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The massive overreaction has been to lock down those who face no danger from this virus. Only those in the vulnerable groups should have been locked down and the massive resources wasted on paying people to stay at home should have been diverted and used to shield the vulnerable instead whilst all healthy people should have been allowed to continue with their lives.

Boris was fucked with it, she saved due to his status and the best care in the country, Kate Garraways husband is in a bad way, I don’t think either had serious health issues or lung problems ?

Some people are underestimating it, and people comparing it to flu is ridiculous.

The average age of those who have died is 82. That is taking all the population into consideration not just two examples. As for the two examples you have quoted Boris was 55 and grossly overweight (that would be a vulnerable group) and Dreck Draper was 53 years of age and again overweight, but despite this neither have died.

It is not ridiculous to point out that a respiratory illness is different to an influencer illness. A respiratory virus will in 95% of cases kill over 80's or those with suppressed immune systems due to other medical conditions. Influencer affects and kills all ages like the Spanish Flu did.

My point is valid in that those who were healthy and young should have been allowed to continue with their lives whilst those who were considered vulnerable to a respiratory decease should have been shielded.

It is absolutely ridiculous to compare COVID 19 with flu, if Draper or Boris caught flu they would have spent two days in bed and three days at home, not be half dead in hospital Intensive care, talk sense!

Draper and Boris are the same size as half the Country, flu does not kill fit fat 50 year olds l!!!

What a load of tosh!! I suggest people check their memories! It was widely reported at the time of his hospital stay"at no stage was the prime minister on a ventilator " and only recieved added oxygen to aid his breathing, where are these reports saying he was half dead?? The nearest thought of him being seriously ill,was his girlfriend saying they had some dark days during his stay! It was reported he went into intensive care"as a precaution " and in my belief,because of who he is,any other mortal would have to wait until necessary, to receive intensive care,these beds are only for people requiring intensive treatment,or are people suggesting
That the reports we were fed were deliberately hiding how seriously ill he was??

Boris was in a bad way and in intensive care, how about Draper?

Do you honestly think either would have been worse with flu

I've had it at least five times once in my fifties, 2 days in bed because due to the fever and temperature swings then take it easy for a few days that's it, Covid - 19 offers a far greater chance of a bad reaction.

If you had to catch one or other are you telling me you would rather catch Covid -19 to avoid having flu?[/quote]





ICU was precautionary ..christ it was said enough..
no you cant compare, flu kills millions every year.. and kills younger.
the lemsip max sums it up for quite a few though. maybe if the big evil media giant or even doctor Hilary tells you differently you can shit yourself over flu too..[/quote]


Ha ha I'd been fine if I had covid, but it is a much more serious virus than flue, you could have a vaccine for that though if you weren't shit scared of vaccines [/quote][/quote]


I have asked for evidence of boris being "half dead",and where we're the media reporting this? You keep going on about comparing covid to flu (which I have never claimed by the way!) Even when another poster states he was in intensive care as a precaution,you still say he was at deaths door
provide us with at least a shred of evidence, from either the press or tv,it should be easy to find.that say what you are proffesing you mention . there were people on phone ins being" concerned" which may be true,as this virus can kill,but so can flu.
It's plainly obvious,that this virus has you shitting yourself,and it seems to bother you a lot more than I. Yes it's dangerous,but life must go on,as it has through worse "pandemics" before now.
Lastly, you may well of had covid already,been completely symptom free,for all you know?? Same for all of us.. [/quote]


you only have to read the Warnock thread to see how anything that is said regarding covid is not accepted for what it is... some people hear or read and then exaggerate it in their minds , ineffect frightening themselves.. its as if they have been told to shit themselves, cant figure out why so make it up .. no doubt Boris was ill and had a rough time, but deaths door is pushing it ..
l[/quote]


He was in a bad way, but Kate Garroway's husband is in a really bad way, it is a dangerous virus, why do you think Countries all around the World are imposing strict restrictions and potentially damaging their economies, do they do that every year with flu?[/quote]


you are clinging to Boris and this womans husband....which if you step back speaks volumes..
most of the vocal posts supporting for the restrictions are based more often than not on an individual case and not on the broader aspects.. even if both die its just 2 people.. 2 amongst THREE HUNDRED THOUSAND UK deaths of all cause over this period.. ..most people dont directly know anyone who has died of it, and if they do its Bills grandfather who was 90 and dying anyway... the damage its doing to our long term well being both healthwise and economy wise can be seen everywhere yet no ill people... honestly id have expected something complete;ly different to have this effect.. i realise its not just here but that makes even less sense... Germany had a severe Flu epidemic just 2 years ago which killed more Germans than this has... where they had an incredible 9 million medically attended people with influenza related acute respitory illnesses... thats 30 people actually ill for every single covid positive { where 80% are either asymptomatic or have it mildly } further back.. Frances hong kong flu epidemic.. at one point half the French working population were off work ill... neither locked down... but id be far more understanding towards our lockdown if dai accross the road had died, a couple of relatives that were not already on deaths door had died and half those living in my street were actually ill... its simply not the case...[/quote]



He seems infatuated with the individual cases,yet calls anyone who dares to think differently "idiots,thickos" etc
Hong Kong flu (and a fair few on here loved through it) killed around 35,000 in this country,yet no masks,no restrictions,and certainly no "lockdown" I don't recall having time off school during that Time either
The figures are skewed at best,twisted at worst,so are unbelievable to me,and have been for some time,and I do not wish to belittle those who have lost relatives to this virus,as any death is sad.
I've looked myself for evidence that backs blubina's claim that boris was " half dead" and cannot find anything of the sort?
I'm with you ragas if it were my relatives who were fit (on the outside at least!) Catching it and dying, and there were cases all around me,in the street I live etc,I would be a little more concerned than as is!!
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i was in primary school and have zero recollections of any restrictions , daily bulletins or it being a topic of concern.. pretty sure mr thicko idiot lived through it too. probably doesnt remember it because non of us do... yet 35k dead ? makes you think...or should do..
as for Boris.. ..its not i went to work today and a third of the workforce were ill, or 3 people in my street died yesterday.... its someone was in ICU 5 months ago..

The massive overreaction has been to lock down those who face no danger from this virus. Only those in the vulnerable groups should have been locked down and the massive resources wasted on paying people to stay at home should have been diverted and used to shield the vulnerable instead whilst all healthy people should have been allowed to continue with their lives.

Boris was fucked with it, she saved due to his status and the best care in the country, Kate Garraways husband is in a bad way, I don’t think either had serious health issues or lung problems ?

Some people are underestimating it, and people comparing it to flu is ridiculous.

The average age of those who have died is 82. That is taking all the population into consideration not just two examples. As for the two examples you have quoted Boris was 55 and grossly overweight (that would be a vulnerable group) and Dreck Draper was 53 years of age and again overweight, but despite this neither have died.

It is not ridiculous to point out that a respiratory illness is different to an influencer illness. A respiratory virus will in 95% of cases kill over 80's or those with suppressed immune systems due to other medical conditions. Influencer affects and kills all ages like the Spanish Flu did.

My point is valid in that those who were healthy and young should have been allowed to continue with their lives whilst those who were considered vulnerable to a respiratory decease should have been shielded.

It is absolutely ridiculous to compare COVID 19 with flu, if Draper or Boris caught flu they would have spent two days in bed and three days at home, not be half dead in hospital Intensive care, talk sense!

Draper and Boris are the same size as half the Country, flu does not kill fit fat 50 year olds l!!!

What a load of tosh!! I suggest people check their memories! It was widely reported at the time of his hospital stay"at no stage was the prime minister on a ventilator " and only recieved added oxygen to aid his breathing, where are these reports saying he was half dead?? The nearest thought of him being seriously ill,was his girlfriend saying they had some dark days during his stay! It was reported he went into intensive care"as a precaution " and in my belief,because of who he is,any other mortal would have to wait until necessary, to receive intensive care,these beds are only for people requiring intensive treatment,or are people suggesting
That the reports we were fed were deliberately hiding how seriously ill he was??

Boris was in a bad way and in intensive care, how about Draper?

Do you honestly think either would have been worse with flu

I've had it at least five times once in my fifties, 2 days in bed because due to the fever and temperature swings then take it easy for a few days that's it, Covid - 19 offers a far greater chance of a bad reaction.

If you had to catch one or other are you telling me you would rather catch Covid -19 to avoid having flu?[/quote]





ICU was precautionary ..christ it was said enough..
no you cant compare, flu kills millions every year.. and kills younger.
the lemsip max sums it up for quite a few though. maybe if the big evil media giant or even doctor Hilary tells you differently you can shit yourself over flu too..[/quote]


Ha ha I'd been fine if I had covid, but it is a much more serious virus than flue, you could have a vaccine for that though if you weren't shit scared of vaccines [/quote][/quote]


I have asked for evidence of boris being "half dead",and where we're the media reporting this? You keep going on about comparing covid to flu (which I have never claimed by the way!) Even when another poster states he was in intensive care as a precaution,you still say he was at deaths door
provide us with at least a shred of evidence, from either the press or tv,it should be easy to find.that say what you are proffesing you mention . there were people on phone ins being" concerned" which may be true,as this virus can kill,but so can flu.
It's plainly obvious,that this virus has you shitting yourself,and it seems to bother you a lot more than I. Yes it's dangerous,but life must go on,as it has through worse "pandemics" before now.
Lastly, you may well of had covid already,been completely symptom free,for all you know?? Same for all of us.. [/quote]


you only have to read the Warnock thread to see how anything that is said regarding covid is not accepted for what it is... some people hear or read and then exaggerate it in their minds , ineffect frightening themselves.. its as if they have been told to shit themselves, cant figure out why so make it up .. no doubt Boris was ill and had a rough time, but deaths door is pushing it ..
l[/quote]


He was in a bad way, but Kate Garroway's husband is in a really bad way, it is a dangerous virus, why do you think Countries all around the World are imposing strict restrictions and potentially damaging their economies, do they do that every year with flu?[/quote]


you are clinging to Boris and this womans husband....which if you step back speaks volumes..
most of the vocal posts supporting for the restrictions are based more often than not on an individual case and not on the broader aspects.. even if both die its just 2 people.. 2 amongst THREE HUNDRED THOUSAND UK deaths of all cause over this period.. ..most people dont directly know anyone who has died of it, and if they do its Bills grandfather who was 90 and dying anyway... the damage its doing to our long term well being both healthwise and economy wise can be seen everywhere yet no ill people... honestly id have expected something complete;ly different to have this effect.. i realise its not just here but that makes even less sense... Germany had a severe Flu epidemic just 2 years ago which killed more Germans than this has... where they had an incredible 9 million medically attended people with influenza related acute respitory illnesses... thats 30 people actually ill for every single covid positive { where 80% are either asymptomatic or have it mildly } further back.. Frances hong kong flu epidemic.. at one point half the French working population were off work ill... neither locked down... but id be far more understanding towards our lockdown if dai accross the road had died, a couple of relatives that were not already on deaths door had died and half those living in my street were actually ill... its simply not the case...[/quote]



He seems infatuated with the individual cases,yet calls anyone who dares to think differently "idiots,thickos" etc
Hong Kong flu (and a fair few on here loved through it) killed around 35,000 in this country,yet no masks,no restrictions,and certainly no "lockdown" I don't recall having time off school during that Time either
The figures are skewed at best,twisted at worst,so are unbelievable to me,and have been for some time,and I do not wish to belittle those who have lost relatives to this virus,as any death is sad.
I've looked myself for evidence that backs blubina's claim that boris was " half dead" and cannot find anything of the sort?
I'm with you ragas if it were my relatives who were fit (on the outside at least!) Catching it and dying, and there were cases all around me,in the street I live etc,I would be a little more concerned than as is!!
[/quote]

Hong Kong flu killed 35,000 without a lockdown masks etc, Covid has killed many more than that in the first wave with masks distancing and a massive lockdown and only 8% of the Country has had it, good comparison but doesn't help your argument.

Imagine what would have happened without the lockdown and measures taken?

The massive overreaction has been to lock down those who face no danger from this virus. Only those in the vulnerable groups should have been locked down and the massive resources wasted on paying people to stay at home should have been diverted and used to shield the vulnerable instead whilst all healthy people should have been allowed to continue with their lives.

Boris was fucked with it, she saved due to his status and the best care in the country, Kate Garraways husband is in a bad way, I don’t think either had serious health issues or lung problems ?

Some people are underestimating it, and people comparing it to flu is ridiculous.

The average age of those who have died is 82. That is taking all the population into consideration not just two examples. As for the two examples you have quoted Boris was 55 and grossly overweight (that would be a vulnerable group) and Dreck Draper was 53 years of age and again overweight, but despite this neither have died.

It is not ridiculous to point out that a respiratory illness is different to an influencer illness. A respiratory virus will in 95% of cases kill over 80's or those with suppressed immune systems due to other medical conditions. Influencer affects and kills all ages like the Spanish Flu did.

My point is valid in that those who were healthy and young should have been allowed to continue with their lives whilst those who were considered vulnerable to a respiratory decease should have been shielded.

It is absolutely ridiculous to compare COVID 19 with flu, if Draper or Boris caught flu they would have spent two days in bed and three days at home, not be half dead in hospital Intensive care, talk sense!

Draper and Boris are the same size as half the Country, flu does not kill fit fat 50 year olds l!!!

What a load of tosh!! I suggest people check their memories! It was widely reported at the time of his hospital stay"at no stage was the prime minister on a ventilator " and only recieved added oxygen to aid his breathing, where are these reports saying he was half dead?? The nearest thought of him being seriously ill,was his girlfriend saying they had some dark days during his stay! It was reported he went into intensive care"as a precaution " and in my belief,because of who he is,any other mortal would have to wait until necessary, to receive intensive care,these beds are only for people requiring intensive treatment,or are people suggesting
That the reports we were fed were deliberately hiding how seriously ill he was??

Boris was in a bad way and in intensive care, how about Draper?

Do you honestly think either would have been worse with flu

I've had it at least five times once in my fifties, 2 days in bed because due to the fever and temperature swings then take it easy for a few days that's it, Covid - 19 offers a far greater chance of a bad reaction.

If you had to catch one or other are you telling me you would rather catch Covid -19 to avoid having flu?[/quote]





ICU was precautionary ..christ it was said enough..
no you cant compare, flu kills millions every year.. and kills younger.
the lemsip max sums it up for quite a few though. maybe if the big evil media giant or even doctor Hilary tells you differently you can shit yourself over flu too..[/quote]


Ha ha I'd been fine if I had covid, but it is a much more serious virus than flue, you could have a vaccine for that though if you weren't shit scared of vaccines [/quote][/quote]


I have asked for evidence of boris being "half dead",and where we're the media reporting this? You keep going on about comparing covid to flu (which I have never claimed by the way!) Even when another poster states he was in intensive care as a precaution,you still say he was at deaths door
provide us with at least a shred of evidence, from either the press or tv,it should be easy to find.that say what you are proffesing you mention . there were people on phone ins being" concerned" which may be true,as this virus can kill,but so can flu.
It's plainly obvious,that this virus has you shitting yourself,and it seems to bother you a lot more than I. Yes it's dangerous,but life must go on,as it has through worse "pandemics" before now.
Lastly, you may well of had covid already,been completely symptom free,for all you know?? Same for all of us.. [/quote]


you only have to read the Warnock thread to see how anything that is said regarding covid is not accepted for what it is... some people hear or read and then exaggerate it in their minds , ineffect frightening themselves.. its as if they have been told to shit themselves, cant figure out why so make it up .. no doubt Boris was ill and had a rough time, but deaths door is pushing it ..
l[/quote]


He was in a bad way, but Kate Garroway's husband is in a really bad way, it is a dangerous virus, why do you think Countries all around the World are imposing strict restrictions and potentially damaging their economies, do they do that every year with flu?[/quote]


you are clinging to Boris and this womans husband....which if you step back speaks volumes..
most of the vocal posts supporting for the restrictions are based more often than not on an individual case and not on the broader aspects.. even if both die its just 2 people.. 2 amongst THREE HUNDRED THOUSAND UK deaths of all cause over this period.. ..most people dont directly know anyone who has died of it, and if they do its Bills grandfather who was 90 and dying anyway... the damage its doing to our long term well being both healthwise and economy wise can be seen everywhere yet no ill people... honestly id have expected something complete;ly different to have this effect.. i realise its not just here but that makes even less sense... Germany had a severe Flu epidemic just 2 years ago which killed more Germans than this has... where they had an incredible 9 million medically attended people with influenza related acute respitory illnesses... thats 30 people actually ill for every single covid positive { where 80% are either asymptomatic or have it mildly } further back.. Frances hong kong flu epidemic.. at one point half the French working population were off work ill... neither locked down... but id be far more understanding towards our lockdown if dai accross the road had died, a couple of relatives that were not already on deaths door had died and half those living in my street were actually ill... its simply not the case...[/quote]



He seems infatuated with the individual cases,yet calls anyone who dares to think differently "idiots,thickos" etc
Hong Kong flu (and a fair few on here loved through it) killed around 35,000 in this country,yet no masks,no restrictions,and certainly no "lockdown" I don't recall having time off school during that Time either
The figures are skewed at best,twisted at worst,so are unbelievable to me,and have been for some time,and I do not wish to belittle those who have lost relatives to this virus,as any death is sad.
I've looked myself for evidence that backs blubina's claim that boris was " half dead" and cannot find anything of the sort?
I'm with you ragas if it were my relatives who were fit (on the outside at least!) Catching it and dying, and there were cases all around me,in the street I live etc,I would be a little more concerned than as is!!
[/quote]


Aslo you say all your neighbours arent catching it and dying from it, no shit, thats because it is a dangerous virus and the government and 90% of the rest of the World have had to make enforced lockdowns and harsh measures, if it was a less dangerous illness like Hong Kong flu which you are clinging on to they wouldn't need any measures.

You have different views and I haven't called you a thicko or an idioit, I did say there are loads of thickos about and the government have to give them guidance to try and keep the spread of the virus down and that is why they may need to lay it on a bit thick.

Vaccine will be here soon anyway and we will all be ok except for the people too shit scared to take them

The massive overreaction has been to lock down those who face no danger from this virus. Only those in the vulnerable groups should have been locked down and the massive resources wasted on paying people to stay at home should have been diverted and used to shield the vulnerable instead whilst all healthy people should have been allowed to continue with their lives.

Boris was fucked with it, she saved due to his status and the best care in the country, Kate Garraways husband is in a bad way, I don’t think either had serious health issues or lung problems ?

Some people are underestimating it, and people comparing it to flu is ridiculous.

The average age of those who have died is 82. That is taking all the population into consideration not just two examples. As for the two examples you have quoted Boris was 55 and grossly overweight (that would be a vulnerable group) and Dreck Draper was 53 years of age and again overweight, but despite this neither have died.

It is not ridiculous to point out that a respiratory illness is different to an influencer illness. A respiratory virus will in 95% of cases kill over 80's or those with suppressed immune systems due to other medical conditions. Influencer affects and kills all ages like the Spanish Flu did.

My point is valid in that those who were healthy and young should have been allowed to continue with their lives whilst those who were considered vulnerable to a respiratory decease should have been shielded.

It is absolutely ridiculous to compare COVID 19 with flu, if Draper or Boris caught flu they would have spent two days in bed and three days at home, not be half dead in hospital Intensive care, talk sense!

Draper and Boris are the same size as half the Country, flu does not kill fit fat 50 year olds l!!!

What a load of tosh!! I suggest people check their memories! It was widely reported at the time of his hospital stay"at no stage was the prime minister on a ventilator " and only recieved added oxygen to aid his breathing, where are these reports saying he was half dead?? The nearest thought of him being seriously ill,was his girlfriend saying they had some dark days during his stay! It was reported he went into intensive care"as a precaution " and in my belief,because of who he is,any other mortal would have to wait until necessary, to receive intensive care,these beds are only for people requiring intensive treatment,or are people suggesting
That the reports we were fed were deliberately hiding how seriously ill he was??

Boris was in a bad way and in intensive care, how about Draper?

Do you honestly think either would have been worse with flu

I've had it at least five times once in my fifties, 2 days in bed because due to the fever and temperature swings then take it easy for a few days that's it, Covid - 19 offers a far greater chance of a bad reaction.

If you had to catch one or other are you telling me you would rather catch Covid -19 to avoid having flu?

ICU was precautionary ..christ it was said enough..
no you cant compare, flu kills millions every year.. and kills younger.
the lemsip max sums it up for quite a few though. maybe if the big evil media giant or even doctor Hilary tells you differently you can shit yourself over flu too..[/quote]


Ha ha I'd been fine if I had covid, but it is a much more serious virus than flue, you could have a vaccine for that though if you weren't shit scared of vaccines [/quote][/quote]


I have asked for evidence of boris being "half dead",and where we're the media reporting this? You keep going on about comparing covid to flu (which I have never claimed by the way!) Even when another poster states he was in intensive care as a precaution,you still say he was at deaths door
provide us with at least a shred of evidence, from either the press or tv,it should be easy to find.that say what you are proffesing you mention . there were people on phone ins being" concerned" which may be true,as this virus can kill,but so can flu.
It's plainly obvious,that this virus has you shitting yourself,and it seems to bother you a lot more than I. Yes it's dangerous,but life must go on,as it has through worse "pandemics" before now.
Lastly, you may well of had covid already,been completely symptom free,for all you know?? Same for all of us.. [/quote]


you only have to read the Warnock thread to see how anything that is said regarding covid is not accepted for what it is... some people hear or read and then exaggerate it in their minds , ineffect frightening themselves.. its as if they have been told to shit themselves, cant figure out why so make it up .. no doubt Boris was ill and had a rough time, but deaths door is pushing it ..
l[/quote]


He was in a bad way, but Kate Garroway's husband is in a really bad way, it is a dangerous virus, why do you think Countries all around the World are imposing strict restrictions and potentially damaging their economies, do they do that every year with flu?[/quote]


you are clinging to Boris and this womans husband....which if you step back speaks volumes..
most of the vocal posts supporting for the restrictions are based more often than not on an individual case and not on the broader aspects.. even if both die its just 2 people.. 2 amongst THREE HUNDRED THOUSAND UK deaths of all cause over this period.. ..most people dont directly know anyone who has died of it, and if they do its Bills grandfather who was 90 and dying anyway... the damage its doing to our long term well being both healthwise and economy wise can be seen everywhere yet no ill people... honestly id have expected something complete;ly different to have this effect.. i realise its not just here but that makes even less sense... Germany had a severe Flu epidemic just 2 years ago which killed more Germans than this has... where they had an incredible 9 million medically attended people with influenza related acute respitory illnesses... thats 30 people actually ill for every single covid positive { where 80% are either asymptomatic or have it mildly } further back.. Frances hong kong flu epidemic.. at one point half the French working population were off work ill... neither locked down... but id be far more understanding towards our lockdown if dai accross the road had died, a couple of relatives that were not already on deaths door had died and half those living in my street were actually ill... its simply not the case...[/quote]



He seems infatuated with the individual cases,yet calls anyone who dares to think differently "idiots,thickos" etc
Hong Kong flu (and a fair few on here loved through it) killed around 35,000 in this country,yet no masks,no restrictions,and certainly no "lockdown" I don't recall having time off school during that Time either
The figures are skewed at best,twisted at worst,so are unbelievable to me,and have been for some time,and I do not wish to belittle those who have lost relatives to this virus,as any death is sad.
I've looked myself for evidence that backs blubina's claim that boris was " half dead" and cannot find anything of the sort?
I'm with you ragas if it were my relatives who were fit (on the outside at least!) Catching it and dying, and there were cases all around me,in the street I live etc,I would be a little more concerned than as is!!
[/quote]


i was in primary school and have zero recollections of any restrictions , daily bulletins or it being a topic of concern.. pretty sure mr thicko idiot lived through it too. probably doesnt remember it because non of us do... yet 35k dead ? makes you think...or should do..
as for Boris.. ..its not i went to work today and a third of the workforce were ill, or 3 people in my street died yesterday.... its someone was in ICU 5 months ago..[/quote]

Not as old as you too young to remember, but 35,000 unchecked so allowed throughout the whole population with no measures, so less than with first wave with a massive lockdown, good argument

Keep to the conspiracy stories on the web

As for the last sentence? wtf does that mean

The massive overreaction has been to lock down those who face no danger from this virus. Only those in the vulnerable groups should have been locked down and the massive resources wasted on paying people to stay at home should have been diverted and used to shield the vulnerable instead whilst all healthy people should have been allowed to continue with their lives.

Boris was fucked with it, she saved due to his status and the best care in the country, Kate Garraways husband is in a bad way, I don’t think either had serious health issues or lung problems ?

Some people are underestimating it, and people comparing it to flu is ridiculous.

The average age of those who have died is 82. That is taking all the population into consideration not just two examples. As for the two examples you have quoted Boris was 55 and grossly overweight (that would be a vulnerable group) and Dreck Draper was 53 years of age and again overweight, but despite this neither have died.

It is not ridiculous to point out that a respiratory illness is different to an influencer illness. A respiratory virus will in 95% of cases kill over 80's or those with suppressed immune systems due to other medical conditions. Influencer affects and kills all ages like the Spanish Flu did.

My point is valid in that those who were healthy and young should have been allowed to continue with their lives whilst those who were considered vulnerable to a respiratory decease should have been shielded.

It is absolutely ridiculous to compare COVID 19 with flu, if Draper or Boris caught flu they would have spent two days in bed and three days at home, not be half dead in hospital Intensive care, talk sense!

Draper and Boris are the same size as half the Country, flu does not kill fit fat 50 year olds l!!!

What a load of tosh!! I suggest people check their memories! It was widely reported at the time of his hospital stay"at no stage was the prime minister on a ventilator " and only recieved added oxygen to aid his breathing, where are these reports saying he was half dead?? The nearest thought of him being seriously ill,was his girlfriend saying they had some dark days during his stay! It was reported he went into intensive care"as a precaution " and in my belief,because of who he is,any other mortal would have to wait until necessary, to receive intensive care,these beds are only for people requiring intensive treatment,or are people suggesting
That the reports we were fed were deliberately hiding how seriously ill he was??

Boris was in a bad way and in intensive care, how about Draper?

Do you honestly think either would have been worse with flu

I've had it at least five times once in my fifties, 2 days in bed because due to the fever and temperature swings then take it easy for a few days that's it, Covid - 19 offers a far greater chance of a bad reaction.

If you had to catch one or other are you telling me you would rather catch Covid -19 to avoid having flu?

ICU was precautionary ..christ it was said enough..
no you cant compare, flu kills millions every year.. and kills younger.
the lemsip max sums it up for quite a few though. maybe if the big evil media giant or even doctor Hilary tells you differently you can shit yourself over flu too..

Ha ha I'd been fine if I had covid, but it is a much more serious virus than flue, you could have a vaccine for that though if you weren't shit scared of vaccines [/quote][/quote]


I have asked for evidence of boris being "half dead",and where we're the media reporting this? You keep going on about comparing covid to flu (which I have never claimed by the way!) Even when another poster states he was in intensive care as a precaution,you still say he was at deaths door
provide us with at least a shred of evidence, from either the press or tv,it should be easy to find.that say what you are proffesing you mention . there were people on phone ins being" concerned" which may be true,as this virus can kill,but so can flu.
It's plainly obvious,that this virus has you shitting yourself,and it seems to bother you a lot more than I. Yes it's dangerous,but life must go on,as it has through worse "pandemics" before now.
Lastly, you may well of had covid already,been completely symptom free,for all you know?? Same for all of us.. [/quote]


you only have to read the Warnock thread to see how anything that is said regarding covid is not accepted for what it is... some people hear or read and then exaggerate it in their minds , ineffect frightening themselves.. its as if they have been told to shit themselves, cant figure out why so make it up .. no doubt Boris was ill and had a rough time, but deaths door is pushing it ..
l[/quote]


He was in a bad way, but Kate Garroway's husband is in a really bad way, it is a dangerous virus, why do you think Countries all around the World are imposing strict restrictions and potentially damaging their economies, do they do that every year with flu?[/quote]


you are clinging to Boris and this womans husband....which if you step back speaks volumes..
most of the vocal posts supporting for the restrictions are based more often than not on an individual case and not on the broader aspects.. even if both die its just 2 people.. 2 amongst THREE HUNDRED THOUSAND UK deaths of all cause over this period.. ..most people dont directly know anyone who has died of it, and if they do its Bills grandfather who was 90 and dying anyway... the damage its doing to our long term well being both healthwise and economy wise can be seen everywhere yet no ill people... honestly id have expected something complete;ly different to have this effect.. i realise its not just here but that makes even less sense... Germany had a severe Flu epidemic just 2 years ago which killed more Germans than this has... where they had an incredible 9 million medically attended people with influenza related acute respitory illnesses... thats 30 people actually ill for every single covid positive { where 80% are either asymptomatic or have it mildly } further back.. Frances hong kong flu epidemic.. at one point half the French working population were off work ill... neither locked down... but id be far more understanding towards our lockdown if dai accross the road had died, a couple of relatives that were not already on deaths door had died and half those living in my street were actually ill... its simply not the case...[/quote]



He seems infatuated with the individual cases,yet calls anyone who dares to think differently "idiots,thickos" etc
Hong Kong flu (and a fair few on here loved through it) killed around 35,000 in this country,yet no masks,no restrictions,and certainly no "lockdown" I don't recall having time off school during that Time either
The figures are skewed at best,twisted at worst,so are unbelievable to me,and have been for some time,and I do not wish to belittle those who have lost relatives to this virus,as any death is sad.
I've looked myself for evidence that backs blubina's claim that boris was " half dead" and cannot find anything of the sort?
I'm with you ragas if it were my relatives who were fit (on the outside at least!) Catching it and dying, and there were cases all around me,in the street I live etc,I would be a little more concerned than as is!!
[/quote]


i was in primary school and have zero recollections of any restrictions , daily bulletins or it being a topic of concern.. pretty sure mr thicko idiot lived through it too. probably doesnt remember it because non of us do... yet 35k dead ? makes you think...or should do..
as for Boris.. ..its not i went to work today and a third of the workforce were ill, or 3 people in my street died yesterday.... its someone was in ICU 5 months ago..[/quote]

Not as old as you too young to remember, but 35,000 unchecked so allowed throughout the whole population with no measures, so less than with first wave with a massive lockdown, good argument

Keep to the conspiracy stories on the web

As for the last sentence? wtf does that mean [/quote]


ah right...lockdowns work ? yes its far more dangerous indoors than out { initially } ...in particular it stays on surfaces... but i think we should lockdown because the joneses locked down fast forward 3 months we are back to more dangerous indoors, you can gather outside in back gardens but not go to the toilet.. strange thing is 90% of UK deaths happened during the lockdown, same as Spain , Italy and France .. a large proportion were same household deaths.... but lockdown worked ? and of course thats why we are back in full lockdown now.. and why the countries closest to us that locked down the hardest like ourselves have the biggest numbers... our cases went up 300% the first week after locking down and deaths 600% coincidentally other lockdown countries experienced very similar rises...spooky that .. probably saved a few thousand people getting mild symptoms but made damn sure that if you had covid you would kill anyone at home with a weak immune system..

The massive overreaction has been to lock down those who face no danger from this virus. Only those in the vulnerable groups should have been locked down and the massive resources wasted on paying people to stay at home should have been diverted and used to shield the vulnerable instead whilst all healthy people should have been allowed to continue with their lives.

Boris was fucked with it, she saved due to his status and the best care in the country, Kate Garraways husband is in a bad way, I don’t think either had serious health issues or lung problems ?

Some people are underestimating it, and people comparing it to flu is ridiculous.

The average age of those who have died is 82. That is taking all the population into consideration not just two examples. As for the two examples you have quoted Boris was 55 and grossly overweight (that would be a vulnerable group) and Dreck Draper was 53 years of age and again overweight, but despite this neither have died.

It is not ridiculous to point out that a respiratory illness is different to an influencer illness. A respiratory virus will in 95% of cases kill over 80's or those with suppressed immune systems due to other medical conditions. Influencer affects and kills all ages like the Spanish Flu did.

My point is valid in that those who were healthy and young should have been allowed to continue with their lives whilst those who were considered vulnerable to a respiratory decease should have been shielded.

It is absolutely ridiculous to compare COVID 19 with flu, if Draper or Boris caught flu they would have spent two days in bed and three days at home, not be half dead in hospital Intensive care, talk sense!

Draper and Boris are the same size as half the Country, flu does not kill fit fat 50 year olds l!!!

What a load of tosh!! I suggest people check their memories! It was widely reported at the time of his hospital stay"at no stage was the prime minister on a ventilator " and only recieved added oxygen to aid his breathing, where are these reports saying he was half dead?? The nearest thought of him being seriously ill,was his girlfriend saying they had some dark days during his stay! It was reported he went into intensive care"as a precaution " and in my belief,because of who he is,any other mortal would have to wait until necessary, to receive intensive care,these beds are only for people requiring intensive treatment,or are people suggesting
That the reports we were fed were deliberately hiding how seriously ill he was??

Boris was in a bad way and in intensive care, how about Draper?

Do you honestly think either would have been worse with flu

I've had it at least five times once in my fifties, 2 days in bed because due to the fever and temperature swings then take it easy for a few days that's it, Covid - 19 offers a far greater chance of a bad reaction.

If you had to catch one or other are you telling me you would rather catch Covid -19 to avoid having flu?

ICU was precautionary ..christ it was said enough..
no you cant compare, flu kills millions every year.. and kills younger.
the lemsip max sums it up for quite a few though. maybe if the big evil media giant or even doctor Hilary tells you differently you can shit yourself over flu too..

Ha ha I'd been fine if I had covid, but it is a much more serious virus than flue, you could have a vaccine for that though if you weren't shit scared of vaccines

[/quote]


I have asked for evidence of boris being "half dead",and where we're the media reporting this? You keep going on about comparing covid to flu (which I have never claimed by the way!) Even when another poster states he was in intensive care as a precaution,you still say he was at deaths door
provide us with at least a shred of evidence, from either the press or tv,it should be easy to find.that say what you are proffesing you mention . there were people on phone ins being" concerned" which may be true,as this virus can kill,but so can flu.
It's plainly obvious,that this virus has you shitting yourself,and it seems to bother you a lot more than I. Yes it's dangerous,but life must go on,as it has through worse "pandemics" before now.
Lastly, you may well of had covid already,been completely symptom free,for all you know?? Same for all of us.. [/quote]


you only have to read the Warnock thread to see how anything that is said regarding covid is not accepted for what it is... some people hear or read and then exaggerate it in their minds , ineffect frightening themselves.. its as if they have been told to shit themselves, cant figure out why so make it up .. no doubt Boris was ill and had a rough time, but deaths door is pushing it ..
l[/quote]


He was in a bad way, but Kate Garroway's husband is in a really bad way, it is a dangerous virus, why do you think Countries all around the World are imposing strict restrictions and potentially damaging their economies, do they do that every year with flu?[/quote]


you are clinging to Boris and this womans husband....which if you step back speaks volumes..
most of the vocal posts supporting for the restrictions are based more often than not on an individual case and not on the broader aspects.. even if both die its just 2 people.. 2 amongst THREE HUNDRED THOUSAND UK deaths of all cause over this period.. ..most people dont directly know anyone who has died of it, and if they do its Bills grandfather who was 90 and dying anyway... the damage its doing to our long term well being both healthwise and economy wise can be seen everywhere yet no ill people... honestly id have expected something complete;ly different to have this effect.. i realise its not just here but that makes even less sense... Germany had a severe Flu epidemic just 2 years ago which killed more Germans than this has... where they had an incredible 9 million medically attended people with influenza related acute respitory illnesses... thats 30 people actually ill for every single covid positive { where 80% are either asymptomatic or have it mildly } further back.. Frances hong kong flu epidemic.. at one point half the French working population were off work ill... neither locked down... but id be far more understanding towards our lockdown if dai accross the road had died, a couple of relatives that were not already on deaths door had died and half those living in my street were actually ill... its simply not the case...[/quote]



He seems infatuated with the individual cases,yet calls anyone who dares to think differently "idiots,thickos" etc
Hong Kong flu (and a fair few on here loved through it) killed around 35,000 in this country,yet no masks,no restrictions,and certainly no "lockdown" I don't recall having time off school during that Time either
The figures are skewed at best,twisted at worst,so are unbelievable to me,and have been for some time,and I do not wish to belittle those who have lost relatives to this virus,as any death is sad.
I've looked myself for evidence that backs blubina's claim that boris was " half dead" and cannot find anything of the sort?
I'm with you ragas if it were my relatives who were fit (on the outside at least!) Catching it and dying, and there were cases all around me,in the street I live etc,I would be a little more concerned than as is!!
[/quote]


i was in primary school and have zero recollections of any restrictions , daily bulletins or it being a topic of concern.. pretty sure mr thicko idiot lived through it too. probably doesnt remember it because non of us do... yet 35k dead ? makes you think...or should do..
as for Boris.. ..its not i went to work today and a third of the workforce were ill, or 3 people in my street died yesterday.... its someone was in ICU 5 months ago..[/quote]

Not as old as you too young to remember, but 35,000 unchecked so allowed throughout the whole population with no measures, so less than with first wave with a massive lockdown, good argument

Keep to the conspiracy stories on the web

As for the last sentence? wtf does that mean [/quote]


ah right...lockdowns work ? yes its far more dangerous indoors than out { initially } ...in particular it stays on surfaces... but i think we should lockdown because the joneses locked down fast forward 3 months we are back to more dangerous indoors, you can gather outside in back gardens but not go to the toilet.. strange thing is 90% of UK deaths happened during the lockdown, same as Spain , Italy and France .. a large proportion were same household deaths.... but lockdown worked ? and of course thats why we are back in full lockdown now.. and why the countries closest to us that locked down the hardest like ourselves have the biggest numbers... our cases went up 300% the first week after locking down and deaths 600% coincidentally other lockdown countries experienced very similar rises...spooky that .. probably saved a few thousand people getting mild symptoms but made damn sure that if you had covid you would kill anyone at home with a weak immune system..[/quote]

Jesus this is hard work it's like trying to play chess with a chimp!

Ok it looks like you've gone back on the first statement about Hong Kong flu being as bad as covid and not needing a lockdown or positive measures so thats something!

I wouldn't have thought I would have to spell it out, when I said full lockdown that included many different measures, like hand washing distancing, not gathering together indoors, working from home, avoiding public transport, closing pubs, closing gym's, closing restaurants, further measures in airports like additional spacing and compulsary face masks, trying to ask family's friends not to go into each others houses or have parties, shops to deliver where possible, millions of people to be completely shielded and on and on and on.

Obviously there is a time lag in the measures, it took weeks for those to filter through but gradually hospital admission peaked and then deaths started to reduce, if you genuainly believe that those measures had absolutely no effect at all, I'm not sure what else I can say, just carry on believing the conspiracy shit on the internet

The massive overreaction has been to lock down those who face no danger from this virus. Only those in the vulnerable groups should have been locked down and the massive resources wasted on paying people to stay at home should have been diverted and used to shield the vulnerable instead whilst all healthy people should have been allowed to continue with their lives.

Boris was fucked with it, she saved due to his status and the best care in the country, Kate Garraways husband is in a bad way, I don’t think either had serious health issues or lung problems ?

Some people are underestimating it, and people comparing it to flu is ridiculous.

The average age of those who have died is 82. That is taking all the population into consideration not just two examples. As for the two examples you have quoted Boris was 55 and grossly overweight (that would be a vulnerable group) and Dreck Draper was 53 years of age and again overweight, but despite this neither have died.

It is not ridiculous to point out that a respiratory illness is different to an influencer illness. A respiratory virus will in 95% of cases kill over 80's or those with suppressed immune systems due to other medical conditions. Influencer affects and kills all ages like the Spanish Flu did.

My point is valid in that those who were healthy and young should have been allowed to continue with their lives whilst those who were considered vulnerable to a respiratory decease should have been shielded.

It is absolutely ridiculous to compare COVID 19 with flu, if Draper or Boris caught flu they would have spent two days in bed and three days at home, not be half dead in hospital Intensive care, talk sense!

Draper and Boris are the same size as half the Country, flu does not kill fit fat 50 year olds l!!!

What a load of tosh!! I suggest people check their memories! It was widely reported at the time of his hospital stay"at no stage was the prime minister on a ventilator " and only recieved added oxygen to aid his breathing, where are these reports saying he was half dead?? The nearest thought of him being seriously ill,was his girlfriend saying they had some dark days during his stay! It was reported he went into intensive care"as a precaution " and in my belief,because of who he is,any other mortal would have to wait until necessary, to receive intensive care,these beds are only for people requiring intensive treatment,or are people suggesting
That the reports we were fed were deliberately hiding how seriously ill he was??

Boris was in a bad way and in intensive care, how about Draper?

Do you honestly think either would have been worse with flu

I've had it at least five times once in my fifties, 2 days in bed because due to the fever and temperature swings then take it easy for a few days that's it, Covid - 19 offers a far greater chance of a bad reaction.

If you had to catch one or other are you telling me you would rather catch Covid -19 to avoid having flu?

ICU was precautionary ..christ it was said enough..
no you cant compare, flu kills millions every year.. and kills younger.
the lemsip max sums it up for quite a few though. maybe if the big evil media giant or even doctor Hilary tells you differently you can shit yourself over flu too..

Ha ha I'd been fine if I had covid, but it is a much more serious virus than flue, you could have a vaccine for that though if you weren't shit scared of vaccines

I have asked for evidence of boris being "half dead",and where we're the media reporting this? You keep going on about comparing covid to flu (which I have never claimed by the way!) Even when another poster states he was in intensive care as a precaution,you still say he was at deaths door
provide us with at least a shred of evidence, from either the press or tv,it should be easy to find.that say what you are proffesing you mention . there were people on phone ins being" concerned" which may be true,as this virus can kill,but so can flu.
It's plainly obvious,that this virus has you shitting yourself,and it seems to bother you a lot more than I. Yes it's dangerous,but life must go on,as it has through worse "pandemics" before now.
Lastly, you may well of had covid already,been completely symptom free,for all you know?? Same for all of us.. [/quote]


you only have to read the Warnock thread to see how anything that is said regarding covid is not accepted for what it is... some people hear or read and then exaggerate it in their minds , ineffect frightening themselves.. its as if they have been told to shit themselves, cant figure out why so make it up .. no doubt Boris was ill and had a rough time, but deaths door is pushing it ..
l[/quote]


He was in a bad way, but Kate Garroway's husband is in a really bad way, it is a dangerous virus, why do you think Countries all around the World are imposing strict restrictions and potentially damaging their economies, do they do that every year with flu?[/quote]


you are clinging to Boris and this womans husband....which if you step back speaks volumes..
most of the vocal posts supporting for the restrictions are based more often than not on an individual case and not on the broader aspects.. even if both die its just 2 people.. 2 amongst THREE HUNDRED THOUSAND UK deaths of all cause over this period.. ..most people dont directly know anyone who has died of it, and if they do its Bills grandfather who was 90 and dying anyway... the damage its doing to our long term well being both healthwise and economy wise can be seen everywhere yet no ill people... honestly id have expected something complete;ly different to have this effect.. i realise its not just here but that makes even less sense... Germany had a severe Flu epidemic just 2 years ago which killed more Germans than this has... where they had an incredible 9 million medically attended people with influenza related acute respitory illnesses... thats 30 people actually ill for every single covid positive { where 80% are either asymptomatic or have it mildly } further back.. Frances hong kong flu epidemic.. at one point half the French working population were off work ill... neither locked down... but id be far more understanding towards our lockdown if dai accross the road had died, a couple of relatives that were not already on deaths door had died and half those living in my street were actually ill... its simply not the case...[/quote]



He seems infatuated with the individual cases,yet calls anyone who dares to think differently "idiots,thickos" etc
Hong Kong flu (and a fair few on here loved through it) killed around 35,000 in this country,yet no masks,no restrictions,and certainly no "lockdown" I don't recall having time off school during that Time either
The figures are skewed at best,twisted at worst,so are unbelievable to me,and have been for some time,and I do not wish to belittle those who have lost relatives to this virus,as any death is sad.
I've looked myself for evidence that backs blubina's claim that boris was " half dead" and cannot find anything of the sort?
I'm with you ragas if it were my relatives who were fit (on the outside at least!) Catching it and dying, and there were cases all around me,in the street I live etc,I would be a little more concerned than as is!!
[/quote]


i was in primary school and have zero recollections of any restrictions , daily bulletins or it being a topic of concern.. pretty sure mr thicko idiot lived through it too. probably doesnt remember it because non of us do... yet 35k dead ? makes you think...or should do..
as for Boris.. ..its not i went to work today and a third of the workforce were ill, or 3 people in my street died yesterday.... its someone was in ICU 5 months ago..[/quote]

Not as old as you too young to remember, but 35,000 unchecked so allowed throughout the whole population with no measures, so less than with first wave with a massive lockdown, good argument

Keep to the conspiracy stories on the web

As for the last sentence? wtf does that mean [/quote]


ah right...lockdowns work ? yes its far more dangerous indoors than out { initially } ...in particular it stays on surfaces... but i think we should lockdown because the joneses locked down fast forward 3 months we are back to more dangerous indoors, you can gather outside in back gardens but not go to the toilet.. strange thing is 90% of UK deaths happened during the lockdown, same as Spain , Italy and France .. a large proportion were same household deaths.... but lockdown worked ? and of course thats why we are back in full lockdown now.. and why the countries closest to us that locked down the hardest like ourselves have the biggest numbers... our cases went up 300% the first week after locking down and deaths 600% coincidentally other lockdown countries experienced very similar rises...spooky that .. probably saved a few thousand people getting mild symptoms but made damn sure that if you had covid you would kill anyone at home with a weak immune system..[/quote]

Jesus this is hard work it's like trying to play chess with a chimp!

Ok it looks like you've gone back on the first statement about Hong Kong flu being as bad as covid and not needing a lockdown or positive measures so thats something!

I wouldn't have thought I would have to spell it out, when I said full lockdown that included many different measures, like hand washing distancing, not gathering together indoors, working from home, avoiding public transport, closing pubs, closing gym's, closing restaurants, further measures in airports like additional spacing and compulsary face masks, trying to ask family's friends not to go into each others houses or have parties, shops to deliver where possible, millions of people to be completely shielded and on and on and on.

Obviously there is a time lag in the measures, it took weeks for those to filter through but gradually hospital admission peaked and then deaths started to reduce, if you genuainly believe that those measures had absolutely no effect at all, I'm not sure what else I can say, just carry on believing the conspiracy shit on the internet [/quote]


they had a massive effect...40k dead ..

The massive overreaction has been to lock down those who face no danger from this virus. Only those in the vulnerable groups should have been locked down and the massive resources wasted on paying people to stay at home should have been diverted and used to shield the vulnerable instead whilst all healthy people should have been allowed to continue with their lives.

Boris was fucked with it, she saved due to his status and the best care in the country, Kate Garraways husband is in a bad way, I don’t think either had serious health issues or lung problems ?

Some people are underestimating it, and people comparing it to flu is ridiculous.

The average age of those who have died is 82. That is taking all the population into consideration not just two examples. As for the two examples you have quoted Boris was 55 and grossly overweight (that would be a vulnerable group) and Dreck Draper was 53 years of age and again overweight, but despite this neither have died.

It is not ridiculous to point out that a respiratory illness is different to an influencer illness. A respiratory virus will in 95% of cases kill over 80's or those with suppressed immune systems due to other medical conditions. Influencer affects and kills all ages like the Spanish Flu did.

My point is valid in that those who were healthy and young should have been allowed to continue with their lives whilst those who were considered vulnerable to a respiratory decease should have been shielded.

It is absolutely ridiculous to compare COVID 19 with flu, if Draper or Boris caught flu they would have spent two days in bed and three days at home, not be half dead in hospital Intensive care, talk sense!

Draper and Boris are the same size as half the Country, flu does not kill fit fat 50 year olds l!!!

What a load of tosh!! I suggest people check their memories! It was widely reported at the time of his hospital stay"at no stage was the prime minister on a ventilator " and only recieved added oxygen to aid his breathing, where are these reports saying he was half dead?? The nearest thought of him being seriously ill,was his girlfriend saying they had some dark days during his stay! It was reported he went into intensive care"as a precaution " and in my belief,because of who he is,any other mortal would have to wait until necessary, to receive intensive care,these beds are only for people requiring intensive treatment,or are people suggesting
That the reports we were fed were deliberately hiding how seriously ill he was??

Boris was in a bad way and in intensive care, how about Draper?

Do you honestly think either would have been worse with flu

I've had it at least five times once in my fifties, 2 days in bed because due to the fever and temperature swings then take it easy for a few days that's it, Covid - 19 offers a far greater chance of a bad reaction.

If you had to catch one or other are you telling me you would rather catch Covid -19 to avoid having flu?

ICU was precautionary ..christ it was said enough..
no you cant compare, flu kills millions every year.. and kills younger.
the lemsip max sums it up for quite a few though. maybe if the big evil media giant or even doctor Hilary tells you differently you can shit yourself over flu too..

Ha ha I'd been fine if I had covid, but it is a much more serious virus than flue, you could have a vaccine for that though if you weren't shit scared of vaccines

I have asked for evidence of boris being "half dead",and where we're the media reporting this? You keep going on about comparing covid to flu (which I have never claimed by the way!) Even when another poster states he was in intensive care as a precaution,you still say he was at deaths door
provide us with at least a shred of evidence, from either the press or tv,it should be easy to find.that say what you are proffesing you mention . there were people on phone ins being" concerned" which may be true,as this virus can kill,but so can flu.
It's plainly obvious,that this virus has you shitting yourself,and it seems to bother you a lot more than I. Yes it's dangerous,but life must go on,as it has through worse "pandemics" before now.
Lastly, you may well of had covid already,been completely symptom free,for all you know?? Same for all of us..

you only have to read the Warnock thread to see how anything that is said regarding covid is not accepted for what it is... some people hear or read and then exaggerate it in their minds , ineffect frightening themselves.. its as if they have been told to shit themselves, cant figure out why so make it up .. no doubt Boris was ill and had a rough time, but deaths door is pushing it ..
l[/quote]


He was in a bad way, but Kate Garroway's husband is in a really bad way, it is a dangerous virus, why do you think Countries all around the World are imposing strict restrictions and potentially damaging their economies, do they do that every year with flu?[/quote]


you are clinging to Boris and this womans husband....which if you step back speaks volumes..
most of the vocal posts supporting for the restrictions are based more often than not on an individual case and not on the broader aspects.. even if both die its just 2 people.. 2 amongst THREE HUNDRED THOUSAND UK deaths of all cause over this period.. ..most people dont directly know anyone who has died of it, and if they do its Bills grandfather who was 90 and dying anyway... the damage its doing to our long term well being both healthwise and economy wise can be seen everywhere yet no ill people... honestly id have expected something complete;ly different to have this effect.. i realise its not just here but that makes even less sense... Germany had a severe Flu epidemic just 2 years ago which killed more Germans than this has... where they had an incredible 9 million medically attended people with influenza related acute respitory illnesses... thats 30 people actually ill for every single covid positive { where 80% are either asymptomatic or have it mildly } further back.. Frances hong kong flu epidemic.. at one point half the French working population were off work ill... neither locked down... but id be far more understanding towards our lockdown if dai accross the road had died, a couple of relatives that were not already on deaths door had died and half those living in my street were actually ill... its simply not the case...[/quote]



He seems infatuated with the individual cases,yet calls anyone who dares to think differently "idiots,thickos" etc
Hong Kong flu (and a fair few on here loved through it) killed around 35,000 in this country,yet no masks,no restrictions,and certainly no "lockdown" I don't recall having time off school during that Time either
The figures are skewed at best,twisted at worst,so are unbelievable to me,and have been for some time,and I do not wish to belittle those who have lost relatives to this virus,as any death is sad.
I've looked myself for evidence that backs blubina's claim that boris was " half dead" and cannot find anything of the sort?
I'm with you ragas if it were my relatives who were fit (on the outside at least!) Catching it and dying, and there were cases all around me,in the street I live etc,I would be a little more concerned than as is!!
[/quote]


i was in primary school and have zero recollections of any restrictions , daily bulletins or it being a topic of concern.. pretty sure mr thicko idiot lived through it too. probably doesnt remember it because non of us do... yet 35k dead ? makes you think...or should do..
as for Boris.. ..its not i went to work today and a third of the workforce were ill, or 3 people in my street died yesterday.... its someone was in ICU 5 months ago..[/quote]

Not as old as you too young to remember, but 35,000 unchecked so allowed throughout the whole population with no measures, so less than with first wave with a massive lockdown, good argument

Keep to the conspiracy stories on the web

As for the last sentence? wtf does that mean [/quote]


ah right...lockdowns work ? yes its far more dangerous indoors than out { initially } ...in particular it stays on surfaces... but i think we should lockdown because the joneses locked down fast forward 3 months we are back to more dangerous indoors, you can gather outside in back gardens but not go to the toilet.. strange thing is 90% of UK deaths happened during the lockdown, same as Spain , Italy and France .. a large proportion were same household deaths.... but lockdown worked ? and of course thats why we are back in full lockdown now.. and why the countries closest to us that locked down the hardest like ourselves have the biggest numbers... our cases went up 300% the first week after locking down and deaths 600% coincidentally other lockdown countries experienced very similar rises...spooky that .. probably saved a few thousand people getting mild symptoms but made damn sure that if you had covid you would kill anyone at home with a weak immune system..[/quote]

Jesus this is hard work it's like trying to play chess with a chimp!

Ok it looks like you've gone back on the first statement about Hong Kong flu being as bad as covid and not needing a lockdown or positive measures so thats something!

I wouldn't have thought I would have to spell it out, when I said full lockdown that included many different measures, like hand washing distancing, not gathering together indoors, working from home, avoiding public transport, closing pubs, closing gym's, closing restaurants, further measures in airports like additional spacing and compulsary face masks, trying to ask family's friends not to go into each others houses or have parties, shops to deliver where possible, millions of people to be completely shielded and on and on and on.

Obviously there is a time lag in the measures, it took weeks for those to filter through but gradually hospital admission peaked and then deaths started to reduce, if you genuainly believe that those measures had absolutely no effect at all, I'm not sure what else I can say, just carry on believing the conspiracy shit on the internet [/quote]


they had a massive effect...40k dead ..[/quote]

Exactly so not comparable to your Hong Kong flu, insignificant comparison that didn't need a lockdown or massive change in peoples behaviour

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/health-52968523

the BBC link centres around the work of Neil Ferguson and his team... they wildly predicted 500k deaths which was a major factor in locking down.. so no surprise they are backing their own horse...there are less biased reports claiming the opposite....
wildly ? his figures would give us a bigger death toll than the USA , Mexico , India , and Brazil combined... and put us top of the deaths per million ..not just top but 12 times the amount of the country in 2nd spot..

swallow it all you like.. i have doubts

oh yes ..he has previous for over estimating. a few previous actually

https://analyticsindiamag.com/the-most- ... criticism/

the BBC link centres around the work of Neil Ferguson and his team... they wildly predicted 500k deaths which was a major factor in locking down.. so no surprise they are backing their own horse...there are less biased reports claiming the opposite....
wildly ? his figures would give us a bigger death toll than the USA , Mexico , India , and Brazil combined... and put us top of the deaths per million ..not just top but 12 times the amount of the country in 2nd spot..

swallow it all you like.. i have doubts

oh yes ..he has previous for over estimating. a few previous actually

https://analyticsindiamag.com/the-most- ... criticism/

I don't believe half the stuff BBC or most news organisations say, but I do believe that without distancing, hand washing, lockdowns and all the other restrictions many more people around the World would have died.

Agree to disagree