Happy with Brexit?

Another remain big whopper

I 100% agree with you those were outright lies. The EU army has been under discussion for quite some time and it was an inevitable component of the cohesive EU. Many politicians were afraid to discuss it publicly because they feared it would not go down well with the general public. However it will have to form if Europe wishes to protect itself from Russian expansionism and looking ahead a number of other dangerous threats. Already Trump is threatening to cut back the US contribution to NATO and with less and less American support the only chance Europe has of defending itself properly is to pool it's defence budget and organise itself as a unit.

Spot on - and what exactly is so wrong with Europe having an army? At the rate our armed forces are being cut, we might well be grateful for it one day... And at 420 million Euros per year, it will only take one weeks worth of the contributions promised to the NHS by the Brexiteers.

Sound like the Nazi have taken over to me, a federal eu superstate headed by Germany sound familiar ?

The thing is Wez the whole idea of setting up the EU in those long distant days was to prevent those very same right wing nut jobs from ever having a chance to start war in Europe ever again, as well as a self-imposed constraint on German imperialism. If Britain had not decided to throw it's toys out of the pram and had played a sensible partnership role there would have been no fears of German hegemony and security in Europe would have been guaranteed. Fragmentation engenders dissent, fear, envy and conflict.

Another remain big whopper

I 100% agree with you those were outright lies. The EU army has been under discussion for quite some time and it was an inevitable component of the cohesive EU. Many politicians were afraid to discuss it publicly because they feared it would not go down well with the general public. However it will have to form if Europe wishes to protect itself from Russian expansionism and looking ahead a number of other dangerous threats. Already Trump is threatening to cut back the US contribution to NATO and with less and less American support the only chance Europe has of defending itself properly is to pool it's defence budget and organise itself as a unit.

Spot on - and what exactly is so wrong with Europe having an army? At the rate our armed forces are being cut, we might well be grateful for it one day... And at 420 million Euros per year, it will only take one weeks worth of the contributions promised to the NHS by the Brexiteers.

Sound like the Nazi have taken over to me, a federal eu superstate headed by Germany sound familiar ?

The thing is Wez the whole idea of setting up the EU in those long distant days was to prevent those very same right wing nut jobs from ever having a chance to start war in Europe ever again, as well as a self-imposed constraint on German imperialism. If Britain had not decided to throw it's toys out of the pram and had played a sensible partnership role there would have been no fears of German hegemony and security in Europe would have been guaranteed. Fragmentation engenders dissent, fear, envy and conflict.

Now it's run by left wing loonies who are just as bad ,sorry but a eu superstate will not work ,Germany has all the power once again most countries are fed up of it

Another remain big whopper

I 100% agree with you those were outright lies. The EU army has been under discussion for quite some time and it was an inevitable component of the cohesive EU. Many politicians were afraid to discuss it publicly because they feared it would not go down well with the general public. However it will have to form if Europe wishes to protect itself from Russian expansionism and looking ahead a number of other dangerous threats. Already Trump is threatening to cut back the US contribution to NATO and with less and less American support the only chance Europe has of defending itself properly is to pool it's defence budget and organise itself as a unit.

Spot on - and what exactly is so wrong with Europe having an army? At the rate our armed forces are being cut, we might well be grateful for it one day... And at 420 million Euros per year, it will only take one weeks worth of the contributions promised to the NHS by the Brexiteers.

Sound like the Nazi have taken over to me, a federal eu superstate headed by Germany sound familiar ?

The thing is Wez the whole idea of setting up the EU in those long distant days was to prevent those very same right wing nut jobs from ever having a chance to start war in Europe ever again, as well as a self-imposed constraint on German imperialism. If Britain had not decided to throw it's toys out of the pram and had played a sensible partnership role there would have been no fears of German hegemony and security in Europe would have been guaranteed. Fragmentation engenders dissent, fear, envy and conflict.

Now it's run by left wing loonies who are just as bad ,sorry but a eu superstate will not work ,Germany has all the power once again most countries are fed up of it

Not Nazis then I'm sure you'll agree

I noticed sterling yesterday finished at an 8 year high, it's amazing the news channels and national press never mentioned it last night.

I noticed sterling yesterday finished at an 8 year high, it's amazing the news channels and national press never mentioned it last night.

against what currency was that, the Kazak Tengi?- certainly wasn't the Dollar, the Euro or any other important one.

I noticed sterling yesterday finished at an 8 year high, it's amazing the news channels and national press never mentioned it last night.

against what currency was that, the Kazak Tengi?- certainly wasn't the Dollar, the Euro or any other important one.

I think it was actaully against the Matabele Gumbo Bead. To be fair though he is right, we won't hear anything positive for a while, but anything negative will be big news. Just as well the banking crisis happened a while back, guarantee if that had happened now Brexit would responsible.

I noticed sterling yesterday finished at an 8 year high, it's amazing the news channels and national press never mentioned it last night.

against what currency was that, the Kazak Tengi?- certainly wasn't the Dollar, the Euro or any other important one.

I think it was actaully against the Matabele Gumbo Bead. To be fair though he is right, we won't hear anything positive for a while, but anything negative will be big news. Just as well the banking crisis happened a while back, guarantee if that had happened now Brexit would responsible.

I suspect however that you are wrong regarding the news situation. As most of the newspapers are owned by Murdoch, it is quite likely that everything will still be the EU's fault in their eyes 20 years after we have left...

Regardless of being in and out, the money will be wasted so if people voted based on financial reasons such as taking over our ourselves and using it to improve Britain you are very silly and dull because we are still going to throw too much money at things that don't need the funding it does and other pointless things.

But yeah people are actually going trust these useless dimwits control the money and use it to improve Britain, truthfully I don't see what people living in Wales benefit in voting out.. because we will be letting 'them' control our country independently and invest in one place and that's England.. no-one really benefits voting out if you are from Wales.. the one thing I'll grant the EU is they highlighted problems in our own country and funded a lot of things which were needed where the tories couldn't highlight them and threw so much money into the NHS to make it look like they was doing a 'good' job.

See your entire post is all hypothetical yet your posting like it's fact. This is the problem. Nobody knows what will actually happen but there are people like yourself (doom and gloom merchants) giving out incorrect information.

How can you claim it is to the detriment of Wales when it hasn't happened.

There's difference between being a doom and gloom merchant and being a realist, I am just stating things people don't wanna hear because they know it's the truth.

If you truly believe we as Wales benefit from Brexit with that government you are very delusional, you truly believe they give a toss about us?

Regardless of being in and out, the money will be wasted so if people voted based on financial reasons such as taking over our ourselves and using it to improve Britain you are very silly and dull because we are still going to throw too much money at things that don't need the funding it does and other pointless things.

But yeah people are actually going trust these useless dimwits control the money and use it to improve Britain, truthfully I don't see what people living in Wales benefit in voting out.. because we will be letting 'them' control our country independently and invest in one place and that's England.. no-one really benefits voting out if you are from Wales.. the one thing I'll grant the EU is they highlighted problems in our own country and funded a lot of things which were needed where the tories couldn't highlight them and threw so much money into the NHS to make it look like they was doing a 'good' job.

See your entire post is all hypothetical yet your posting like it's fact. This is the problem. Nobody knows what will actually happen but there are people like yourself (doom and gloom merchants) giving out incorrect information.

How can you claim it is to the detriment of Wales when it hasn't happened.

There's difference between being a doom and gloom merchant and being a realist, I am just stating things people don't wanna hear because they know it's the truth.

If you truly believe we as Wales benefit from Brexit with that government you are very delusional, you truly believe they give a toss about us?

Your doing it again to quote youyou "they know it's the truth"

Your post is far from true from start to finish for a start your claiming Wales is worst off and you talk like brexit has happened. It hasn't happened and Wales is no worst off

Regardless of being in and out, the money will be wasted so if people voted based on financial reasons such as taking over our ourselves and using it to improve Britain you are very silly and dull because we are still going to throw too much money at things that don't need the funding it does and other pointless things.

But yeah people are actually going trust these useless dimwits control the money and use it to improve Britain, truthfully I don't see what people living in Wales benefit in voting out.. because we will be letting 'them' control our country independently and invest in one place and that's England.. no-one really benefits voting out if you are from Wales.. the one thing I'll grant the EU is they highlighted problems in our own country and funded a lot of things which were needed where the tories couldn't highlight them and threw so much money into the NHS to make it look like they was doing a 'good' job.

See your entire post is all hypothetical yet your posting like it's fact. This is the problem. Nobody knows what will actually happen but there are people like yourself (doom and gloom merchants) giving out incorrect information.

How can you claim it is to the detriment of Wales when it hasn't happened.

There's difference between being a doom and gloom merchant and being a realist, I am just stating things people don't wanna hear because they know it's the truth.

If you truly believe we as Wales benefit from Brexit with that government you are very delusional, you truly believe they give a toss about us?

Wales has already benefited from the vote ,especially port Talbot steal works Brexit has saved it 1000s of jobs saved already ,more investment in broughton these companies have invested more money as we will b3 going global

Hasnt happened yet but I am happy and still would vote leave.

I didnt vote on the grounds of immigration. I have no issue with people coming here to work and contribute to a vibrant society. Being out of the EU does not stop this. It will stop discrimination against non EU people. I DO think we need some control to stop or kick out those that would be a negative i.e. violent criminals.

On the side of wales being worse off. I am still not sure why this would be.

we get subsidies yes but the UK is a net contributor so we put in more than we take out. It should be the job our out MPs and AMs to be fighting to keep those subsidies surely? To what is best for the people of Wales? That should still leave some cash in the bank on what we dont spend. Then we can make the country extremely attractive to foreign investment free of the EU trying to standardise everything. Hell we can get out fishermen fishing again.

I dont want fights with the EU countries. I like them all! I want us to be friends and partners. I just dont want the EU parliament to have any legitimate control above my elected representatives. Lets plot our own destiny.

Regardless of being in and out, the money will be wasted so if people voted based on financial reasons such as taking over our ourselves and using it to improve Britain you are very silly and dull because we are still going to throw too much money at things that don't need the funding it does and other pointless things.

But yeah people are actually going trust these useless dimwits control the money and use it to improve Britain, truthfully I don't see what people living in Wales benefit in voting out.. because we will be letting 'them' control our country independently and invest in one place and that's England.. no-one really benefits voting out if you are from Wales.. the one thing I'll grant the EU is they highlighted problems in our own country and funded a lot of things which were needed where the tories couldn't highlight them and threw so much money into the NHS to make it look like they was doing a 'good' job.

See your entire post is all hypothetical yet your posting like it's fact. This is the problem. Nobody knows what will actually happen but there are people like yourself (doom and gloom merchants) giving out incorrect information.

How can you claim it is to the detriment of Wales when it hasn't happened.

There's difference between being a doom and gloom merchant and being a realist, I am just stating things people don't wanna hear because they know it's the truth.

If you truly believe we as Wales benefit from Brexit with that government you are very delusional, you truly believe they give a toss about us?

Wales has already benefited from the vote ,especially port Talbot steal works Brexit has saved it 1000s of jobs saved already ,more investment in broughton these companies have invested more money as we will b3 going global

Hmmm,Those reports that the government is allowing Tata to split the main business from the old British Steel pension fund thus making the company profitable again must be rubbish then and those thousands of steel workers that have paid into it all their lives must be jumping for joy.The actual true story of the company culture that is TATA is an interesting read and their efforts are to be commended.........though I haven't read anywhere where Tata have stated that Brexit has saved the day.The British taxpayer will probably at least partially underwrite the 15billion hole which is the original British steel pension fund leaving Tata to run the steel works.I don't suppose anyone currently or about to draw a pension from that fund are too happy.

Regardless of being in and out, the money will be wasted so if people voted based on financial reasons such as taking over our ourselves and using it to improve Britain you are very silly and dull because we are still going to throw too much money at things that don't need the funding it does and other pointless things.

But yeah people are actually going trust these useless dimwits control the money and use it to improve Britain, truthfully I don't see what people living in Wales benefit in voting out.. because we will be letting 'them' control our country independently and invest in one place and that's England.. no-one really benefits voting out if you are from Wales.. the one thing I'll grant the EU is they highlighted problems in our own country and funded a lot of things which were needed where the tories couldn't highlight them and threw so much money into the NHS to make it look like they was doing a 'good' job.

See your entire post is all hypothetical yet your posting like it's fact. This is the problem. Nobody knows what will actually happen but there are people like yourself (doom and gloom merchants) giving out incorrect information.

How can you claim it is to the detriment of Wales when it hasn't happened.

There's difference between being a doom and gloom merchant and being a realist, I am just stating things people don't wanna hear because they know it's the truth.

If you truly believe we as Wales benefit from Brexit with that government you are very delusional, you truly believe they give a toss about us?

Your doing it again to quote youyou "they know it's the truth"

Your post is far from true from start to finish for a start your claiming Wales is worst off and you talk like brexit has happened. It hasn't happened and Wales is no worst off

Honestly mate why you even blinding yourself from the truth, I am just being a realist and just predicting the obvious outcome.. if you want to hold hands and form a circle singing and dancing go ahead because it will all unfold.

Most of the politicians and parties who were screaming for people to vote stay were fooling all the public because they want to leave the EU but knew if they came out and said everyone needs to vote out the public would do the opposite because they think their clever and big going against the government, a fair proportion of people voted out just to say f**k you to the government and EU.

A bit strange how nobody really knows what the future holds, because no-one has ever left before. Should have said nobody other than the remain camp knows what will happen. They appear to know exactly what will happen. They have told us that Turkey will never join the EU so why is money being spent on all the talks which were temporarily suspended yesterday because of human rights issues. If they will never be part of the EU, what is the point of these continued discussions which are not being undertaken free of charge. Perhaps the remain people should tell the EU that they know the future and could save them a bob ot two by knocking these talks on the head permanently.

Regardless of being in and out, the money will be wasted so if people voted based on financial reasons such as taking over our ourselves and using it to improve Britain you are very silly and dull because we are still going to throw too much money at things that don't need the funding it does and other pointless things.

But yeah people are actually going trust these useless dimwits control the money and use it to improve Britain, truthfully I don't see what people living in Wales benefit in voting out.. because we will be letting 'them' control our country independently and invest in one place and that's England.. no-one really benefits voting out if you are from Wales.. the one thing I'll grant the EU is they highlighted problems in our own country and funded a lot of things which were needed where the tories couldn't highlight them and threw so much money into the NHS to make it look like they was doing a 'good' job.

See your entire post is all hypothetical yet your posting like it's fact. This is the problem. Nobody knows what will actually happen but there are people like yourself (doom and gloom merchants) giving out incorrect information.

How can you claim it is to the detriment of Wales when it hasn't happened.

There's difference between being a doom and gloom merchant and being a realist, I am just stating things people don't wanna hear because they know it's the truth.

If you truly believe we as Wales benefit from Brexit with that government you are very delusional, you truly believe they give a toss about us?

Your doing it again to quote youyou "they know it's the truth"

Your post is far from true from start to finish for a start your claiming Wales is worst off and you talk like brexit has happened. It hasn't happened and Wales is no worst off

Honestly mate why you even blinding yourself from the truth, I am just being a realist and just predicting the obvious outcome.. if you want to hold hands and form a circle singing and dancing go ahead because it will all unfold.

Most of the politicians and parties who were screaming for people to vote stay were fooling all the public because they want to leave the EU but knew if they came out and said everyone needs to vote out the public would do the opposite because they think their clever and big going against the government, a fair proportion of people voted out just to say f**k you to the government and EU.

I give up one minute your claiming facts, then your telling the truth and now your a realist.

I'll say it again everything you've claimed as a result of brexit hasn't happened therefore it's not the truth, it isn't fact and is all hypothetical.

As for you claiming to know the reasons as to why 17.5 million people voted out is farcical.

Brexit hasn't happened, you are in no position to be able to know exactly what will happen and you certainly don't know everyone's reasons for voting.

Two basic results of Brexit are that the exchange rate with the Euro for travel is now almost 1 : 1 and the inflation rate is due to rise to 5%, with a drastic rise in prices at shops. Are all those who voted for Brexit happy with this?
I have never been a supporter of the EU ( a neo-liberal organisation), nor did I want more power for Westminster.
However, I can see some dire consequences of that referendum.

I'm not happy with Brexit. I didn't vote to leave, but I hoped that the government would at least have a plan for managing the divorce. Seems it hasn't. There are at least 3 different (and contradictory) ideas of what it should be around the Cabinet table - and the 3 Brexidiots (Johnson, Davis and Fox) are making a difficult situation worse by the day. The UK won't be able to keep what it likes and ditch what it doesn't. We will either end up outside the single market and see the UK become poorer, or will have access and also be tied to most of the EU rules/laws that the Brexiteers hate (like Switzerland and Norway) - so free movement of people and compliance with EU standards and regulations but virtually no influence. It was a tabloid referendum campaign, full of misinformation, lies and hysteria, on both sides. In my view most people voted on the basis of emotion not on a rational assessment of whatever passed for facts. I think the majority will come to regret the decision - but it will happen.

Two basic results of Brexit are that the exchange rate with the Euro for travel is now almost 1 : 1 and the inflation rate is due to rise to 5%, with a drastic rise in prices at shops. Are all those who voted for Brexit happy with this?
I have never been a supporter of the EU ( a neo-liberal organisation), nor did I want more power for Westminster.
However, I can see some dire consequences of that referendum.

I'm not happy with Brexit. I didn't vote to leave, but I hoped that the government would at least have a plan for managing the divorce. Seems it hasn't. There are at least 3 different (and contradictory) ideas of what it should be around the Cabinet table - and the 3 Brexidiots (Johnson, Davis and Fox) are making a difficult situation worse by the day. The UK won't be able to keep what it likes and ditch what it doesn't. We will either end up outside the single market and see the UK become poorer, or will have access and also be tied to most of the EU rules/laws that the Brexiteers hate (like Switzerland and Norway) - so free movement of people and compliance with EU standards and regulations but virtually no influence. It was a tabloid referendum campaign, full of misinformation, lies and hysteria, on both sides. In my view most people voted on the basis of emotion not on a rational assessment of whatever passed for facts. I think the majority will come to regret the decision - but it will happen.

90% of your post is rubbish. Again remainers still claiming those who voted out were duped. Rubbish.

A bit strange how nobody really knows what the future holds, because no-one has ever left before. Should have said nobody other than the remain camp knows what will happen. They appear to know exactly what will happen. They have told us that Turkey will never join the EU so why is money being spent on all the talks which were temporarily suspended yesterday because of human rights issues. If they will never be part of the EU, what is the point of these continued discussions which are not being undertaken free of charge. Perhaps the remain people should tell the EU that they know the future and could save them a bob ot two by knocking these talks on the head permanently.

With the French historically voting against the Turks joining, I can't see it happening any time soon, especially with the French elections next year and the possible far right party of Marine Le Penn getting a big chunk of the vote. They might be talking about it, but that doesn't mean its going to happen.

A bit strange how nobody really knows what the future holds, because no-one has ever left before. Should have said nobody other than the remain camp knows what will happen. They appear to know exactly what will happen. They have told us that Turkey will never join the EU so why is money being spent on all the talks which were temporarily suspended yesterday because of human rights issues. If they will never be part of the EU, what is the point of these continued discussions which are not being undertaken free of charge. Perhaps the remain people should tell the EU that they know the future and could save them a bob ot two by knocking these talks on the head permanently.

With the French historically voting against the Turks joining, I can't see it happening any time soon, especially with the French elections next year and the possible far right party of Marine Le Penn getting a big chunk of the vote. They might be talking about it, but that doesn't mean its going to happen.

That's my point. If it's not going to happen why are the talks taking place. These people have not been in discussions for years and years free of charge. Somebody is having to pay for all this. Why are they continuing to discuss something that (apparently) will never happen? The truth is we cannot be certain that it will "never" happen, and if it does we have no idea how many Turks will use the open border policy to settle here.

Two basic results of Brexit are that the exchange rate with the Euro for travel is now almost 1 : 1 and the inflation rate is due to rise to 5%, with a drastic rise in prices at shops. Are all those who voted for Brexit happy with this?
I have never been a supporter of the EU ( a neo-liberal organisation), nor did I want more power for Westminster.
However, I can see some dire consequences of that referendum.

I'm not happy with Brexit. I didn't vote to leave, but I hoped that the government would at least have a plan for managing the divorce. Seems it hasn't. There are at least 3 different (and contradictory) ideas of what it should be around the Cabinet table - and the 3 Brexidiots (Johnson, Davis and Fox) are making a difficult situation worse by the day. The UK won't be able to keep what it likes and ditch what it doesn't. We will either end up outside the single market and see the UK become poorer, or will have access and also be tied to most of the EU rules/laws that the Brexiteers hate (like Switzerland and Norway) - so free movement of people and compliance with EU standards and regulations but virtually no influence. It was a tabloid referendum campaign, full of misinformation, lies and hysteria, on both sides. In my view most people voted on the basis of emotion not on a rational assessment of whatever passed for facts. I think the majority will come to regret the decision - but it will happen.

90% of your post is rubbish. Again remainers still claiming those who voted out were duped. Rubbish.

As a matter of interest, which 10% isn't?

Two basic results of Brexit are that the exchange rate with the Euro for travel is now almost 1 : 1 and the inflation rate is due to rise to 5%, with a drastic rise in prices at shops. Are all those who voted for Brexit happy with this?
I have never been a supporter of the EU ( a neo-liberal organisation), nor did I want more power for Westminster.
However, I can see some dire consequences of that referendum.

I'm not happy with Brexit. I didn't vote to leave, but I hoped that the government would at least have a plan for managing the divorce. Seems it hasn't. There are at least 3 different (and contradictory) ideas of what it should be around the Cabinet table - and the 3 Brexidiots (Johnson, Davis and Fox) are making a difficult situation worse by the day. The UK won't be able to keep what it likes and ditch what it doesn't. We will either end up outside the single market and see the UK become poorer, or will have access and also be tied to most of the EU rules/laws that the Brexiteers hate (like Switzerland and Norway) - so free movement of people and compliance with EU standards and regulations but virtually no influence. It was a tabloid referendum campaign, full of misinformation, lies and hysteria, on both sides. In my view most people voted on the basis of emotion not on a rational assessment of whatever passed for facts. I think the majority will come to regret the decision - but it will happen.

90% of your post is rubbish. Again remainers still claiming those who voted out were duped. Rubbish.

As a matter of interest, which 10% isn't?

When he says he's not happy.

The country has given the mandate to leave by a democratic vote
For all you that voted to remain you lost LIVE WITH IT
To the uk government you have been given a instruction by the majority of the electorate of the uk to leave the uk
NO watered down alternative but OUR Choice as printed on the ballot paper
LEAVE THE EU
If your struggling to understand this I would be glad to provide you with assistance in understanding this simple task

Two basic results of Brexit are that the exchange rate with the Euro for travel is now almost 1 : 1 and the inflation rate is due to rise to 5%, with a drastic rise in prices at shops. Are all those who voted for Brexit happy with this?
I have never been a supporter of the EU ( a neo-liberal organisation), nor did I want more power for Westminster.
However, I can see some dire consequences of that referendum.

I'm not happy with Brexit. I didn't vote to leave, but I hoped that the government would at least have a plan for managing the divorce. Seems it hasn't. There are at least 3 different (and contradictory) ideas of what it should be around the Cabinet table - and the 3 Brexidiots (Johnson, Davis and Fox) are making a difficult situation worse by the day. The UK won't be able to keep what it likes and ditch what it doesn't. We will either end up outside the single market and see the UK become poorer, or will have access and also be tied to most of the EU rules/laws that the Brexiteers hate (like Switzerland and Norway) - so free movement of people and compliance with EU standards and regulations but virtually no influence. It was a tabloid referendum campaign, full of misinformation, lies and hysteria, on both sides. In my view most people voted on the basis of emotion not on a rational assessment of whatever passed for facts. I think the majority will come to regret the decision - but it will happen.

90% of your post is rubbish. Again remainers still claiming those who voted out were duped. Rubbish.

As a matter of interest, which 10% isn't?

When he says he's not happy.

That's about 2%

The country has given the mandate to leave by a democratic vote
For all you that voted to remain you lost LIVE WITH IT
To the uk government you have been given a instruction by the majority of the electorate of the uk to leave the uk
NO watered down alternative but OUR Choice as printed on the ballot paper
LEAVE THE EU
If your struggling to understand this I would be glad to provide you with assistance in understanding this simple task

Hate to piss on your chips but:

The referendum was only ever advisory,fact.

The UK government has to get the best possible severance deal,anything otherwise would be a dereliction of duty to the people they represent.

No offence but I think its you that needs to understand the lawful process this requires.Like it or not it is anything but simple.Those that think it is should leave it to their betters.I voted remain but accept the outcome but I find it funny to think there are those who think you can just walk away on a set date.

The country has given the mandate to leave by a democratic vote
For all you that voted to remain you lost LIVE WITH IT
To the uk government you have been given a instruction by the majority of the electorate of the uk to leave the uk
NO watered down alternative but OUR Choice as printed on the ballot paper
LEAVE THE EU
If your struggling to understand this I would be glad to provide you with assistance in understanding this simple task

Hate to piss on your chips but:

The referendum was only ever advisory,fact.

The UK government has to get the best possible severance deal,anything otherwise would be a dereliction of duty to the people they represent.

No offence but I think its you that needs to understand the lawful process this requires.Like it or not it is anything but simple.Those that think it is should leave it to their betters.I voted remain but accept the outcome but I find it funny to think there are those who think you can just walk away on a set date.

I was just about to contact him to make an appointment for his assistance but fear I couldn't afford it what with the drop in the pound and all that.

Two basic results of Brexit are that the exchange rate with the Euro for travel is now almost 1 : 1 and the inflation rate is due to rise to 5%, with a drastic rise in prices at shops. Are all those who voted for Brexit happy with this?
I have never been a supporter of the EU ( a neo-liberal organisation), nor did I want more power for Westminster.
However, I can see some dire consequences of that referendum.

I'm not happy with Brexit. I didn't vote to leave, but I hoped that the government would at least have a plan for managing the divorce. Seems it hasn't. There are at least 3 different (and contradictory) ideas of what it should be around the Cabinet table - and the 3 Brexidiots (Johnson, Davis and Fox) are making a difficult situation worse by the day. The UK won't be able to keep what it likes and ditch what it doesn't. We will either end up outside the single market and see the UK become poorer, or will have access and also be tied to most of the EU rules/laws that the Brexiteers hate (like Switzerland and Norway) - so free movement of people and compliance with EU standards and regulations but virtually no influence. It was a tabloid referendum campaign, full of misinformation, lies and hysteria, on both sides. In my view most people voted on the basis of emotion not on a rational assessment of whatever passed for facts. I think the majority will come to regret the decision - but it will happen.

90% of your post is rubbish. Again remainers still claiming those who voted out were duped. Rubbish.

As a matter of interest, which 10% isn't?

When he says he's not happy.

That's about 2%

For what it's worth, 100% of his reply is rubbish. I think everyone was duped - not just leavers. And if anyone thinks there is a plan, I'd love to hear what it is!

The country has given the mandate to leave by a democratic vote
For all you that voted to remain you lost LIVE WITH IT
To the uk government you have been given a instruction by the majority of the electorate of the uk to leave the uk
NO watered down alternative but OUR Choice as printed on the ballot paper
LEAVE THE EU
If your struggling to understand this I would be glad to provide you with assistance in understanding this simple task

Hate to piss on your chips but:

The referendum was only ever advisory,fact.

The UK government has to get the best possible severance deal,anything otherwise would be a dereliction of duty to the people they represent.

No offence but I think its you that needs to understand the lawful process this requires.Like it or not it is anything but simple.Those that think it is should leave it to their betters.I voted remain but accept the outcome but I find it funny to think there are those who think you can just walk away on a set date.

I was just about to contact him to make an appointment for his assistance but fear I couldn't afford it what with the drop in the pound and all that.

Somebody tell him it wasn't a football match that someone won or lost

Two basic results of Brexit are that the exchange rate with the Euro for travel is now almost 1 : 1 and the inflation rate is due to rise to 5%, with a drastic rise in prices at shops. Are all those who voted for Brexit happy with this?
I have never been a supporter of the EU ( a neo-liberal organisation), nor did I want more power for Westminster.
However, I can see some dire consequences of that referendum.

I'm not happy with Brexit. I didn't vote to leave, but I hoped that the government would at least have a plan for managing the divorce. Seems it hasn't. There are at least 3 different (and contradictory) ideas of what it should be around the Cabinet table - and the 3 Brexidiots (Johnson, Davis and Fox) are making a difficult situation worse by the day. The UK won't be able to keep what it likes and ditch what it doesn't. We will either end up outside the single market and see the UK become poorer, or will have access and also be tied to most of the EU rules/laws that the Brexiteers hate (like Switzerland and Norway) - so free movement of people and compliance with EU standards and regulations but virtually no influence. It was a tabloid referendum campaign, full of misinformation, lies and hysteria, on both sides. In my view most people voted on the basis of emotion not on a rational assessment of whatever passed for facts. I think the majority will come to regret the decision - but it will happen.

90% of your post is rubbish. Again remainers still claiming those who voted out were duped. Rubbish.

As a matter of interest, which 10% isn't?

When he says he's not happy.

That's about 2%

For what it's worth, 100% of his reply is rubbish. I think everyone was duped - not just leavers. And if anyone thinks there is a plan, I'd love to hear what it is!

I liked your previous post, very well argued if I may say so Jon. My concern is how binary and, dare I say hate filled this debate is becoming. I think any attempt at reason is being squeezed out. Views are becoming entrenched and it's now a case of showing your colours; are you "Mods or Rockers" or "Bloods or Crips". I think any attempt at intelligent debate has vanished and we are now left with finger pointing. "Are you with us or against us?"

The only people who are really happy about Brexit is Fishermen, they will not have to travel so far without EU super trawlers in British Waters its going to be more cost productive if our waters are still well stocked. On the flipside exports will be effected, which could have knock effect for fish & chip shops reducing the price of a potion of UK sourced ingredients. This list of potential possibilities to come is endless for anyone to claim facts at this stage, prepare for a rollercoaster ahead.

The only people who are really happy about Brexit is Fishermen, they will not have to travel so far without EU super trawlers in British Waters its going to be more cost productive if our waters are still well stocked. On the flipside exports will be effected, which could have knock effect for fish & chip shops reducing the price of a potion of UK sourced ingredients. This list of potential possibilities to come is endless for anyone to claim facts at this stage, prepare for a rollercoaster ahead.

That's bullshit about fish being more expensive