MUST WATCH - VT on next season & Apology for rebrand

For me the 'bully boys' standing on the side throwing stones still at those embracing the new Cardiff City era are better off staying home.

We have all moved on and we have made it back to the promised land. If you dont like it or still wont accept his apology then just walk away and let the rest of the fans enjoy

For me the 'bully boys' standing on the side throwing stones still at those embracing the new Cardiff City era are better off staying home.

We have all moved on and we have made it back to the promised land. If you dont like it or still wont accept his apology then just walk away and let the rest of the fans enjoy

Totally agree

For me the 'bully boys' standing on the side throwing stones still at those embracing the new Cardiff City era are better off staying home.

We have all moved on and we have made it back to the promised land. If you dont like it or still wont accept his apology then just walk away and let the rest of the fans enjoy

Makes me laugh how for some reason the people who hate Tan link it to supporting Malky (don't get that) but they think Malky should be forgiven for his mistake as everyone makes mistake but Tan shouldn't.

If you can't move on now you never will.

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Not his greatest fan but well done Tan for admitting you made a mistake, it is now time to draw a line under the Reband issue and we all need to pull together and hopefully we will do alot better in the Premier than last time

When Vincent Tan caused so much distress and pain, I hated the man with a passion.
I completely boycotted the club in the Championship season, the promotion to the Premier League and every second in the premiership. Changing the club's identity was a knife in the heart of many decent City fans.
After the club went up and down in red with that beermat, it didn't mean a lot to me...my passion was almost gone.

Now it is different...

City plays in it's rightful colours and with an acceptable badge again. Since the counter-rebrand, I follow my club again, not as excessive as it used to be. But there are reasons for it.

However, I (rightfully) slated Tan on here and everywhere else.

But now it is time to give him respect, as he publicly admitted his mistake, that he caused divisions in the club an fanbase. He admitted the rebrand was wrong...

Still not a big fan of the owner concept having football clubs... hope that will change one day...

In the meantime I say:

Thank you Mr.Tan...

for being honest and for investing money into the club. For being a bigger man than I thought you are. It takes a lot to say what you've said. Especially in Asia. Everybody makes mistakes, and you stand by it.

I missed 5 seasons as I walked away due to the rebrand and came back this season as I felt something was happening, and so it did and while I missed it I am so glad I'm back.

Vincent Tan is the best chairman/owner a club could have and I 100% forgave him and 100% back him. It's a pity some fans can't forgive as it's a short life.

When Vincent Tan caused so much distress and pain, I hated the man with a passion.
I completely boycotted the club in the Championship season, the promotion to the Premier League and every second in the premiership. Changing the club's identity was a knife in the heart of many decent City fans.
After the club went up and down in red with that beermat, it didn't mean a lot to me...my passion was almost gone.

Now it is different...

City plays in it's rightful colours and with an acceptable badge again. Since the counter-rebrand, I follow my club again, not as excessive as it used to be. But there are reasons for it.

However, I (rightfully) slated Tan on here and everywhere else.

But now it is time to give him respect, as he publicly admitted his mistake, that he caused divisions in the club an fanbase. He admitted the rebrand was wrong...

Still not a big fan of the owner concept having football clubs... hope that will change one day...

In the meantime I say:

Thank you Mr.Tan...

for being honest and for investing money into the club. For being a bigger man than I thought you are. It takes a lot to say what you've said. Especially in Asia. Everybody makes mistakes, and you stand by it.

Well said Hof.

It's funny how people still find a way to some how create a dig or divide on this.

It's funny how people still find a way to some how create a dig or divide on this.

I don't think it funny at all: I think it's tragic.

For a Billionaire to admit he made a mistake is something you will not see unless the shite has hit the fan, for those who still hold a grudge..."Feck off and support someone else"

Well said Tan.

As for the Lone Gunman, why pander to his ego?

Tan didn't actually apologise. I don't know why that is being debated. I saw the interview and read the text.

He did admit the mistake after thanking the fans before anyone else which was great. He also backed warnock which was great.

He didn't apologise though. That's just a fact.

He’s making valid points about your personal grudge about the rebrand. The bit about having a partner was in response to you saying about your personal life changing. Didn’t warrant the response it got. I maintain that is beneath you.

You believe they are valid points. I believe he's talking nonsense. However, I'm happy to debate the issues with anyone.

What I object to is personal attacks for no apparent reason, but I've grown used to them over the years. Tony's been at it for a long, long time. I'm surprised he doesn't remember my girlfriend, though. I've been with her for ages. She was on the board of the Supporters' Trust way back when Tony failed to get himself elected to it.

Doesn't the fact you find any remark about yourself indicate what I have sated, everything comes down to how it affects you not the club?

You called me a fat ugly fucker, who went with the rebrand and failed to get elected onto the Trust Board.

All of that is factually correct and I don't find any offence in it simply because I have no ego.

On the other hand I said you should read TLG's post if you want an example of someone who thinks it is all about them and not the club and by the way he seems to have found a girlfriend.

That to is factually correct but you take it completely out of context and coming storming on this board to "defend your self" from personal abuse

The difference is you have an ego and are totally in denial about your self obsession.

Finally I have no idea who your girlfriend was EIGHT BLOODY YEARS AGO and this another example of your self obsession in believing that other people should know everything about you

Tan didn't actually apologise. .....

..... He did admit the mistake. .....

..... He didn't apologise though. That's just a fact.

This has been debated constantly in the field of politics. When MP's make statements that are seen as Nonpologies or Fauxpologies.

"I'm sorry you felt that way" is an example of this.

It turns out that saying sorry is the easy part, it's the acceptance of responsibility or wrongdoing that MP's avoid.

Therefore Tans acceptance that he made mistakes far outweighs the requirement to say sorry.

He HAS said sorry by accepting the mistake. This is obvious when you turn it on its head, would you expect someone to say they made mistakes but are NOT sorry.

The acceptance of the mistake is an apology.

When Vincent Tan caused so much distress and pain, I hated the man with a passion.
I completely boycotted the club in the Championship season, the promotion to the Premier League and every second in the premiership. Changing the club's identity was a knife in the heart of many decent City fans.
After the club went up and down in red with that beermat, it didn't mean a lot to me...my passion was almost gone.

Now it is different...

City plays in it's rightful colours and with an acceptable badge again. Since the counter-rebrand, I follow my club again, not as excessive as it used to be. But there are reasons for it.

However, I (rightfully) slated Tan on here and everywhere else.

But now it is time to give him respect, as he publicly admitted his mistake, that he caused divisions in the club an fanbase. He admitted the rebrand was wrong...

Still not a big fan of the owner concept having football clubs... hope that will change one day...

In the meantime I say:

Thank you Mr.Tan...

for being honest and for investing money into the club. For being a bigger man than I thought you are. It takes a lot to say what you've said. Especially in Asia. Everybody makes mistakes, and you stand by it.

Fair play that is one brilliant post and you played the rebrand out perfectly! Super fan the Hoff man

Tan didn't actually apologise. I don't know why that is being debated. I saw the interview and read the text.

He did admit the mistake after thanking the fans before anyone else which was great. He also backed warnock which was great.

He didn't apologise though. That's just a fact.

That is true but Tan could also say no-one has ever apologised to him for the abuse his elderly Mother received or the personal racial abuse he received.

It comes down to individual choice but personally I find it more sickening to think supporters would verbally abuse a woman in her 90's when compared to change the colour of a kit.

What Tan said is about as good as it gets as far as an apology is concerned so rather than worry about semantics we should draw a line under it and get on with the good times.

Tan didn't actually apologise. .....

..... He did admit the mistake. .....

..... He didn't apologise though. That's just a fact.

This has been debated constantly in the field of politics. When MP's make statements that are seen as Nonpologies or Fauxpologies.

"I'm sorry you felt that way" is an example of this.

It turns out that saying sorry is the easy part, it's the acceptance of responsibility or wrongdoing that MP's avoid.

Therefore Tans acceptance that he made mistakes far outweighs the requirement to say sorry.

He HAS said sorry by accepting the mistake. This is obvious when you turn it on its head, would you expect someone to say they made mistakes but are NOT sorry.

The acceptance of the mistake is an apology.

Lol. I see what you're saying Wayne but more importantly I saw what Tan said and it wasn't an apology. He did accept he made a mistake though which was big of him and he thanked the fans.

Also, he saved us from going bust and pumps heaps of his cash in. However, dress it up with as much fake news as you like, he did not say sorry.

Tan didn't actually apologise. I don't know why that is being debated. I saw the interview and read the text.

He did admit the mistake after thanking the fans before anyone else which was great. He also backed warnock which was great.

He didn't apologise though. That's just a fact.

That is true but Tan could also say no-one has ever apologised to him for the abuse his elderly Mother received or the personal racial abuse he received.

It comes down to individual choice but personally I find it more sickening to think supporters would verbally abuse a woman in her 90's when compared to change the colour of a kit.

What Tan said is about as good as it gets as far as an apology is concerned so rather than worry about semantics we should draw a line under it and get on with the good times.

What the actual f**k? Have some respect for me. I'd never abuse a 90 year old woman. If I did then I'd hang my head in shame and apologise.

If I admitted to doing it but didn't apologise would you draw a line under it and see it as an apology and move on?

Please don't mix my point of him not actually apologising with abusing old women.

I am not Tan's biggest fan but I did say in my post that it was big of him to admit his mistake and good of him to give us so much money.

Really don't know where to start on this.

Having been a ST holder fr 16 years, i didn't let go, yes like most hated the re brand, but it didn't stop me loving or supporting CCFC, or in fact going down spending my money!

How the hell would I be able to live life on a Saturday without going down the city? i just couldn't do it. As for Tan, listen we all know the decision to change our historic colours and bring in that beer mat badge were by far the worst decision in the clubs history, but for me since Choo has come in the club is totally different.

Let bygones be bygones and at least meet the club half way. I do miss some of the old guard who are staying away and i truly respect that, but after the last 2 years reorganising the clubs finances, doing what they have behind the scenes inc the appointment of Warnock, lets enjoy the moment and get back to being the fans I know we can be.

What does annoy me still, is the ones who still stay away, why? for what reason? ok I get it the whole saga upset a lot of people, but we've been back in our beloved blue for 3 years now, and you still stay away? why? surely if you love the club as much as some people preach, why stay away?

Throw away some pride and get your ass back! you know you want to.

Vincent Tan has made for me massive mistakes said some unpleasant stuff about the brand of ccfc and so changed it .
I hated the man with passion for it .when we got promotion last time i was there at the ground calling Tan all sorts i wasn't happy it felt so wrong .Then i helped to campaign to change us back to blue with many others.

That was then so for now I forgave Tan a long time ago for the greater good of ccfc but to be honest to come out say what he said takes a big man and it meant a lot to me personally.
To see him lofted in the air made it all worth it was a great moment and long may it continue
.
Tan deserves credit for sticking with us and changing things around so well done to him and thanks very much for a brilliant season hope we see more of him .

Great post ,tlg needs to move on ,I've heard loads of excuses over the years not to support Cardiff, but I could never turn my back on my hometown club because whoever is in charge it's my club

I agree .

Life is too short to turn your back on something that clearly means so much to you .

Tan didn't actually apologise. I don't know why that is being debated. I saw the interview and read the text.

He did admit the mistake after thanking the fans before anyone else which was great. He also backed warnock which was great.

He didn't apologise though. That's just a fact.

Well if someone admits quite freely that they have made a mistake, other than saying the word sorry, isn’t that an apology? It is to me and I accept it as such.
Well done Vincent Tan for admitting your very bad mistakes and being the bigger man for it. You never ever walked away when you could’ve quite easily, infact you kept bankrolling us. For me I have now totally moved on from those bad dark rebrand days and look forward to a very much blue future.
Thank you Mr Tan, total respect

Tan didn't actually apologise. .....

..... He did admit the mistake. .....

..... He didn't apologise though. That's just a fact.

This has been debated constantly in the field of politics. When MP's make statements that are seen as Nonpologies or Fauxpologies.

"I'm sorry you felt that way" is an example of this.

It turns out that saying sorry is the easy part, it's the acceptance of responsibility or wrongdoing that MP's avoid.

Therefore Tans acceptance that he made mistakes far outweighs the requirement to say sorry.

He HAS said sorry by accepting the mistake. This is obvious when you turn it on its head, would you expect someone to say they made mistakes but are NOT sorry.

The acceptance of the mistake is an apology.

Lol. I see what you're saying Wayne but more importantly I saw what Tan said and it wasn't an apology. He did accept he made a mistake though which was big of him and he thanked the fans.

Also, he saved us from going bust and pumps heaps of his cash in. However, dress it up with as much fake news as you like, he did not say sorry.

To admit you made a mistake is to admit you were wrong! Why anyone should be so pedantic about a word is baffling considering what as just happened, and guess if someone admitted they were wrong for doing something to you that won't be sufficient to apease you? Just say you never forgive tan and that sounds better than quibbling over a word

Tan didn't actually apologise. I don't know why that is being debated. I saw the interview and read the text.

He did admit the mistake after thanking the fans before anyone else which was great. He also backed warnock which was great.

He didn't apologise though. That's just a fact.

That is true but Tan could also say no-one has ever apologised to him for the abuse his elderly Mother received or the personal racial abuse he received.

It comes down to individual choice but personally I find it more sickening to think supporters would verbally abuse a woman in her 90's when compared to change the colour of a kit.

What Tan said is about as good as it gets as far as an apology is concerned so rather than worry about semantics we should draw a line under it and get on with the good times.

What the actual f**k? Have some respect for me. I'd never abuse a 90 year old woman. If I did then I'd hang my head in shame and apologise.

If I admitted to doing it but didn't apologise would you draw a line under it and see it as an apology and move on?

Please don't mix my point of him not actually apologising with abusing old women.

I am not Tan's biggest fan but I did say in my post that it was big of him to admit his mistake and good of him to give us so much money.

what an odd response

Tan didn't actually apologise. I don't know why that is being debated. I saw the interview and read the text.

He did admit the mistake after thanking the fans before anyone else which was great. He also backed warnock which was great.

He didn't apologise though. That's just a fact.

That is true but Tan could also say no-one has ever apologised to him for the abuse his elderly Mother received or the personal racial abuse he received.

It comes down to individual choice but personally I find it more sickening to think supporters would verbally abuse a woman in her 90's when compared to change the colour of a kit.

What Tan said is about as good as it gets as far as an apology is concerned so rather than worry about semantics we should draw a line under it and get on with the good times.

What the actual f**k? Have some respect for me. I'd never abuse a 90 year old woman. If I did then I'd hang my head in shame and apologise.

If I admitted to doing it but didn't apologise would you draw a line under it and see it as an apology and move on?

Please don't mix my point of him not actually apologising with abusing old women.

I am not Tan's biggest fan but I did say in my post that it was big of him to admit his mistake and good of him to give us so much money.

Pretty sure he wasn’t blaming you for that.

He’s making valid points about your personal grudge about the rebrand. The bit about having a partner was in response to you saying about your personal life changing. Didn’t warrant the response it got. I maintain that is beneath you.

You believe they are valid points. I believe he's talking nonsense. However, I'm happy to debate the issues with anyone.

What I object to is personal attacks for no apparent reason, but I've grown used to them over the years. Tony's been at it for a long, long time. I'm surprised he doesn't remember my girlfriend, though. I've been with her for ages. She was on the board of the Supporters' Trust way back when Tony failed to get himself elected to it.

Doesn't the fact you find any remark about yourself indicate what I have sated, everything comes down to how it affects you not the club?

You called me a fat ugly fucker, who went with the rebrand and failed to get elected onto the Trust Board.

All of that is factually correct and I don't find any offence in it simply because I have no ego.

On the other hand I said you should read TLG's post if you want an example of someone who thinks it is all about them and not the club and by the way he seems to have found a girlfriend.

That to is factually correct but you take it completely out of context and coming storming on this board to "defend your self" from personal abuse

The difference is you have an ego and are totally in denial about your self obsession.

Finally I have no idea who your girlfriend was EIGHT BLOODY YEARS AGO and this another example of your self obsession in believing that other people should know everything about you

Very weird Tony don’t sink. He’s beneath you with his insults.

I for one think you are an incredible poster and you didn’t go with the rebrand you were just sensible.

Reading through this thread got me thinking, due to choice of language and 'all about me' NPD type behaviour.

Has TLG ever appeared in the same photo as Roathy, if you get my drift? Hmmmm.

Reading through this thread got me thinking, due to choice of language and 'all about me' NPD type behaviour.

Has TLG ever appeared in the same photo as Roathy, if you get my drift? Hmmmm.

Pretty sure not one and the same but I can see what you are on about.