Thu Jan 26, 2017 5:09 pm
Well I have used this "Ghost Bus" several times a year for the last decade it only runs once a hour and every time it arrives there is a queue of people waiting for it, and considering how much a taxi to the city centre costs I can`t blame them.noisycat wrote:What about the bus that runs from Cardiff to Cardiff airport or the ghost bus as its known. Apparently it costs about £1.3million a year to run,with very few people using it.
Thu Jan 26, 2017 5:34 pm
I understand Cymraeg or Bretonic was spoken from Lands End to John O`Groats for millennia, but after numerous other clans came to our fair Island it was only the the people of lands now known as Wales continued to use it. Both sets of my Grand parents were subject to the "Welsh not" as quoted above do you think that was a nice fairy tale to tell their grandchild? The Welsh Language is on the rise with young people for last 15 years so I`m sorry that you think it`s a waste of money, but have you travelled West or North of the country of Wales, If you open your ears in these places you will hear the native language, there is a whole country outside Cardiff where indigenous people use Cymraeg as their first language it`s no myth, try going to the Eisteddfod you may actually enjoy our ancient culture even if you can`t understand a word of what`s being said. Since the Senedd has begun thousands more Teachers & Teachers assistance's have been employed reducing class sizes from pre 1997 times not to mention the millions spent on upgrading School buildings & facilities, without the Assembly pushing for these things I think a fraction of this spending would have reached Wales considering the Billions of Pounds of Objective One funding from the EU that helped make these things actually happen.Jock wrote:Bushy Eyebrows wrote:Give the Sennedd Law making powers equal to Scotland, Northern Ireland even Jersey & Isle of Mann have these powers as well their own Sterling notes. We will forever be a principality of the Saes if we roll over and give up on the Senedd. Just look of the state of of Infrastructure for Transport one Motorway, no Trams, no underground, if you want to travel to North Wales you have to tackle the ever winding A470 not to mention getting there by rail, even Aberystwyth you have to leave Wales by rail. The Assembly gets more grants from the EU for roads than Westminster. Westminster rearranged our history whilst abolishing our language via use of "Welsh Not" https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Welsh_Not. And they continue to brainwash us into being patriotic to a foreign Monarchy waving Union Jacks which do not even acknowledge any Welsh representation in its design. Most people think this guy is a Quack the establishment hate him,but you cannot deny he`s well read in his research always quoting the books and authors he mentions give him a whirl in Podcast way as he doesn`t use charts or texts https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8GOcttn4VwE FREE WALES
Abolishing your language, absolute rubbish the language you call Welsh was widely spoken in many parts of Britian but died out and was superseded by other languages. Currently Welsh is being forced down our throats on BBC Wales, a noisy minority want everyone in the Public Sector to learn it, schoolchildren forced to learn it and they aspire to 1,000,000 Welsh speakers by 2020.
Do you really think that's the best use of tax payers money, standards in English, Maths and Science have to be raised in Wales and should be prioritised long before an ancient language that will encourage no inward investment. This blinkered insular decisive thinking is holding Wales back.
Thu Jan 26, 2017 7:14 pm
Bushy Eyebrows wrote:I understand Cymraeg or Bretonic was spoken from Lands End to John O`Groats for millennia, but after numerous other clans came to our fair Island it was only the the people of lands now known as Wales continued to use it. Both sets of my Grand parents were subject to the "Welsh not" as quoted above do you think that was a nice fairy tale to tell their grandchild? The Welsh Language is on the rise with young people for last 15 years so I`m sorry that you think it`s a waste of money, but have you travelled West or North of the country of Wales, If you open your ears in these places you will hear the native language, there is a whole country outside Cardiff where indigenous people use Cymraeg as their first language it`s no myth, try going to the Eisteddfod you may actually enjoy our ancient culture even if you can`t understand a word of what`s being said. Since the Senedd has begun thousands more Teachers & Teachers assistance's have been employed reducing class sizes from pre 1997 times not to mention the millions spent on upgrading School buildings & facilities, without the Assembly pushing for these things I think a fraction of this spending would have reached Wales considering the Billions of Pounds of Objective One funding from the EU that helped make these things actually happen.Jock wrote:Bushy Eyebrows wrote:Give the Sennedd Law making powers equal to Scotland, Northern Ireland even Jersey & Isle of Mann have these powers as well their own Sterling notes. We will forever be a principality of the Saes if we roll over and give up on the Senedd. Just look of the state of of Infrastructure for Transport one Motorway, no Trams, no underground, if you want to travel to North Wales you have to tackle the ever winding A470 not to mention getting there by rail, even Aberystwyth you have to leave Wales by rail. The Assembly gets more grants from the EU for roads than Westminster. Westminster rearranged our history whilst abolishing our language via use of "Welsh Not" https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Welsh_Not. And they continue to brainwash us into being patriotic to a foreign Monarchy waving Union Jacks which do not even acknowledge any Welsh representation in its design. Most people think this guy is a Quack the establishment hate him,but you cannot deny he`s well read in his research always quoting the books and authors he mentions give him a whirl in Podcast way as he doesn`t use charts or texts https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8GOcttn4VwE FREE WALES
Abolishing your language, absolute rubbish the language you call Welsh was widely spoken in many parts of Britian but died out and was superseded by other languages. Currently Welsh is being forced down our throats on BBC Wales, a noisy minority want everyone in the Public Sector to learn it, schoolchildren forced to learn it and they aspire to 1,000,000 Welsh speakers by 2020.
Do you really think that's the best use of tax payers money, standards in English, Maths and Science have to be raised in Wales and should be prioritised long before an ancient language that will encourage no inward investment. This blinkered insular decisive thinking is holding Wales back.
Thu Jan 26, 2017 9:00 pm
Fri Jan 27, 2017 1:04 am
Fri Jan 27, 2017 2:07 am
Hi Steve my best suggestion is go watch a gig in Clwb Ifor Bach aka the "Welsh Clwb" now owned and preserved by the Singer Gryff Rhys, its always been hip to speak Welsh there, Gogs getting Babes with their secret dialect, it is not so noticeable these days but its my only tip to hear it spoken openly in Cardiff and you`ll get to see a few bands too, they do cover for all tastes if you check their listings.Steve Zodiak wrote:I thought the last official survey showed 11% of people living in Wales spoke fluent Welsh. While there may be a lot of Welsh speakers in Cardiff,I rarely hear it spoken when I am wandering aimlessly around the city centre.
Fri Jan 27, 2017 8:00 am
BlueGog wrote:Bushy Eyebrows wrote:I understand Cymraeg or Bretonic was spoken from Lands End to John O`Groats for millennia, but after numerous other clans came to our fair Island it was only the the people of lands now known as Wales continued to use it. Both sets of my Grand parents were subject to the "Welsh not" as quoted above do you think that was a nice fairy tale to tell their grandchild? The Welsh Language is on the rise with young people for last 15 years so I`m sorry that you think it`s a waste of money, but have you travelled West or North of the country of Wales, If you open your ears in these places you will hear the native language, there is a whole country outside Cardiff where indigenous people use Cymraeg as their first language it`s no myth, try going to the Eisteddfod you may actually enjoy our ancient culture even if you can`t understand a word of what`s being said. Since the Senedd has begun thousands more Teachers & Teachers assistance's have been employed reducing class sizes from pre 1997 times not to mention the millions spent on upgrading School buildings & facilities, without the Assembly pushing for these things I think a fraction of this spending would have reached Wales considering the Billions of Pounds of Objective One funding from the EU that helped make these things actually happen.Jock wrote:Bushy Eyebrows wrote:Give the Sennedd Law making powers equal to Scotland, Northern Ireland even Jersey & Isle of Mann have these powers as well their own Sterling notes. We will forever be a principality of the Saes if we roll over and give up on the Senedd. Just look of the state of of Infrastructure for Transport one Motorway, no Trams, no underground, if you want to travel to North Wales you have to tackle the ever winding A470 not to mention getting there by rail, even Aberystwyth you have to leave Wales by rail. The Assembly gets more grants from the EU for roads than Westminster. Westminster rearranged our history whilst abolishing our language via use of "Welsh Not" https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Welsh_Not. And they continue to brainwash us into being patriotic to a foreign Monarchy waving Union Jacks which do not even acknowledge any Welsh representation in its design. Most people think this guy is a Quack the establishment hate him,but you cannot deny he`s well read in his research always quoting the books and authors he mentions give him a whirl in Podcast way as he doesn`t use charts or texts https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8GOcttn4VwE FREE WALES
Abolishing your language, absolute rubbish the language you call Welsh was widely spoken in many parts of Britian but died out and was superseded by other languages. Currently Welsh is being forced down our throats on BBC Wales, a noisy minority want everyone in the Public Sector to learn it, schoolchildren forced to learn it and they aspire to 1,000,000 Welsh speakers by 2020.
Do you really think that's the best use of tax payers money, standards in English, Maths and Science have to be raised in Wales and should be prioritised long before an ancient language that will encourage no inward investment. This blinkered insular decisive thinking is holding Wales back.
As Bushy Eyebrows says Welsh was spoken throughout the island of Britain. It was the saxon invaders that drove us west. Welsh was actually spoken in Scotland un until the 13th Century in the Strath Clyde region. Strath Clyde comes from the Welsh Ystrad Clud like Lanark comes from the Welsh Llanerch. Glasgow comes from the Welsh Glas (blue) Goed (wood). There are similar example throughout England like Dover from dwfr (water). The language was systematically culled by the English just like Gaelic in Scotland and Irish in Ireland both languages spoken throughout both regions. It's quite remarkable that Welsh is still spoken all when one considers haw it has been treated since our conquest. But it is still spoken and is making a major revival. 25% of the population of Cardiff now speak Welsh (it was less than 5% 30 years ago).
Fri Jan 27, 2017 10:08 am
Hi Jock yes I travelled to the Scottish Highlands and was impressed with the dual language signage on the roads,do you feel the same about that being a waste of the publics money?. The Crown Estate: This has a diverse range of holdings in the UK. As well as agricultural land and mineral rights, these include the seabed out to a 12 nautical mile limit. All profits from such holdings (including North Sea Oil and Electricity from onshore and offshore wind farms) are passed to the UK Treasury. Then you look at the water supply and electricity supply that Wales/Scotland gets nothing from.Most water consumed by Merseyside and the west Midlands including Birmingham comes from wales. Recently Severn Trent water sold to Anglian Water £5 billion worth of Welsh Water and Wales did not receive a penny. that shows the sort of money wales should be receiving for the colossal amounts of water that gets pumped from welsh lakes to England. So we do give more than our fair share to the UK Treasury , and the The Barnett formula doesn`t include any of the above Crown Estate profits to effect expenditure in UK so yes I am Blaming England a little for budget cuts to the NHS and education. I also blame school children`s over using social media on smart devices for lowering their attention span but recent GCSE results compared to England seem favourable, although as you say Science results are dipping here`s the latest results from the BBC http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-wales-37173969 . There has been a "Brain Drain" of Welsh Teachers to England for decades due to better wages, so I guess we are left with thousands more below par Teachers in upgraded schools thanks to the Assembly for this small blessing.Jock wrote:BlueGog wrote:Bushy Eyebrows wrote:I understand Cymraeg or Bretonic was spoken from Lands End to John O`Groats for millennia, but after numerous other clans came to our fair Island it was only the the people of lands now known as Wales continued to use it. Both sets of my Grand parents were subject to the "Welsh not" as quoted above do you think that was a nice fairy tale to tell their grandchild? The Welsh Language is on the rise with young people for last 15 years so I`m sorry that you think it`s a waste of money, but have you travelled West or North of the country of Wales, If you open your ears in these places you will hear the native language, there is a whole country outside Cardiff where indigenous people use Cymraeg as their first language it`s no myth, try going to the Eisteddfod you may actually enjoy our ancient culture even if you can`t understand a word of what`s being said. Since the Senedd has begun thousands more Teachers & Teachers assistance's have been employed reducing class sizes from pre 1997 times not to mention the millions spent on upgrading School buildings & facilities, without the Assembly pushing for these things I think a fraction of this spending would have reached Wales considering the Billions of Pounds of Objective One funding from the EU that helped make these things actually happen.Jock wrote:Bushy Eyebrows wrote:Give the Sennedd Law making powers equal to Scotland, Northern Ireland even Jersey & Isle of Mann have these powers as well their own Sterling notes. We will forever be a principality of the Saes if we roll over and give up on the Senedd. Just look of the state of of Infrastructure for Transport one Motorway, no Trams, no underground, if you want to travel to North Wales you have to tackle the ever winding A470 not to mention getting there by rail, even Aberystwyth you have to leave Wales by rail. The Assembly gets more grants from the EU for roads than Westminster. Westminster rearranged our history whilst abolishing our language via use of "Welsh Not" https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Welsh_Not. And they continue to brainwash us into being patriotic to a foreign Monarchy waving Union Jacks which do not even acknowledge any Welsh representation in its design. Most people think this guy is a Quack the establishment hate him,but you cannot deny he`s well read in his research always quoting the books and authors he mentions give him a whirl in Podcast way as he doesn`t use charts or texts https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8GOcttn4VwE FREE WALES
Abolishing your language, absolute rubbish the language you call Welsh was widely spoken in many parts of Britian but died out and was superseded by other languages. Currently Welsh is being forced down our throats on BBC Wales, a noisy minority want everyone in the Public Sector to learn it, schoolchildren forced to learn it and they aspire to 1,000,000 Welsh speakers by 2020.
Do you really think that's the best use of tax payers money, standards in English, Maths and Science have to be raised in Wales and should be prioritised long before an ancient language that will encourage no inward investment. This blinkered insular decisive thinking is holding Wales back.
As Bushy Eyebrows says Welsh was spoken throughout the island of Britain. It was the saxon invaders that drove us west. Welsh was actually spoken in Scotland un until the 13th Century in the Strath Clyde region. Strath Clyde comes from the Welsh Ystrad Clud like Lanark comes from the Welsh Llanerch. Glasgow comes from the Welsh Glas (blue) Goed (wood). There are similar example throughout England like Dover from dwfr (water). The language was systematically culled by the English just like Gaelic in Scotland and Irish in Ireland both languages spoken throughout both regions. It's quite remarkable that Welsh is still spoken all when one considers haw it has been treated since our conquest. But it is still spoken and is making a major revival. 25% of the population of Cardiff now speak Welsh (it was less than 5% 30 years ago).
Saxon invaders, culled by the English, dear oh dear move on and stop blaming England for all of the problems in Wales. Gaelic was a Highlands and Islands language in Scotland, it was never nationwide Scots Doric was the dominant language. A quarter of Cardiffians speak Welsh can't say I've noticed that. And the praise singing for the assembly above about thousands of extra teachers.....why are standards plummeting in maths, English and science in Welsh Schools then, are they employing the wrong people or is the whole system bolloxed. I have worked in both North and West Wales and met people whose first language was Welsh, I've no problem with that, my issue is the millions spent on trying to expand its use could IMO be far better spent on health, infrastructure, education etc.
Fri Jan 27, 2017 10:20 am
Bushy Eyebrows wrote:Hi Jock yes I travelled to the Scottish Highlands and was impressed with the dual language signage on the roads,do you feel the same about that being a waste of the publics money?. The Crown Estate: This has a diverse range of holdings in the UK. As well as agricultural land and mineral rights, these include the seabed out to a 12 nautical mile limit. All profits from such holdings (including North Sea Oil and Electricity from onshore and offshore wind farms) are passed to the UK Treasury. Then you look at the water supply and electricity supply that Wales/Scotland gets nothing from.Most water consumed by Merseyside and the west Midlands including Birmingham comes from wales. Recently Severn Trent water sold to Anglian Water £5 billion worth of Welsh Water and Wales did not receive a penny. that shows the sort of money wales should be receiving for the colossal amounts of water that gets pumped from welsh lakes to England. So we do give more than our fair share to the UK Treasury , and the The Barnett formula doesn`t include any of the above Crown Estate profits to effect expenditure in UK so yes I am Blaming England a little for budget cuts to the NHS and education. I also blame school children`s over using social media on smart devices for lowering their attention span but recent GCSE results compared to England seem favourable, although as you say Science results are dipping here`s the latest results from the BBC http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-wales-37173969 . There has been a "Brain Drain" of Welsh Teachers to England for decades due to better wages, so I guess we are left with thousands more below par Teachers in upgraded schools thanks to the Assembly for this small blessing.Jock wrote:BlueGog wrote:Bushy Eyebrows wrote:I understand Cymraeg or Bretonic was spoken from Lands End to John O`Groats for millennia, but after numerous other clans came to our fair Island it was only the the people of lands now known as Wales continued to use it. Both sets of my Grand parents were subject to the "Welsh not" as quoted above do you think that was a nice fairy tale to tell their grandchild? The Welsh Language is on the rise with young people for last 15 years so I`m sorry that you think it`s a waste of money, but have you travelled West or North of the country of Wales, If you open your ears in these places you will hear the native language, there is a whole country outside Cardiff where indigenous people use Cymraeg as their first language it`s no myth, try going to the Eisteddfod you may actually enjoy our ancient culture even if you can`t understand a word of what`s being said. Since the Senedd has begun thousands more Teachers & Teachers assistance's have been employed reducing class sizes from pre 1997 times not to mention the millions spent on upgrading School buildings & facilities, without the Assembly pushing for these things I think a fraction of this spending would have reached Wales considering the Billions of Pounds of Objective One funding from the EU that helped make these things actually happen.Jock wrote:Bushy Eyebrows wrote:Give the Sennedd Law making powers equal to Scotland, Northern Ireland even Jersey & Isle of Mann have these powers as well their own Sterling notes. We will forever be a principality of the Saes if we roll over and give up on the Senedd. Just look of the state of of Infrastructure for Transport one Motorway, no Trams, no underground, if you want to travel to North Wales you have to tackle the ever winding A470 not to mention getting there by rail, even Aberystwyth you have to leave Wales by rail. The Assembly gets more grants from the EU for roads than Westminster. Westminster rearranged our history whilst abolishing our language via use of "Welsh Not" https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Welsh_Not. And they continue to brainwash us into being patriotic to a foreign Monarchy waving Union Jacks which do not even acknowledge any Welsh representation in its design. Most people think this guy is a Quack the establishment hate him,but you cannot deny he`s well read in his research always quoting the books and authors he mentions give him a whirl in Podcast way as he doesn`t use charts or texts https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8GOcttn4VwE FREE WALES
Abolishing your language, absolute rubbish the language you call Welsh was widely spoken in many parts of Britian but died out and was superseded by other languages. Currently Welsh is being forced down our throats on BBC Wales, a noisy minority want everyone in the Public Sector to learn it, schoolchildren forced to learn it and they aspire to 1,000,000 Welsh speakers by 2020.
Do you really think that's the best use of tax payers money, standards in English, Maths and Science have to be raised in Wales and should be prioritised long before an ancient language that will encourage no inward investment. This blinkered insular decisive thinking is holding Wales back.
As Bushy Eyebrows says Welsh was spoken throughout the island of Britain. It was the saxon invaders that drove us west. Welsh was actually spoken in Scotland un until the 13th Century in the Strath Clyde region. Strath Clyde comes from the Welsh Ystrad Clud like Lanark comes from the Welsh Llanerch. Glasgow comes from the Welsh Glas (blue) Goed (wood). There are similar example throughout England like Dover from dwfr (water). The language was systematically culled by the English just like Gaelic in Scotland and Irish in Ireland both languages spoken throughout both regions. It's quite remarkable that Welsh is still spoken all when one considers haw it has been treated since our conquest. But it is still spoken and is making a major revival. 25% of the population of Cardiff now speak Welsh (it was less than 5% 30 years ago).
Saxon invaders, culled by the English, dear oh dear move on and stop blaming England for all of the problems in Wales. Gaelic was a Highlands and Islands language in Scotland, it was never nationwide Scots Doric was the dominant language. A quarter of Cardiffians speak Welsh can't say I've noticed that. And the praise singing for the assembly above about thousands of extra teachers.....why are standards plummeting in maths, English and science in Welsh Schools then, are they employing the wrong people or is the whole system bolloxed. I have worked in both North and West Wales and met people whose first language was Welsh, I've no problem with that, my issue is the millions spent on trying to expand its use could IMO be far better spent on health, infrastructure, education etc.
Fri Jan 27, 2017 10:47 am
Fri Jan 27, 2017 11:08 am
I have worked in Belfast and agree their Politics is complete different kettle of fish, the recent talk of a United Ireland post Brexit made me laugh imagine the Ulster Unionists losing all their Pomp & Power to be a third rate party in Dail that would never happen. I`ve also lived in Dublin for many years mainly during the "Celtic Tiger" period and my friends all race to Newry before the contractions even start so their child can claim dual citizenship and access to the NHS for life, but admittedly living in the Free State probably distorted my believe in the UK system and its history of unfair colonialism.Jock wrote:Bushy Eyebrows wrote:Hi Jock yes I travelled to the Scottish Highlands and was impressed with the dual language signage on the roads,do you feel the same about that being a waste of the publics money?. The Crown Estate: This has a diverse range of holdings in the UK. As well as agricultural land and mineral rights, these include the seabed out to a 12 nautical mile limit. All profits from such holdings (including North Sea Oil and Electricity from onshore and offshore wind farms) are passed to the UK Treasury. Then you look at the water supply and electricity supply that Wales/Scotland gets nothing from.Most water consumed by Merseyside and the west Midlands including Birmingham comes from wales. Recently Severn Trent water sold to Anglian Water £5 billion worth of Welsh Water and Wales did not receive a penny. that shows the sort of money wales should be receiving for the colossal amounts of water that gets pumped from welsh lakes to England. So we do give more than our fair share to the UK Treasury , and the The Barnett formula doesn`t include any of the above Crown Estate profits to effect expenditure in UK so yes I am Blaming England a little for budget cuts to the NHS and education. I also blame school children`s over using social media on smart devices for lowering their attention span but recent GCSE results compared to England seem favourable, although as you say Science results are dipping here`s the latest results from the BBC http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-wales-37173969 . There has been a "Brain Drain" of Welsh Teachers to England for decades due to better wages, so I guess we are left with thousands more below par Teachers in upgraded schools thanks to the Assembly for this small blessing.Jock wrote:BlueGog wrote:Bushy Eyebrows wrote:I understand Cymraeg or Bretonic was spoken from Lands End to John O`Groats for millennia, but after numerous other clans came to our fair Island it was only the the people of lands now known as Wales continued to use it. Both sets of my Grand parents were subject to the "Welsh not" as quoted above do you think that was a nice fairy tale to tell their grandchild? The Welsh Language is on the rise with young people for last 15 years so I`m sorry that you think it`s a waste of money, but have you travelled West or North of the country of Wales, If you open your ears in these places you will hear the native language, there is a whole country outside Cardiff where indigenous people use Cymraeg as their first language it`s no myth, try going to the Eisteddfod you may actually enjoy our ancient culture even if you can`t understand a word of what`s being said. Since the Senedd has begun thousands more Teachers & Teachers assistance's have been employed reducing class sizes from pre 1997 times not to mention the millions spent on upgrading School buildings & facilities, without the Assembly pushing for these things I think a fraction of this spending would have reached Wales considering the Billions of Pounds of Objective One funding from the EU that helped make these things actually happen.Jock wrote:Bushy Eyebrows wrote:Give the Sennedd Law making powers equal to Scotland, Northern Ireland even Jersey & Isle of Mann have these powers as well their own Sterling notes. We will forever be a principality of the Saes if we roll over and give up on the Senedd. Just look of the state of of Infrastructure for Transport one Motorway, no Trams, no underground, if you want to travel to North Wales you have to tackle the ever winding A470 not to mention getting there by rail, even Aberystwyth you have to leave Wales by rail. The Assembly gets more grants from the EU for roads than Westminster. Westminster rearranged our history whilst abolishing our language via use of "Welsh Not" https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Welsh_Not. And they continue to brainwash us into being patriotic to a foreign Monarchy waving Union Jacks which do not even acknowledge any Welsh representation in its design. Most people think this guy is a Quack the establishment hate him,but you cannot deny he`s well read in his research always quoting the books and authors he mentions give him a whirl in Podcast way as he doesn`t use charts or texts https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8GOcttn4VwE FREE WALES
Abolishing your language, absolute rubbish the language you call Welsh was widely spoken in many parts of Britian but died out and was superseded by other languages. Currently Welsh is being forced down our throats on BBC Wales, a noisy minority want everyone in the Public Sector to learn it, schoolchildren forced to learn it and they aspire to 1,000,000 Welsh speakers by 2020.
Do you really think that's the best use of tax payers money, standards in English, Maths and Science have to be raised in Wales and should be prioritised long before an ancient language that will encourage no inward investment. This blinkered insular decisive thinking is holding Wales back.
As Bushy Eyebrows says Welsh was spoken throughout the island of Britain. It was the saxon invaders that drove us west. Welsh was actually spoken in Scotland un until the 13th Century in the Strath Clyde region. Strath Clyde comes from the Welsh Ystrad Clud like Lanark comes from the Welsh Llanerch. Glasgow comes from the Welsh Glas (blue) Goed (wood). There are similar example throughout England like Dover from dwfr (water). The language was systematically culled by the English just like Gaelic in Scotland and Irish in Ireland both languages spoken throughout both regions. It's quite remarkable that Welsh is still spoken all when one considers haw it has been treated since our conquest. But it is still spoken and is making a major revival. 25% of the population of Cardiff now speak Welsh (it was less than 5% 30 years ago).
Saxon invaders, culled by the English, dear oh dear move on and stop blaming England for all of the problems in Wales. Gaelic was a Highlands and Islands language in Scotland, it was never nationwide Scots Doric was the dominant language. A quarter of Cardiffians speak Welsh can't say I've noticed that. And the praise singing for the assembly above about thousands of extra teachers.....why are standards plummeting in maths, English and science in Welsh Schools then, are they employing the wrong people or is the whole system bolloxed. I have worked in both North and West Wales and met people whose first language was Welsh, I've no problem with that, my issue is the millions spent on trying to expand its use could IMO be far better spent on health, infrastructure, education etc.
Interesting and thought provoking post. I've no problem with bi lingual signage in the Highlands I do however think it's a waste of money in GlasgowI also see through the supposed cultural angle and recognise it's simply a way to promote division in Sturgeons Scotland. I don't like many politicians and the less of the self serving corrupt clowns between me and Westminster the better, consequently I'd like to see the assembly and the Scottish Parliment shut down, NI is different they need somewhere to argue abou flags and parades
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Fri Jan 27, 2017 12:34 pm
Fri Jan 27, 2017 12:36 pm
Fri Jan 27, 2017 12:44 pm
rumpo kid wrote:Bushy, dear Bushy....forgiven, for you know not what you say..
Stopping English funding, Wales would be crippled within a month. No schools, hospitals, police - nothing, because no-one would be paid. The Senedd is a disaster for Wales, supported by a gog minority that no-one else in Wales has any time for, they slag off the English all year, then put out the begging bowl.
Clwb Ifor Bach is like being in an episode of Ivor the Engine - but without the laughs.
Fri Jan 27, 2017 1:24 pm
rumpo kid wrote:
Clwb Ifor Bach is like being in an episode of Ivor the Engine - but without the laughs.
Sat Jan 28, 2017 12:08 am
Hi Rumpo I wonder where you thought I mentioned stopping Westminster funding for Wales? FREE WALES that was a joke I`m sorry it was not as blatant or funny as your Ivor the Engine quip,great humour & a good opinion . This topic is about the reasons for and against the Senedd remaining to be in operation, judging by your Ivor witty reference was Wales being so much better pre 1997 really? And if so can you answer me why? By the way when did your Welsh based family last pay for a prescription?rumpo kid wrote:Bushy, dear Bushy....forgiven, for you know not what you say..
Stopping English funding, Wales would be crippled within a month. No schools, hospitals, police - nothing, because no-one would be paid. The Senedd is a disaster for Wales, supported by a gog minority that no-one else in Wales has any time for, they slag off the English all year, then put out the begging bowl.
Clwb Ifor Bach is like being in an episode of Ivor the Engine - but without the laughs.
Sat Jan 28, 2017 12:33 am
wez1927 wrote:rumpo kid wrote:Bushy, dear Bushy....forgiven, for you know not what you say..
Stopping English funding, Wales would be crippled within a month. No schools, hospitals, police - nothing, because no-one would be paid. The Senedd is a disaster for Wales, supported by a gog minority that no-one else in Wales has any time for, they slag off the English all year, then put out the begging bowl.
Clwb Ifor Bach is like being in an episode of Ivor the Engine - but without the laughs.
Sat Jan 28, 2017 6:55 am
Sat Jan 28, 2017 7:10 am
Cwmann_Bluebird wrote:Steve Zodiak wrote:They come across as a bunch of idiots playing politics while wasting our money on ridiculous projects. I'd scrap it tomorrow.
What are these 'ridiculous projects'?
Sat Jan 28, 2017 7:15 am
Cwmann_Bluebird wrote:Steve Zodiak wrote:They come across as a bunch of idiots playing politics while wasting our money on ridiculous projects. I'd scrap it tomorrow.
What are these 'ridiculous projects'?
Sat Jan 28, 2017 7:19 am
Cwmann_Bluebird wrote:Steve Zodiak wrote:They come across as a bunch of idiots playing politics while wasting our money on ridiculous projects. I'd scrap it tomorrow.
What are these 'ridiculous projects'?
Sat Jan 28, 2017 7:26 am
Cwmann_Bluebird wrote:Steve Zodiak wrote:They come across as a bunch of idiots playing politics while wasting our money on ridiculous projects. I'd scrap it tomorrow.
What are these 'ridiculous projects'?
Sat Jan 28, 2017 7:28 am
Cwmann_Bluebird wrote:Steve Zodiak wrote:They come across as a bunch of idiots playing politics while wasting our money on ridiculous projects. I'd scrap it tomorrow.
What are these 'ridiculous projects'?
Sat Jan 28, 2017 7:33 am
Cwmann_Bluebird wrote:Steve Zodiak wrote:They come across as a bunch of idiots playing politics while wasting our money on ridiculous projects. I'd scrap it tomorrow.
What are these 'ridiculous projects'?
Sat Jan 28, 2017 7:45 am
Cwmann_Bluebird wrote:Steve Zodiak wrote:They come across as a bunch of idiots playing politics while wasting our money on ridiculous projects. I'd scrap it tomorrow.
What are these 'ridiculous projects'?
Sat Jan 28, 2017 9:41 am
Cwmann_Bluebird wrote:wez1927 wrote:Magners wrote:Sprinkler systems must be installed in every, New Build House. No such rule in England.
All Landlords in Wales to do a course, get a License and register their properties. No such rule in England.
Lowest exam results in the U.K.
Longest waiting lists in the NHS.
In my opinion the Welsh Assembly have not improved anything for the people of Wales and is just a waste of money.
If there was a vote on it, I would vote to scrap it.
I would scrap it ,Jones are wood are useless
Leanne Wood is not part of the Welsh Government.
Sat Jan 28, 2017 11:13 am
Sat Jan 28, 2017 11:16 am
Magners wrote:Cwmann_Bluebird wrote:Steve Zodiak wrote:They come across as a bunch of idiots playing politics while wasting our money on ridiculous projects. I'd scrap it tomorrow.
What are these 'ridiculous projects'?
The Welsh government wasted tens of thousands of pounds on a Brexit legal challenge through the courts.
In my opinion this was wasted money especially as the people of Wales voted for Brexit.
Sat Jan 28, 2017 11:24 am
tcblue wrote:No Assembly= No Wales. To be frank, out culture is pretty much dead, so if we aren't a political entity, we should just give up.
A vote to scrap the Assembly so also include a vote to abolish the national teams too. This is because we would no longer be a nation.
Couple of things, road signs aren't devolved yet, so bilingual signage comes from Westminster. Also, those who insist on quoting the Assembly with the language need to understand that the initial Welsh language act was introduced by the Tories in 93 at Westminster. Also, S4C came from from Thatcher and Westminster in the 80s
People seem to forget the ref in 2011 which was won 65%. Just saying
People point out waste by the Assembly, but what about Westminster? When the Assembly wastes money it's in he thousands. It's wrong, but true. When Westminster wastes money, it's in the millions/billions.
Finally, if we scrap, what replaces it? Many English regions now have devolution themselves
Sat Jan 28, 2017 11:36 am
wez1927 wrote:Cwmann_Bluebird wrote:wez1927 wrote:Magners wrote:Sprinkler systems must be installed in every, New Build House. No such rule in England.
All Landlords in Wales to do a course, get a License and register their properties. No such rule in England.
Lowest exam results in the U.K.
Longest waiting lists in the NHS.
In my opinion the Welsh Assembly have not improved anything for the people of Wales and is just a waste of money.
If there was a vote on it, I would vote to scrap it.
I would scrap it ,Jones are wood are useless
Leanne Wood is not part of the Welsh Government.
So here and her partys vote isn5 deciding now labour don't have a majority?