Cardiff fans:Why are you not attending Bluebirds' games?

I did relent and go to the Fulham game and was bored stupid so haven't bothered since and am unlikely to in the near future.

Might be worth changing your user name then

doesn't stop me from wanting the team to do well - I just won't contribute to the circus that is Cardiff City under Vincent Tan anymore - or is that a bit complicated for you?

Did you go when we were top of the championship or in the premiership?

I was a season ticket holder for many years with my sons from well before we moved to the CCS - as mentioned my first game was in 1970. Yes, I went during those seasons and hated the season in the prem actually as it was like watching a different club to the one I had supported all my life. I hardly missed a game again last season but the enjoyment has gone I'm afraid and watching the club throw the fans hard earned money away on unwanted players fees, wages and pay offs was the last straw. I made the effort to go to Fulham but I no longer felt part of something that used to mean a lot to me but that doesn't mean I don't want the club to do well. Its just not a priority anymore.

Tan has been here for years and you went through the rebrand yet you stopped going this year, after changing back to blue but when we finished in our lowest position for years last season.

Of course it isn't anything to with success.

FFS why do people bullshit so much about it?

from what I understand you don't go to matches so why should it concern you so much why other people don't? You asked a question and you got an honest answer but it obviously wasn't the one you were hoping for.

He's the only person who doesn't go that's got a valid reason for not going anymore

The only person who works 154 hours a week and has a family

I did relent and go to the Fulham game and was bored stupid so haven't bothered since and am unlikely to in the near future.

Might be worth changing your user name then

doesn't stop me from wanting the team to do well - I just won't contribute to the circus that is Cardiff City under Vincent Tan anymore - or is that a bit complicated for you?

Did you go when we were top of the championship or in the premiership?

I was a season ticket holder for many years with my sons from well before we moved to the CCS - as mentioned my first game was in 1970. Yes, I went during those seasons and hated the season in the prem actually as it was like watching a different club to the one I had supported all my life. I hardly missed a game again last season but the enjoyment has gone I'm afraid and watching the club throw the fans hard earned money away on unwanted players fees, wages and pay offs was the last straw. I made the effort to go to Fulham but I no longer felt part of something that used to mean a lot to me but that doesn't mean I don't want the club to do well. Its just not a priority anymore.

Tan has been here for years and you went through the rebrand yet you stopped going this year, after changing back to blue but when we finished in our lowest position for years last season.

Of course it isn't anything to with success.

FFS why do people bullshit so much about it?

from what I understand you don't go to matches so why should it concern you so much why other people don't? You asked a question and you got an honest answer but it obviously wasn't the one you were hoping for.

He's the only person who doesn't go that's got a valid reason for not going anymore

The only person who works 154 hours a week and has a family

Can hardly be anything to do with our position can it. If he's been going down since 1970, he will have seen more downs than success. How many others were there during that period when at one stage we were struggling to stay in the league. Usually the people who make the loudest noises about glory hunters have only seen us playing in the higher leagues. Wonder how many of them will still be around if we end up back in the basement.

I did relent and go to the Fulham game and was bored stupid so haven't bothered since and am unlikely to in the near future.

Might be worth changing your user name then

doesn't stop me from wanting the team to do well - I just won't contribute to the circus that is Cardiff City under Vincent Tan anymore - or is that a bit complicated for you?

Did you go when we were top of the championship or in the premiership?

I was a season ticket holder for many years with my sons from well before we moved to the CCS - as mentioned my first game was in 1970. Yes, I went during those seasons and hated the season in the prem actually as it was like watching a different club to the one I had supported all my life. I hardly missed a game again last season but the enjoyment has gone I'm afraid and watching the club throw the fans hard earned money away on unwanted players fees, wages and pay offs was the last straw. I made the effort to go to Fulham but I no longer felt part of something that used to mean a lot to me but that doesn't mean I don't want the club to do well. Its just not a priority anymore.

Tan has been here for years and you went through the rebrand yet you stopped going this year, after changing back to blue but when we finished in our lowest position for years last season.

Of course it isn't anything to with success.

FFS why do people bullshit so much about it?

from what I understand you don't go to matches so why should it concern you so much why other people don't? You asked a question and you got an honest answer but it obviously wasn't the one you were hoping for.

He's the only person who doesn't go that's got a valid reason for not going anymore

The only person who works 154 hours a week and has a family

I did relent and go to the Fulham game and was bored stupid so haven't bothered since and am unlikely to in the near future.

Might be worth changing your user name then

doesn't stop me from wanting the team to do well - I just won't contribute to the circus that is Cardiff City under Vincent Tan anymore - or is that a bit complicated for you?

Did you go when we were top of the championship or in the premiership?

I was a season ticket holder for many years with my sons from well before we moved to the CCS - as mentioned my first game was in 1970. Yes, I went during those seasons and hated the season in the prem actually as it was like watching a different club to the one I had supported all my life. I hardly missed a game again last season but the enjoyment has gone I'm afraid and watching the club throw the fans hard earned money away on unwanted players fees, wages and pay offs was the last straw. I made the effort to go to Fulham but I no longer felt part of something that used to mean a lot to me but that doesn't mean I don't want the club to do well. Its just not a priority anymore.

Tan has been here for years and you went through the rebrand yet you stopped going this year, after changing back to blue but when we finished in our lowest position for years last season.

Of course it isn't anything to with success.

FFS why do people bullshit so much about it?

from what I understand you don't go to matches so why should it concern you so much why other people don't? You asked a question and you got an honest answer but it obviously wasn't the one you were hoping for.

He's the only person who doesn't go that's got a valid reason for not going anymore

The only person who works 154 hours a week and has a family

Are you attempting to say I claim to be busy all week? If so that is 168 hours.

My reason's for not going are that I am in the Raf and work most weekends as I am an air traffic controller who works shifts. Very rarely do I get Saturday's off and am able to travel to Cardiff. When I do and am I go. I just don't go regularly anymore as I used to. I am also a community first responder which takes up my spare time.

My point to him is that to say now he's not going because of the 'Tan circus' but go when we were in the premiership is ridiculous as Tan was here then and the circus was worse and we were in red. To not go now all of a sudden after we had our worst season in sometime is quite a co incidence.

I allowed for breaks of which by law you should get 30 mins every 6 hours

If he's been supporting the club since 1970 through much worse league positions than last seasons 10th so I believe the guy when he says he's had enough.

I know many long term supporters who've supported the club through worse times on the field than this who have become disconnected with the club. They still went in on the Prem season but mainly to go to grounds they hadn't been too with City but the connection had been lost. It wasn't the same anymore.

Last year was shambolic off the pitch and just as big a circus as the Prem season. We had a big spend that said we were going for it then 7 games in Tan presses the panic button, starts getting rid of players he's only just signed, employed the most uninspirational manager he could possibly find, gave a sky sports interview antagonising fans then done a u turn on that cos his "mother told him", then we start getting rid of players to save 8 weeks wages and sign some donkeys who rarely play and then we get rid of them too Complete farce.

We may have got the blue back mid season last year but for a lot of fans the damage has been done.

I did relent and go to the Fulham game and was bored stupid so haven't bothered since and am unlikely to in the near future.

Might be worth changing your user name then

doesn't stop me from wanting the team to do well - I just won't contribute to the circus that is Cardiff City under Vincent Tan anymore - or is that a bit complicated for you?

Did you go when we were top of the championship or in the premiership?

I was a season ticket holder for many years with my sons from well before we moved to the CCS - as mentioned my first game was in 1970. Yes, I went during those seasons and hated the season in the prem actually as it was like watching a different club to the one I had supported all my life. I hardly missed a game again last season but the enjoyment has gone I'm afraid and watching the club throw the fans hard earned money away on unwanted players fees, wages and pay offs was the last straw. I made the effort to go to Fulham but I no longer felt part of something that used to mean a lot to me but that doesn't mean I don't want the club to do well. Its just not a priority anymore.

Tan has been here for years and you went through the rebrand yet you stopped going this year, after changing back to blue but when we finished in our lowest position for years last season.

Of course it isn't anything to with success.

FFS why do people bullshit so much about it?

from what I understand you don't go to matches so why should it concern you so much why other people don't? You asked a question and you got an honest answer but it obviously wasn't the one you were hoping for.

He's the only person who doesn't go that's got a valid reason for not going anymore

The only person who works 154 hours a week and has a family

Are you attempting to say I claim to be busy all week? If so that is 168 hours.

My reason's for not going are that I am in the Raf and work most weekends as I am an air traffic controller who works shifts. Very rarely do I get Saturday's off and am able to travel to Cardiff. When I do and am I go. I just don't go regularly anymore as I used to. I am also a community first responder which takes up my spare time.

My point to him is that to say now he's not going because of the 'Tan circus' but go when we were in the premiership is ridiculous as Tan was here then and the circus was worse and we were in red. To not go now all of a sudden after we had our worst season in sometime is quite a co incidence.

Agree about the circus bit

I allowed for breaks of which by law you should get 30 mins every 6 hours

If he's been supporting the club since 1970 through much worse league positions than last seasons 10th so I believe the guy when he says he's had enough.

I know many long term supporters who've supported the club through worse times on the field than this who have become disconnected with the club. They still went in on the Prem season but mainly to go to grounds they hadn't been too with City but the connection had been lost. It wasn't the same anymore.

Last year was shambolic off the pitch and just as big a circus as the Prem season. We had a big spend that said we were going for it then 7 games in Tan presses the panic button, starts getting rid of players he's only just signed, employed the most uninspirational manager he could possibly find, gave a sky sports interview antagonising fans then done a u turn on that cos his "mother told him", then we start getting rid of players to save 8 weeks wages and sign some donkeys who rarely play and then we get rid of them too Complete farce.

We may have got the blue back mid season last year but for a lot of fans the damage has been done.

And that sums it up perfectly mate. I suspect the OP never saw the likes of Torquay, Darlington and Stockport play us off the park at home, 0-6 and 1-5 defeats to Notts Forest and Huddersfield Town or witness the likes of footballing giants such as Craig Middleton and Andy Saville represent us. Jesus if I was a glory hunter I wouldn't have pay to watch that dross and then give up when we were riding high in the Championship. As someone else says its the ones who shout loudest that have the least to say.

I allowed for breaks of which by law you should get 30 mins every 6 hours

If he's been supporting the club since 1970 through much worse league positions than last seasons 10th so I believe the guy when he says he's had enough.

I know many long term supporters who've supported the club through worse times on the field than this who have become disconnected with the club. They still went in on the Prem season but mainly to go to grounds they hadn't been too with City but the connection had been lost. It wasn't the same anymore.

Last year was shambolic off the pitch and just as big a circus as the Prem season. We had a big spend that said we were going for it then 7 games in Tan presses the panic button, starts getting rid of players he's only just signed, employed the most uninspirational manager he could possibly find, gave a sky sports interview antagonising fans then done a u turn on that cos his "mother told him", then we start getting rid of players to save 8 weeks wages and sign some donkeys who rarely play and then we get rid of them too Complete farce.

We may have got the blue back mid season last year but for a lot of fans the damage has been done.

And that sums it up perfectly mate. I suspect the OP never saw the likes of Torquay, Darlington and Stockport play us off the park at home, 0-6 and 1-5 defeats to Notts Forest and Huddersfield Town or witness the likes of footballing giants such as Craig Middleton and Andy Saville represent us. Jesus if I was a glory hunter I wouldn't have pay to watch that dross and then give up when we were riding high in the Championship. As someone else says its the ones who shout loudest that have the least to say.

Craig Middleton

Sad thing is we were that bad he was one of the better players

Craig Middleton

Sad thing is we were that bad he was one of the better players

A scary thought. He looked the part though,

I allowed for breaks of which by law you should get 30 mins every 6 hours

If he's been supporting the club since 1970 through much worse league positions than last seasons 10th so I believe the guy when he says he's had enough.

I know many long term supporters who've supported the club through worse times on the field than this who have become disconnected with the club. They still went in on the Prem season but mainly to go to grounds they hadn't been too with City but the connection had been lost. It wasn't the same anymore.

Last year was shambolic off the pitch and just as big a circus as the Prem season. We had a big spend that said we were going for it then 7 games in Tan presses the panic button, starts getting rid of players he's only just signed, employed the most uninspirational manager he could possibly find, gave a sky sports interview antagonising fans then done a u turn on that cos his "mother told him", then we start getting rid of players to save 8 weeks wages and sign some donkeys who rarely play and then we get rid of them too Complete farce.

We may have got the blue back mid season last year but for a lot of fans the damage has been done.

I'm not disputing he has been going since the 70s. Maybe seeing premiership footballs means he doesn't want to revert to championship football again. My point is that he stated it was due Tan's circus he has stopped. Tan's circus (if it is such a thing) has been going for 4 seasons give or take. 2.5 seasons of success. 1.5 seasons of no success. It's a mighty co incidence he stops when there is no success when the circus is still there and in fact settled somewhat.

I allowed for breaks of which by law you should get 30 mins every 6 hours

If he's been supporting the club since 1970 through much worse league positions than last seasons 10th so I believe the guy when he says he's had enough.

I know many long term supporters who've supported the club through worse times on the field than this who have become disconnected with the club. They still went in on the Prem season but mainly to go to grounds they hadn't been too with City but the connection had been lost. It wasn't the same anymore.

Last year was shambolic off the pitch and just as big a circus as the Prem season. We had a big spend that said we were going for it then 7 games in Tan presses the panic button, starts getting rid of players he's only just signed, employed the most uninspirational manager he could possibly find, gave a sky sports interview antagonising fans then done a u turn on that cos his "mother told him", then we start getting rid of players to save 8 weeks wages and sign some donkeys who rarely play and then we get rid of them too Complete farce.

We may have got the blue back mid season last year but for a lot of fans the damage has been done.

And that sums it up perfectly mate. I suspect the OP never saw the likes of Torquay, Darlington and Stockport play us off the park at home, 0-6 and 1-5 defeats to Notts Forest and Huddersfield Town or witness the likes of footballing giants such as Craig Middleton and Andy Saville represent us. Jesus if I was a glory hunter I wouldn't have pay to watch that dross and then give up when we were riding high in the Championship. As someone else says its the ones who shout loudest that have the least to say.

Am I the OP you speak about? I didn't start the post.

I started going in 1992 when I was 13. I wasn't born until 1979 so certainly couldn't go before that. I have seen us play Chester in front of 1300 fans. Been away with 50 odd others. Saw us concede 7 v Cambridge, score 5 v Wrexham 4 v Brentford 4 v Fulham away. I definitely saw Andy Saville and Craig Middleton. Quite liked them both to be fair.

I allowed for breaks of which by law you should get 30 mins every 6 hours

If he's been supporting the club since 1970 through much worse league positions than last seasons 10th so I believe the guy when he says he's had enough.

I know many long term supporters who've supported the club through worse times on the field than this who have become disconnected with the club. They still went in on the Prem season but mainly to go to grounds they hadn't been too with City but the connection had been lost. It wasn't the same anymore.

Last year was shambolic off the pitch and just as big a circus as the Prem season. We had a big spend that said we were going for it then 7 games in Tan presses the panic button, starts getting rid of players he's only just signed, employed the most uninspirational manager he could possibly find, gave a sky sports interview antagonising fans then done a u turn on that cos his "mother told him", then we start getting rid of players to save 8 weeks wages and sign some donkeys who rarely play and then we get rid of them too Complete farce.

We may have got the blue back mid season last year but for a lot of fans the damage has been done.

And that sums it up perfectly mate. I suspect the OP never saw the likes of Torquay, Darlington and Stockport play us off the park at home, 0-6 and 1-5 defeats to Notts Forest and Huddersfield Town or witness the likes of footballing giants such as Craig Middleton and Andy Saville represent us. Jesus if I was a glory hunter I wouldn't have pay to watch that dross and then give up when we were riding high in the Championship. As someone else says its the ones who shout loudest that have the least to say.

Am I the OP you speak about? I didn't start the post.

I started going in 1992 when I was 13. I wasn't born until 1979 so certainly couldn't go before that. I have seen us play Chester in front of 1300 fans. Been away with 50 odd others. Saw us concede 7 v Cambridge, score 5 v Wrexham 4 v Brentford 4 v Fulham away. I definitely saw Andy Saville and Craig Middleton. Quite liked them both to be fair.

OK so you weren't the original poster... And if you read my comments properly before making your thoughts known, you would realise that I said I don't want to contribute to the Tan era anymore. I never said that it was the sole reason, as I backed it up by seeing the final straw was seeing my hard earned money being splashed about on wages, pay offs and inflated transfer fees for players that in some cases never even pulled on a shirt in anger.

I allowed for breaks of which by law you should get 30 mins every 6 hours

If he's been supporting the club since 1970 through much worse league positions than last seasons 10th so I believe the guy when he says he's had enough.

I know many long term supporters who've supported the club through worse times on the field than this who have become disconnected with the club. They still went in on the Prem season but mainly to go to grounds they hadn't been too with City but the connection had been lost. It wasn't the same anymore.

Last year was shambolic off the pitch and just as big a circus as the Prem season. We had a big spend that said we were going for it then 7 games in Tan presses the panic button, starts getting rid of players he's only just signed, employed the most uninspirational manager he could possibly find, gave a sky sports interview antagonising fans then done a u turn on that cos his "mother told him", then we start getting rid of players to save 8 weeks wages and sign some donkeys who rarely play and then we get rid of them too Complete farce.

We may have got the blue back mid season last year but for a lot of fans the damage has been done.

I'm not disputing he has been going since the 70s. Maybe seeing premiership footballs means he doesn't want to revert to championship football again. My point is that he stated it was due Tan's circus he has stopped. Tan's circus (if it is such a thing) has been going for 4 seasons give or take. 2.5 seasons of success. 1.5 seasons of no success. It's a mighty co incidence he stops when there is no success when the circus is still there and in fact settled somewhat.

He said he didnt even enjoy the Prem season and I can relate to that and know many others who feel the same.

Tans circus started 2 years after the Malaysians first become involved, the rebrand was surreal but we won the league that year and people had waited so long to see City in the Prem, especially after wed been knocking on the door the 3 years previous and so he got cut some slack to a certain degree. Then the circus really started in the Premiership. It wasnt an enjoyable season and its just got worse and worse since for reasons ive already given on this thread and people have become more and more disenchanted with Tan, City and football in general.

We may have the blue back but the damage has been done. To suggest a guy who has been supportingt City for over 40 years has now all of a sudden become a "glory hunter" just because of 1 season out of the 40 odd hes supported in the Premiership is laughable.

I allowed for breaks of which by law you should get 30 mins every 6 hours

If he's been supporting the club since 1970 through much worse league positions than last seasons 10th so I believe the guy when he says he's had enough.

I know many long term supporters who've supported the club through worse times on the field than this who have become disconnected with the club. They still went in on the Prem season but mainly to go to grounds they hadn't been too with City but the connection had been lost. It wasn't the same anymore.

Last year was shambolic off the pitch and just as big a circus as the Prem season. We had a big spend that said we were going for it then 7 games in Tan presses the panic button, starts getting rid of players he's only just signed, employed the most uninspirational manager he could possibly find, gave a sky sports interview antagonising fans then done a u turn on that cos his "mother told him", then we start getting rid of players to save 8 weeks wages and sign some donkeys who rarely play and then we get rid of them too Complete farce.

We may have got the blue back mid season last year but for a lot of fans the damage has been done.

And that sums it up perfectly mate. I suspect the OP never saw the likes of Torquay, Darlington and Stockport play us off the park at home, 0-6 and 1-5 defeats to Notts Forest and Huddersfield Town or witness the likes of footballing giants such as Craig Middleton and Andy Saville represent us. Jesus if I was a glory hunter I wouldn't have pay to watch that dross and then give up when we were riding high in the Championship. As someone else says its the ones who shout loudest that have the least to say.

Am I the OP you speak about? I didn't start the post.

I started going in 1992 when I was 13. I wasn't born until 1979 so certainly couldn't go before that. I have seen us play Chester in front of 1300 fans. Been away with 50 odd others. Saw us concede 7 v Cambridge, score 5 v Wrexham 4 v Brentford 4 v Fulham away. I definitely saw Andy Saville and Craig Middleton. Quite liked them both to be fair.

OK so you weren't the original poster... And if you read my comments properly before making your thoughts known, you would realise that I said I don't want to contribute to the Tan era anymore. I never said that it was the sole reason, as I backed it up by seeing the final straw was seeing my hard earned money being splashed about on wages, pay offs and inflated transfer fees for players that in some cases never even pulled on a shirt in anger.

Again we did that in the past. Cornelius just one example.

I allowed for breaks of which by law you should get 30 mins every 6 hours

If he's been supporting the club since 1970 through much worse league positions than last seasons 10th so I believe the guy when he says he's had enough.

I know many long term supporters who've supported the club through worse times on the field than this who have become disconnected with the club. They still went in on the Prem season but mainly to go to grounds they hadn't been too with City but the connection had been lost. It wasn't the same anymore.

Last year was shambolic off the pitch and just as big a circus as the Prem season. We had a big spend that said we were going for it then 7 games in Tan presses the panic button, starts getting rid of players he's only just signed, employed the most uninspirational manager he could possibly find, gave a sky sports interview antagonising fans then done a u turn on that cos his "mother told him", then we start getting rid of players to save 8 weeks wages and sign some donkeys who rarely play and then we get rid of them too Complete farce.

We may have got the blue back mid season last year but for a lot of fans the damage has been done.

I'm not disputing he has been going since the 70s. Maybe seeing premiership footballs means he doesn't want to revert to championship football again. My point is that he stated it was due Tan's circus he has stopped. Tan's circus (if it is such a thing) has been going for 4 seasons give or take. 2.5 seasons of success. 1.5 seasons of no success. It's a mighty co incidence he stops when there is no success when the circus is still there and in fact settled somewhat.

He said he didnt even enjoy the Prem season and I can relate to that and know many others who feel the same.

Tans circus started 2 years after the Malaysians first become involved, the rebrand was surreal but we won the league that year and people had waited so long to see City in the Prem, especially after wed been knocking on the door the 3 years previous and so he got cut some slack to a certain degree. Then the circus really started in the Premiership. It wasnt an enjoyable season and its just got worse and worse since for reasons ive already given on this thread and people have become more and more disenchanted with Tan, City and football in general.

We may have the blue back but the damage has been done. To suggest a guy who has been supportingt City for over 40 years has now all of a sudden become a "glory hunter" just because of 1 season out of the 40 odd hes supported in the Premiership is laughable.

I never once used the term glory hunter. Merely pointed out the co incidence.

I stopped enjoying it around the time of the FA Cup final.

I allowed for breaks of which by law you should get 30 mins every 6 hours

If he's been supporting the club since 1970 through much worse league positions than last seasons 10th so I believe the guy when he says he's had enough.

I know many long term supporters who've supported the club through worse times on the field than this who have become disconnected with the club. They still went in on the Prem season but mainly to go to grounds they hadn't been too with City but the connection had been lost. It wasn't the same anymore.

Last year was shambolic off the pitch and just as big a circus as the Prem season. We had a big spend that said we were going for it then 7 games in Tan presses the panic button, starts getting rid of players he's only just signed, employed the most uninspirational manager he could possibly find, gave a sky sports interview antagonising fans then done a u turn on that cos his "mother told him", then we start getting rid of players to save 8 weeks wages and sign some donkeys who rarely play and then we get rid of them too Complete farce.

We may have got the blue back mid season last year but for a lot of fans the damage has been done.

I'm not disputing he has been going since the 70s. Maybe seeing premiership footballs means he doesn't want to revert to championship football again. My point is that he stated it was due Tan's circus he has stopped. Tan's circus (if it is such a thing) has been going for 4 seasons give or take. 2.5 seasons of success. 1.5 seasons of no success. It's a mighty co incidence he stops when there is no success when the circus is still there and in fact settled somewhat.

He said he didnt even enjoy the Prem season and I can relate to that and know many others who feel the same.

Tans circus started 2 years after the Malaysians first become involved, the rebrand was surreal but we won the league that year and people had waited so long to see City in the Prem, especially after wed been knocking on the door the 3 years previous and so he got cut some slack to a certain degree. Then the circus really started in the Premiership. It wasnt an enjoyable season and its just got worse and worse since for reasons ive already given on this thread and people have become more and more disenchanted with Tan, City and football in general.

We may have the blue back but the damage has been done. To suggest a guy who has been supportingt City for over 40 years has now all of a sudden become a "glory hunter" just because of 1 season out of the 40 odd hes supported in the Premiership is laughable.

I never once used the term glory hunter. Merely pointed out the co incidence.

I stopped enjoying it around the time of the FA Cup final.

You may not have used the term but thats what youve been suggesting. You suggested just because he had one season in the prem he doesnt want to watch championship football anymore if thats not suggesting hes a glory hunter I dont know what is. You also called him a "bullshitter" just because you didnt agree with his reasons. Who made you Chief Inspector of the Attendance Police?

Youve been banging the "success is the reason people dont go anymore" drum for weeks. Whilst that may apply to some fans whove only come on board in the last decade it doesnt apply to everyone and certainly doesnt apply to people whove been supporting the club for 40 years because weve had very little success in that time!!!

At the end of the day theres a whole load of different reasons the attendances have droppped there is no one reason.

I allowed for breaks of which by law you should get 30 mins every 6 hours

If he's been supporting the club since 1970 through much worse league positions than last seasons 10th so I believe the guy when he says he's had enough.

I know many long term supporters who've supported the club through worse times on the field than this who have become disconnected with the club. They still went in on the Prem season but mainly to go to grounds they hadn't been too with City but the connection had been lost. It wasn't the same anymore.

Last year was shambolic off the pitch and just as big a circus as the Prem season. We had a big spend that said we were going for it then 7 games in Tan presses the panic button, starts getting rid of players he's only just signed, employed the most uninspirational manager he could possibly find, gave a sky sports interview antagonising fans then done a u turn on that cos his "mother told him", then we start getting rid of players to save 8 weeks wages and sign some donkeys who rarely play and then we get rid of them too Complete farce.

We may have got the blue back mid season last year but for a lot of fans the damage has been done.

I'm not disputing he has been going since the 70s. Maybe seeing premiership footballs means he doesn't want to revert to championship football again. My point is that he stated it was due Tan's circus he has stopped. Tan's circus (if it is such a thing) has been going for 4 seasons give or take. 2.5 seasons of success. 1.5 seasons of no success. It's a mighty co incidence he stops when there is no success when the circus is still there and in fact settled somewhat.

He said he didnt even enjoy the Prem season and I can relate to that and know many others who feel the same.

Tans circus started 2 years after the Malaysians first become involved, the rebrand was surreal but we won the league that year and people had waited so long to see City in the Prem, especially after wed been knocking on the door the 3 years previous and so he got cut some slack to a certain degree. Then the circus really started in the Premiership. It wasnt an enjoyable season and its just got worse and worse since for reasons ive already given on this thread and people have become more and more disenchanted with Tan, City and football in general.

We may have the blue back but the damage has been done. To suggest a guy who has been supportingt City for over 40 years has now all of a sudden become a "glory hunter" just because of 1 season out of the 40 odd hes supported in the Premiership is laughable.

I never once used the term glory hunter. Merely pointed out the co incidence.

I stopped enjoying it around the time of the FA Cup final.

You may not have used the term but thats what youve been suggesting. You suggested just because he had one season in the prem he doesnt want to watch championship football anymore if thats not suggesting hes a glory hunter I dont know what is. You also called him a "bullshitter" just because you didnt agree with his reasons. Who made you Chief Inspector of the Attendance Police?

Youve been banging the "success is the reason people dont go anymore" drum for weeks. Whilst that may apply to some fans whove only come on board in the last decade it doesnt apply to everyone and certainly doesnt apply to people whove been supporting the club for 40 years because weve had very little success in that time!!!

At the end of the day theres a whole load of different reasons the attendances have droppped there is no one reason.

The success is relative is the drum I bang and I stand by that. I did a post showing the stats that I think backed it up.

If he has been going for 40 years he would have seen far worse than now which is why I find it too co incidental he stopped going after 40 years the first full season after he might not have renewed his season ticket as no chance of Premiership football and no chance of success.

Would those that have stopped going, stopped going had we still been in the premiership?

I allowed for breaks of which by law you should get 30 mins every 6 hours

If he's been supporting the club since 1970 through much worse league positions than last seasons 10th so I believe the guy when he says he's had enough.

I know many long term supporters who've supported the club through worse times on the field than this who have become disconnected with the club. They still went in on the Prem season but mainly to go to grounds they hadn't been too with City but the connection had been lost. It wasn't the same anymore.

Last year was shambolic off the pitch and just as big a circus as the Prem season. We had a big spend that said we were going for it then 7 games in Tan presses the panic button, starts getting rid of players he's only just signed, employed the most uninspirational manager he could possibly find, gave a sky sports interview antagonising fans then done a u turn on that cos his "mother told him", then we start getting rid of players to save 8 weeks wages and sign some donkeys who rarely play and then we get rid of them too Complete farce.

We may have got the blue back mid season last year but for a lot of fans the damage has been done.

I'm not disputing he has been going since the 70s. Maybe seeing premiership footballs means he doesn't want to revert to championship football again. My point is that he stated it was due Tan's circus he has stopped. Tan's circus (if it is such a thing) has been going for 4 seasons give or take. 2.5 seasons of success. 1.5 seasons of no success. It's a mighty co incidence he stops when there is no success when the circus is still there and in fact settled somewhat.

He said he didnt even enjoy the Prem season and I can relate to that and know many others who feel the same.

Tans circus started 2 years after the Malaysians first become involved, the rebrand was surreal but we won the league that year and people had waited so long to see City in the Prem, especially after wed been knocking on the door the 3 years previous and so he got cut some slack to a certain degree. Then the circus really started in the Premiership. It wasnt an enjoyable season and its just got worse and worse since for reasons ive already given on this thread and people have become more and more disenchanted with Tan, City and football in general.

We may have the blue back but the damage has been done. To suggest a guy who has been supportingt City for over 40 years has now all of a sudden become a "glory hunter" just because of 1 season out of the 40 odd hes supported in the Premiership is laughable.

I never once used the term glory hunter. Merely pointed out the co incidence.

I stopped enjoying it around the time of the FA Cup final.

You may not have used the term but thats what youve been suggesting. You suggested just because he had one season in the prem he doesnt want to watch championship football anymore if thats not suggesting hes a glory hunter I dont know what is. You also called him a "bullshitter" just because you didnt agree with his reasons. Who made you Chief Inspector of the Attendance Police?

Youve been banging the "success is the reason people dont go anymore" drum for weeks. Whilst that may apply to some fans whove only come on board in the last decade it doesnt apply to everyone and certainly doesnt apply to people whove been supporting the club for 40 years because weve had very little success in that time!!!

At the end of the day theres a whole load of different reasons the attendances have droppped there is no one reason.

The success is relative is the drum I bang and I stand by that. I did a post showing the stats that I think backed it up.

If he has been going for 40 years he would have seen far worse than now which is why I find it too co incidental he stopped going after 40 years the first full season after he might not have renewed his season ticket as no chance of Premiership football and no chance of success.

Would those that have stopped going, stopped going had we still been in the premiership?

Some of them yes. Some people I know stopped going anyway only went to away games in the Prem even though they had a season ticket because they just were not feeling it and these were not Johnny come latelys these were people whove been all around the country in all divisions with the City.

Of course success is one of the reasons attendances fall, same with most clubs, but its not the ONLY reason. You for one should know that seeing as you dont even go yourself and thats not down to success!!!

I allowed for breaks of which by law you should get 30 mins every 6 hours

If he's been supporting the club since 1970 through much worse league positions than last seasons 10th so I believe the guy when he says he's had enough.

I know many long term supporters who've supported the club through worse times on the field than this who have become disconnected with the club. They still went in on the Prem season but mainly to go to grounds they hadn't been too with City but the connection had been lost. It wasn't the same anymore.

Last year was shambolic off the pitch and just as big a circus as the Prem season. We had a big spend that said we were going for it then 7 games in Tan presses the panic button, starts getting rid of players he's only just signed, employed the most uninspirational manager he could possibly find, gave a sky sports interview antagonising fans then done a u turn on that cos his "mother told him", then we start getting rid of players to save 8 weeks wages and sign some donkeys who rarely play and then we get rid of them too Complete farce.

We may have got the blue back mid season last year but for a lot of fans the damage has been done.

And that sums it up perfectly mate. I suspect the OP never saw the likes of Torquay, Darlington and Stockport play us off the park at home, 0-6 and 1-5 defeats to Notts Forest and Huddersfield Town or witness the likes of footballing giants such as Craig Middleton and Andy Saville represent us. Jesus if I was a glory hunter I wouldn't have pay to watch that dross and then give up when we were riding high in the Championship. As someone else says its the ones who shout loudest that have the least to say.

Am I the OP you speak about? I didn't start the post.

I started going in 1992 when I was 13. I wasn't born until 1979 so certainly couldn't go before that. I have seen us play Chester in front of 1300 fans. Been away with 50 odd others. Saw us concede 7 v Cambridge, score 5 v Wrexham 4 v Brentford 4 v Fulham away. I definitely saw Andy Saville and Craig Middleton. Quite liked them both to be fair.

OK so you weren't the original poster... And if you read my comments properly before making your thoughts known, you would realise that I said I don't want to contribute to the Tan era anymore. I never said that it was the sole reason, as I backed it up by seeing the final straw was seeing my hard earned money being splashed about on wages, pay offs and inflated transfer fees for players that in some cases never even pulled on a shirt in anger.

Again we did that in the past. Cornelius just one example.

FFS - Cornelius is one of the players I am talking about. More money pissed up against the wall - its happened through Malky & Ole's reigns and now with Slade too albeit with smaller figures involved. The last time I genuinely enjoyed a whole season was the first at the CCS when DJ had us playing fantastic football - I've enjoyed a few games since then of course, but with all that has gone on, it just doesn't mean that much anymore and it has nothing to do with what league we are in. Me and my sons attended pre-season friendlies, did plenty of away games, they had the kits as presents, so I have put a lot of money in over the years and to see it being spent the way it has been has been almost criminal - just read the post about the figures involved and you can see that we have been taken for mugs.The club have alienated a lot of fans by the way it has been run. I bought season tickets, car parking etc as usual last season to watch utter shite. I've watched us in the lower leagues, the Prem, Championship, Europe, Welsh Cup and was fortunate to see us in both major cup finals, but the soul has been ripped out of everything the Cardiff City I knew stood for and I no longer want to be part of it. That does not mean I don't want the team to do well - in fact I would be delighted if by some miracle Slade got us promoted, but would I go back - no, I'm afraid not. Polo is talking a lot of sense - he obviously gets what I am saying, which isn't really that hard to follow...

The football,if you can call it that, over the last two tears has been abysmal.You cannot expect blind loyalty on today's prices with overpaid charlatans who are not even trying.The world has changed;mutton headed comments about plastics is beyond childish and merely reflects the originators inability to engage with reality.Quite frankly watching CCFC is now painful.The following comments are so true.

Annis I've been going since 1968 hardly missed a game in the 70's and 80's, was a regular in the 90's and a season ticket holder 2000-2015. This year I've been to 1 game because last year in nearly 50 years of attending it was like going to the dentist and having all your teeth filled for 90 mins. You never fall out of love for the city,but boredom at my age comes with negative tactics and an owner who can't wait to offload once he's ripped the very soul out of the club. I can honestly say whilst we have the current management and board structure at the club you couldn't pay me to go!

QED

Lack of atmosphere, over priced tickets, poor football, lack of unity between club and fans, fans swiping at each other.

The football,if you can call it that, over the last two tears has been abysmal.You cannot expect blind loyalty on today's prices with overpaid charlatans who are not even trying.The world has changed;mutton headed comments about plastics is beyond childish and merely reflects the originators inability to engage with reality.Quite frankly watching CCFC is now painful.The following comments are so true.

Annis I've been going since 1968 hardly missed a game in the 70's and 80's, was a regular in the 90's and a season ticket holder 2000-2015. This year I've been to 1 game because last year in nearly 50 years of attending it was like going to the dentist and having all your teeth filled for 90 mins. You never fall out of love for the city,but boredom at my age comes with negative tactics and an owner who can't wait to offload once he's ripped the very soul out of the club. I can honestly say whilst we have the current management and board structure at the club you couldn't pay me to go!

QED

Would you go if we were in the premiership?

my last home game was when we got promotion against Charlton.i had been a regular season ticket holder since the late 60s.my intention was to attend away games after we went red,which i have done on a number of occasions.my daughter baught me a half season ticket ,the year we went up.i attended from christmas until the charlton game.when i looked around and saw all the red being worn by our fans it made me feel as though i was at another ground and not amongst my own.i looked upon them as turn coats,some were my friends,but i no longer felt we were in the same gang so to speak.as yongsters we would fight win and lose together and for each other we would do anything to make sure we kept each other safe,that feeling of togetherness was baught and taken away by mr tan.i still want the best for cardiff city but the chameleons among us can do one most of the allways blue cardiff fans go away too,they are the people i will stand along side and the moaning chameleons can go down to sloper rd when it suits them if they can be bothered not to attend mank u and little puddle games roll on wolves,see all the genuines up there,come on city.:

Would I go if CCFC were in the top tier no !!!! Perhaps this is beyond some but good football and passion are intrinisically linked.
Having watched CCFC in the lower leagues I enjoyed my days out.Watching the fridge defrost is preferable than watching this crap.