THE COVID-19 VACCINE: WILL YOU HAVE ONE?

So, after a few days of voting, 75% will be having the vaccine when offered. On the basis that not too many very elderly people access this site, of which the majority are likely to have the vaccine as they are most at risk from the virus; it suggests the minimum government target of 70% is likely to be reached. Therefore, on reading the posts, this should get rid of the virus in the next few months, but those who take the vaccine may fall ill or die from its effects in the long term.
At least we have a few years attending matches again before we drop!

Very good summary their Mr Birchgrove.

So, after a few days of voting, 75% will be having the vaccine when offered. On the basis that not too many very elderly people access this site, of which the majority are likely to have the vaccine as they are most at risk from the virus; it suggests the minimum government target of 70% is likely to be reached. Therefore, on reading the posts, this should get rid of the virus in the next few months, but those who take the vaccine may fall ill or die from its effects in the long term.
At least we have a few years attending matches again before we drop!

Very good summary their Mr Birchgrove.

No one has died from the vaccine, many have died from Covid

No one has been hospitalised from the vaccine or had long covid, millions have had both from Covid.

Be quite interested to see the numbers.



I for one will be.

Not sure about this vaccine?

On one side there's world-renowned virologists, medical experts and Noble prize winning scientists saying it's an amazing breakthrough but on the other side Dai from Treherbert says he's seen I am Legend and this is how a zombie apocalypse starts

Be quite interested to see the numbers.



I for one will be.

Not sure about this vaccine?

On one side there's world-renowned virologists, medical experts and Noble prize winning scientists saying it's an amazing breakthrough but on the other side Dai from Treherbert says he's seen I am Legend and this is how a zombie apocalypse starts

I think you.ve summed it there mate.

So, after a few days of voting, 75% will be having the vaccine when offered. On the basis that not too many very elderly people access this site, of which the majority are likely to have the vaccine as they are most at risk from the virus; it suggests the minimum government target of 70% is likely to be reached. Therefore, on reading the posts, this should get rid of the virus in the next few months, but those who take the vaccine may fall ill or die from its effects in the long term.
At least we have a few years attending matches again before we drop!

Very good summary their Mr Birchgrove.

No one has died from the vaccine, many have died from Covid

No one has been hospitalised from the vaccine or had long covid, millions have had both from Covid.

Couldn't agree more! My previous post was a summary of every ones opinion above. I think we should have more faith and optimism and take the vaccine for the reasons mentioned by Bluebina.

So, after a few days of voting, 75% will be having the vaccine when offered. On the basis that not too many very elderly people access this site, of which the majority are likely to have the vaccine as they are most at risk from the virus; it suggests the minimum government target of 70% is likely to be reached. Therefore, on reading the posts, this should get rid of the virus in the next few months, but those who take the vaccine may fall ill or die from its effects in the long term.
At least we have a few years attending matches again before we drop!

Very good summary their Mr Birchgrove.

No one has died from the vaccine, many have died from Covid

No one has been hospitalised from the vaccine or had long covid, millions have had both from Covid.

Couldn't agree more! My previous post was a summary of every ones opinion above. I think we should have more faith and optimism and take the vaccine for the reasons mentioned by Bluebina.

Agreed mate, I'm starting to think peoples views on covid and vaccine's mirror their views on life. I've got a mate who is very negative and moans all the time, he hates covid restrictions, and hates the idea of a vaccine and can only see the negatives in it. It's almost like he wants the vaccine to fail so he can carry on moaning and being miserable for longer?

So, after a few days of voting, 75% will be having the vaccine when offered. On the basis that not too many very elderly people access this site, of which the majority are likely to have the vaccine as they are most at risk from the virus; it suggests the minimum government target of 70% is likely to be reached. Therefore, on reading the posts, this should get rid of the virus in the next few months, but those who take the vaccine may fall ill or die from its effects in the long term.
At least we have a few years attending matches again before we drop!

Very good summary their Mr Birchgrove.

No one has died from the vaccine, many have died from Covid

No one has been hospitalised from the vaccine or had long covid, millions have had both from Covid.

Couldn't agree more! My previous post was a summary of every ones opinion above. I think we should have more faith and optimism and take the vaccine for the reasons mentioned by Bluebina.

Agreed mate, I'm starting to think peoples views on covid and vaccine's mirror their views on life. I've got a mate who is very negative and moans all the time, he hates covid restrictions, and hates the idea of a vaccine and can only see the negatives in it. It's almost like he wants the vaccine to fail so he can carry on moaning and being miserable for longer?

Correct again Bluebina.

I have mirrored and supported your views on this vaccine since the day it became reality but whilst I admire your perseverance and fully support your views on this, I'm glad you have begun to realise "....peoples views on covid and vaccine's mirror their views on life". That realisation was why I ceased posting on the benefits of this vaccine and the dangers of this virus (personally experienced through the loss of loved family members to this brutal virus) because I finally concluded that whatever evidence one posts you will not be able to convince a hard core of anti vaccine people of the benefits of this vaccine versus their manic fear of life harming side effects, in spite of the comfort given by the UK's MHRA.

So, after a few days of voting, 75% will be having the vaccine when offered. On the basis that not too many very elderly people access this site, of which the majority are likely to have the vaccine as they are most at risk from the virus; it suggests the minimum government target of 70% is likely to be reached. Therefore, on reading the posts, this should get rid of the virus in the next few months, but those who take the vaccine may fall ill or die from its effects in the long term.
At least we have a few years attending matches again before we drop!

Very good summary their Mr Birchgrove.

No one has died from the vaccine, many have died from Covid

No one has been hospitalised from the vaccine or had long covid, millions have had both from Covid.

Couldn't agree more! My previous post was a summary of every ones opinion above. I think we should have more faith and optimism and take the vaccine for the reasons mentioned by Bluebina.

Agreed mate, I'm starting to think peoples views on covid and vaccine's mirror their views on life. I've got a mate who is very negative and moans all the time, he hates covid restrictions, and hates the idea of a vaccine and can only see the negatives in it. It's almost like he wants the vaccine to fail so he can carry on moaning and being miserable for longer?

Correct again Bluebina.

I have mirrored and supported your views on this vaccine since the day it became reality but whilst I admire your perseverance and fully support your views on this, I'm glad you have begun to realise "....peoples views on covid and vaccine's mirror their views on life". That realisation was why I ceased posting on the benefits of this vaccine and the dangers of this virus (personally experienced through the loss of loved family members to this brutal virus) because I finally concluded that whatever evidence one posts you will not be able to convince a hard core of anti vaccine people of the benefits of this vaccine versus their manic fear of life harming side effects, in spite of the comfort given by the UK's MHRA.

Yes that makes sense

I think we all know our positions, at least some of the anti-vaxxers are coming around slowly, most are saying they won't take it straight away, well they won't have a chance to anyway unless they are a carer or live in a care home anyway, so will have had millions already vaccinated before they are even called.

It's a definite no from me!

https://thenewdaily.com.au/news/coronav ... -vaccines/

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It's a definite no from me!

https://thenewdaily.com.au/news/coronav ... -vaccines/

https://www.rt.com/usa/509081-pfizer-va ... mpaign=RSS

So you aren't getting a vaccine because 2 people that have had it have died (no causation given in the article) and 4 have developed Bell’s palsy (which is at a rate that is the same as normal)?

Your first article says that twice as many people on the placebo died than with the vaccine. If we go based on flawed correlation then you're twice as likely to live with the vaccine than without so you can get back into the queue now!

Covid-19 vaccine: Allergy warning over new jab -

People with a history of significant allergic reactions should not have the Pfizer/BioNTech Covid jab, regulators say.

It came after two NHS workers had allergic reactions on Tuesday.

The advice applies to those who have had reactions to medicines, food or vaccines, the Medicines and Healthcare products Regulatory Agency said.

The two people had a reaction shortly after having the new jab, had treatment and are both fine now.

They are understood to have had an anaphylactoid reaction, which tends to involve a skin rash, breathlessness and sometimes a drop in blood pressure. This is not the same as anaphylaxis which can be fatal.

Both NHS workers have a history of serious allergies and carry adrenaline pens around with them.

Covid-19 vaccine: Allergy warning over new jab -

People with a history of significant allergic reactions should not have the Pfizer/BioNTech Covid jab, regulators say.

It came after two NHS workers had allergic reactions on Tuesday.

The advice applies to those who have had reactions to medicines, food or vaccines, the Medicines and Healthcare products Regulatory Agency said.

The two people had a reaction shortly after having the new jab, had treatment and are both fine now.

They are understood to have had an anaphylactoid reaction, which tends to involve a skin rash, breathlessness and sometimes a drop in blood pressure. This is not the same as anaphylaxis which can be fatal.

Both NHS workers have a history of serious allergies and carry adrenaline pens around with them.

This is extremely common for most vaccines and jabs. I needed a few different jabs when I went abroad a few years back and every doctor that administered them (multiple trips so different doctors) asked a series of questions about my health with quite a lot of the focus on allergies.
I know people with severe allergies are also warned against getting the flu jab in case of a negative reaction.

One thing I find interesting is the number of people saying how Covid is not a big deal and bringing up stats about how many of the deaths are over 80's and how it has a ~0.3% fatality rate etc are now the ones against getting a virus and citing articles which talk about a few hundred people developing side effects from previous vaccines that have been distributed to millions.

The 2009 swine flu vaccine is one I've seen referenced a lot as an advertisement against the current vaccine. 60 people developed narcolepsy from the 2009 vaccine but it was given to millions in the UK, the chances of developing a side effect from that vaccine were astronomically smaller than the risk of dying from Covid.

The reasons for it's quick development are extremely well documented and this is presumably the most well funded and largest collaborative effort of research and development in medical history.

One thing I find interesting is the number of people saying how Covid is not a big deal and bringing up stats about how many of the deaths are over 80's and how it has a ~0.3% fatality rate etc are now the ones against getting a virus and citing articles which talk about a few hundred people developing side effects from previous vaccines that have been distributed to millions.

The 2009 swine flu vaccine is one I've seen referenced a lot as an advertisement against the current vaccine. 60 people developed narcolepsy from the 2009 vaccine but it was given to millions in the UK, the chances of developing a side effect from that vaccine were astronomically smaller than the risk of dying from Covid.

The reasons for it's quick development are extremely well documented and this is presumably the most well funded and largest collaborative effort of research and development in medical history.

you find it less interesting if those that have a....not a big deal..{ your words } attitude towards the virus were desperate to vaccinate against it...?

Covid-19 vaccine: Allergy warning over new jab -

People with a history of significant allergic reactions should not have the Pfizer/BioNTech Covid jab, regulators say.

It came after two NHS workers had allergic reactions on Tuesday.

The advice applies to those who have had reactions to medicines, food or vaccines, the Medicines and Healthcare products Regulatory Agency said.

The two people had a reaction shortly after having the new jab, had treatment and are both fine now.

They are understood to have had an anaphylactoid reaction, which tends to involve a skin rash, breathlessness and sometimes a drop in blood pressure. This is not the same as anaphylaxis which can be fatal.

Both NHS workers have a history of serious allergies and carry adrenaline pens around with them.

This is extremely common for most vaccines and jabs. I needed a few different jabs when I went abroad a few years back and every doctor that administered them (multiple trips so different doctors) asked a series of questions about my health with quite a lot of the focus on allergies.
I know people with severe allergies are also warned against getting the flu jab in case of a negative reaction.

Some of these people will die if they eat a peanut, so to have a little reaction to a vaccine is to be expected.

Covid-19 vaccine: Allergy warning over new jab -

People with a history of significant allergic reactions should not have the Pfizer/BioNTech Covid jab, regulators say.

It came after two NHS workers had allergic reactions on Tuesday.

The advice applies to those who have had reactions to medicines, food or vaccines, the Medicines and Healthcare products Regulatory Agency said.

The two people had a reaction shortly after having the new jab, had treatment and are both fine now.

They are understood to have had an anaphylactoid reaction, which tends to involve a skin rash, breathlessness and sometimes a drop in blood pressure. This is not the same as anaphylaxis which can be fatal.

Both NHS workers have a history of serious allergies and carry adrenaline pens around with them.

This is extremely common for most vaccines and jabs. I needed a few different jabs when I went abroad a few years back and every doctor that administered them (multiple trips so different doctors) asked a series of questions about my health with quite a lot of the focus on allergies.
I know people with severe allergies are also warned against getting the flu jab in case of a negative reaction.

Some of these people will die if they eat a peanut, so to have a little reaction to a vaccine is to be expected.

yes its an extremely small percentage...very similar to covid for the vast majority of people.... isnt it strange how small percentage has now become the buzz phrase....

One thing I find interesting is the number of people saying how Covid is not a big deal and bringing up stats about how many of the deaths are over 80's and how it has a ~0.3% fatality rate etc are now the ones against getting a virus and citing articles which talk about a few hundred people developing side effects from previous vaccines that have been distributed to millions.

The 2009 swine flu vaccine is one I've seen referenced a lot as an advertisement against the current vaccine. 60 people developed narcolepsy from the 2009 vaccine but it was given to millions in the UK, the chances of developing a side effect from that vaccine were astronomically smaller than the risk of dying from Covid.

The reasons for it's quick development are extremely well documented and this is presumably the most well funded and largest collaborative effort of research and development in medical history.

you find it less interesting if those that have a....not a big deal..{ your words } attitude towards the virus were desperate to vaccinate against it...?

I find it interesting that a lot of the people who have talked about the small chances of Covid killing you, how the media have overplayed it, how cancer kills more each year, etc are now doing the reverse and talking about the dangers of this vaccine and citing troubles with previous vaccines which include examples with even smaller fatality rates than Covid.

I understand the stance of "I don't think Covid is a big deal so I won't get the vaccine because it's not neccesary" but it's the ones who dismiss the risks of Covid but are now extremely vocal in worrying about side effects from the vaccine.

One thing I find interesting is the number of people saying how Covid is not a big deal and bringing up stats about how many of the deaths are over 80's and how it has a ~0.3% fatality rate etc are now the ones against getting a virus and citing articles which talk about a few hundred people developing side effects from previous vaccines that have been distributed to millions.

The 2009 swine flu vaccine is one I've seen referenced a lot as an advertisement against the current vaccine. 60 people developed narcolepsy from the 2009 vaccine but it was given to millions in the UK, the chances of developing a side effect from that vaccine were astronomically smaller than the risk of dying from Covid.

The reasons for it's quick development are extremely well documented and this is presumably the most well funded and largest collaborative effort of research and development in medical history.

you find it less interesting if those that have a....not a big deal..{ your words } attitude towards the virus were desperate to vaccinate against it...?

I find it interesting that a lot of the people who have talked about the small chances of Covid killing you, how the media have overplayed it, how cancer kills more each year, etc are now doing the reverse and talking about the dangers of this vaccine and citing troubles with previous vaccines which include examples with even smaller fatality rates than Covid.

I understand the stance of "I don't think Covid is a big deal so I won't get the vaccine because it's not neccesary" but it's the ones who dismiss the risks of Covid but are now extremely vocal in worrying about side effects from the vaccine.

Spot on they seem to think having mild muscle pain from the vaccine is worse than dying from covid?

Covid-19 vaccine: Allergy warning over new jab -

People with a history of significant allergic reactions should not have the Pfizer/BioNTech Covid jab, regulators say.

It came after two NHS workers had allergic reactions on Tuesday.

The advice applies to those who have had reactions to medicines, food or vaccines, the Medicines and Healthcare products Regulatory Agency said.

The two people had a reaction shortly after having the new jab, had treatment and are both fine now.

They are understood to have had an anaphylactoid reaction, which tends to involve a skin rash, breathlessness and sometimes a drop in blood pressure. This is not the same as anaphylaxis which can be fatal.

Both NHS workers have a history of serious allergies and carry adrenaline pens around with them.

This is extremely common for most vaccines and jabs. I needed a few different jabs when I went abroad a few years back and every doctor that administered them (multiple trips so different doctors) asked a series of questions about my health with quite a lot of the focus on allergies.
I know people with severe allergies are also warned against getting the flu jab in case of a negative reaction.

Some of these people will die if they eat a peanut, so to have a little reaction to a vaccine is to be expected.

yes its an extremely small percentage...very similar to covid for the vast majority of people.... isnt it strange how small percentage has now become the buzz phrase....

I didn't say it's a small percentage?

I said these people who may die if they eat a peanut, obviously need to take care when taking any medication, because they have a medical problem.

Covid-19 vaccine: Allergy warning over new jab -

People with a history of significant allergic reactions should not have the Pfizer/BioNTech Covid jab, regulators say.

It came after two NHS workers had allergic reactions on Tuesday.

The advice applies to those who have had reactions to medicines, food or vaccines, the Medicines and Healthcare products Regulatory Agency said.

The two people had a reaction shortly after having the new jab, had treatment and are both fine now.

They are understood to have had an anaphylactoid reaction, which tends to involve a skin rash, breathlessness and sometimes a drop in blood pressure. This is not the same as anaphylaxis which can be fatal.

Both NHS workers have a history of serious allergies and carry adrenaline pens around with them.

This is extremely common for most vaccines and jabs. I needed a few different jabs when I went abroad a few years back and every doctor that administered them (multiple trips so different doctors) asked a series of questions about my health with quite a lot of the focus on allergies.
I know people with severe allergies are also warned against getting the flu jab in case of a negative reaction.

Some of these people will die if they eat a peanut, so to have a little reaction to a vaccine is to be expected.

What a crass statement!! A "little" reaction you say,as a sufferer of allergies myself,and suffered anaphylactic shock,on more than one occasion,I guarantee you a "little"reaction its not!!!! How f@cking ignorant are you? Im alright jack type that you are!
You do what you want,let others at least do the same?

Covid-19 vaccine: Allergy warning over new jab -

People with a history of significant allergic reactions should not have the Pfizer/BioNTech Covid jab, regulators say.

It came after two NHS workers had allergic reactions on Tuesday.

The advice applies to those who have had reactions to medicines, food or vaccines, the Medicines and Healthcare products Regulatory Agency said.

The two people had a reaction shortly after having the new jab, had treatment and are both fine now.

They are understood to have had an anaphylactoid reaction, which tends to involve a skin rash, breathlessness and sometimes a drop in blood pressure. This is not the same as anaphylaxis which can be fatal.

Both NHS workers have a history of serious allergies and carry adrenaline pens around with them.

This is extremely common for most vaccines and jabs. I needed a few different jabs when I went abroad a few years back and every doctor that administered them (multiple trips so different doctors) asked a series of questions about my health with quite a lot of the focus on allergies.
I know people with severe allergies are also warned against getting the flu jab in case of a negative reaction.

Some of these people will die if they eat a peanut, so to have a little reaction to a vaccine is to be expected.

yes its an extremely small percentage...very similar to covid for the vast majority of people.... isnt it strange how small percentage has now become the buzz phrase....

I didn't say it's a small percentage?

I said these people who may die if they eat a peanut, obviously need to take care when taking any medication, because they have a medical problem.

ok you didnt say that...but your overall stance when it comes to anything to do negatively with the vaccine is that its almost insignificant...while youve been blowing covid out of all proportions for months...
personally its way to early to judge the vaccine either way regarding long term side effects..... which is the same as ive heard every single doctor on tv and the radio say when asked this week.

Covid-19 vaccine: Allergy warning over new jab -

People with a history of significant allergic reactions should not have the Pfizer/BioNTech Covid jab, regulators say.

It came after two NHS workers had allergic reactions on Tuesday.

The advice applies to those who have had reactions to medicines, food or vaccines, the Medicines and Healthcare products Regulatory Agency said.

The two people had a reaction shortly after having the new jab, had treatment and are both fine now.

They are understood to have had an anaphylactoid reaction, which tends to involve a skin rash, breathlessness and sometimes a drop in blood pressure. This is not the same as anaphylaxis which can be fatal.

Both NHS workers have a history of serious allergies and carry adrenaline pens around with them.

This is extremely common for most vaccines and jabs. I needed a few different jabs when I went abroad a few years back and every doctor that administered them (multiple trips so different doctors) asked a series of questions about my health with quite a lot of the focus on allergies.
I know people with severe allergies are also warned against getting the flu jab in case of a negative reaction.

Some of these people will die if they eat a peanut, so to have a little reaction to a vaccine is to be expected.

What a crass statement!! A "little" reaction you say,as a sufferer of allergies myself,and suffered anaphylactic shock,on more than one occasion,I guarantee you a "little"reaction its not!!!! How f@cking ignorant are you? Im alright jack type that you are!
You do what you want,let others at least do the same?

It's a fact, so far people have had a little reaction, people who suffer from anaphylactic shock should be careful what they take regardless, it's not Pfizers fault?

You've been making crass statements like Corona only kills a small percentage of people for months, but you're ok jack!

Do what the feck you want, I know six people who have the virus right now, and I'll take the vaccine when I get the chance as it's proven safer than catching the virus


Covid is flying in Wales, watch this space we will be locked down for all of January at least, talk of it starting on the 27th December!

Do what the feck you want, I know six people who have the virus right now, and I'll take the vaccine when I get the chance as it's proven safer than catching the virus


Covid is flying in Wales, watch this space we will be locked down for all of January at least, talk of it starting on the 27th December!

My personal experience of people I know and who have been positively tested for this virus is as follows:

Case 1: My 82 year old father in law who had a 13 hour heart operation about 6 years ago was tested positive in a nursing home. He felt very rough and tired for about a week but is now OK.

Case 2: My little Bro, (he's a fat fucker in all honesty), coming up to 50 years of age caught it and was really tired for about 4-5 days. He's back in work now and thinks he's a lean mean fighting machine!!!

Case 3: A friend who had a test because he was traced, diagnosed with Covid and lost money as he wasn't allowed to work but had no symptoms.

I am not being flippant, but does anyone seriously believe this virus is as bad as your Government makes out?

Do what the feck you want, I know six people who have the virus right now, and I'll take the vaccine when I get the chance as it's proven safer than catching the virus


Covid is flying in Wales, watch this space we will be locked down for all of January at least, talk of it starting on the 27th December!

My personal experience of people I know and who have been positively tested for this virus is as follows:

Case 1: My 82 year old father in law who had a 13 hour heart operation about 6 years ago was tested positive in a nursing home. He felt very rough and tired for about a week but is now OK.

Case 2: My little Bro, (he's a fat fucker in all honesty), coming up to 50 years of age caught it and was really tired for about 4-5 days. He's back in work now and thinks he's a lean mean fighting machine!!!

Case 3: A friend who had a test because he was traced, diagnosed with Covid and lost money as he wasn't allowed to work but had no symptoms.

I am not being flippant, but does anyone seriously believe this virus is as bad as your Government makes out?

It's not as bad as it was when the NHS panicked in the first wave, and they have learned how to treat it and stop most people dying.

I know people who have it now, and they say it's really nasty and exhausting, it won't kill them but they've been rough for a week, and still feel rough. Sounds like flu to me for most fifty-year-olds?

It's a bit like the lottery in reverse, with an extremely low chance of winning the top prize, with a lot of people getting £10 and then a lot in between.

60,000 deaths are not to be sniffed at if your unlucky it can still be fatal.

The main problem is it's so virulent and is stretching the NHS to maximum capacity, and that a lot of people are having health issues further down the line with long covid.

Then there are people who have had the vaccine and a couple have felt where the needle went in the arm for a day, and two people who are allergic to almost everything had an allergic reaction to it, so that's the decision we face

Do what the feck you want, I know six people who have the virus right now, and I'll take the vaccine when I get the chance as it's proven safer than catching the virus


Covid is flying in Wales, watch this space we will be locked down for all of January at least, talk of it starting on the 27th December!

My personal experience of people I know and who have been positively tested for this virus is as follows:

Case 1: My 82 year old father in law who had a 13 hour heart operation about 6 years ago was tested positive in a nursing home. He felt very rough and tired for about a week but is now OK.

Case 2: My little Bro, (he's a fat fucker in all honesty), coming up to 50 years of age caught it and was really tired for about 4-5 days. He's back in work now and thinks he's a lean mean fighting machine!!!

Case 3: A friend who had a test because he was traced, diagnosed with Covid and lost money as he wasn't allowed to work but had no symptoms.

I am not being flippant, but does anyone seriously believe this virus is as bad as your Government makes out?

Sorry mate I think you are not only being flippant but selfish too. Based ON YOUR PERSONAL EXPERIENCE of covid, you claim that none of us should be convinced by the government that covid is as bad as is being made out.
Do you need to be reminded that 63,500 loved ones have died in the UK of this virus? None of them may have been loved ones of your but two of my loved ones are in that statistic.

My personal experience of covid is:

1. My 53 year old sister - not overweight/no underlying conditions, employed as a nurse, caught it. Very ill for 2 weeks, usual covid symptoms, couldn't eat, vomiting etc lost a stone but recovered. Now so terrified of the experience she is uncomfortable being in work (but still goes because others need looking after) but has grabbed the opportunity of a vaccine in 2 weeks time.
2.My 90 year old uncle - admitted to hospital on a Thursday with non covid related pneumonia. Died of a subsequent covid infection 4 days later whilst still in hospital.
3. Whilst in hospital my uncle's son and daughter, (my cousins), his son-in-law and 2 grandsons visited him (prior to him testing positive for covid). They all contracted covid. The 2 grandsons had the least hash symptoms but were still quite ill and the daughter and son in law (her husband) were very ill at home but recovered. All 4 suffered such a bad experience when ill that they too are desperate to be vaccinated.
4. Unfortunately, my uncle's son (my cousin) wasn't able to fight off the covid infection. He was a fit 61 year old builder (had his own business). He was admitted to hospital 2 days after his dad (my uncle died) with severe covid like symptoms. He immediately tested positive and within 3 days of being admitted, he had to be put into ICU on a ventilator and a week later he died because the virus had destroyed every main organ in his body.

That's the reality of this virus and until someone sees and understands its brutality first hand it is very easy to take the stance you have taken and obviously you are far from being on your own. I sincerely hope that you are yours remain untouched by this horrible and heart breaking virus and for you your words ring true but please remember that its already too late for many of us.

Do what the feck you want, I know six people who have the virus right now, and I'll take the vaccine when I get the chance as it's proven safer than catching the virus


Covid is flying in Wales, watch this space we will be locked down for all of January at least, talk of it starting on the 27th December!

My personal experience of people I know and who have been positively tested for this virus is as follows:

Case 1: My 82 year old father in law who had a 13 hour heart operation about 6 years ago was tested positive in a nursing home. He felt very rough and tired for about a week but is now OK.

Case 2: My little Bro, (he's a fat fucker in all honesty), coming up to 50 years of age caught it and was really tired for about 4-5 days. He's back in work now and thinks he's a lean mean fighting machine!!!

Case 3: A friend who had a test because he was traced, diagnosed with Covid and lost money as he wasn't allowed to work but had no symptoms.

I am not being flippant, but does anyone seriously believe this virus is as bad as your Government makes out?

thats most peoples experiences mate...

Do what the feck you want, I know six people who have the virus right now, and I'll take the vaccine when I get the chance as it's proven safer than catching the virus


Covid is flying in Wales, watch this space we will be locked down for all of January at least, talk of it starting on the 27th December!

My personal experience of people I know and who have been positively tested for this virus is as follows:

Case 1: My 82 year old father in law who had a 13 hour heart operation about 6 years ago was tested positive in a nursing home. He felt very rough and tired for about a week but is now OK.

Case 2: My little Bro, (he's a fat fucker in all honesty), coming up to 50 years of age caught it and was really tired for about 4-5 days. He's back in work now and thinks he's a lean mean fighting machine!!!

Case 3: A friend who had a test because he was traced, diagnosed with Covid and lost money as he wasn't allowed to work but had no symptoms.

I am not being flippant, but does anyone seriously believe this virus is as bad as your Government makes out?

thats most peoples experiences mate...

I wish it were mine and long may it remain his experience.

Try the Covid 19 diet no TV adverts no bullshit it works!! Now in week 3 of this horrible pest and I am clear to wander but I do not, still feel grotty wife quite sick. Neither of us had underlying health issues it just hit. My mate very overweight, heavy smoker positive test his wife is a nurse she needed a test so he also had to be tested. He was positive felt fine ?????? Do we destroy out economy for this , no we do not the consequences of economic devastation after this are truly awful. But oh yes after this I will have the jab.

Oxford Covid vaccine to be combined with Sputnik jab for trial

https://www.theguardian.com/world/2020/ ... -for-trial

Covid-19 vaccine: Allergy warning over new jab -

People with a history of significant allergic reactions should not have the Pfizer/BioNTech Covid jab, regulators say.

It came after two NHS workers had allergic reactions on Tuesday.

The advice applies to those who have had reactions to medicines, food or vaccines, the Medicines and Healthcare products Regulatory Agency said.

The two people had a reaction shortly after having the new jab, had treatment and are both fine now.

They are understood to have had an anaphylactoid reaction, which tends to involve a skin rash, breathlessness and sometimes a drop in blood pressure. This is not the same as anaphylaxis which can be fatal.

Both NHS workers have a history of serious allergies and carry adrenaline pens around with them.

This is extremely common for most vaccines and jabs. I needed a few different jabs when I went abroad a few years back and every doctor that administered them (multiple trips so different doctors) asked a series of questions about my health with quite a lot of the focus on allergies.
I know people with severe allergies are also warned against getting the flu jab in case of a negative reaction.

Some of these people will die if they eat a peanut, so to have a little reaction to a vaccine is to be expected.

What a crass statement!! A "little" reaction you say,as a sufferer of allergies myself,and suffered anaphylactic shock,on more than one occasion,I guarantee you a "little"reaction its not!!!! How f@cking ignorant are you? Im alright jack type that you are!
You do what you want,let others at least do the same?

It's a fact, so far people have had a little reaction, people who suffer from anaphylactic shock should be careful what they take regardless, it's not Pfizers fault?

You've been making crass statements like Corona only kills a small percentage of people for months, but you're ok jack!

Do what the feck you want, I know six people who have the virus right now, and I'll take the vaccine when I get the chance as it's proven safer than catching the virus


Covid is flying in Wales, watch this space we will be locked down for all of January at least, talk of it starting on the 27th December!

So you are saying what exactly Am I wrong in saying it only kills a small percentage? And no I am not alright jack ,I have to be careful on any medication I get,due to allergies,so this is no different so you know 6 people with it,are they hospitalised and in a bad way,or have they some mild symptoms ,to be totally honest,I know of 3 people who have had negative tests,doesn't mean they will not get it,but I know only one person to date,who has it,but they have had very mild symtoms
,remember your statement"so far".
Where did I say it was Pfizers fault by the way? Sorry but your statement is based on 2 cases to date,which luckily weren't serious.
That may not be the case for some!
You are stating nothing I haven't already read or seen regarding covid flying in Wales, same in Germany. And thanks for letting me do "what I want,regatding being vaccinated,although I didn't need permission from you thanks .

Why are you stating we will be in lockdown,this was obvious,due to this "virus holiday".
We all know your preference regards taking the vaccine,and you would have no hesitation in having it tomorrow,crack on I say
By the way,your having a go,but during the first lockdown I volunteered to take medications to isolated patients,mostly elderly people who were told to shield at home,and will do the same again if we are locked down once more
I've never denied it's existence (covid) but I guess you believe the figures we are fed too?

I and others don't believe them,and for various reasons,and those who wish to abstain from an untested (I don't count it as tested due to condensed period of time) should be allowed to do so,without people as yourself,trying to mock/ridicule them because you think differently to them,for some the time period to allow for vaccinated people to show adverse and possibly serious side effects.
I won't be surprised when they start new lockdown, as suggested,even though it may well start on my birthday
But it's not because people haven't been vaccinated! It's because people are crowding city centres for the Christmas covid holiday!!
Of course it will spike around January, that's not the fault of people not wanted to be vaccinated is it?? That fault lies clearly at the feet of the decision makers,although most people I have discussed it with,were doing family Christmas in the normal way,regardless of rules! The goverment knew this full well,so put out a "good news" story for once,you can meet people you haven't seen for 6 months or more? It's a gift from your leaders,yeah right,course it is,cos covid will understand,and perhaps take some time off,after all,they have been busy !! Anyway,I'll let you go,don't want to lose your place in the queue now