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Re: Well done Millwall

Sat Dec 05, 2020 9:46 pm

stickywicket wrote:That's a stadium closed and points deduction.
We had 5 black players in the squad today,
If this happened at the CCS.The black players could walk.
Our club could be in serious trouble.
I would be happy for our stadium to close and a points deduction.
All lives matter but some lives matter more than most.
Don't forgot the black shirts came from the Millwall area.Facists.Traitors in the second world war.

What a pathetic racist comment that is. All lives matter but some lives matter more. How hypocritical are you. There are many lads at Millwall who are black and against that shit

Re: Well done Millwall

Sat Dec 05, 2020 9:49 pm

THIS SAYS IT ALL AND WHAT ELSE CAN BE SAID TO SAY THIS TAKING THE KNEE IS NOT ACCEPTABLE

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Re: Well done Millwall

Sat Dec 05, 2020 10:00 pm

spikeferndale wrote:Rumpo,

Your comment the rise of the Far Left AND ENCOURAGEMENT by their leaders in attacking British Jews.

Please give me an example of this and name the perpetrators and victims.


Luciana Berger was physically threatened by a Labour Party member, reported it, and then received a letter saying she would have acid thrown over her and be stabbed and raped.

There was something in the news about this recently, involving bigotry, bullying, and intimidation within the ranks of a political party.

I'm sorry, I don't have the perpetrators names, or their addresses.

Re: Well done Millwall

Sat Dec 05, 2020 10:16 pm

spikeferndale wrote:Thank you Ealing for your response.
I am deeply touched
Best wishes
Spike

Spike,

You're very welcome, happy to have been part of your virtue signalling journey today. :thumbup:

So pleased you've hit your tick box quota, mega congrats on all the first-class self-validation you've been able to accomplish, and super chuffed that you managed to get there without any of that pesky thinking stuff along the way. Great job!

I'd also like to just to take this opportunity to wish you the very best with your ongoing endeavours in eradicating racism with fluffy rainbows and unicorn dust and congratulations on your outstanding contribution to society by saying things on a message board that sound fantastic yet manage to be completely empty of any actual critical thought.

You, Mr. Ferndale, are a model citizen, and a credit to your society - go you! :occasion5:

Finally, I must truly apologise for actually giving a f**k about the things that you, so rightly, only pay lip service to, and also apologise for having the audacity to answer the question you put to Mr Canton 104 about what a solution could actually be in eradicating racism in the UK.

I now accept it was wrong of me to suggest an actual solution in rejecting BLM and the long-established, time-honoured tradition of players doing the 'BLM' kneel at the beginning of every game, and for highlighting the merits of an alternative in those has-beens, Kick It Out. :roll:

Obviously, as you have vociferously explained (many times now, sorry, I can be a bit slow sometimes), you don't support this BLM organisation, so it makes zero sense to point out that they are actually a factor in the equation that answers the question you raised. I should, of course, have taken a leaf out of your book and just pretended they don't exist, which after reading your thoughts on the matter I can now see is a far more sensible approach to overcoming the problem. :thumbup:

This also makes it far neater all round, as we can all get on now with assuming anyone who boos players taking the knee are obviously all nasty racists. I mean now we're ignoring all that silly "BLM are Marxists" nonsense, then the only reason someone would have for booing the players taking the "BLM" knee (oops sorry old habits die hard, I mean kneeling in solidarity) is because they are racists, right? GRRR stupid booing racists :banghead:

You know you're right, this is all so much easier if we just stop thinking about it all!

You can be assured that from here on in, I'll 100% try my utmost to adopt a similar position to yourself and keep my head firmly in the sand. I'm sure we can sort all this nasty racism stuff out for good once and for all, if we just ignore why it has gotten worse and keep saying good things like "I don't care about organisations, I just want to eradicate racism."

Those are some mighty fine big words I must say! They sound great, yet apparently mean absolutely nothing, fantastic! Clever old you eh?! :thumbright:

Yep indeed, I reckon that is a bulletproof plan you've come up with there Mr Ferndale, my head is going in straight in that ground and it ain't coming up no Siree Spike! Plus, as a bonus, it'll probably keep me safe from Covid as well, so that's another tick in the yay column! Mega awesome super fab or what!

Anyway, great job again on hitting that VS quota SF - an excellent job well done YOU DA MAN (wait is that racist?) oh well great job anyways :thumbup:

Best wishes and candy cane dreams!

Cheers,

Mr. Ayatollah.

Re: Well done Millwall

Sat Dec 05, 2020 10:35 pm

Nuclearblue wrote:THIS SAYS IT ALL AND WHAT ELSE CAN BE SAID TO SAY THIS TAKING THE KNEE IS NOT ACCEPTABLE

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Sure... They are anti discrimination. Apart from:
Sectarian chanting 2020
Homophibic chanting 2020
Racist chanting v Everton 2019
Most violent fans in the country + most fans arrested with weapons
This video https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/articl ... video.html

I'm sure if you go further back than last year you'll get more.

Re: Well done Millwall

Sat Dec 05, 2020 11:03 pm

Nuclearblue wrote:
stickywicket wrote:That's a stadium closed and points deduction.
We had 5 black players in the squad today,
If this happened at the CCS.The black players could walk.
Our club could be in serious trouble.
I would be happy for our stadium to close and a points deduction.
All lives matter but some lives matter more than most.
Don't forgot the black shirts came from the Millwall area.Facists.Traitors in the second world war.

What a pathetic racist comment that is. All lives matter but some lives matter more. How hypocritical are you. There are many lads at Millwall who are black and against that shit

You are, awful but I do like you. :bluescarf:

Re: Well done Millwall

Sun Dec 06, 2020 12:38 am

spikeferndale wrote:Dave Johns 74
Respect Sir

There are a couple of people on here who so wrapped up in their own agenda, that they will not and cannot see what is going on around them.
Even when you try to explain to them, that you do not support BLM, George Floyd or American movements they still persist with mentioning these topics.



taking the knee is in support of BLM and was originally accompanied by black lives matter on their shirts........ its what the thread is about.. and the reason there was booing...


https://www.skysports.com/football/news ... t-kick-off

think its yourself wrapped up in an agenda... clearly find BLM difficult to defend so are trying to alter the conversation...

Re: Well done Millwall

Sun Dec 06, 2020 2:14 am

lets get one thing straight, racism in any form is completely unacceptable.
It was not hard to see that the bending of the knee was not going to last very long. The terms under which it was introduced were unclear...and turned into a purely political argument rather than a racial equality movement. Anyone bending the knee under this guise looked like a complete tw*t

Re: Well done Millwall

Sun Dec 06, 2020 6:56 am

Millwall 0-1 Derby: Game overshadowed by fans booing players taking a knee before kick-off - BBC Sport


BBC

5 December 2020Championship


Derby County's Colin Kazim-Richards raises his fist as players take a knee before kick-off



Some Millwall fans booed players taking a knee at the start of the Championship match against Derby County on Saturday.

It is the first time supporters have been allowed into The Den this season, following the lifting of the second national lockdown on 2 December.

The boos rang out as the two teams took a knee before kick-off in a game which Wayne Rooney's Rams won 1-0.

"It is just disheartening. How do these fans get allocated to the games?" said former England defender Micah Richards.

Players, officials and staff at Premier League and English Football League games have been taking a knee pre-match since football restarted in June in order to show their support for the Black Lives Matter movement for racial equality.

Richards told BBC TV's Final Score: "There are 2,000 so you can pinpoint the people going. There are no excuses. I am sick to death of talking about this situation.

"It is so disheartening because it is like we have come so far but we have so far to go. I don't even like talking about the matter. It feels like it falls on deaf ears. It is time and time and time again."

Rooney says booing 'disappointing and upsetting'
'Minority of fans spoiling club's image'

Former Coventry and Aston Villa striker Dion Dublin, who had a loan spell at Millwall in 2002, added: "They don't agree with taking the knee, which means they are racist. They don't agree with Black Lives Matter; that says they are racist to me.

"It says to me that a minority of Millwall fans are spoiling it for a club that is going in the right direction with a tag they have had for years and years and they are trying to eradicate it."

A Football Association spokesperson said: "The FA supports all players and staff that wish to take a stand against discrimination in a respectful manner, which includes taking of the knee, and strongly condemns the behaviours of any spectators that actively voice their opposition to such activities."

The match itself saw Derby end a 12-match winless streak with Jason Knight netting the winning goal midway through the second half after Millwall keeper Bartosz Bialkowski had saved from Martyn Waghorn.

The result lifted Derby off the bottom off the Championship table and was a first victory for caretaker-boss Rooney, who has expressed an interest in taking the job on a permanent basis.

Millwall had arguably the better of the chances, with Jed Wallace forcing Derby keeper David Marshall into a fine save in the first half, and Jake Cooper glancing wide from a corner just before Knight's goal.

The Rams could have doubled the margin of victory but Matt Clarke's header was gathered by Bialkowski.

Derby County interim manager Wayne Rooney
Derby had not won any of their four previous games under Rooney and three members of the coaching staff since former boss Phillip Cocu was sacked
Millwall preparing 'anti-discrimination strategy'

On Friday, Millwall's first-team squad issued a statement supporting efforts to rid the game "of all forms of discrimination".

The statement added: "The gesture of 'taking the knee' before matches provides an opportunity for us to do exactly that and continues to allow all those playing to publicly showcase their support - on behalf of the whole squad - for the fight against discrimination.

"We wish to make clear that taking the knee, for us, is in no way representative of any agreement with political messaging or ideology. It is purely about tackling discrimination, as has been the case throughout.

"We will continue to do this until the start of the new year when a new and comprehensive anti-discrimination strategy will be announced by the club."

Kick It Out chair Sanjay Bhandari said he was "saddened" by the booing and praised the teams for "defying the hate" shown by some members of the crowd.

"What this demonstrates is that players are right to continue standing up to discrimination, whether that is through taking the knee or speaking out," he added.

"The fight for racial equality continues and we will continue to work closely with clubs across the country to tackle discrimination in all its forms.

"We urge the players to continue using their platforms and their voices to support this fight."

American football player Colin Kaepernick started kneeling symbolically during the pre-game national anthem in the NFL in 2016, in protest at police violence against African-Americans in the United States.

The Black Lives Matter movement and taking a knee has grown in prominence in the United Kingdom following the death of George Floyd in the US in May, which sparked protests around the world.

The 46-year-old, an unarmed black man, died after a white police officer held a knee on his neck for nearly nine minutes.
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Re: Well done Millwall

Sun Dec 06, 2020 7:22 am

Between COVID BLM 2020 certainly has been quite a year makes you wonder what’s next 2021 and beyond
My only take on the whole BLM subject is if you voice ANY kind of opinion that does not wholeheartedly agree with it you are branded a racist
I can categorically state I am NOT racist simple fact BUT
i do not believe in BLM movement someone people will read this and blindly say “ he’s racist “ :roll: :roll:

Re: Well done Millwall

Sun Dec 06, 2020 8:02 am

That picture in the report speaks a million words and is a perfect example of everything that is wrong with this BLM issue

That shows a black man using a black superiority symbol with two white men kneeling to him

That has to be one of the most racist things I've seen and in no way shows equality

Re: Well done Millwall

Sun Dec 06, 2020 9:30 am

spikeferndale wrote:Well done Millwall?
For what?
Jeering your own players?
The players are entitled to demonstrate against something that they feel is wrong in society.
It's 2020 for fucks sake and racism needs to be eradicated and people need to know it is unacceptable.
Top class sports people highlighting that racism is unacceptable, is the quickest and most effective way in getting the message out there to the general public.
Why would people think it is right that high profile sports people highlighting what is obviously a problem, by jeering them?
It is my understanding that each team discuss what action should be taken before each game then convey their decision to the match officials and safety officers.
If they think their players are in the wrong before they kick off, why bother going to support them?
What is more important eradicating racism or winning a football match?

Seems counter intuitive, to beat racism you have to support a racist Marxist organisation, what am I missing here.

Re: Well done Millwall

Sun Dec 06, 2020 9:34 am

Nuclearblue wrote:THIS SAYS IT ALL AND WHAT ELSE CAN BE SAID TO SAY THIS TAKING THE KNEE IS NOT ACCEPTABLE

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Absolutely nails it.

Re: Well done Millwall

Sun Dec 06, 2020 10:47 am

Pembroke bluebird wrote:Between COVID BLM 2020 certainly has been quite a year makes you wonder what’s next 2021 and beyond
My only take on the whole BLM subject is if you voice ANY kind of opinion that does not wholeheartedly agree with it you are branded a racist
I can categorically state I am NOT racist simple fact BUT
i do not believe in BLM movement someone people will read this and blindly say “ he’s racist “ :roll: :roll:


Well according to a racist 'expert' Dion Dublin you are a racist :roll:

This whole matter is getting out of hand and it is time to remove a political action from our sport. If black players want to campaign for BLM then they can do it in their own time and away from football pitches.

Of course holding a view like that will also put me on the Racism naughty step thanks Mr Dublin :banghead:

Re: Well done Millwall

Sun Dec 06, 2020 11:44 am

Another clubs supporters did same but not as much apparently... listening to ssn this morning players really dont understand what they are doing and that its ligitimising a horrible organisation! This player called our country a racist country? A country that made him a millionaire despite being black ... :oops:

Re: Well done Millwall

Sun Dec 06, 2020 12:11 pm

thomasblue wrote:That picture in the report speaks a million words and is a perfect example of everything that is wrong with this BLM issue

That shows a black man using a black superiority symbol with two white men kneeling to him

That has to be one of the most racist things I've seen and in no way shows equality

Spot on chief

Re: Well done Millwall

Sun Dec 06, 2020 12:11 pm

Canton104 wrote:Never thought I’d say it but well done Millwall for booing the players BLM protest before their game. Hopefully it spreads to all grounds.


Yes why cant the morons understand are complete tossers its nothing with concerns for black people its bullshit.

they are anti western so they are my enemy

Re: Well done Millwall

Sun Dec 06, 2020 12:11 pm

Are people seriously getting angry at players enacting their right to freedom of expression by taking to their knee for a few seconds? Wow, quite a few snowflakes on here !

Re: Well done Millwall

Sun Dec 06, 2020 12:19 pm

bill22322 wrote:Are people seriously getting angry at players enacting their right to freedom of expression by taking to their knee for a few seconds? Wow, quite a few snowflakes on here !

I imagine if someone decided to boo during the remembrance sunday silence they'd applaud their freedom of speech as well. Or maybe not

Re: Well done Millwall

Sun Dec 06, 2020 12:22 pm

Nuclearblue wrote:THIS SAYS IT ALL AND WHAT ELSE CAN BE SAID TO SAY THIS TAKING THE KNEE IS NOT ACCEPTABLE

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Had an inkling about this, did a quick search and does anyone want to guess where this was copy and pasted from?
Martin costello. Further helping my theory that any position Martin takes then nuclear immediately takes as well. As he would say 'brainwashed sheep.'

Re: Well done Millwall

Sun Dec 06, 2020 1:20 pm

Taking a knee is an act of subservience. If players want to do that before a game that's up to them.

A raised clenched fist however, is a black power salute and if people boo that then that's up to them also.

Re: Well done Millwall

Sun Dec 06, 2020 1:35 pm

philrogers wrote:Taking a knee is an act of subservience. If players want to do that before a game that's up to them.

A raised clenched fist however, is a black power salute and if people boo that then that's up to them also.



taking the knee is in support of BLM...has been from day1 and was reported as such when it started and has been time and time again since including yesterday over the booing...
if people support them be honest about it instead of this round the houses nonsense.....

Re: Well done Millwall

Sun Dec 06, 2020 1:37 pm

CCFCJosh75 wrote:
bill22322 wrote:Are people seriously getting angry at players enacting their right to freedom of expression by taking to their knee for a few seconds? Wow, quite a few snowflakes on here !

I imagine if someone decided to boo during the remembrance sunday silence they'd applaud their freedom of speech as well. Or maybe not



you cant see the difference between remembering the dead and a political point being made..?

Re: Well done Millwall

Sun Dec 06, 2020 1:44 pm

Tony Blue Williams wrote:
Pembroke bluebird wrote:Between COVID BLM 2020 certainly has been quite a year makes you wonder what’s next 2021 and beyond
My only take on the whole BLM subject is if you voice ANY kind of opinion that does not wholeheartedly agree with it you are branded a racist
I can categorically state I am NOT racist simple fact BUT
i do not believe in BLM movement someone people will read this and blindly say “ he’s racist “ :roll: :roll:


Well according to a racist 'expert' Dion Dublin you are a racist :roll:

This whole matter is getting out of hand and it is time to remove a political action from our sport. If black players want to campaign for BLM then they can do it in their own time and away from football pitches.

Of course holding a view like that will also put me on the Racism naughty step thanks Mr Dublin :banghead:



beats me mate.... how does throwing that word around improve anything....you now have people who have never had a racist thought in their lives being branded racists ..

Re: Well done Millwall

Sun Dec 06, 2020 2:12 pm

NJ0119 wrote:Idiotic original post! The entire world is still full of racial injustice, why shouldn't in 2020 we start using any platform possible to set it straight. Nobody is saying Black or ethnic is better. Just we should look past this and treat all humans equally


If only it was that simple. What many supposed anti racists are saying in just the crime of being white is racist. Every white person is guilty of white privilege and are racist even if they say they aren't. The problem is the BLM movement has disappeared up its own backside and is wallowing in victimhood. It is not enough to never say or do anything racist anymore. White people are being held to some standard it is impossible to meet. Many are throughly feed up about it that is what the booing at Millwall was about.

Re: Well done Millwall

Sun Dec 06, 2020 2:32 pm

bill22322 wrote:Are people seriously getting angry at players enacting their right to freedom of expression by taking to their knee for a few seconds? Wow, quite a few snowflakes on here !

No one is getting angry on here as you state the angriest post on this thread so far is yours mate :lol: :lol:
Just a debate and posters giving their right to freedom of speech :thumbright: :thumbup:

Re: Well done Millwall

Sun Dec 06, 2020 4:27 pm

Pembroke bluebird wrote:
bill22322 wrote:Are people seriously getting angry at players enacting their right to freedom of expression by taking to their knee for a few seconds? Wow, quite a few snowflakes on here !

No one is getting angry on here as you state the angriest post on this thread so far is yours mate :lol: :lol:
Just a debate and posters giving their right to freedom of speech :thumbright: :thumbup:

People who claim to be anti facist think freedom of speech is ok if you agree with their world view, if you divert from the absurd woke orthodoxy you are racist and your hate speech must be silenced.
Funny old world.

Re: Well done Millwall

Sun Dec 06, 2020 5:05 pm

Pembroke bluebird wrote:
bill22322 wrote:Are people seriously getting angry at players enacting their right to freedom of expression by taking to their knee for a few seconds? Wow, quite a few snowflakes on here !

No one is getting angry on here as you state the angriest post on this thread so far is yours mate :lol: :lol:
Just a debate and posters giving their right to freedom of speech :thumbright: :thumbup:


I don't sound angry do I? :lol: :lol:
I was just stating how I thought that a simple act of a few footballers taking to their knee for a few seconds has made so many people on here angry. Best thing to do, in this instance, if you disagree is ignore it.

Re: Well done Millwall

Sun Dec 06, 2020 6:15 pm

I think more of this will happen once fans allowed back in

Re: Well done Millwall

Sun Dec 06, 2020 7:03 pm

Interesting from Rowet....
Millwall manager Gary Rowett, who saw Jason Knight grab Derby's winner, expressed his disappointment on Saturday but said his players were concerned that taking the knee was in danger of becoming an "empty" gesture.

He said: "The players have released a statement together and said they don't support it (taking the knee) as a political message but support anti-discrimination.

"Moving forward, like a lot of clubs, they would prefer not to take the knee and actually enact change.