“ After 11 Years “

Most of these so called facts have already been addressed by multiple posters in this thread and shown to be hearsay, inaccurate or biased opinion not fact as stated.

There are two ways at looking at everything that has happened at this club and it all depends on your opinion of the owner and his one mistake regarding the rebrand.
Some people can't forgive so try and make him look bad saying things like we've had 10 managers when in reality its 6 full time unless you count the stand ins like kerslake , Gabbidon and Young along with Jones who was already here before Tan came.

No point going over the same ground with people who can't forgive someone for a mistake. Its pointless. Better to just let the minority have there little bash at the board whilst the majority supports what they are now doing to make up for it and have done for the last five years

Or perhaps its because we were primed for Premier football as a club before Tan came but now it looks like we are going to be mid table Championship level if we are lucky. Rebrand or no rebrand but the fact here is we are going backwards.

Were we really primed ?

Who was going to pay the money for the players to push us over the line ?

Who was going to pay the tax bill ?

Who was going to pay the players wages ?

Why were we selling out best players ?

Doesn't sound like a club primed for the premier league to me, it sounds like a club who were badly run and gambling the clubs future on promotion which never came.

Luckily tan saved us and sorted the finances out before the club folded

We won't be mid table tan will clear out the rubbish like last time and take us up again

Most of these so called facts have already been addressed by multiple posters in this thread and shown to be hearsay, inaccurate or biased opinion not fact as stated.

There are two ways at looking at everything that has happened at this club and it all depends on your opinion of the owner and his one mistake regarding the rebrand.
Some people can't forgive so try and make him look bad saying things like we've had 10 managers when in reality its 6 full time unless you count the stand ins like kerslake , Gabbidon and Young along with Jones who was already here before Tan came.

No point going over the same ground with people who can't forgive someone for a mistake. Its pointless. Better to just let the minority have there little bash at the board whilst the majority supports what they are now doing to make up for it and have done for the last five years

Or perhaps its because we were primed for Premier football as a club before Tan came but now it looks like we are going to be mid table Championship level if we are lucky. Rebrand or no rebrand but the fact here is we are going backwards.

Were we really primed ?

Who was going to pay the money for the players to push us over the line ?

Who was going to pay the tax bill ?

Who was going to pay the players wages ?

Why were we selling out best players ?

Doesn't sound like a club primed for the premier league to me, it sounds like a club who were badly run and gambling the clubs future on promotion which never came.

Luckily tan saved us and sorted the finances out before the club folded

We won't be mid table tan will clear out the rubbish like last time and take us up again

Yes we were primed. You only have to look at the squad we had like the previous seasons best premier played Bellamy. our strike force was the envy of all other clubs in the league with such players as Bothroyd and Chopra. This is why Tan took interest in us.

Unfortunately DJ blew the best chance we are ever had of becoming an established Premier club. Although we have had 2 stabs at the Premier since DJ was sacked, I did not see anything to say we were determined to make an effort to stay there. Best I will say is it was wishful thinking. For me when the Acorn became an obvious mistake Tan was not willing to correct the position. You need an owner who is willing to do that if you want to move forward.

As for the future I cant see Tan doing what you say. With no more parachute payments I can see us off loading more players leaving us with a weak squad which at best will survive avoiding relegation. I can't see us going up but I guess we are going to have to wait to next season to see how it goes.

Most of these so called facts have already been addressed by multiple posters in this thread and shown to be hearsay, inaccurate or biased opinion not fact as stated.

There are two ways at looking at everything that has happened at this club and it all depends on your opinion of the owner and his one mistake regarding the rebrand.
Some people can't forgive so try and make him look bad saying things like we've had 10 managers when in reality its 6 full time unless you count the stand ins like kerslake , Gabbidon and Young along with Jones who was already here before Tan came.

No point going over the same ground with people who can't forgive someone for a mistake. Its pointless. Better to just let the minority have there little bash at the board whilst the majority supports what they are now doing to make up for it and have done for the last five years

Or perhaps its because we were primed for Premier football as a club before Tan came but now it looks like we are going to be mid table Championship level if we are lucky. Rebrand or no rebrand but the fact here is we are going backwards.

Were we really primed ?

Who was going to pay the money for the players to push us over the line ?

Who was going to pay the tax bill ?

Who was going to pay the players wages ?

Why were we selling out best players ?

Doesn't sound like a club primed for the premier league to me, it sounds like a club who were badly run and gambling the clubs future on promotion which never came.

Luckily tan saved us and sorted the finances out before the club folded

We won't be mid table tan will clear out the rubbish like last time and take us up again

Yes we were primed. You only have to look at the squad we had like the previous seasons best premier played Bellamy. our strike force was the envy of all other clubs in the league with such players as Bothroyd and Chopra. This is why Tan took interest in us.

Unfortunately DJ blew the best chance we are ever had of becoming an established Premier club. Although we have had 2 stabs at the Premier since DJ was sacked, I did not see anything to say we were determined to make an effort to stay there. Best I will say is it was wishful thinking. For me when the Acorn became an obvious mistake Tan was not willing to correct the position. You need an owner who is willing to do that if you want to move forward.

As for the future I cant see Tan doing what you say. With no more parachute payments I can see us off loading more players leaving us with a weak squad which at best will survive avoiding relegation. I can't see us going up but I guess we are going to have to wait to next season to see how it goes.

We have broken the clubs transfer record 34 times since tan took over , quite a few over £10 million signings. We have signed multiple international players and big name loan signings. We are just as much primed to go up again now with a squad worth a hell of a lot more money than we had back 11 years ago.

The current squad this season cost over £50million to assemble, what did the Jones squad cost ?

We are in a much much better position now both on and off the pitch than we were before Tan arrived .

Our strike force of Wilson and Moore is envied aswell and most clubs would swap with us given the chance

Most of these so called facts have already been addressed by multiple posters in this thread and shown to be hearsay, inaccurate or biased opinion not fact as stated.

There are two ways at looking at everything that has happened at this club and it all depends on your opinion of the owner and his one mistake regarding the rebrand.
Some people can't forgive so try and make him look bad saying things like we've had 10 managers when in reality its 6 full time unless you count the stand ins like kerslake , Gabbidon and Young along with Jones who was already here before Tan came.

No point going over the same ground with people who can't forgive someone for a mistake. Its pointless. Better to just let the minority have there little bash at the board whilst the majority supports what they are now doing to make up for it and have done for the last five years

Or perhaps its because we were primed for Premier football as a club before Tan came but now it looks like we are going to be mid table Championship level if we are lucky. Rebrand or no rebrand but the fact here is we are going backwards.

Were we really primed ?

Who was going to pay the money for the players to push us over the line ?

Who was going to pay the tax bill ?

Who was going to pay the players wages ?

Why were we selling out best players ?

Doesn't sound like a club primed for the premier league to me, it sounds like a club who were badly run and gambling the clubs future on promotion which never came.

Luckily tan saved us and sorted the finances out before the club folded

We won't be mid table tan will clear out the rubbish like last time and take us up again

Yes we were primed. You only have to look at the squad we had like the previous seasons best premier played Bellamy. our strike force was the envy of all other clubs in the league with such players as Bothroyd and Chopra. This is why Tan took interest in us.

Unfortunately DJ blew the best chance we are ever had of becoming an established Premier club. Although we have had 2 stabs at the Premier since DJ was sacked, I did not see anything to say we were determined to make an effort to stay there. Best I will say is it was wishful thinking. For me when the Acorn became an obvious mistake Tan was not willing to correct the position. You need an owner who is willing to do that if you want to move forward.

As for the future I cant see Tan doing what you say. With no more parachute payments I can see us off loading more players leaving us with a weak squad which at best will survive avoiding relegation. I can't see us going up but I guess we are going to have to wait to next season to see how it goes.

We have broken the clubs transfer record 34 times since tan took over , quite a few over £10 million signings. We have signed multiple international players and big name loan signings. We are just as much primed to go up again now with a squad worth a hell of a lot more money than we had back 11 years ago.

The current squad this season cost over £50million to assemble, what did the Jones squad cost ?

We are in a much much better position now both on and off the pitch than we were before Tan arrived .

Our strike force of Wilson and Moore is envied aswell and most clubs would swap with us given the chance

Rubbish regarding on the pitch. We have never had a better squad than what DJ had before Tan came along. I would say that squad was better than the stuff we took into the Premier, specially the strike force. If I recall right we had a full back playing as our centre forward last time we were in the Premier.

As for off the pitch I'm struggling to see how we are better as we are £80m in debt after all those parachute payments.

Finally I'm not sure anyone envies our strike force now as basically we are considered a threat anymore.

How can anyone moan about our clubs position?

It wasn’t that long ago we were all but propping up the FL.

FCS if we got 5000 at NP for a game versus Bristol Rovers or swansea it was a huge achievement.

When I was a kid, the very thought we’d be in the top league was a dream. The closest we got was on 71. I was inconsolable after losing at home v Watford and then thrashed at Bramall Lane, and apart from the few promotions from Divs 3 & 4, until first Hamman and then Tan came along I had grown accustomed to the prospect of lower league ups and downs and the odd Cup run.

I can’t really recount the number of amazing games I’ve seen this century and seeing a stadium b full is just something I never thought I’d see

And fans are moaning at our present position.

Get real.

Do I remember those games against Watford and Sheff Utd. I also remember the crowd going quiet during half time for the Sheff Utd v Watford game where we needed Watford to beat the Blades. Sheff Utd 2 Watford 0 said the announcer and our season was over. It ended 3-0 to the Blades.

We should have gone up that season but we didn't. I watched us drop to the dungeon league in 1987 then left the country. No I didn't leave because of that but I always had the belief we would get to the top division. Sam started that belief and nearly got us there. Then Tan came along and I thought he would be the final push to get us established in the Premier. How wrong I was on that bit.

Tan is not finished yet and could still easily get us established in the premier league with another push and a bit of luck which we didn't have either time

I agree with that statement and I do wonder what his managers actually say to him when pushed, as it will be a fine balancing act to both cajole and placate him at the right time; probably the same in most manager/owner relationships

We can't say he hasn't 'backed' his managers financially and maybe in Malky and OGS we had two 'cajolers' who sold him 'the dream' better than any of the others financially?

On reflection, I can now see why he employed Russell Slade to 'steady the ship' after the two above and also why he has taken a more pragmatic approach to finances in recent seasons. To some extent it has worked and he has now 'managed' our debt down to a level where it could be wiped out at his discretion in the months to come; something most of us have yearned for

Where the 'luck' has gone for us rather than against us was in the appointment of Neil Warnock; a wily old manager, who had both the nouse and the character to balance all the factors involved in running the club, its owner, its supporters expectations and doing all that whilst building a squad spirit/performance levels that somewhat surprisingly got us to the Premier League (and the finances that come with it)

What I don't accept (not aimed at you) is that the club as a footballing entity (not business) are wholly 'better off' now than they were 11 years ago; the decline of the Academy and other youth sections, as well as the money lost on first team players leaving (rarely 'in profit') has been an apparent failing of any forward thinking strategy; which we certainly had under Sam prior to his unfortunate departure

Most of these so called facts have already been addressed by multiple posters in this thread and shown to be hearsay, inaccurate or biased opinion not fact as stated.

There are two ways at looking at everything that has happened at this club and it all depends on your opinion of the owner and his one mistake regarding the rebrand.
Some people can't forgive so try and make him look bad saying things like we've had 10 managers when in reality its 6 full time unless you count the stand ins like kerslake , Gabbidon and Young along with Jones who was already here before Tan came.

No point going over the same ground with people who can't forgive someone for a mistake. Its pointless. Better to just let the minority have there little bash at the board whilst the majority supports what they are now doing to make up for it and have done for the last five years

Or perhaps its because we were primed for Premier football as a club before Tan came but now it looks like we are going to be mid table Championship level if we are lucky. Rebrand or no rebrand but the fact here is we are going backwards.

Were we really primed ?

Who was going to pay the money for the players to push us over the line ?

Who was going to pay the tax bill ?

Who was going to pay the players wages ?

Why were we selling out best players ?

Doesn't sound like a club primed for the premier league to me, it sounds like a club who were badly run and gambling the clubs future on promotion which never came.

Luckily tan saved us and sorted the finances out before the club folded

We won't be mid table tan will clear out the rubbish like last time and take us up again

Yes we were primed. You only have to look at the squad we had like the previous seasons best premier played Bellamy. our strike force was the envy of all other clubs in the league with such players as Bothroyd and Chopra. This is why Tan took interest in us.

Unfortunately DJ blew the best chance we are ever had of becoming an established Premier club. Although we have had 2 stabs at the Premier since DJ was sacked, I did not see anything to say we were determined to make an effort to stay there. Best I will say is it was wishful thinking. For me when the Acorn became an obvious mistake Tan was not willing to correct the position. You need an owner who is willing to do that if you want to move forward.

As for the future I cant see Tan doing what you say. With no more parachute payments I can see us off loading more players leaving us with a weak squad which at best will survive avoiding relegation. I can't see us going up but I guess we are going to have to wait to next season to see how it goes.

We have broken the clubs transfer record 34 times since tan took over , quite a few over £10 million signings. We have signed multiple international players and big name loan signings. We are just as much primed to go up again now with a squad worth a hell of a lot more money than we had back 11 years ago.

The current squad this season cost over £50million to assemble, what did the Jones squad cost ?

We are in a much much better position now both on and off the pitch than we were before Tan arrived .

Our strike force of Wilson and Moore is envied aswell and most clubs would swap with us given the chance

Rubbish regarding on the pitch. We have never had a better squad than what DJ had before Tan came along. I would say that squad was better than the stuff we took into the Premier, specially the strike force. If I recall right we had a full back playing as our centre forward last time we were in the Premier.

As for off the pitch I'm struggling to see how we are better as we are £80m in debt after all those parachute payments.

Finally I'm not sure anyone envies our strike force now as basically we are considered a threat anymore.

That Dave Jones squad was decent at the time and level but failed to be successful.

I struggle to name one of that squad who would get in our premier league teams. They were all good championship players at best.

None of them went on to do anything special and to be honest I dont think any other than Heaton even went on to play premier league football at another club after Tan took over.

Ross Mccormack
Jay Bothroyd
Andy Keogh
Michael Chopra
Joe Ledley
Anthony Gerrard
Kelvin Etuhu
Mark Hudson
Gavin Ray
Chris Riggott
Warren Feeny
Darcy Blake
Gabor Gypes
Tony Capaldi
Adam Matthews
Kevin Mcnaughton
David Marshall


Then replace them with names like:

Victor Camarasa
Gary Medel
Frazier Campbell
Craig Bellamy
Wilfred Zaha
Harry Arter
Stephen Caulker
Sean Morrison
Sol Bamba
Bruno Manga
Fabio
Kenwyn Jones
Arron Gunnarsson
Tommy Smith

The players do not even compare in terms of quality no matter how fond of them we were.

Everyone was over the moon because we had a England International when Boothroyd played once. We have come accustom to having major international players at our club now

Most of these so called facts have already been addressed by multiple posters in this thread and shown to be hearsay, inaccurate or biased opinion not fact as stated.

There are two ways at looking at everything that has happened at this club and it all depends on your opinion of the owner and his one mistake regarding the rebrand.
Some people can't forgive so try and make him look bad saying things like we've had 10 managers when in reality its 6 full time unless you count the stand ins like kerslake , Gabbidon and Young along with Jones who was already here before Tan came.

No point going over the same ground with people who can't forgive someone for a mistake. Its pointless. Better to just let the minority have there little bash at the board whilst the majority supports what they are now doing to make up for it and have done for the last five years

Or perhaps its because we were primed for Premier football as a club before Tan came but now it looks like we are going to be mid table Championship level if we are lucky. Rebrand or no rebrand but the fact here is we are going backwards.

Were we really primed ?

Who was going to pay the money for the players to push us over the line ?

Who was going to pay the tax bill ?

Who was going to pay the players wages ?

Why were we selling out best players ?

Doesn't sound like a club primed for the premier league to me, it sounds like a club who were badly run and gambling the clubs future on promotion which never came.

Luckily tan saved us and sorted the finances out before the club folded

We won't be mid table tan will clear out the rubbish like last time and take us up again

Yes we were primed. You only have to look at the squad we had like the previous seasons best premier played Bellamy. our strike force was the envy of all other clubs in the league with such players as Bothroyd and Chopra. This is why Tan took interest in us.

Unfortunately DJ blew the best chance we are ever had of becoming an established Premier club. Although we have had 2 stabs at the Premier since DJ was sacked, I did not see anything to say we were determined to make an effort to stay there. Best I will say is it was wishful thinking. For me when the Acorn became an obvious mistake Tan was not willing to correct the position. You need an owner who is willing to do that if you want to move forward.

As for the future I cant see Tan doing what you say. With no more parachute payments I can see us off loading more players leaving us with a weak squad which at best will survive avoiding relegation. I can't see us going up but I guess we are going to have to wait to next season to see how it goes.

We have broken the clubs transfer record 34 times since tan took over , quite a few over £10 million signings. We have signed multiple international players and big name loan signings. We are just as much primed to go up again now with a squad worth a hell of a lot more money than we had back 11 years ago.

The current squad this season cost over £50million to assemble, what did the Jones squad cost ?

We are in a much much better position now both on and off the pitch than we were before Tan arrived .

Our strike force of Wilson and Moore is envied aswell and most clubs would swap with us given the chance

Rubbish regarding on the pitch. We have never had a better squad than what DJ had before Tan came along. I would say that squad was better than the stuff we took into the Premier, specially the strike force. If I recall right we had a full back playing as our centre forward last time we were in the Premier.

As for off the pitch I'm struggling to see how we are better as we are £80m in debt after all those parachute payments.

Finally I'm not sure anyone envies our strike force now as basically we are considered a threat anymore.

That Dave Jones squad was decent at the time and level but failed to be successful.

I struggle to name one of that squad who would get in our premier league teams. They were all good championship players at best.

None of them went on to do anything special and to be honest I dont think any other than Heaton even went on to play premier league football at another club after Tan took over.

Ross Mccormack
Jay Bothroyd
Andy Keogh
Michael Chopra
Joe Ledley
Anthony Gerrard
Kelvin Etuhu
Mark Hudson
Gavin Ray
Chris Riggott
Warren Feeny
Darcy Blake
Gabor Gypes
Tony Capaldi
Adam Matthews
Kevin Mcnaughton
David Marshall


Then replace them with names like:

Victor Camarasa
Gary Medel
Frazier Campbell
Craig Bellamy
Wilfred Zaha
Harry Arter
Stephen Caulker
Sean Morrison
Sol Bamba
Bruno Manga
Fabio
Kenwyn Jones
Arron Gunnarsson
Tommy Smith

The players do not even compare in terms of quality no matter how fond of them we were.

Everyone was over the moon because we had a England International when Boothroyd played once. We have come accustom to having major international players at our club now

Major international players

Most of these so called facts have already been addressed by multiple posters in this thread and shown to be hearsay, inaccurate or biased opinion not fact as stated.

There are two ways at looking at everything that has happened at this club and it all depends on your opinion of the owner and his one mistake regarding the rebrand.
Some people can't forgive so try and make him look bad saying things like we've had 10 managers when in reality its 6 full time unless you count the stand ins like kerslake , Gabbidon and Young along with Jones who was already here before Tan came.

No point going over the same ground with people who can't forgive someone for a mistake. Its pointless. Better to just let the minority have there little bash at the board whilst the majority supports what they are now doing to make up for it and have done for the last five years

Or perhaps its because we were primed for Premier football as a club before Tan came but now it looks like we are going to be mid table Championship level if we are lucky. Rebrand or no rebrand but the fact here is we are going backwards.

Were we really primed ?

Who was going to pay the money for the players to push us over the line ?

Who was going to pay the tax bill ?

Who was going to pay the players wages ?

Why were we selling out best players ?

Doesn't sound like a club primed for the premier league to me, it sounds like a club who were badly run and gambling the clubs future on promotion which never came.

Luckily tan saved us and sorted the finances out before the club folded

We won't be mid table tan will clear out the rubbish like last time and take us up again

Yes we were primed. You only have to look at the squad we had like the previous seasons best premier played Bellamy. our strike force was the envy of all other clubs in the league with such players as Bothroyd and Chopra. This is why Tan took interest in us.

Unfortunately DJ blew the best chance we are ever had of becoming an established Premier club. Although we have had 2 stabs at the Premier since DJ was sacked, I did not see anything to say we were determined to make an effort to stay there. Best I will say is it was wishful thinking. For me when the Acorn became an obvious mistake Tan was not willing to correct the position. You need an owner who is willing to do that if you want to move forward.

As for the future I cant see Tan doing what you say. With no more parachute payments I can see us off loading more players leaving us with a weak squad which at best will survive avoiding relegation. I can't see us going up but I guess we are going to have to wait to next season to see how it goes.

We have broken the clubs transfer record 34 times since tan took over , quite a few over £10 million signings. We have signed multiple international players and big name loan signings. We are just as much primed to go up again now with a squad worth a hell of a lot more money than we had back 11 years ago.

The current squad this season cost over £50million to assemble, what did the Jones squad cost ?

We are in a much much better position now both on and off the pitch than we were before Tan arrived .

Our strike force of Wilson and Moore is envied aswell and most clubs would swap with us given the chance

Rubbish regarding on the pitch. We have never had a better squad than what DJ had before Tan came along. I would say that squad was better than the stuff we took into the Premier, specially the strike force. If I recall right we had a full back playing as our centre forward last time we were in the Premier.

As for off the pitch I'm struggling to see how we are better as we are £80m in debt after all those parachute payments.

Finally I'm not sure anyone envies our strike force now as basically we are considered a threat anymore.

That Dave Jones squad was decent at the time and level but failed to be successful.

I struggle to name one of that squad who would get in our premier league teams. They were all good championship players at best.

None of them went on to do anything special and to be honest I dont think any other than Heaton even went on to play premier league football at another club after Tan took over.

Ross Mccormack
Jay Bothroyd
Andy Keogh
Michael Chopra
Joe Ledley
Anthony Gerrard
Kelvin Etuhu
Mark Hudson
Gavin Ray
Chris Riggott
Warren Feeny
Darcy Blake
Gabor Gypes
Tony Capaldi
Adam Matthews
Kevin Mcnaughton
David Marshall


Then replace them with names like:

Victor Camarasa
Gary Medel
Frazier Campbell
Craig Bellamy
Wilfred Zaha
Harry Arter
Stephen Caulker
Sean Morrison
Sol Bamba
Bruno Manga
Fabio
Kenwyn Jones
Arron Gunnarsson
Tommy Smith

The players do not even compare in terms of quality no matter how fond of them we were.

Everyone was over the moon because we had a England International when Boothroyd played once. We have come accustom to having major international players at our club now

Major international players

Well captain of Chili at the world cup would certainly count

So would captain of Iceland in a major final getting to the Later stages and beating England

How about a Spanish international midfider ?

£40 million English International Winger ?

£30million welsh International winger ?

A Brazilian international full back ?

How about a English international defender ?

Or two of African footballs biggest names in Manga and Bamba ?

How many internationals were in the old city squad other than a couple of standard Scots ?

I could keep going but I think the point hS been proven well enough as the quality of each squad is totally incomparable

I'll give you Medley but that is it.

None f the rest have set the world on fire on the International scene lets be honest here so I would not call them Majors.

I'll give you Medley but that is it.

None f the rest have set the world on fire on the International scene lets be honest here so I would not call them Majors.

Personally I would call Chili , Spain , England and Brazil pretty major teams. But I guess it depends on what point is trying to be made regarding them .

Bluebirds your missing the point we are going backwards now and no future with this lot, we need owners who care and want to be involved and football men, I don’t believe there is no one out there .
The board don’t give a shit and had already said before Covid no money available, weeks before Covid ever happened.

The facts are that Tan’s 11years have been our most successful since the 1920’s and certainly in my 60 years supporting our club! Yet some of our supporters continue to criticise him, all I can say to them is if they know a Billionaire who wants to buy us and waste millions please contact Mr Tan as I’m sure he will sell? But history has taught us that the grass is not always greener!

false success mate, never lasted long and never enjoyed it due to the politics and our soul ripped out

What in the world does "false success" even mean, please elaborate.

Blue to red so wasn't the true Cardiff city.play off / cup finals but lost the lot. Tan has achieved nothing in common with every owner we've had as far back as the mid 50s when we had a few seasons in the top flight.

Well that makes perfect sense

Did I dream being in the premier league in blue?

Let's go back to the old 3rd division days is it? At least we won't have Tan screwing things up.

Without him thats exactly where we would be now or worse.

Vincent tan has achieved pretty much everything every supporter of this club has ever dreamed of and thought impossible 10 years ago.

that for sure I never dreamed the club I supported since 1975 the bluebirds would suddenly appear in red with a red dragon for a badge .

Did you dream they would play in the premier league in a blue kit with a bluebird on the badge?

Did you dream of multi million pound signings every season ?

Did you dream of cup finals ?

Did you dream of play off contention?

Did you dream of big name managers?

Did you dream of financial security?

Did you dream of some of the best and biggest name Welsh international players pulling on a city shirt

Did you dream about international world class players like Medel and Camarasa coming to play for us ?

All these things made possible by Vincent Tan . All anyone ever remembers is his one misjudgement which is massive unfair he has made up for that time and time again and continues to do so

I will answer that in one sentence “ I would rather have kept our identity and our proper badge” than have any false glory.

As to Finals etc we were already at Wembley before Tan arrived that’s exactly why he joined us.

As to the Premier League, I hated our first promotion and I hated it up there , a total disaster.

We had No pride or identity.

The rebrand was awful for everybody and he was massively misadvised on that subject by whoever was responsible at the time. He listened to the fans and changed it back and has kept to his word ever since even backing us a second time massively to get back up and play in Blue.

But there has to come a time where he is forgiven for his one mistake

Also I believe Tan was our owner when Malkey took us to Wembley for the league Cup final so yes he has taken us to finals.

Thomas, 4 yrs is not a mistake our demonstrations got bigger and bigger embarrassing for him and his Malaysian Govt, I contacted the only paper who does not control the Star and they said how he had hurt a country called Wales with a club called Cardiff abd many Malaysians were fuming.
I had a 3 hr private meeting with him and he was not sorry at all.

We were the laughing stock of the world from here to America.

And he still has that despicable worm on our badge.


You don’t realise how much I really know and that’s why I won’t forgive.

The rebrand was certainly a mistake but it’s long gone. Tan apologised and recognised he was wrong. Some people think he deserves capital punishment but they’re just bitter. We’ve all moved on in our lives since then. The world has changed yet he’s still continued to bank roll our club and given us opportunities we could only have dreamt of previously.

That said, he’s still made mistakes and has been imperfect. I’d certainly be up for another progressive, well informed, ambitious and stinkingly rich Saudi/foreign owner but, let’s face it, the chances are we’re highly unlikely to get that next time around. Sometimes you’ve got to recognise what you’ve got rather than go through a process of self harm. I’d like to know who the OP thinks is the best owner we’ve had? Bar his mate Sam who left us in the most worrying state imaginable before TG originally sort out Malaysian investment

tan has never apologised for the rebrand and if he was sincerely sorry about it he would have got rid of the red seats and would not have put a wiggly worm on our badge.

tan has never apologised for the rebrand and if he was sincerely sorry about it he would have got rid of the red seats and would not have put a wiggly worm on our badge.

Ian, correct he never has after stripping our club of our pride, identity and dividing.

The rebrand was certainly a mistake but it’s long gone. Tan apologised and recognised he was wrong. Some people think he deserves capital punishment but they’re just bitter. We’ve all moved on in our lives since then. The world has changed yet he’s still continued to bank roll our club and given us opportunities we could only have dreamt of previously.

That said, he’s still made mistakes and has been imperfect. I’d certainly be up for another progressive, well informed, ambitious and stinkingly rich Saudi/foreign owner but, let’s face it, the chances are we’re highly unlikely to get that next time around. Sometimes you’ve got to recognise what you’ve got rather than go through a process of self harm. I’d like to know who the OP thinks is the best owner we’ve had? Bar his mate Sam who left us in the most worrying state imaginable before TG originally sort out Malaysian investment

Well said.

The rebrand was certainly a mistake but it’s long gone. Tan apologised and recognised he was wrong. Some people think he deserves capital punishment but they’re just bitter. We’ve all moved on in our lives since then. The world has changed yet he’s still continued to bank roll our club and given us opportunities we could only have dreamt of previously.

That said, he’s still made mistakes and has been imperfect. I’d certainly be up for another progressive, well informed, ambitious and stinkingly rich Saudi/foreign owner but, let’s face it, the chances are we’re highly unlikely to get that next time around. Sometimes you’ve got to recognise what you’ve got rather than go through a process of self harm. I’d like to know who the OP thinks is the best owner we’ve had? Bar his mate Sam who left us in the most worrying state imaginable before TG originally sort out Malaysian investment