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Re: " DES BUCKINGHAM "

Fri May 30, 2025 4:04 pm

Nathan Jones?

Re: " DES BUCKINGHAM "

Fri May 30, 2025 4:05 pm

maccydee wrote:
JJ1927 wrote:
maccydee wrote:
Tailgunner wrote:Why is this a good decision
Manager of Mumbai City and Oxford
FFS


Oxford are in a division above Cardiff.

That manager took them there and on a fraction of the budget of Cardiff.


This was Liam Mannings team. When Buckingham took over they were in the automatic promotion spot and on chasing Pompey for top spot. They had 35 points from 16 games but then the form was mixed to say the least as they eventually finished 15 points off automatic in 5th place. So I don't buy this "he took them up agenda." He won the play offs fair enough but up until then he didn't really do much.


Manning’s team were sliding down the table and it was felt that he left while the going was good.

Des Buckingham transformed the team from functional to attacking football.

He was under a lot of pressure especially after losing 5-0 to Bolton but after an international break it finally clicked and the team started playing which eventually took them up.

The season before Oxford had almost been relegated so what Manning did was brilliant but he left for the Worzels.

Sliding down the table? Thats nonesense. They started sliding started when Buckingham came in. They had an automatic promotion place when he came in sliding from second to a very very distant 5th finishing 15 points behind automatic and scraping through to the into the play offs. He may have played attacking football but the stats clearly show that they were a middle table team under him and it was only the stella start under Manning that enabled them to cling onto to a play off place.

Re: " DES BUCKINGHAM "

Fri May 30, 2025 4:06 pm

If its true then he's been the top choice from the beginning for most supporters, Tan should have saved his cash and just picked him a month ago. Is a great choice for this league and hope fully the future. :bluebird:

Re: " DES BUCKINGHAM "

Fri May 30, 2025 4:07 pm

montyblue wrote:
montyblue wrote:
wez1927 wrote:
montyblue wrote:
wez1927 wrote:
montyblue wrote:
pembroke allan wrote:
montyblue wrote:A sacked manager from Oxford town who lost more games than he won, how could you not be exited by tans appointment,
Here endeth any protests,
as we "now all" have to get behind the new manager, and protests of any sort will be frowned upon by half the supporters, and the cycle will start all over again.



Your choice would be monty? Just so we clarify who's good enough for us!
Mist managers get sacked because of results even the good ones



I will roll with whoever but a lot seem to be wetting themselves at someone who has been sacked back in dec and no club have come in for him,
it might work out fine I hope it does but I will wait and see before I wet myself with excitement if he is the best of a choice of 3 fair enough .
But be honest he is a budget appointment tan was not going to pick a higher grade manager to make sure we win division 3 at the first attempt.
The bigger picture will be how much will tan spend on new recruits and cover all those that have left this should tell every fan how much the club ambitions are.

What's a high grade manager in league one?.


Not you aswell.

Genuine question with a league one budget who would you get ? .



Why have a league 1 budget ?



Tan could push the boat out, no need for a budget that's "my point" no need to be on a shoestring budget


You want tan BACKINGHIM, BUCKINGHAM :laughing6:

Re: " DES BUCKINGHAM "

Fri May 30, 2025 4:26 pm

Nathan Jones been mentioned again.

Re: " DES BUCKINGHAM "

Fri May 30, 2025 4:38 pm

worcester_ccfc wrote:
Forever Blue wrote:It’s shocking and unbelievable that some Posters are having ago at OP

Ned / Worcester is Saying what he has heard


Thank you Annis and everyone else who has said similar.

I'm doubling down on this, Buckingham will be our manager.

As has been said, the formalities sometimes take time to be processed but it will be official soon.


I have no beef with your saying he's our next manager i just said i am not wetting myself with exitment

Re: " DES BUCKINGHAM "

Fri May 30, 2025 5:11 pm

montyblue wrote:
worcester_ccfc wrote:
Forever Blue wrote:It’s shocking and unbelievable that some Posters are having ago at OP

Ned / Worcester is Saying what he has heard


Thank you Annis and everyone else who has said similar.

I'm doubling down on this, Buckingham will be our manager.

As has been said, the formalities sometimes take time to be processed but it will be official soon.


I have no beef with your saying he's our next manager i just said i am not wetting myself with exitment


Yes I'm not having a go at you Monty, entitled to your opinion on that.

Just don't want people calling me a liar when what I've been told is in good faith and I believe it will happen.

Re: " DES BUCKINGHAM "

Fri May 30, 2025 5:13 pm

worcester_ccfc wrote:
montyblue wrote:
worcester_ccfc wrote:
Forever Blue wrote:It’s shocking and unbelievable that some Posters are having ago at OP

Ned / Worcester is Saying what he has heard


Thank you Annis and everyone else who has said similar.

I'm doubling down on this, Buckingham will be our manager.

As has been said, the formalities sometimes take time to be processed but it will be official soon.


I have no beef with your saying he's our next manager i just said i am not wetting myself with exitment


Yes I'm not having a go at you Monty, entitled to your opinion on that.

Just don't want people calling me a liar when what I've been told is in good faith and I believe it will happen.

Worcester, I appreciate any news.
What makes you think this will happen? Is it a club source?

Re: " DES BUCKINGHAM "

Fri May 30, 2025 5:26 pm

Hopefully it isn't the same source who told you Riza had been sacked?

Re: " DES BUCKINGHAM "

Fri May 30, 2025 5:41 pm

He's putting out what he knows when he knows it & if you don't believe what he says then fair enough but the constant nit picking by some is a little much. If you think he's talking crap then just ignore it, personally I'll wait for an official announcement & support whoever the manager is.

Support the team, not the regime.

Re: " DES BUCKINGHAM "

Fri May 30, 2025 6:11 pm

Welshman in CA wrote:He's putting out what he knows when he knows it & if you don't believe what he says then fair enough but the constant nit picking by some is a little much. If you think he's talking crap then just ignore it, personally I'll wait for an official announcement & support whoever the manager is.

Support the team, not the regime.

Well said, Andrew :thumbup:

These things take time; particularly in Vincent Tan’s world, where he wants all bases covered after so many ‘duds’ (most of his own making but not all)

All will be revealed soon enough either way and we can all (maybe most) move on by getting behind the new man :ayatollah:

Re: " DES BUCKINGHAM "

Fri May 30, 2025 6:17 pm

willhenry wrote:Hopefully it isn't the same source who told you Riza had been sacked?

Worcester didn’t put out that story. Check your facts before trying to look smart :thumbup:

Re: " DES BUCKINGHAM "

Fri May 30, 2025 6:24 pm

When I read an official statement from the club I will then believe any rumours.

Re: " DES BUCKINGHAM "

Fri May 30, 2025 6:29 pm

Plymuff Bloobird wrote:When I read an official statement from the club I will then believe any rumours.


That's fair enough and understandable, wish more people would reply like that instead of firing shots at someone for just posting something they've heard.


Still say this will happen - I never said the announcement would be today, some people should remember that.

As said by Sven, it takes a bit of time for the formalities to go through.

But I fully expect Buckingham to be officially confirmed as our new manager over the next few days.

If he isn't appointed, people have a fair reason to criticise me then.

Re: " DES BUCKINGHAM "

Fri May 30, 2025 6:37 pm

To be fair this does seem a good appointment but I rather think that without a DOF of some sort employed as well by the club then we will struggle with who ever is in charge, especially with Tans input in telling managers that he knows best and interferes with team affairs too much, just a little disappointed that a person with football knowledge was not installed upstairs to over see football matters first.

Re: " DES BUCKINGHAM "

Fri May 30, 2025 6:44 pm

birdy1964 wrote:To be fair this does seem a good appointment but I rather think that without a DOF of some sort employed as well by the club then we will struggle with who ever is in charge, especially with Tans input in telling managers that he knows best and interferes with team affairs too much, just a little disappointed that a person with football knowledge was not installed upstairs to over see football matters first.

One of the positives of Des Buckingham is that he won’t be a ‘yes man:ayatollah:

Re: " DES BUCKINGHAM "

Fri May 30, 2025 7:00 pm

Sven wrote:
birdy1964 wrote:To be fair this does seem a good appointment but I rather think that without a DOF of some sort employed as well by the club then we will struggle with who ever is in charge, especially with Tans input in telling managers that he knows best and interferes with team affairs too much, just a little disappointed that a person with football knowledge was not installed upstairs to over see football matters first.

One of the positives of Des Buckingham is that he won’t be a ‘yes man:ayatollah:


100%.

When he was under pressure at Oxford he stuck to his guns. Fans were on him a bit saying the high press isn’t working. The board questioned him as well. The CEO admitted as much end of season. He said we need time. Once it worked it really worked. He will have the players fit to play the brand of football we have pretty much all said we want to see.

Having a pre season will make a huge difference.

Re: " DES BUCKINGHAM "

Fri May 30, 2025 7:27 pm

Listen what I'm hearing if it's Buckingham he's the bees knees make of that what you will if true good times ahead

Re: " DES BUCKINGHAM "

Fri May 30, 2025 8:07 pm

I’ll also believe it when I see it but I will say that Ned only posts stuff that has legs with a credible source.

I’ve also been one to criticise when some ‘itk’ post and I will continue to do so if it seems like it’s a complete shot in the wind, without mentioning any names.

Let’s hope this comes off.

To those not happy, I ask simply, why and who realistically could we get who is better?

Re: " DES BUCKINGHAM "

Fri May 30, 2025 8:18 pm

Obviously I will support him but it doesn’t make the pulse race

Re: " DES BUCKINGHAM "

Fri May 30, 2025 9:09 pm

desbluebird wrote:Listen what I'm hearing if it's Buckingham he's the bees knees make of that what you will if true good times ahead


Your name is very apt.

Re: " DES BUCKINGHAM "

Fri May 30, 2025 9:55 pm

I think Buckingham is the best choice out of the list. Sadly, I don’t see much changing though with the hierarchy still in charge. We’ve had plenty of managers previously under Tan and most of them have failed. I can’t believe Buckingham has gone in with an attitude that he won’t be a Tan pleaser if he’s likely to get the job.

However, I live in hope…..

Re: " DES BUCKINGHAM "

Fri May 30, 2025 10:02 pm

Hmmmmm…..

Odds have changed quite a bit in the last hour.

Buckingham gone from odds on of 2/5 back down to evens
Barry-Murphy now 3/1
Ramsey the big mover has gone 8/1 earlier to 4/1 this evening ?

Could be the bookies just covering themselves as they too were probably expecting an announcement today ?

Re: " DES BUCKINGHAM "

Fri May 30, 2025 11:16 pm

stickywicket wrote:Nathan Jones?



Apparently he is still and option! Tan supposedly had a list a week ago given to him by the agency

Re: " DES BUCKINGHAM "

Sat May 31, 2025 12:11 am

Nathan still in the running is crazy, and I love it!

Des is great, but there is no metric in football's Top Trumps that Des beats Nathan, but realistically, why would he drop a Chasim to L1

Can't see it, more than happy with des

Re: " DES BUCKINGHAM "

Sat May 31, 2025 12:32 am

llan bluebird wrote:Nathan still in the running is crazy, and I love it!

Des is great, but there is no metric in football's Top Trumps that Des beats Nathan, but realistically, why would he drop a Chasim to L1

Can't see it, more than happy with des



Football is strange buisness! Managers today have very little loyalty to clubs... Liam manning is jumping ship at Bristol despite playoffs why? Because owner didn't back him any relative successful manager will leave for this reason Jones can easily leave in same situation

Re: " DES BUCKINGHAM "

Sat May 31, 2025 6:35 am

I’ve heard Plymouth have spoken to Des Buckingham as well

Re: " DES BUCKINGHAM "

Sat May 31, 2025 8:35 am

Forever Blue wrote:I’ve heard Plymouth have spoken to Des Buckingham as well



Unfortunately Annis there's several suitable unemployed managers and several clubs looking for new manager not a good combination for clubs like city! But think his is why no decision these managers are being interviewed by more than one club which takes time.....although did hear tan was given list a week ago if correct decision should been made soon after but typical tan no action until to late.... just hope get decent man and not some untried unknown from Disney world!

Re: " DES BUCKINGHAM "

Sat May 31, 2025 9:23 am

llan bluebird wrote:Nathan still in the running is crazy, and I love it!

Des is great, but there is no metric in football's Top Trumps that Des beats Nathan, but realistically, why would he drop a Chasim to L1

Can't see it, more than happy with des


I disagree with that. Media stuff Des trumps him massively.

Jones has had chances at higher clubs and is found wanting everytime.
Luton pushed on after he left. He took Charlton up via the playoffs like Des did for Oxford.

Re: " DES BUCKINGHAM "

Sat May 31, 2025 11:31 am

Sven wrote:
willhenry wrote:Hopefully it isn't the same source who told you Riza had been sacked?

Worcester didn’t put out that story. Check your facts before trying to look smart :thumbup:


I’m pretty sure he did.
viewtopic.php?f=2&t=244107&p=2508102&hilit=Riza+sacked#p2508102

And what’s the issue that he did? He was only sharing information in good faith Worcester wasn’t doing anything malicious.