‘ Drakeford overeaction to omnicom strain ‘

The Blokes a complete merchant banker just like all our bought and paid for politicians.

They are destroying the west its all been planned.

If you're such the politician, go stand against them and put your money where you're mouth is. You wouldn't HAVE to take a single dirty dollar in wages; you could donate it to a worthy (in yoyr eyes) cause as a gesture of defiance to 'being bought'

That's not meant to appear disrespectful but all we read from you is anti-establishmentism with nothing of note to back your supposed (real or not) ideals up

It's all planned, my backside; Covid caught the world out big-time and is taking some adjusting to

Of course, we could always revert to the neanderthal spirit of 'survival of the fittest' and let the weak die, so long as the 'weak' person(s) are not us personally or someone we love, eh?

That is not/should not be what a so called 'civilised' society should be about

The Blokes a complete merchant banker just like all our bought and paid for politicians.

They are destroying the west its all been planned.

If you're such the politician, go stand against them and put your money where you're mouth is. You wouldn't HAVE to take a single dirty dollar in wages; you could donate it to a worthy (in yoyr eyes) cause as a gesture of defiance to 'being bought'

That's not meant to appear disrespectful but all we read from you is anti-establishmentism with nothing of note to back your supposed (real or not) ideals up

It's all planned, my backside; Covid caught the world out big-time and is taking some adjusting to

Of course, we could always revert to the neanderthal spirit of 'survival of the fittest' and let the weak die, so long as the 'weak' person(s) are not us personally or someone we love, eh?

That is not/should not be what a so called 'civilised' society should be about

Since you got such a complete understanding of situation, the COVID infection stemmed from eating bats, tell all the readers about it. What kind of bat was it. Merry xmas to you Sven

The Blokes a complete merchant banker just like all our bought and paid for politicians.

They are destroying the west its all been planned.

If you're such the politician, go stand against them and put your money where you're mouth is. You wouldn't HAVE to take a single dirty dollar in wages; you could donate it to a worthy (in yoyr eyes) cause as a gesture of defiance to 'being bought'

That's not meant to appear disrespectful but all we read from you is anti-establishmentism with nothing of note to back your supposed (real or not) ideals up

It's all planned, my backside; Covid caught the world out big-time and is taking some adjusting to

Of course, we could always revert to the neanderthal spirit of 'survival of the fittest' and let the weak die, so long as the 'weak' person(s) are not us personally or someone we love, eh?

That is not/should not be what a so called 'civilised' society should be about

Since you got such a complete understanding of situation, the COVID infection stemmed from eating bats, tell all the readers about it. What kind of bat was it. Merry xmas to you Sven

So they say (the bats) but I fail to see what that has to do with my post. Nice to see you back on form though...

Merry Christmas to you and yours, ThomasC

The Blokes a complete merchant banker just like all our bought and paid for politicians.

They are destroying the west its all been planned.

If you're such the politician, go stand against them and put your money where you're mouth is. You wouldn't HAVE to take a single dirty dollar in wages; you could donate it to a worthy (in yoyr eyes) cause as a gesture of defiance to 'being bought'

That's not meant to appear disrespectful but all we read from you is anti-establishmentism with nothing of note to back your supposed (real or not) ideals up

It's all planned, my backside; Covid caught the world out big-time and is taking some adjusting to

Of course, we could always revert to the neanderthal spirit of 'survival of the fittest' and let the weak die, so long as the 'weak' person(s) are not us personally or someone we love, eh?

That is not/should not be what a so called 'civilised' society should be about

Since you got such a complete understanding of situation, the COVID infection stemmed from eating bats, tell all the readers about it. What kind of bat was it. Merry xmas to you Sven

So they say (the bats) but I fail to see what that has to do with my post. Nice to see you back on form though...

Merry Christmas to you and yours, ThomasC

If you can’t be sure the virus’ passing to human came from a boiled bat wing, we have to be careful to make our mind’s up upon what comes after. That’s my view anyway. Thanks for the wishes and enjoy Xmas

These are two of several articles in the national paper -he’s been found out as a chancer, an incompetent, an embarrassment and a danger to Wales - but we knew that anyway but people on the other side of the Bridge think so as well.
He should resign instantly
https://www.telegraph.co.uk/opinion/202 ... es-absurd/
https://www.telegraph.co.uk/politics/20 ... ere-delta/

Resign!! He’s making a nice living fleecing the public here, playing Welsh Labours Diane Abbott.

I must say i have just listened to a very interesting article on omicron! They are saying it is more transmissible than the common cold, incubation is just 2 days,as opposed to 5 for the delta strain, symtoms are almost identical to a cold, runny nose, headache & sore throat!! Evem said that if you think you may have a cold, therecis a 50% chance you have omicron!
But now the better news! Total period of infection is between 3/5 days,infected people could test after 3 days and be negative again! Re infections are likely to be very low in comparison to delta too, and the real piece of good news is, those who get it, and there is now a 1 in 2 chance of that, will most likely build up natural anti bodies against it.
I must say with half he to go to the big day, im going to sleep a lot better after hearing that! This was a study conducted over the last week,here& in conjunction with africa.so is a very recent one.
Hospital cases are rising, but people are also leaving quicker too.a total of 349 icu beds occupied in uk at present, others just recieving oxygen support.

MERRY CHRISTMAS EVERYBODY.

I must say i have just listened to a very interesting article on omicron! They are saying it is more transmissible than the common cold, incubation is just 2 days,as opposed to 5 for the delta strain, symtoms are almost identical to a cold, runny nose, headache & sore throat!! Evem said that if you think you may have a cold, therecis a 50% chance you have omicron!
But now the better news! Total period of infection is between 3/5 days,infected people could test after 3 days and be negative again! Re infections are likely to be very low in comparison to delta too, and the real piece of good news is, those who get it, and there is now a 1 in 2 chance of that, will most likely build up natural anti bodies against it.
I must say with half he to go to the big day, im going to sleep a lot better after hearing that! This was a study conducted over the last week,here& in conjunction with africa.so is a very recent one.
Hospital cases are rising, but people are also leaving quicker too.a total of 349 icu beds occupied in uk at present, others just recieving oxygen support.

MERRY CHRISTMAS EVERYBODY.

So maybe we were correct to wait?
Maybe best to not panic?

Best of all, as you correctly point out with all the stats, If we actually invented a variant, to be endemic, produce antibodies in most, as some would call herd immunity... this is the perfect variant. Highly transmissible but very likely mild... thank you Blue62, merry Christmas. Fear mongerers sleep well.

Is' nt typical we heard and saw mark drakeford go from a 3 week teview to a week faily hourly till he got ehay he wanted in place within a week nobody seems to be available to comment on when he is going to appear or make a statment on lifting the restrictions as soon as
Imo there seems to be nobody really arguing against him and pinning him down on the evidence he said he would produce shortly after his last showing on tv that the omicron was just as bad as delta silence is deafening from drakeford bit of dalhman in him but are we to go all the way till new year with his restrictions until he pops up on his podium again looking like he is kneading bread with his hand shuffling
Also whats the difference between a packed church service people sitting next to each other and singing and a footie crowd doing the same
Drakeford mentioned weddings and funerals with a limit but who is monitoring people attending general church services friday prayers etc seems to be a lot more people than what should be from what i' ve seen.

Is' nt typical we heard and saw mark drakeford go from a 3 week teview to a week faily hourly till he got ehay he wanted in place within a week nobody seems to be available to comment on when he is going to appear or make a statment on lifting the restrictions as soon as
Imo there seems to be nobody really arguing against him and pinning him down on the evidence he said he would produce shortly after his last showing on tv that the omicron was just as bad as delta silence is deafening from drakeford bit of dalhman in him but are we to go all the way till new year with his restrictions until he pops up on his podium again looking like he is kneading bread with his hand shuffling
Also whats the difference between a packed church service people sitting next to each other and singing and a footie crowd doing the same
Drakeford mentioned weddings and funerals with a limit but who is monitoring people attending general church services friday prayers etc seems to be a lot more people than what should be from what i' ve seen.

I have a church 300m from my house, and this morning the road was heaving with parked cars, all going to service, at least 30 cars& a couple of mini busses! The church os only s small one, it must be standing room only! So for me, no real difference at all.

BLUESINCE 62
I know the rules change so often and today the new rules kick in but it seems nothing has changed on the numbers front since midnight mass the church goers will not be able to pile in together for a sunday lunch in the pub though silly rule of 6 my local won't even open with 2 metre distance you' d only get about 4 in
one in each corner of the pub and waiting service would be laughable.
I notice only 1 metre required in scotland and everthing open boxing day rules don' t start till tomorrow.

As the original poster of this thread a few days ago,.. i have repeated my point daily that Drakeford has completely overreacted to the new strain..as the days go in it becomes more & more apparent from the evidence of ALL studies that it is far far less serious than any other varient..as ive said previous its similar to the common cold (as the south african health ministry told us with the benefit of being able to analyze the thousands of cases they had already of the new omnicron variant)
Drakeford choose to ignore their findings and once again imposed huge restrictions on our personal freedoms & liberties.."just in case the south africans were wrong"
I understand others will have completely opposing views and indeed one poster mentioned the other 9 European countries that have imposed similar restrictions to Drakeford so " he cant really be singled out"..i would says ok but what about the other European countries that havent overreacted like Drakeford...the politicians decide; some make the right call others dont.
One poster mentioned all i care about is not being able to attend a football match...the whole thing goes far far deeper than this.. its restrictions on our whole way of life we can only do what the state permits us to do and nothing else..and dont even start on the impact this is having on our kids/schools the future of our country.
As ive said previously we are going to have to live with covid & all its many srains which will inevitably develop for many years to come its not going to go away..
If you look at the death rate for this new variant then its actually less than for the flu in a bad year...every year there 20k plus deaths from flu & significantly more in a bad year but we live with the flu..with vaccines for the vulnerable and society carries on as normal..similarly we are going to have to live with covid in the same way now and for many years to come.
As ive said in the title Drakeford is overreacting

he’s taken away our freedoms disregarding the fact many have had boosters despite the fact omicron is allegedly only of a cold strength. pathetic- destroying businesses and effecting mental health
continues to deny an enquiry into his and gethin handling of the original covid crisis. in his words an enquiry into the governments handling is sufficient yet he often criticised boris.