England's biggest club V Wales biggest club

We live within our means, if we can't afford it, we don't have it, not a bad philosophy and one that's stood us in good stead

Agreed, however for me you have been too conservative on this issue. The demand looks to be there but it isnt being capitalised on. Although I saw Jenkins say recently he wants to push ahead with it soon?

We live within our means, if we can't afford it, we don't have it, not a bad philosophy and one that's stood us in good stead

Agreed, however for me you have been too conservative on this issue. The demand looks to be there but it isnt being capitalised on. Although I saw Jenkins say recently he wants to push ahead with it soon?

Creepy!

We live within our means, if we can't afford it, we don't have it, not a bad philosophy and one that's stood us in good stead

Agreed, however for me you have been too conservative on this issue. The demand looks to be there but it isnt being capitalised on. Although I saw Jenkins say recently he wants to push ahead with it soon?

Creepy!

Not if they can fill it.

We live within our means, if we can't afford it, we don't have it, not a bad philosophy and one that's stood us in good stead

Agreed, however for me you have been too conservative on this issue. The demand looks to be there but it isnt being capitalised on. Although I saw Jenkins say recently he wants to push ahead with it soon?

Creepy!

Not if they can fill it.

No evidence they could!

Parlez, one of their most influential fans(lol) wouldn't pay the going rate for tickets when he was home from his millionaire life in Australia!

And no evidence that they couldnt. Although I think its safe to say they would.

We live within our means, if we can't afford it, we don't have it, not a bad philosophy and one that's stood us in good stead

Agreed, however for me you have been too conservative on this issue. The demand looks to be there but it isnt being capitalised on. Although I saw Jenkins say recently he wants to push ahead with it soon?

Creepy!

Not if they can fill it.

No evidence they could!

Parlez, one of their most influential fans(lol) wouldn't pay the going rate for tickets when he was home from his millionaire life in Australia!

Roathie's back. Delete yet again please mods

So people keep saying. Speak a bit of sense on a subject that some dont like to face up to and all hell breaks loose it seems.

So people keep saying. Speak a bit of sense on a subject that some dont like to face up to and all hell breaks loose it seems.

So how do you go about extending a stadium owned by someone else (the council).

Surely you'd have to buy the stadium first. Wouldn't that leave you (I mean them lol) strapped for cash?

So people keep saying. Speak a bit of sense on a subject that some dont like to face up to and all hell breaks loose it seems.

So how do you go about extending a stadium owned by someone else (the council).

Surely you'd have to buy the stadium first. Wouldn't that leave you (I mean them lol) strapped for cash?

Either buying it outright, or owning a share of the stadium in perfentage proportion to the expansion id have thought. That is a question you would have to level at the planners at Swansea HQ.

Whiterock and Wiltshireblue and whereami is making some good points on this thread.

One problem wrong forum these skiprats are so obsessed unbelievable

So people keep saying. Speak a bit of sense on a subject that some dont like to face up to and all hell breaks loose it seems.

So how do you go about extending a stadium owned by someone else (the council).

Surely you'd have to buy the stadium first. Wouldn't that leave you (I mean them lol) strapped for cash?

Either buying it outright, or owning a share of the stadium in perfentage proportion to the expansion id have thought. That is a question you would have to level at the planners at Swansea HQ.

You sure your a bluebird ?

Whiterock and Wiltshireblue and whereami is making some good points on this thread.

Talking to himself is a sign of madness!

So people keep saying. Speak a bit of sense on a subject that some dont like to face up to and all hell breaks loose it seems.

So how do you go about extending a stadium owned by someone else (the council).

Surely you'd have to buy the stadium first. Wouldn't that leave you (I mean them lol) strapped for cash?

Either buying it outright, or owning a share of the stadium in perfentage proportion to the expansion id have thought. That is a question you would have to level at the planners at Swansea HQ.

Like I said though, if they buy the stadium, won't that interfere with their prudent spending policy? They may have less money to maintain the squad if key players leave.???

So people keep saying. Speak a bit of sense on a subject that some dont like to face up to and all hell breaks loose it seems.

So how do you go about extending a stadium owned by someone else (the council).

Surely you'd have to buy the stadium first. Wouldn't that leave you (I mean them lol) strapped for cash?

Either buying it outright, or owning a share of the stadium in perfentage proportion to the expansion id have thought. That is a question you would have to level at the planners at Swansea HQ.

Like I said though, if they buy the stadium, won't that interfere with their prudent spending policy? They may have less money to maintain the squad if key players leave.???

Whilst in the ideal world buying the stadium would be preferable but it's not essential, the way we have gone about things is just about right and perhaps if u had done similar then who knows what league you would have been in?

1. Spend enough to sustain PL football over 5 years
2. Build state of the art training complex
3. Build state of the art training complex with indie barn befitting Category One for our academy
4. Expand stadium
5. In time, purchase stadium

Don't forget, swansea don't have or need a sugar daddy and that's why it has to do things in order and live within its means. #proud

So people keep saying. Speak a bit of sense on a subject that some dont like to face up to and all hell breaks loose it seems.

So how do you go about extending a stadium owned by someone else (the council).

Surely you'd have to buy the stadium first. Wouldn't that leave you (I mean them lol) strapped for cash?

Either buying it outright, or owning a share of the stadium in perfentage proportion to the expansion id have thought. That is a question you would have to level at the planners at Swansea HQ.

Like I said though, if they buy the stadium, won't that interfere with their prudent spending policy? They may have less money to maintain the squad if key players leave.???

What about ospreys? Or don't they count for anything? And its a public building can they buy something owned by basically the people of Swansea? Who are not all football fans!! Still waiting for expansion been saying it for several years now?

Whilst in the ideal world buying the stadium would be preferable but it's not essential, the way we have gone about things is just about right and perhaps if u had done similar then who knows what league you would have been in?

1. Spend enough to sustain PL football over 5 years
2. Build state of the art training complex
3. Build state of the art training complex with indie barn befitting Category One for our academy
4. Expand stadium
5. In time, purchase stadium

Don't forget, swansea don't have or need a sugar daddy and that's why it has to do things in order and live within its means. #proud

You forgot about the creditors that you screwed and clubs who now have to have points deductions for Cva.

Whilst in the ideal world buying the stadium would be preferable but it's not essential, the way we have gone about things is just about right and perhaps if u had done similar then who knows what league you would have been in?

1. Spend enough to sustain PL football over 5 years
2. Build state of the art training complex
3. Build state of the art training complex with indie barn befitting Category One for our academy
4. Expand stadium
5. In time, purchase stadium

Don't forget, swansea don't have or need a sugar daddy and that's why it has to do things in order and live within its means. #proud

You forgot about the creditors that you screwed and clubs who now have to have points deductions for Cva.

They were the rules, did u ever see the list who was owed money? The few local businesses were happy to waiver monies owed to see the club survive, the only ones who challenged the CVA were a few ex players who had had a good living out of swansea and that odious tit ML.
I saw a few cronies of ML on the list too. Dubious characters to say the least and there was no way we owed them money but for what ever reason, were on the list

Like I said though, if they buy the stadium, won't that interfere with their prudent spending policy? They may have less money to maintain the squad if key players leave.???

No. Being prudent doesnt mean spending little amounts, it means making sound financial decisions and spending within your means with a view of the future. If it costs £30m to buy and expand the stadium (which is about the extra they will get from the new deal next year) then that may just mean they dont buy as many players that year, but lets not forget that the vast majority of that amount will be mortgaged. They seem to have finally found a side their manager is settled with so it would be a good time to do it in that respect id have thought.

Whilst in the ideal world buying the stadium would be preferable but it's not essential, the way we have gone about things is just about right and perhaps if u had done similar then who knows what league you would have been in?

1. Spend enough to sustain PL football over 5 years
2. Build state of the art training complex
3. Build state of the art training complex with indie barn befitting Category One for our academy
4. Expand stadium
5. In time, purchase stadium

Don't forget, swansea don't have or need a sugar daddy and that's why it has to do things in order and live within its means. #proud

You forgot about the creditors that you screwed and clubs who now have to have points deductions for Cva.

They were the rules, did u ever see the list who was owed money? The few local businesses were happy to waiver monies owed to see the club survive, the only ones who challenged the CVA were a few ex players who had had a good living out of swansea and that odious tit ML.
I saw a few cronies of ML on the list too. Dubious characters to say the least and there was no way we owed them money but for what ever reason, were on the list

In the view of playing devils advocate - even if the deduction was in place, you still would have stayed up anyway.

Don't forget, it's our council who are being greedy wanting £24m for the stadium paid over 3 years, they'd have a deal if it was over 10

assuming this 'biggest club' label is to do with how the rest of football views us, i dont think you can argue that swansea city arent the bigger club at the moment.

cardiff city may have had success in 1927 and 1960's, but lets be honest outside of cardiff supporters few people care enough to remember that. same as swansea during our peak in 70s/80s - some people remember sure but the vast majority of football fans dont.

the fact is that over the last 5 years we have been in prem for 4 of them, played in europe and won a trophy. not to say that cardiff havent also had recent success but you just havent had the popularity on the global scale that we have - its that simple.

just look at social media stats:

facebook: swans 960k likes, cardiff 450k (still an impressive figure!)
twitter: swans 391k followers, cardiff 160k.

lets be honest though, neither of us have ever been particularly big clubs and its only in last 5 years that I would say anyones paid attention to the swans, our fortunes can change pretty quickly but at the moment you have to say swans are bigger.

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also this bloke pretending to be a cardiff fan is a total melt

No.

Swansea are Wales' most successful club, in recent years. But Cardiff City are still the biggest club in Wales.

Manchester United are just about the biggest club in England. To the above post - Chelsea or City will NEVER be bigger than United. Liverpool are the closest to them.

Completely agree

Swansea are more successful recently but historically Cardiff are the bigger club