete shower we have as a government and political class in this country and hold them to account as much as we do each other.

And before anyone asks, no I don't vote. The problem with voting is the government still get in no matter what.

To quote Farage he wants the Country to respond with "pure cold rage"
Of course, when this happens he'll be hiding behind the armchair .The the level of policing is in the gutter. They tried to set me up once.
Currently showing on ITV x is the, rapist Warboys
The police dismissed women as drunken liars. He conned the parole board into releasing him after 8 years.
He was stopped by a brilliant barrister.
What happened to the kid who murdered is beyond comprehension.

Sludge has nailed it perfectly.
No amount of counter arguing is going to succeed in this matter. The far right always hijack tragic situations like this and use it for their own filthy agendas.

So was the killing of violent, misogynist, drug addict George Floyd , hijacked by the far left?

Spot on with the use of "far " . Far right and far left are two sides of the same coin. Extremists.
I am a centrist , a pragmatist , I abhor extreme political views , the far right use violence to achieve their ends , the far left use gaslighting and passive aggression to achieve theirs.
Both are noisy , both are wrong.