Wed Aug 19, 2020 4:11 pm
Forever Blue wrote:Escott1927 wrote:skidemin wrote:Bakedalasker wrote:skidemin wrote:Bakedalasker wrote:That I'm afraid that was one part of the whole disappointment of it all. I knew quite a lot like that who had followed the Bluebirds for many a decade. It did not help when a group tried to start up an opposition to it all only to have their meeting hijacked by the infamous Red Brigade led my adaptly nicknamed in this thread Bully Beef. Fortunately they were no where to be seen once the opposition got their act together under the banner of Bluebirds Unite. It was these guys who kept the hope up and should be given the total credit to why we are back in Blue.
Anyway lets get back on track with this thread where the OP is trying to glorify Tan because we have spent money on a striker in comparison to other clubs who have not spent anything but will rely on loanees. Of course this is the biggest weapon the pro Tan guys have got. The rumour is Tan has spent millions to keep us a float. For me I can't argue that Tan did not give Malky money to get to the Premier. Same can be said for when we started our premier campaign. That's were my credit will stop.
Tan brought in Ole who screwed it up big time. That was a Tan signing so he has to take responsibility of the money lost during that time. For the Malky signings we got most of our money back there except for Acorn. However, all that was lost was made up of the parachute payments many times over. Next Russel Slade came it and cut down the wage bill. Then came the masterpiece work of appointing Warnock who got us another shot at the Premier treasure chest. Only hiccup getting there was Madine but that would be small potatoes compared to what we were about to get from that chest again. Lets be honest but comapred to other clubs that have been promoted to the Premier our spending has been rarer small compared to the others. My question is how much has Tan recouped from the 2 adventures to the Premier?
pro tan guys...how can you be anything other than pro Tan.. or whoever the owner is come to that, its all a bit short sighted.. and the meeting ? in the grand scheme of things it was a small group... the overwhelming attitude of our fans was to accept the red for the investment not accept it out of fear.. the vast majority had no idea there was a meeting let alone what happened there..
Everything starts of small and that meeting was well documented. There are a number of members on here who knew about the meeting and a few of them went there too. I know quite a number that attended and the picture I got of the Red Brigade was to say the least very disappointing and shocking. They turned up for one thing and achieved their goal. That set the demonstrations back until Bluebirds Unite were born.
I went to that first meeting of Bluebirds Unite. The pub it was held in was ramsacked with Bluebird supporters. The press were there to interview us and I was one of them. The place was filled with all sorts of characters such as unsavoury characters who served time for the Chelsea game and well known respected high profile Cardiff fans. There was no sign of Bully Beef or his cronies. I wonder why?
For me that night was the start of us getting our identity back. This meeting happened just before the start of the Premier campaign. It would have happened before hand but we were asked not to start anything until we had secured promotion. We obliged as we wanted to attract the fan that was too much engrossed in the football. It was not ideal but we felt it was the best thing to do.
I will agree with you about the overwhelming fans statement. That was very hard to stomach but I knew they would turn once something started to go wrong and it did. For me this undoing of a wrong would have never happened if Bluebirds Unite was not there. They kept the pressure up as much as they could and took their chance when they could. You know this is how most opposition movements are born and how they grow.
i think its easy to assume lots of people know about something because those you talk to do... honestly mate first i heard about it was after the event on here.. and ive spoken to loads who have no idea what im on about if its brought up { far more were unaware of that meeting and what happened than actually were possibly are not even now aware }
as for opposition movements building . we are talking here about people that didnt even have to go out of their way to join these protests as the destination was the car park on match days.. anyway , initially like you i found it hard to stomach.. unlike you my attitude changed.. seemed to me our fanbase in general { which as a ST holder i was one of } had voted with their feet and accepted this { deal }. , we had not rioted or burned the ground down { both things i had said to me by fans of other clubs would happen had it been them } we hadnt even protested properly.. Tan had invested.. so WE had made our bed so lie in it...so as i see it, how can you blame one man when literally 10s of thousands just stood by ? and the majority of those chucking anger and blame now are those it took two years and some pretty dour football to even sing a song and join a march.. i get those that got embroiled in it and took it as a personal battle ..i dont get the thousands who now hate him but did not when things were hunky dory...
To be fair, I havnt heard an anti Tan song since we lost 2-0 away at Burton and cant recall the last time he was even mentioned in the pubs etc - which can only be a good thing. I think the majority of fans are happy with how the club is being run and those who still hold a grudge arnt outspoken about it now and it's only a small minority of fans who are.
My last comment on the whole episode, I don’t start anymore Anti Tan stuff and never actually talk about him anymore at matches , just concentrate on the football nowadays , it’s not me who starts the Tan topics to get people to bite.
I just concentrate on NEIL HARRIS & his capabilities and admitted I got him totally wrong![]()
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As to Tan, everyone is allowed their opinions, but it has be done to death so, I try my hardest to stay of his topics as I did this one and hopefully I can next season just talk about the manager and players .
But I saw so many things said in this which was wrong about the fans who stayed Blue, I had to put the facts in and from day one I never changed my stance and never will about the rebrand![]()
If there is new news on any board. Member of course I will put it out![]()