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Re: ' Worst home crowd ever '

Sun Sep 13, 2015 2:11 pm

pembroke allan wrote:
Wiltshireblue wrote:Spot on Allan. The bar is now set in peoples mind, however that bar was falsely high. As a result, normality is seen as worryingly bad. We are where we are, just enjoy.



Have posted the home support at the 3 games in another thread. :thumbup:


Cheers I've made it a sticky :thumbup:

Re: ' Worst home crowd ever '

Sun Sep 13, 2015 2:13 pm

Santa Ponsa Blue wrote:
pembroke allan wrote:
Wiltshireblue wrote:Spot on Allan. The bar is now set in peoples mind, however that bar was falsely high. As a result, normality is seen as worryingly bad. We are where we are, just enjoy.



Have posted the home support at the 3 games in another thread. :thumbup:


Cheers I've made it a sticky :thumbup:



Thanks just thought be useful to compare :thumbup:

Re: ' Worst home crowd ever '

Sun Sep 13, 2015 2:27 pm

Have to get involved in this, I have not renewed this year due to financial reasons. Some of us has chosen to work on weekends to earn more money, times are hard but some of you lot don't realize this ! My family has not been away for three years and due to not going down the city this year we can now afford this. I for one have decided where my priorities lie and even though i Love the city my family come first, listening to you lot go on about plastic this and glory hunter that will NOT get people back. Get real people supporters will now chose which game they attend WHEN they can afford it !

Re: ' Worst home crowd ever '

Sun Sep 13, 2015 3:56 pm

pembroke allan wrote:nice to have positive story add it to lowest attendance we have had in div 1 2 3 & 4 when we were in them! ffs there must always be a lowest crowd or do people on here not think that? :o :thumbup:


blame tan for all the other lowest attendances as well! :lol:

Not good Allan where have they all gone. :o

Re: ' Worst home crowd ever '

Sun Sep 13, 2015 4:05 pm

Success brings fans. Look at them down the road. They averaged 13,000 when they got promoted, now they need to 'expand' the stadium. We had a lot of good years and last year from memory is the first year we havent had a 'cup run' or brought ' big' signings in. There is a lack of a buzz down there at present , despite results.

Re: ' Worst home crowd ever '

Sun Sep 13, 2015 4:31 pm

Bluebird_87 wrote:Success brings fans. Look at them down the road. They averaged 13,000 when they got promoted, now they need to 'expand' the stadium. We had a lot of good years and last year from memory is the first year we havent had a 'cup run' or brought ' big' signings in. There is a lack of a buzz down there at present , despite results.


For the sake of accuracy, they averaged 15,507 not 13,000.

Edit- Although they did average 13,500 the year they went up from League 1 if that is what you meant, but im not sure how that is relevant.
Last edited by Wiltshireblue on Sun Sep 13, 2015 4:34 pm, edited 2 times in total.

Re: ' Worst home crowd ever '

Sun Sep 13, 2015 4:33 pm

Wiltshireblue wrote:
Bluebird_87 wrote:Success brings fans. Look at them down the road. They averaged 13,000 when they got promoted, now they need to 'expand' the stadium. We had a lot of good years and last year from memory is the first year we havent had a 'cup run' or brought ' big' signings in. There is a lack of a buzz down there at present , despite results.


For the sake of accuracy, they averaged 15,507 not 13,000.

Correct nowhere near 13000.

Re: UPDATED ' Worst home crowd ever '

Sun Sep 13, 2015 4:37 pm

Updated
The actual attendance at the game was 12,980 approx :shock:

Re: ' Worst home crowd ever '

Sun Sep 13, 2015 4:38 pm

Wiltshireblue wrote:
Bluebird_87 wrote:Success brings fans. Look at them down the road. They averaged 13,000 when they got promoted, now they need to 'expand' the stadium. We had a lot of good years and last year from memory is the first year we havent had a 'cup run' or brought ' big' signings in. There is a lack of a buzz down there at present , despite results.


For the sake of accuracy, they averaged 15,507 not 13,000.

Edit- Although they did average 13,500 the year they went up from League 1 if that is what you meant, but im not sure how that is relevant.


Proves the point that success brings floaters. That's what I mean. Would be interesting what it was if you take the Cardiff home game out of the equation.

Re: ' Worst home crowd ever '

Sun Sep 13, 2015 4:41 pm

Bluebird_87 wrote:
Wiltshireblue wrote:
Bluebird_87 wrote:Success brings fans. Look at them down the road. They averaged 13,000 when they got promoted, now they need to 'expand' the stadium. We had a lot of good years and last year from memory is the first year we havent had a 'cup run' or brought ' big' signings in. There is a lack of a buzz down there at present , despite results.


For the sake of accuracy, they averaged 15,507 not 13,000.

Edit- Although they did average 13,500 the year they went up from League 1 if that is what you meant, but im not sure how that is relevant.


Proves the point that success brings floaters. That's what I mean. Would be interesting what it was if you take the Cardiff home game out of the equation.


If you took the derby out of the equation then it would barely move id assume. It is an average over 23 games. Their average has never dipped below 15,000 in the championship.

But yes, of course success brings fans.

Re: ' Worst home crowd ever '

Sun Sep 13, 2015 4:41 pm

Whereami wrote:
Wiltshireblue wrote:
Bluebird_87 wrote:Success brings fans. Look at them down the road. They averaged 13,000 when they got promoted, now they need to 'expand' the stadium. We had a lot of good years and last year from memory is the first year we havent had a 'cup run' or brought ' big' signings in. There is a lack of a buzz down there at present , despite results.


For the sake of accuracy, they averaged 15,507 not 13,000.

Correct nowhere near 13000.


In the Internet of complete accuracy the average attendance for the first three home games of the season they were promoted was 13, 487.

Re: ' Worst home crowd ever '

Sun Sep 13, 2015 4:45 pm

Wiltshireblue wrote:
Bluebird_87 wrote:
Wiltshireblue wrote:
Bluebird_87 wrote:Success brings fans. Look at them down the road. They averaged 13,000 when they got promoted, now they need to 'expand' the stadium. We had a lot of good years and last year from memory is the first year we havent had a 'cup run' or brought ' big' signings in. There is a lack of a buzz down there at present , despite results.


For the sake of accuracy, they averaged 15,507 not 13,000.

Edit- Although they did average 13,500 the year they went up from League 1 if that is what you meant, but im not sure how that is relevant.


Proves the point that success brings floaters. That's what I mean. Would be interesting what it was if you take the Cardiff home game out of the equation.


If you took the derby out of the equation then it would barely move id assume. It is an average over 23 games. Their average has never dipped below 15,000 in the championship.

But yes, of course success brings fans.


Well it would make a difference I suppose as they had 18,000 odd against us so it would bump it up.

I've glad I'm cleared that up with a fellow Cardiff fan.

Re: ' Worst home crowd ever '

Sun Sep 13, 2015 4:53 pm

Plynlymonbluebird wrote:
In the Internet of complete accuracy the average attendance for the first three home games of the season they were promoted was 13, 487.


I think you mean 15,772.

Swansea 3-1 Forest 16,661
Swansea 1-1 Sheff Wed 16,702
Swansea 1-1 Derby 14,003

Re: ' Worst home crowd ever '

Sun Sep 13, 2015 4:54 pm

Bluebird_87 wrote:
Wiltshireblue wrote:
Bluebird_87 wrote:
Wiltshireblue wrote:
Bluebird_87 wrote:Success brings fans. Look at them down the road. They averaged 13,000 when they got promoted, now they need to 'expand' the stadium. We had a lot of good years and last year from memory is the first year we havent had a 'cup run' or brought ' big' signings in. There is a lack of a buzz down there at present , despite results.


For the sake of accuracy, they averaged 15,507 not 13,000.

Edit- Although they did average 13,500 the year they went up from League 1 if that is what you meant, but im not sure how that is relevant.


Proves the point that success brings floaters. That's what I mean. Would be interesting what it was if you take the Cardiff home game out of the equation.


If you took the derby out of the equation then it would barely move id assume. It is an average over 23 games. Their average has never dipped below 15,000 in the championship.

But yes, of course success brings fans.


Well it would make a difference I suppose as they had 18,000 odd against us so it would bump it up.

I've glad I'm cleared that up with a fellow Cardiff fan.


2,500 spread over 23 games is a difference of 108 people over the course of the season. So it goes from 15,500 to 15,400.

Re: ' Worst home crowd ever '

Sun Sep 13, 2015 5:00 pm

Wiltshireblue wrote:
Plynlymonbluebird wrote:
In the Internet of complete accuracy the average attendance for the first three home games of the season they were promoted was 13, 487.


I think you mean 15,772.

Swansea 3-1 Forest 16,661
Swansea 1-1 Sheff Wed 16,702
Swansea 1-1 Derby 14,003


I think you are incorrect! If they were promoted in the 2010-2011 season their first three games were against:

Preston North End 14,010

Burnley 14,010

Coventry City 12,441

Re: ' Worst home crowd ever '

Sun Sep 13, 2015 5:04 pm

Plynlymonbluebird wrote:
Wiltshireblue wrote:
Plynlymonbluebird wrote:
In the Internet of complete accuracy the average attendance for the first three home games of the season they were promoted was 13, 487.


I think you mean 15,772.

Swansea 3-1 Forest 16,661
Swansea 1-1 Sheff Wed 16,702
Swansea 1-1 Derby 14,003


I think you are incorrect! If they were promoted in the 2010-2011 season their first three games were against:

Preston North End 14,010

Burnley 14,010

Coventry City 12,441


You said they year they were promoted, not the season. The year they were promoted from the championship was 2011, so it would be natural to think the season you were talking about started with the year in question. However that would be 20,000+ so assumed you were indeed talking about the year of 2008 which was the year they were promoted from league 1. But now you have confirmed you were talking about the season and not the year it makes much more sense.

Re: UPDATED ' Worst home crowd ever '

Sun Sep 13, 2015 5:06 pm

Those were the first three games of their last season in the Championship the most valid comparison I would imagine.

Re: UPDATED ' Worst home crowd ever '

Sun Sep 13, 2015 5:08 pm

Plynlymonbluebird wrote:Those were the first three games of their last season in the Championship the most valid comparison I would imagine.


Valid for what purpose?

Re: UPDATED ' Worst home crowd ever '

Sun Sep 13, 2015 5:09 pm

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Re: ' Worst home crowd ever '

Sun Sep 13, 2015 5:10 pm

Plynlymonbluebird wrote:
Whereami wrote:
Wiltshireblue wrote:
Bluebird_87 wrote:Success brings fans. Look at them down the road. They averaged 13,000 when they got promoted, now they need to 'expand' the stadium. We had a lot of good years and last year from memory is the first year we havent had a 'cup run' or brought ' big' signings in. There is a lack of a buzz down there at present , despite results.


For the sake of accuracy, they averaged 15,507 not 13,000.

Correct nowhere near 13000.


In the Internet of complete accuracy the average attendance for the first three home games of the season they were promoted was 13, 487.

That is wrong.

Re: ' Worst home crowd ever '

Sun Sep 13, 2015 5:11 pm

Wiltshireblue wrote:
Plynlymonbluebird wrote:
In the Internet of complete accuracy the average attendance for the first three home games of the season they were promoted was 13, 487.


I think you mean 15,772.

Swansea 3-1 Forest 16,661
Swansea 1-1 Sheff Wed 16,702
Swansea 1-1 Derby 14,003



I think in reflection you will find I said season not year.

Re: ' Worst home crowd ever '

Sun Sep 13, 2015 5:15 pm

Plynlymonbluebird wrote:
I think in reflection you will find I said season not year.


It must have been a quick edit. Valid comparison for what purpose anyway?

Re: ' Worst home crowd ever '

Sun Sep 13, 2015 5:17 pm

Wiltshireblue wrote:
Bluebird_87 wrote:
Wiltshireblue wrote:
Bluebird_87 wrote:
Wiltshireblue wrote:
Bluebird_87 wrote:Success brings fans. Look at them down the road. They averaged 13,000 when they got promoted, now they need to 'expand' the stadium. We had a lot of good years and last year from memory is the first year we havent had a 'cup run' or brought ' big' signings in. There is a lack of a buzz down there at present , despite results.


For the sake of accuracy, they averaged 15,507 not 13,000.

Edit- Although they did average 13,500 the year they went up from League 1 if that is what you meant, but im not sure how that is relevant.


Proves the point that success brings floaters. That's what I mean. Would be interesting what it was if you take the Cardiff home game out of the equation.


If you took the derby out of the equation then it would barely move id assume. It is an average over 23 games. Their average has never dipped below 15,000 in the championship.

But yes, of course success brings fans.


Well it would make a difference I suppose as they had 18,000 odd against us so it would bump it up.

I've glad I'm cleared that up with a fellow Cardiff fan.


2,500 spread over 23 games is a difference of 108 people over the course of the season. So it goes from 15,500 to 15,400.


So it makes a difference then. I'm sure I read somewhere they had 13,000 average somewhere. Would have to check with my jack friends. You know an awful lot about Swansea don't you..

Re: ' Worst home crowd ever '

Sun Sep 13, 2015 5:19 pm

Wiltshireblue wrote:
Plynlymonbluebird wrote:
I think in reflection you will find I said season not year.


It must have been a quick edit. Valid comparison for what purpose anyway?


No quick edit, you just to need to read what is written not what you want to believe is written. It just illustrates that both South Wales clubs require succes to achieve crowds over 15,000.

Re: ' Worst home crowd ever '

Sun Sep 13, 2015 5:24 pm

Plynlymonbluebird wrote:
Wiltshireblue wrote:
Plynlymonbluebird wrote:
I think in reflection you will find I said season not year.


It must have been a quick edit. Valid comparison for what purpose anyway?


No quick edit, you just to need to read what is written not what you want to believe is written. It just illustrates that both South Wales clubs require succes to achieve crowds over 15,000.


I believe I did read it correctly, we just cant agree over the supposed edit. Im not sure I agree regarding the statement either, Swansea averaged over 15,000 for every Championship season they had and were only in the play-offs for one solitary season out of them.

Re: ' Worst home crowd ever '

Sun Sep 13, 2015 5:26 pm

Wiltshireblue wrote:
Plynlymonbluebird wrote:
Wiltshireblue wrote:
Plynlymonbluebird wrote:
I think in reflection you will find I said season not year.


It must have been a quick edit. Valid comparison for what purpose anyway?


No quick edit, you just to need to read what is written not what you want to believe is written. It just illustrates that both South Wales clubs require succes to achieve crowds over 15,000.


I believe I did read it correctly, we just cant agree over the supposed edit. Im not sure I agree regarding the statement either, Swansea averaged over 15,000 for every Championship season they had and were only in the play-offs for one solitary season out of them.


You just can't admit when you are wrong can you, a familiar trait of another Swansea fan that pretended to be a City fan.

Re: ' Worst home crowd ever '

Sun Sep 13, 2015 5:27 pm

Wiltshireblue wrote:
Plynlymonbluebird wrote:
Wiltshireblue wrote:
Plynlymonbluebird wrote:
I think in reflection you will find I said season not year.


It must have been a quick edit. Valid comparison for what purpose anyway?


No quick edit, you just to need to read what is written not what you want to believe is written. It just illustrates that both South Wales clubs require succes to achieve crowds over 15,000.


I believe I did read it correctly, we just cant agree over the supposed edit. Im not sure I agree regarding the statement either, Swansea averaged over 15,000 for every Championship season they had and were only in the play-offs for one solitary season out of them.


I think the point he is trying to make is that floaters attach themselves to success. Swansea are an example currently, plus we are when we were in the premier league. If Swansea went down they'd be getting 14,000 plus crowds again. don't know what's not to understand by his point? The same goes for other clubs who have been relegated

Re: ' Worst home crowd ever '

Sun Sep 13, 2015 5:27 pm

Bluebird_87 wrote:

So it makes a difference then. I'm sure I read somewhere they had 13,000 average somewhere. Would have to check with my jack friends. You know an awful lot about Swansea don't you..


Yes, but as stated - barely. It means it is 15,400 instead of 15,500.

You probably read they had an average of 13,500 in League 1.

Yes I do know quite a bit although wikipedia has been a great ally in this particular topic I must say.

Re: ' Worst home crowd ever '

Sun Sep 13, 2015 5:29 pm

Plynlymonbluebird wrote:
You just can't admit when you are wrong can you, a familiar trait of another Swansea fan that pretended to be a City fan.


Yes of course, when I am of course. But you are more than welcome to think I am not - but the figures do say that Swansea average 15,000+ at that level without having to have success per se.

Re: ' Worst home crowd ever '

Sun Sep 13, 2015 5:29 pm

Wiltshireblue wrote:
Bluebird_87 wrote:

So it makes a difference then. I'm sure I read somewhere they had 13,000 average somewhere. Would have to check with my jack friends. You know an awful lot about Swansea don't you..


Yes, but as stated - barely. It means it is 15,400 instead of 15,500.

You probably read they had an average of 13,500 in League 1.

Yes I do know quite a bit although wikipedia has been a great ally in this particular topic I must say.


I'm sure it has.. However anyone can edit Wikipedia, tutors told me to stay away from that when I was in Uni. It can be very deceiving on some topics.