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Re: If Sam came back hopefully he gets fair treatment

Tue Dec 06, 2022 12:59 pm

Forever Blue wrote:What will be will be if Sam comes back then the fans against Sam will just have to give him a chance and wait and see or if it’s someone else the same fans will have to give them a chance and wait and see.

But it’s time Tan left as we will only head one way as that’s down the way we are currently being run.


I think the first few weeks of (the hypothetical) Sam’s reign would be really important. He has to get those who are anti him onside if he wants to unite the club.

I am not a hypocrite so will say (as I did in the OP) that despite the mistakes made he has to be given a fair go. The fair go that many simply don’t give to Tan. In fact bill actually say Sam deserves more leeway due to the fantastic times we had when he first took over.

I think an interview with Sam by the eggo would be fascinating, especially if Sam offered an olive branch and said something along the lines of “Tan has been really good for this club.”

Re: If Sam came back hopefully he gets fair treatment

Tue Dec 06, 2022 1:49 pm

Sven wrote:
davids wrote:
Paul Keevil wrote:When VT took over we were excited because he had money to spend. Well, if what I'm hearing is true, Sam is quite possibly more well off than Tan.

VT has lost interest whereas Sam, even to this day, considers Cardiff his club in the same way our supporters do

Sam counts probably but 95% of clubs in the UK. It appears that we are the only club that matter to him

Someone who has money. Someone who has bluebird blood in their veins - this is what supporter's have been wishing for years.

He will have my support 200%


Has Sam won the lottery by any chance?

Perhaps he put that £500k he demanded at the last minute before signing the club over on red at the casino over the road from the ground.

No, but if you followed Sam's fortunes (very apt word here) in any sense, you would know that his return to the Middle East has reaped its rewards and some more

Have him back? As an owner and a character, I 100% would

Equally, I'm not one to condemn Vincent Tan's tenure. But if, as I now believe, he has tired of us (maybe as ungrateful fans than the club itself?) then he should sell and allow the club to go in a different direction; whether that be to Sam or another new owner


Can you share some links or resources for this? Because there is very little online, and what is online states his fortune is around the $8 million mark.

Re: If Sam came back hopefully he gets fair treatment

Tue Dec 06, 2022 1:53 pm

JasonFowler1991 wrote:
Sven wrote:
davids wrote:
Paul Keevil wrote:When VT took over we were excited because he had money to spend. Well, if what I'm hearing is true, Sam is quite possibly more well off than Tan.

VT has lost interest whereas Sam, even to this day, considers Cardiff his club in the same way our supporters do

Sam counts probably but 95% of clubs in the UK. It appears that we are the only club that matter to him

Someone who has money. Someone who has bluebird blood in their veins - this is what supporter's have been wishing for years.

He will have my support 200%


Has Sam won the lottery by any chance?

Perhaps he put that £500k he demanded at the last minute before signing the club over on red at the casino over the road from the ground.

No, but if you followed Sam's fortunes (very apt word here) in any sense, you would know that his return to the Middle East has reaped its rewards and some more

Have him back? As an owner and a character, I 100% would

Equally, I'm not one to condemn Vincent Tan's tenure. But if, as I now believe, he has tired of us (maybe as ungrateful fans than the club itself?) then he should sell and allow the club to go in a different direction; whether that be to Sam or another new owner


Can you share some links or resources for this? Because there is very little online, and what is online states his fortune is around the $8 million mark.


It will be fine.

Re: If Sam came back hopefully he gets fair treatment

Tue Dec 06, 2022 2:03 pm

maccydee wrote:
Forever Blue wrote:What will be will be if Sam comes back then the fans against Sam will just have to give him a chance and wait and see or if it’s someone else the same fans will have to give them a chance and wait and see.

But it’s time Tan left as we will only head one way as that’s down the way we are currently being run.


I think the first few weeks of (the hypothetical) Sam’s reign would be really important. He has to get those who are anti him onside if he wants to unite the club.

I am not a hypocrite so will say (as I did in the OP) that despite the mistakes made he has to be given a fair go. The fair go that many simply don’t give to Tan. In fact bill actually say Sam deserves more leeway due to the fantastic times we had when he first took over.

I think an interview with Sam by the eggo would be fascinating, especially if Sam offered an olive branch and said something along the lines of “Tan has been really good for this club.”


He would be better off interviewing with a podcaster.

Legacy media is known for taking cuts and misrepresenting stories. You can see the entire talk and form your opinion with a podcast.

Re: If Sam came back hopefully he gets fair treatment

Tue Dec 06, 2022 2:06 pm

maccydee wrote:
JasonFowler1991 wrote:
Sven wrote:
davids wrote:
Paul Keevil wrote:When VT took over we were excited because he had money to spend. Well, if what I'm hearing is true, Sam is quite possibly more well off than Tan.

VT has lost interest whereas Sam, even to this day, considers Cardiff his club in the same way our supporters do

Sam counts probably but 95% of clubs in the UK. It appears that we are the only club that matter to him

Someone who has money. Someone who has bluebird blood in their veins - this is what supporter's have been wishing for years.

He will have my support 200%


Has Sam won the lottery by any chance?

Perhaps he put that £500k he demanded at the last minute before signing the club over on red at the casino over the road from the ground.

No, but if you followed Sam's fortunes (very apt word here) in any sense, you would know that his return to the Middle East has reaped its rewards and some more

Have him back? As an owner and a character, I 100% would

Equally, I'm not one to condemn Vincent Tan's tenure. But if, as I now believe, he has tired of us (maybe as ungrateful fans than the club itself?) then he should sell and allow the club to go in a different direction; whether that be to Sam or another new owner


Can you share some links or resources for this? Because there is very little online, and what is online states his fortune is around the $8 million mark.


It will be fine.


I want to verify that what people are saying is true.

In this day and age, it's easy to find the net worth of most individuals. When it comes to Sam, there is no news about him online, and the only article with a mention of his net worth has it substantially lower than what those on here claim.

Re: If Sam came back hopefully he gets fair treatment

Tue Dec 06, 2022 2:11 pm

JasonFowler1991 wrote:
maccydee wrote:
JasonFowler1991 wrote:
Sven wrote:
davids wrote:
Paul Keevil wrote:When VT took over we were excited because he had money to spend. Well, if what I'm hearing is true, Sam is quite possibly more well off than Tan.

VT has lost interest whereas Sam, even to this day, considers Cardiff his club in the same way our supporters do

Sam counts probably but 95% of clubs in the UK. It appears that we are the only club that matter to him

Someone who has money. Someone who has bluebird blood in their veins - this is what supporter's have been wishing for years.

He will have my support 200%


Has Sam won the lottery by any chance?

Perhaps he put that £500k he demanded at the last minute before signing the club over on red at the casino over the road from the ground.

No, but if you followed Sam's fortunes (very apt word here) in any sense, you would know that his return to the Middle East has reaped its rewards and some more

Have him back? As an owner and a character, I 100% would

Equally, I'm not one to condemn Vincent Tan's tenure. But if, as I now believe, he has tired of us (maybe as ungrateful fans than the club itself?) then he should sell and allow the club to go in a different direction; whether that be to Sam or another new owner


Can you share some links or resources for this? Because there is very little online, and what is online states his fortune is around the $8 million mark.


It will be fine.


I want to verify that what people are saying is true.

In this day and age, it's easy to find the net worth of most individuals. When it comes to Sam, there is no news about him online, and the only article with a mention of his net worth has it substantially lower than what those on here claim.


I was gonna write he could do what he did last time and take loans against the club but they would not be in the spirit of my post so I wrote it will be fine.

Re: If Sam came back hopefully he gets fair treatment

Tue Dec 06, 2022 6:50 pm

maccydee wrote:
JasonFowler1991 wrote:
maccydee wrote:
JasonFowler1991 wrote:
Sven wrote:
davids wrote:
Paul Keevil wrote:When VT took over we were excited because he had money to spend. Well, if what I'm hearing is true, Sam is quite possibly more well off than Tan.

VT has lost interest whereas Sam, even to this day, considers Cardiff his club in the same way our supporters do

Sam counts probably but 95% of clubs in the UK. It appears that we are the only club that matter to him

Someone who has money. Someone who has bluebird blood in their veins - this is what supporter's have been wishing for years.

He will have my support 200%


Has Sam won the lottery by any chance?

Perhaps he put that £500k he demanded at the last minute before signing the club over on red at the casino over the road from the ground.

No, but if you followed Sam's fortunes (very apt word here) in any sense, you would know that his return to the Middle East has reaped its rewards and some more

Have him back? As an owner and a character, I 100% would

Equally, I'm not one to condemn Vincent Tan's tenure. But if, as I now believe, he has tired of us (maybe as ungrateful fans than the club itself?) then he should sell and allow the club to go in a different direction; whether that be to Sam or another new owner


Can you share some links or resources for this? Because there is very little online, and what is online states his fortune is around the $8 million mark.


It will be fine.


I want to verify that what people are saying is true.

In this day and age, it's easy to find the net worth of most individuals. When it comes to Sam, there is no news about him online, and the only article with a mention of his net worth has it substantially lower than what those on here claim.


I was gonna write he could do what he did last time and take loans against the club but they would not be in the spirit of my post so I wrote it will be fine.




I will just say it now Sam and his family have more than what it takes to go up and survive in the Prem.
Without loans.

Re: If Sam came back hopefully he gets fair treatment

Tue Dec 06, 2022 7:19 pm

Whichever way we look at it I can’t see it being a bad thing.

There are a number of reasons why he might want to buy us and each one is a positive.

1) he wants to rectify the mistakes he made in the past for his own honour
2) he does love the club and wants to rectify his mistakes due to that love
3) he wants to make money. To do he isn’t buying a championship club to stay there he’s buying a club to take us to the premier league and push us on when we get there.

If anyone can think of anything else I’m all ears.

Re: If Sam came back hopefully he gets fair treatment

Tue Dec 06, 2022 7:41 pm

maccydee wrote:Whichever way we look at it I can’t see it being a bad thing.

There are a number of reasons why he might want to buy us and each one is a positive.

1) he wants to rectify the mistakes he made in the past for his own honour
2) he does love the club and wants to rectify his mistakes due to that love
3) he wants to make money. To do he isn’t buying a championship club to stay there he’s buying a club to take us to the premier league and push us on when we get there.

If anyone can think of anything else I’m all ears.



How about he closely follows the club, knows Vinny has grown tired of us, and put in a cheeky offer to see if he got a bite?

Re: If Sam came back hopefully he gets fair treatment

Tue Dec 06, 2022 8:43 pm

llan bluebird wrote:
maccydee wrote:Whichever way we look at it I can’t see it being a bad thing.

There are a number of reasons why he might want to buy us and each one is a positive.

1) he wants to rectify the mistakes he made in the past for his own honour
2) he does love the club and wants to rectify his mistakes due to that love
3) he wants to make money. To do he isn’t buying a championship club to stay there he’s buying a club to take us to the premier league and push us on when we get there.

If anyone can think of anything else I’m all ears.



How about he closely follows the club, knows Vinny has grown tired of us, and put in a cheeky offer to see if he got a bite?


That’s the buying of the club. Why? What happens then?

Re: If Sam came back hopefully he gets fair treatment

Tue Dec 06, 2022 9:49 pm

Sam isn't coming back ,he admits himself he hasn't got the type of money to do cardiff city justice, maybe annis can comment on here .

Re: If Sam came back hopefully he gets fair treatment

Tue Dec 06, 2022 10:03 pm

maccydee wrote:
llan bluebird wrote:
maccydee wrote:Whichever way we look at it I can’t see it being a bad thing.

There are a number of reasons why he might want to buy us and each one is a positive.

1) he wants to rectify the mistakes he made in the past for his own honour
2) he does love the club and wants to rectify his mistakes due to that love
3) he wants to make money. To do he isn’t buying a championship club to stay there he’s buying a club to take us to the premier league and push us on when we get there.

If anyone can think of anything else I’m all ears.



How about he closely follows the club, knows Vinny has grown tired of us, and put in a cheeky offer to see if he got a bite?


That’s the buying of the club. Why? What happens then?



We have a Sam shit or bust gamble going for the promised land for the third time then he sells shares or, we fail and it's the taxman and banks all again.

It would be more fun than today

Re: If Sam came back hopefully he gets fair treatment

Tue Dec 06, 2022 10:09 pm

Forever Blue wrote:
maccydee wrote:
JasonFowler1991 wrote:
maccydee wrote:
JasonFowler1991 wrote:
Sven wrote:
davids wrote:
Paul Keevil wrote:When VT took over we were excited because he had money to spend. Well, if what I'm hearing is true, Sam is quite possibly more well off than Tan.

VT has lost interest whereas Sam, even to this day, considers Cardiff his club in the same way our supporters do

Sam counts probably but 95% of clubs in the UK. It appears that we are the only club that matter to him

Someone who has money. Someone who has bluebird blood in their veins - this is what supporter's have been wishing for years.

He will have my support 200%


Has Sam won the lottery by any chance?

Perhaps he put that £500k he demanded at the last minute before signing the club over on red at the casino over the road from the ground.

No, but if you followed Sam's fortunes (very apt word here) in any sense, you would know that his return to the Middle East has reaped its rewards and some more

Have him back? As an owner and a character, I 100% would

Equally, I'm not one to condemn Vincent Tan's tenure. But if, as I now believe, he has tired of us (maybe as ungrateful fans than the club itself?) then he should sell and allow the club to go in a different direction; whether that be to Sam or another new owner


Can you share some links or resources for this? Because there is very little online, and what is online states his fortune is around the $8 million mark.


It will be fine.


I want to verify that what people are saying is true.

In this day and age, it's easy to find the net worth of most individuals. When it comes to Sam, there is no news about him online, and the only article with a mention of his net worth has it substantially lower than what those on here claim.


I was gonna write he could do what he did last time and take loans against the club but they would not be in the spirit of my post so I wrote it will be fine.




I will just say it now Sam and his family have more than what it takes to go up and survive in the Prem.
Without loans.

Didn't he tell you recently that he hasn't got enough to do it justice tho ? .

Re: If Sam came back hopefully he gets fair treatment

Wed Dec 07, 2022 12:05 am

Leopard never changes its spots!

Re: If Sam came back hopefully he gets fair treatment

Wed Dec 07, 2022 1:24 pm

wez1927 wrote:
Forever Blue wrote:
maccydee wrote:
JasonFowler1991 wrote:
maccydee wrote:
JasonFowler1991 wrote:
Sven wrote:
davids wrote:
Paul Keevil wrote:When VT took over we were excited because he had money to spend. Well, if what I'm hearing is true, Sam is quite possibly more well off than Tan.

VT has lost interest whereas Sam, even to this day, considers Cardiff his club in the same way our supporters do

Sam counts probably but 95% of clubs in the UK. It appears that we are the only club that matter to him

Someone who has money. Someone who has bluebird blood in their veins - this is what supporter's have been wishing for years.

He will have my support 200%


Has Sam won the lottery by any chance?

Perhaps he put that £500k he demanded at the last minute before signing the club over on red at the casino over the road from the ground.

No, but if you followed Sam's fortunes (very apt word here) in any sense, you would know that his return to the Middle East has reaped its rewards and some more

Have him back? As an owner and a character, I 100% would

Equally, I'm not one to condemn Vincent Tan's tenure. But if, as I now believe, he has tired of us (maybe as ungrateful fans than the club itself?) then he should sell and allow the club to go in a different direction; whether that be to Sam or another new owner


Can you share some links or resources for this? Because there is very little online, and what is online states his fortune is around the $8 million mark.


It will be fine.


I want to verify that what people are saying is true.

In this day and age, it's easy to find the net worth of most individuals. When it comes to Sam, there is no news about him online, and the only article with a mention of his net worth has it substantially lower than what those on here claim.


I was gonna write he could do what he did last time and take loans against the club but they would not be in the spirit of my post so I wrote it will be fine.




I will just say it now Sam and his family have more than what it takes to go up and survive in the Prem.
Without loans.

Didn't he tell you recently that he hasn't got enough to do it justice tho ? .


I initially believed that Sam did have the money needed. However, nobody on here, including me can find anything confirming he has much more than he had previously.

This is pretty unusual to business men in this day and age. In fact, their worth tends to be exaggerated not minimised.

This is massively important as the last thing we want is to go back to the club living hand to mouth and having nothing to invest in the playing side.

Important to note, this isn’t just because it’s Sam. I would want to know the background of anyone wanting to buy the club because “better the devil you know” has been proved more times with football clubs than virtually any other type of business.

Re: If Sam came back hopefully he gets fair treatment

Wed Dec 07, 2022 2:03 pm

piledriver64 wrote:
wez1927 wrote:
Forever Blue wrote:
maccydee wrote:
JasonFowler1991 wrote:
maccydee wrote:
JasonFowler1991 wrote:
Sven wrote:
davids wrote:
Paul Keevil wrote:When VT took over we were excited because he had money to spend. Well, if what I'm hearing is true, Sam is quite possibly more well off than Tan.

VT has lost interest whereas Sam, even to this day, considers Cardiff his club in the same way our supporters do

Sam counts probably but 95% of clubs in the UK. It appears that we are the only club that matter to him

Someone who has money. Someone who has bluebird blood in their veins - this is what supporter's have been wishing for years.

He will have my support 200%


Has Sam won the lottery by any chance?

Perhaps he put that £500k he demanded at the last minute before signing the club over on red at the casino over the road from the ground.

No, but if you followed Sam's fortunes (very apt word here) in any sense, you would know that his return to the Middle East has reaped its rewards and some more

Have him back? As an owner and a character, I 100% would

Equally, I'm not one to condemn Vincent Tan's tenure. But if, as I now believe, he has tired of us (maybe as ungrateful fans than the club itself?) then he should sell and allow the club to go in a different direction; whether that be to Sam or another new owner


Can you share some links or resources for this? Because there is very little online, and what is online states his fortune is around the $8 million mark.


It will be fine.


I want to verify that what people are saying is true.

In this day and age, it's easy to find the net worth of most individuals. When it comes to Sam, there is no news about him online, and the only article with a mention of his net worth has it substantially lower than what those on here claim.


I was gonna write he could do what he did last time and take loans against the club but they would not be in the spirit of my post so I wrote it will be fine.




I will just say it now Sam and his family have more than what it takes to go up and survive in the Prem.
Without loans.

Didn't he tell you recently that he hasn't got enough to do it justice tho ? .


I initially believed that Sam did have the money needed. However, nobody on here, including me can find anything confirming he has much more than he had previously.

This is pretty unusual to business men in this day and age. In fact, their worth tends to be exaggerated not minimised.

This is massively important as the last thing we want is to go back to the club living hand to mouth and having nothing to invest in the playing side.

Important to note, this isn’t just because it’s Sam. I would want to know the background of anyone wanting to buy the club because “better the devil you know” has been proved more times with football clubs than virtually any other type of business.



Transparency is vital when dealing with football fans? to many times we've been cought out because things were never what they appeared to be!! Your right cannot go back to hand in mouth setup... we need a clear and open owner who is not afraid to be ambitious even if takes 5yrs of adjustment to achieve things..

Re: If Sam came back hopefully he gets fair treatment

Wed Dec 07, 2022 2:51 pm

ARRGHHH. STOP USING THE BLOODY QUOTE BUTTON.
thank you.

Re: If Sam came back hopefully he gets fair treatment

Wed Dec 07, 2022 3:16 pm

piledriver64 wrote:
wez1927 wrote:
Forever Blue wrote:
maccydee wrote:
JasonFowler1991 wrote:
maccydee wrote:
JasonFowler1991 wrote:
Sven wrote:
davids wrote:
Paul Keevil wrote:When VT took over we were excited because he had money to spend. Well, if what I'm hearing is true, Sam is quite possibly more well off than Tan.

VT has lost interest whereas Sam, even to this day, considers Cardiff his club in the same way our supporters do

Sam counts probably but 95% of clubs in the UK. It appears that we are the only club that matter to him

Someone who has money. Someone who has bluebird blood in their veins - this is what supporter's have been wishing for years.

He will have my support 200%


Has Sam won the lottery by any chance?

Perhaps he put that £500k he demanded at the last minute before signing the club over on red at the casino over the road from the ground.

No, but if you followed Sam's fortunes (very apt word here) in any sense, you would know that his return to the Middle East has reaped its rewards and some more

Have him back? As an owner and a character, I 100% would

Equally, I'm not one to condemn Vincent Tan's tenure. But if, as I now believe, he has tired of us (maybe as ungrateful fans than the club itself?) then he should sell and allow the club to go in a different direction; whether that be to Sam or another new owner


Can you share some links or resources for this? Because there is very little online, and what is online states his fortune is around the $8 million mark.


It will be fine.


I want to verify that what people are saying is true.

In this day and age, it's easy to find the net worth of most individuals. When it comes to Sam, there is no news about him online, and the only article with a mention of his net worth has it substantially lower than what those on here claim.


I was gonna write he could do what he did last time and take loans against the club but they would not be in the spirit of my post so I wrote it will be fine.




I will just say it now Sam and his family have more than what it takes to go up and survive in the Prem.
Without loans.

Didn't he tell you recently that he hasn't got enough to do it justice tho ? .


I initially believed that Sam did have the money needed. However, nobody on here, including me can find anything confirming he has much more than he had previously.

This is pretty unusual to business men in this day and age. In fact, their worth tends to be exaggerated not minimised.

This is massively important as the last thing we want is to go back to the club living hand to mouth and having nothing to invest in the playing side.

Important to note, this isn’t just because it’s Sam. I would want to know the background of anyone wanting to buy the club because “better the devil you know” has been proved more times with football clubs than virtually any other type of business.

My question was to annis not you ,me and annis had a conversation a few weeks ago and he said sam admitted to him ,himself that he didn't have the 250million plus he believes he would need to buy and investment to get us up .

Re: If Sam came back hopefully he gets fair treatment

Wed Dec 07, 2022 7:30 pm

wez1927 wrote:
Forever Blue wrote:
maccydee wrote:
JasonFowler1991 wrote:
maccydee wrote:
JasonFowler1991 wrote:
Sven wrote:
davids wrote:
Paul Keevil wrote:When VT took over we were excited because he had money to spend. Well, if what I'm hearing is true, Sam is quite possibly more well off than Tan.

VT has lost interest whereas Sam, even to this day, considers Cardiff his club in the same way our supporters do

Sam counts probably but 95% of clubs in the UK. It appears that we are the only club that matter to him

Someone who has money. Someone who has bluebird blood in their veins - this is what supporter's have been wishing for years.

He will have my support 200%


Has Sam won the lottery by any chance?

Perhaps he put that £500k he demanded at the last minute before signing the club over on red at the casino over the road from the ground.

No, but if you followed Sam's fortunes (very apt word here) in any sense, you would know that his return to the Middle East has reaped its rewards and some more

Have him back? As an owner and a character, I 100% would

Equally, I'm not one to condemn Vincent Tan's tenure. But if, as I now believe, he has tired of us (maybe as ungrateful fans than the club itself?) then he should sell and allow the club to go in a different direction; whether that be to Sam or another new owner


Can you share some links or resources for this? Because there is very little online, and what is online states his fortune is around the $8 million mark.


It will be fine.


I want to verify that what people are saying is true.

In this day and age, it's easy to find the net worth of most individuals. When it comes to Sam, there is no news about him online, and the only article with a mention of his net worth has it substantially lower than what those on here claim.


I was gonna write he could do what he did last time and take loans against the club but they would not be in the spirit of my post so I wrote it will be fine.




I will just say it now Sam and his family have more than what it takes to go up and survive in the Prem.
Without loans.

Didn't he tell you recently that he hasn't got enough to do it justice tho ? .






I told you Wez,

Sam did have the funds and could get them like yesterday that was my conversation with you.

Re: If Sam came back hopefully he gets fair treatment

Wed Dec 07, 2022 7:31 pm

I’m going to leave it there and let’s see what plays out on who buys us.



I told you Wez,

Sam did have the funds and could get them like yesterday that was my conversation with you.

Re: If Sam came back hopefully he gets fair treatment

Wed Dec 07, 2022 9:08 pm

Forever Blue wrote:
wez1927 wrote:
Forever Blue wrote:
maccydee wrote:
JasonFowler1991 wrote:
maccydee wrote:
JasonFowler1991 wrote:
Sven wrote:
davids wrote:
Paul Keevil wrote:When VT took over we were excited because he had money to spend. Well, if what I'm hearing is true, Sam is quite possibly more well off than Tan.

VT has lost interest whereas Sam, even to this day, considers Cardiff his club in the same way our supporters do

Sam counts probably but 95% of clubs in the UK. It appears that we are the only club that matter to him

Someone who has money. Someone who has bluebird blood in their veins - this is what supporter's have been wishing for years.

He will have my support 200%


Has Sam won the lottery by any chance?

Perhaps he put that £500k he demanded at the last minute before signing the club over on red at the casino over the road from the ground.

No, but if you followed Sam's fortunes (very apt word here) in any sense, you would know that his return to the Middle East has reaped its rewards and some more

Have him back? As an owner and a character, I 100% would

Equally, I'm not one to condemn Vincent Tan's tenure. But if, as I now believe, he has tired of us (maybe as ungrateful fans than the club itself?) then he should sell and allow the club to go in a different direction; whether that be to Sam or another new owner


Can you share some links or resources for this? Because there is very little online, and what is online states his fortune is around the $8 million mark.


It will be fine.


I want to verify that what people are saying is true.

In this day and age, it's easy to find the net worth of most individuals. When it comes to Sam, there is no news about him online, and the only article with a mention of his net worth has it substantially lower than what those on here claim.


I was gonna write he could do what he did last time and take loans against the club but they would not be in the spirit of my post so I wrote it will be fine.




I will just say it now Sam and his family have more than what it takes to go up and survive in the Prem.
Without loans.

Didn't he tell you recently that he hasn't got enough to do it justice tho ? .






I told you Wez,

Sam did have the funds and could get them like yesterday that was my conversation with you.

You said that the amount needed was too much north of 250 million ?

Re: If Sam came back hopefully he gets fair treatment

Wed Dec 07, 2022 9:46 pm

I’m not a Tan hater neither am I a Tan lover, the same goes for Sam. I loved the Sam years until the months leading upto what happened but I’d be open for his return as long as he has substantial funds to take us to where we belong and keep us there going for honours.
I personally think Tan’s time is up and has taken us as far as he can so it really is time for him to let go.
I guess we’ll see what happens soon enough.
I just want the best for the club I love :ayatollah:

Re: If Sam came back hopefully he gets fair treatment

Thu Dec 08, 2022 8:11 am

Ponty Bluebird wrote:I’m not a Tan hater neither am I a Tan lover, the same goes for Sam. I loved the Sam years until the months leading upto what happened but I’d be open for his return as long as he has substantial funds to take us to where we belong and keep us there going for honours.
I personally think Tan’s time is up and has taken us as far as he can so it really is time for him to let go.
I guess we’ll see what happens soon enough.
I just want the best for the club I love :ayatollah:

100 percent agree with all of this, exactly how I feel. I wonder how many others feel this way. :bluebird:

Re: If Sam came back hopefully he gets fair treatment

Thu Dec 08, 2022 8:26 am

Ponty Bluebird wrote:I’m not a Tan hater neither am I a Tan lover, the same goes for Sam. I loved the Sam years until the months leading upto what happened but I’d be open for his return as long as he has substantial funds to take us to where we belong and keep us there going for honours.
I personally think Tan’s time is up and has taken us as far as he can so it really is time for him to let go.
I guess we’ll see what happens soon enough.
I just want the best for the club I love :ayatollah:

I think its time for fresh ownership new ideas but not sure sam is the answer tho .

Re: If Sam came back hopefully he gets fair treatment

Thu Dec 08, 2022 8:49 am

Like I've said in previous threads as long as the new owner is right for us and can do what's right for the club that's all that matters. We've been spoilt over the last 20 odd years, we all want that to continue.
Owner's come and go but us fans are here for life.

Re: If Sam came back hopefully he gets fair treatment

Thu Dec 08, 2022 8:50 am

Although no doubt big money is required these days, I can’t see us ever competing with the big boys unless we get a massive Newcastle type investor…so no point thinking about that. To keep a club in the PL mid table ish requires cash but also some football knowledge, something the current board and Tan clearly don’t have. Maybe he’s finally getting there and investing in youth / academy etc but Sam was always for this, you won’t see Tan or Dalman travelling to reserve games or watching the kids play on a wet Tuesday night somewhere…Sam did all the time didn’t he? Sure it went wrong at the end but he did a lot right and in my opinion was done by the taffia aswell as running low of funds as football costs began to spiral. Whatever happens Tan has lost interest and maybe after 10 difficult years I’m not surprised….. :bluescarf:

Re: If Sam came back hopefully he gets fair treatment

Thu Dec 08, 2022 8:59 am

maccydee wrote:I know it’s an if but I hope that if Sam does take this club over we unite and give him a chance.

By his own admission there were mistakes made in his last run and he’s the type of guy who will be desperate to put that right. Nobody can deny what he did for us and any Cardiff fan older than 30 will have fond memories of the start of his tenure. He run out of money and was treated shabbily by others who didn’t have the best interests of the club at the forefront of their mind and cared more about their own wealth.

We were really on the verge of something special after the playoff final v QPR and if we had managed to get into the premier league at that time I think we would have really pushed on with a really good, young squad made up of players we could identify with. We can’t deny the club was rocking.

Tan has been good for the club and I won’t say differently. However, he has clearly lost interest. If Sam does buy us he should be afforded the respect he deserves for what he did and what he could do for us. Quite frankly it’s respect Tan has never been given by some but I am a cardiff fan first and foremost and anything that could improve my club will be given my maximum support.


I don't think Sam would be prepared to meet the asking price, so until he can it's just a pipe dream.

Re: If Sam came back hopefully he gets fair treatment

Thu Dec 08, 2022 9:05 am

Bluebina wrote:
maccydee wrote:I know it’s an if but I hope that if Sam does take this club over we unite and give him a chance.

By his own admission there were mistakes made in his last run and he’s the type of guy who will be desperate to put that right. Nobody can deny what he did for us and any Cardiff fan older than 30 will have fond memories of the start of his tenure. He run out of money and was treated shabbily by others who didn’t have the best interests of the club at the forefront of their mind and cared more about their own wealth.

We were really on the verge of something special after the playoff final v QPR and if we had managed to get into the premier league at that time I think we would have really pushed on with a really good, young squad made up of players we could identify with. We can’t deny the club was rocking.

Tan has been good for the club and I won’t say differently. However, he has clearly lost interest. If Sam does buy us he should be afforded the respect he deserves for what he did and what he could do for us. Quite frankly it’s respect Tan has never been given by some but I am a cardiff fan first and foremost and anything that could improve my club will be given my maximum support.


I don't think Sam would be prepared to meet the asking price, so until he can it's just a pipe dream.


If he did, he would be welcomed back by the majority, but of course, would be untrusted and disliked by some because of the Riddlers tricks and the Rugby Boys' carve up of the retail space around the ground.

Re: If Sam came back hopefully he gets fair treatment

Thu Dec 08, 2022 9:16 am

Forever Blue wrote:
Abergavenny wrote:
Forever Blue wrote:
pembroke allan wrote:
Forever Blue wrote:As you Pembroke Allan seem to be the most hatred to Sam on this thread?

These are just for you.

Honest answers please and Cardiff City is all that matters to me in this as that’s who I care about.



We’re you supporting City before Sam’s days?
If so tell Exactly how we were doing then, crowds, league, ground , squad value , Accademy ,debt etc etc?
How come no one was interested in us back then?


So please tell Me where we were in the league and what league when Sam left ? Crowds ? Stadium, future plans? Debt, squad value etc?
Was our profile bigger? Did you welcome Sam and did you ever sing his name etc?


Did you enjoy the promotions?
Did we ever get relegated under Sam?


Sam made mistakes, he accepts and now has the money to take us forward and was virtually at every game home and away including under 21’s , under 12’s etc, does that not show that he actually cared for our club.

Sam was never ever going to put us under, that I know for a fact, not media bullshit.



Let me see started 1970 so seen the lot including 40 fans at blackburn southend ect .... did I enjoy promotions mmm to ill so missed 1st one 2nd one was an experience most fans wanted I enjoyed the games like most..... did I sing for sam like fck I did nor did I for any of the owners we've had since 1970? Not sure what your trying to prove? you know my views on sh it hasn't changed and won't ... sh is like any owner of a club they're suppose to be custodians of the club and nearly all have made mistakes In one way or another.... as for loving club he had a funny way of showing it lying about Langston just like he did to other club no matter what you say I still believe he had designs in doing what he did to the other club? ( should try reading about it) Even you got to admit the similarities are there to see.. if he wouldnt let club go under why was tax man continuously at the door and the other financial matters selling players ect? as owner it was his responsibility to pay them and others? If he did tan wouldn't be here now! I dont hate tan dont hate sh I just dont want him near the club again tan as made club a circus so did sh all be it in different way... I want tan gone but also want clean broom not ex owner with the baggage and divisiveness he will bring to fans no matter how much money he as... does that answer you questions? Because I've certainly made it clear in the thread why I don't want him here. And I am not alone am I?
:thumbup:



Your in the minority
Just answer the simple questions Allan, not your life story???




We’re you supporting City before Sam’s days?
If so tell Exactly how we were doing then, crowds, league, ground , squad value , Accademy ,debt etc etc?
How come no one was interested in us back then?


So please tell Me where we were in the league and what league when Sam left ? Crowds ? Stadium, future plans? Debt, squad value etc?
Was our profile bigger? Did you welcome Sam and did you ever sing his name etc?


Did you enjoy the promotions?
Did we ever get relegated under Sam?


Sam made mistakes, he accepts and now has the money to take us forward and was virtually at every game home and away including under 21’s , under 12’s etc, does that not show that he actually cared for our club.

Sam was never ever going to put us under, that I know for a fact, not media bullshit.


Annis you have said many times that Sam was at the academy games most weeks
My son was at the academy for 5 years So training 3 days a week and games on Sundays for all age groups under the age of 16 I never saw him once on a Sunday in those 5 years pr see him down the Vale when training g indoor or Treforest All i can say he must have turned up each time my sons age group played away
I was at every game for those 5 years from under 9 to under 14



Well, i can tell you now he was and I attended with him myself and many many fans also seen him,Sam was obsessed wiyth our youth and the proof was there with how many came through.
I even went to places like Colchester with Sam to watch our youth.

Sam would attend the all the Saturday youth games before City's main home game on Saturdays.
Everyone at the club saw him and many many fans also.



So i have to say you really are talking Bollocks making out its a lie, because i saw it myself on many occasions and others did.


I have a good mate whose boy was with the academy right through to 16, he definitely says, Sam was superb with the academy and it was well funded, he took it from nothing to a decent standard. He has nothing but praise for Sam in this aspect, was it on Sam's watch that we had Matt Crocker?

Re: If Sam came back hopefully he gets fair treatment

Thu Dec 08, 2022 9:35 am

Bluebina wrote:
Forever Blue wrote:
Abergavenny wrote:
Forever Blue wrote:
pembroke allan wrote:
Forever Blue wrote:As you Pembroke Allan seem to be the most hatred to Sam on this thread?

These are just for you.

Honest answers please and Cardiff City is all that matters to me in this as that’s who I care about.



We’re you supporting City before Sam’s days?
If so tell Exactly how we were doing then, crowds, league, ground , squad value , Accademy ,debt etc etc?
How come no one was interested in us back then?


So please tell Me where we were in the league and what league when Sam left ? Crowds ? Stadium, future plans? Debt, squad value etc?
Was our profile bigger? Did you welcome Sam and did you ever sing his name etc?


Did you enjoy the promotions?
Did we ever get relegated under Sam?


Sam made mistakes, he accepts and now has the money to take us forward and was virtually at every game home and away including under 21’s , under 12’s etc, does that not show that he actually cared for our club.

Sam was never ever going to put us under, that I know for a fact, not media bullshit.



Let me see started 1970 so seen the lot including 40 fans at blackburn southend ect .... did I enjoy promotions mmm to ill so missed 1st one 2nd one was an experience most fans wanted I enjoyed the games like most..... did I sing for sam like fck I did nor did I for any of the owners we've had since 1970? Not sure what your trying to prove? you know my views on sh it hasn't changed and won't ... sh is like any owner of a club they're suppose to be custodians of the club and nearly all have made mistakes In one way or another.... as for loving club he had a funny way of showing it lying about Langston just like he did to other club no matter what you say I still believe he had designs in doing what he did to the other club? ( should try reading about it) Even you got to admit the similarities are there to see.. if he wouldnt let club go under why was tax man continuously at the door and the other financial matters selling players ect? as owner it was his responsibility to pay them and others? If he did tan wouldn't be here now! I dont hate tan dont hate sh I just dont want him near the club again tan as made club a circus so did sh all be it in different way... I want tan gone but also want clean broom not ex owner with the baggage and divisiveness he will bring to fans no matter how much money he as... does that answer you questions? Because I've certainly made it clear in the thread why I don't want him here. And I am not alone am I?
:thumbup:



Your in the minority
Just answer the simple questions Allan, not your life story???




We’re you supporting City before Sam’s days?
If so tell Exactly how we were doing then, crowds, league, ground , squad value , Accademy ,debt etc etc?
How come no one was interested in us back then?


So please tell Me where we were in the league and what league when Sam left ? Crowds ? Stadium, future plans? Debt, squad value etc?
Was our profile bigger? Did you welcome Sam and did you ever sing his name etc?


Did you enjoy the promotions?
Did we ever get relegated under Sam?


Sam made mistakes, he accepts and now has the money to take us forward and was virtually at every game home and away including under 21’s , under 12’s etc, does that not show that he actually cared for our club.

Sam was never ever going to put us under, that I know for a fact, not media bullshit.


Annis you have said many times that Sam was at the academy games most weeks
My son was at the academy for 5 years So training 3 days a week and games on Sundays for all age groups under the age of 16 I never saw him once on a Sunday in those 5 years pr see him down the Vale when training g indoor or Treforest All i can say he must have turned up each time my sons age group played away
I was at every game for those 5 years from under 9 to under 14



Well, i can tell you now he was and I attended with him myself and many many fans also seen him,Sam was obsessed wiyth our youth and the proof was there with how many came through.
I even went to places like Colchester with Sam to watch our youth.

Sam would attend the all the Saturday youth games before City's main home game on Saturdays.
Everyone at the club saw him and many many fans also.



So i have to say you really are talking Bollocks making out its a lie, because i saw it myself on many occasions and others did.


I have a good mate whose boy was with the academy right through to 16, he definitely says, Sam was superb with the academy and it was well funded, he took it from nothing to a decent standard. He has nothing but praise for Sam in this aspect, was it on Sam's watch that we had Matt Crocker?





Mark,

Sam was obsessed with our Accademy and turned up everywhere and invested big time.
There are certain fans on here who want to beat Sam with anything abd won’t give him any applause for anything he achieved for Cardiff.