Farage is right about HIV

FFS - Farage is a total fake who creams the EU for his and his German, yes German, wife's expensive lifestyle and then gives the big man of the people bollox. All this shit about leaving the EU immediately is nonsense as we are bound in by treaty after treaty and trade agreement after trade agreement. He is appealing to the lowest common denominator - please don't get taken in by his " its all the immigrants fault" and leave this piece of scum under the stone he is trying to crawl out from under.

Have you seen the guy in action?

He would close the place down tomorrow. That is not the actions of a man looking after his own interests if he is living off the system.

Africans are coming over and getting super expensive drugs to treat their HIV. He was right. The idiots jumping over him are making me want to vote for him more.

This thread just goes to show how the likes of UKIP are attempting to target the undereducated and ill informed by given out "facts" that prove to be nothing of the sort.They rely on people not being able or being too lazy to check out the veracity of their claims and then stoke up feeling against the group they are targeting.

Piss off I have a relative who is a nurse and she knows full well it's true.

Anecdotal evidence is worth jack all.

It's people like you who deny everything who are the problem. Wake up and smell the coffee. It's been a problem for 15 years plus.

Africans are coming over and getting super expensive drugs to treat their HIV. He was right. The idiots jumping over him are making me want to vote for him more.

This thread just goes to show how the likes of UKIP are attempting to target the undereducated and ill informed by given out "facts" that prove to be nothing of the sort.They rely on people not being able or being too lazy to check out the veracity of their claims and then stoke up feeling against the group they are targeting.

Piss off I have a relative who is a nurse and she knows full well it's true.

Anecdotal evidence is worth jack all.

It's people like you who deny everything who are the problem. Wake up and smell the coffee. It's been a problem for 15 years plus.

Lefty scum are giving Britain away

Africans are coming over and getting super expensive drugs to treat their HIV. He was right. The idiots jumping over him are making me want to vote for him more.

This thread just goes to show how the likes of UKIP are attempting to target the undereducated and ill informed by given out "facts" that prove to be nothing of the sort.They rely on people not being able or being too lazy to check out the veracity of their claims and then stoke up feeling against the group they are targeting.

Piss off I have a relative who is a nurse and she knows full well it's true.

Anecdotal evidence is worth jack all.

It's people like you who deny everything who are the problem. Wake up and smell the coffee. It's been a problem for 15 years plus.

This 'problem' costs us as a country a maximum of 400 million a year. Significantly less than 0.5% of our total overall spending on Health...

In the grand scheme of things it is meaningless, there are far far far bigger issues...

Africans are coming over and getting super expensive drugs to treat their HIV. He was right. The idiots jumping over him are making me want to vote for him more.

This thread just goes to show how the likes of UKIP are attempting to target the undereducated and ill informed by given out "facts" that prove to be nothing of the sort.They rely on people not being able or being too lazy to check out the veracity of their claims and then stoke up feeling against the group they are targeting.

Piss off I have a relative who is a nurse and she knows full well it's true.

Anecdotal evidence is worth jack all.

It's people like you who deny everything who are the problem. Wake up and smell the coffee. It's been a problem for 15 years plus.

This 'problem' costs us as a country a maximum of 400 million a year. Significantly less than 0.5% of our total overall spending on Health...

In the grand scheme of things it is meaningless, there are far far far bigger issues...

Oh that's ok then only 400 million. How many doctors and nurses would that pay for?

Africans are coming over and getting super expensive drugs to treat their HIV. He was right. The idiots jumping over him are making me want to vote for him more.

This thread just goes to show how the likes of UKIP are attempting to target the undereducated and ill informed by given out "facts" that prove to be nothing of the sort.They rely on people not being able or being too lazy to check out the veracity of their claims and then stoke up feeling against the group they are targeting.

Piss off I have a relative who is a nurse and she knows full well it's true.

Anecdotal evidence is worth jack all.

It's people like you who deny everything who are the problem. Wake up and smell the coffee. It's been a problem for 15 years plus.

This 'problem' costs us as a country a maximum of 400 million a year. Significantly less than 0.5% of our total overall spending on Health...

In the grand scheme of things it is meaningless, there are far far far bigger issues...

Oh that's ok then only 400 million. How many doctors and nurses would that pay for?

exactly

Health care a human right? Female genital mutilation, behead the non Muslim believers. Bleed animals to death, treat women like dogs a human right. ??? Let them get health care in their own shitholes we have a waiting list.

Yeah cause drunken white British students taking advantage of girls in night clubs and groping them is completely respectful, isn't it? You make it out as if its only people of different races or religions who do evil stuff. Harold Shipman ring a bell? Was Myra Hindley in a niqab? I don't think so kid. You know Anthony Walker...the kid from Liverpool...was he killed by Muslims...Oh no it was white people but of course not the white people they're angelic liberalised people who do no wrong. The alleged pedophile cover up within the political system...you know that BRITISH POLITICAL CLASS FULL OF WHITE PEOPLE.....they were clearly guided by the scripts of Islam weren't they? What about the attacks on mosques up and down the country? As for bleeding animals to death....thats obviously horrendous until a chubby Brit needs a kebab on the way home from Canton after several pints isn't it? You dont care that you've got Halal meat then do you? Do you take such objection to the factory farms that make animals LIVE for extended periods of times in horrific conditions but the moment an animal is put out of its misery all hell breaks loose. The way some of you go on you'd think white Brits walked on bloody water. Withdraw your blinkered heads from your own backside for one moment and smell the roses.

Fed up of listening to how high and mighty the 'liberalised' west is.

WOW - You really got a bee in your bonnet about "whitey" dont you

Not one person mentioned colour until you did. "White Brits"? what a racist tw*t you are. I know plenty
of black kids who enjoy a kebab, I also know there are plenty of black and Asian MPs who are just as bent/twisted
and corrupt as any white ones.

The debate here isnt about colour you sap. Nobody has said "give white Brits treatment and f**k the ethnics!"

Its about Africans (people from Africa - nobody said "the darkies!") coming to Britain and somehow jumping
the queue over BRITISH people to get HIV drugs. Black British people get ill too you know, so do British Asians.
and many Cancer sufferers are dying because of the lack of funding in the NHS. The system is bursting at the seams.
Britain cannot afford it. Its a sad sad problem, but we have got enough problems of our own.

Maybe you'll feel a little better if we all say black and asian people with British passports are dying...
f**k the white ones, lets just treat those of darker skin shall we? f**k the little white boy with Lukemia
because he's inherently evil..because he's dare i say that dirty word....WHITE. You are a moron. Britain
is a diverse Country with a proud people of all ethnicities. But we are also a Country going down the pan.
and in plain terms...need to drastically reduce the number of immigrants entering the Country without
contributing to the GDP. To make you feel better about yourself...We ALL include white immigrants too.
Poles, Rumanians, Russians....a far tighter system needs to be in place to ensure these people have something
Britain needs, in return for giving them something THEY need

The ''liberalised'' West...is where millions of Africans and Asians are flocking, to escape the abject poverty,
corruption and oppression in their home countries...poverty, corruption and oppression caused by Governments
comprising of....predominantly black and Asian people. People who take every f*cking penny of "filthy Western
money" sent in Aid donations...and steal it from their people.

Dont be ashamed to be white lad. There are as many evil bastards in the World that are oriental, black or Asian.

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I've seen plenty of your previous posts from a while back to know that you hate minorities and other religions.

The fact is, white Brits, black Brits do just as much bad things as people of all colours and religions. However, when Muslims do it its suddenly a religiously motivated hate crime. When its a white Brit like Barton's relative everyone doesn't go 'omg those disgusting white Brits' do they? No. The incident is isolated.

White people are no better and i'm not ashamed to be white either. I just dont use my skin colour or apparent liberalised country of birth as an excuse to belittle other cultures and claim superiority, as many arrogant prats do in Britain. They need to get off their high horses cause there's evil of all kinds all over the world.

You're obviously a bit thick cause nowhere did I say only whites are evil. What i said was whites can be and have been just as evil. That is an undeniable fact and one that many people dont like mentioned. However, you dont mind pointing out crimes that minorities commit do you? The Echo used to have a section in it, I dont know if it still does cause its full of drivel, where it told you of people who committed crimes and were sentenced. Dont remember hearing you bang on about them though? Why? Fact is muppets like yourself believe divide and conquer political rhetoric of Little Englanders like Farage and think its them vs us. You are being sold down the river.

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I've seen plenty of your previous posts from a while back to know that you hate minorities and other religions.

The fact is, white Brits, black Brits do just as much bad things as people of all colours and religions. However, when Muslims do it its suddenly a religiously motivated hate crime. When its a white Brit like Barton's relative everyone doesn't go 'omg those disgusting white Brits' do they? No. The incident is isolated.

White people are no better and i'm not ashamed to be white either. I just dont use my skin colour or apparent liberalised country of birth as an excuse to belittle other cultures and claim superiority, as many arrogant prats do in Britain. They need to get off their high horses cause there's evil of all kinds all over the world.

You're obviously a bit thick cause nowhere did I say only whites are evil. What i said was whites can be and have been just as evil. That is an undeniable fact and one that many people dont like mentioned. However, you dont mind pointing out crimes that minorities commit do you? The Echo used to have a section in it, I dont know if it still does cause its full of drivel, where it told you of people who committed crimes and were sentenced. Dont remember hearing you bang on about them though? Why? Fact is muppets like yourself believe divide and conquer political rhetoric of Little Englanders like Farage and think its them vs us. You are being sold down the river.

I hate minorities??

I just look at us all as equal. Equally good, equally bad.

you will I hope note that i would draw no distinction between Poles, Africans, Asians, Russians...

None should be allowed to just come to Britain and immediately be given access to jobs/benefits/medical treatment
that the British people are denied. No African male should be given priority over a West Indian British male for
treatment for cancer, for benefits, for housing.

My post oozes equality for all.

Yours....well, lets be blunt. One could almost be forgiven for saying you are ashamed to be white.

Adolf Hitler, Pol Pot, Idi Amin, Saddam hussein, Ghandi, Mother Teresa, Martin Luther King...

History is full of good examples (and bad) of people of all ethnicities that have shown a great propensity
towards violence, cruelty, hatred....and also great Humanity and kindness.

All the UKIP supporters are saying is.....Britain is skint, and we can no longer afford to be a dumping
ground for all the Worlds ills. YOU had to make it some kind of racial argument. Your very wrong.

I apologise for the adversarial and confrontational tone of my first post by the way

All the UKIP supporters are saying is.....Britain is skint, and we can no longer afford to be a dumping
ground for all the Worlds ills. YOU had to make it some kind of racial argument. Your very wrong.

Point is taff this isn't all they're saying though, is it? Some of them have brought race into it. Also, as for why this country is going skint maybe you should start looking closer to home cause the real reason lies in Westminster, not the immigrants who come here for a better life. I understand the anti-establishment angle because its totally right but to say immigrants are a problem is just ridiculous. I agree with cutting foreign aid to reinvest back home but I dont agree with stopping them being treated in the UK once they're here.

Africans are coming over and getting super expensive drugs to treat their HIV. He was right. The idiots jumping over him are making me want to vote for him more.

This thread just goes to show how the likes of UKIP are attempting to target the undereducated and ill informed by given out "facts" that prove to be nothing of the sort.They rely on people not being able or being too lazy to check out the veracity of their claims and then stoke up feeling against the group they are targeting.

Piss off I have a relative who is a nurse and she knows full well it's true.

Anecdotal evidence is worth jack all.

It's people like you who deny everything who are the problem. Wake up and smell the coffee. It's been a problem for 15 years plus.

This 'problem' costs us as a country a maximum of 400 million a year. Significantly less than 0.5% of our total overall spending on Health...

In the grand scheme of things it is meaningless, there are far far far bigger issues...

Oh that's ok then only 400 million. How many doctors and nurses would that pay for?

You could say that about any leakage of public money, this is a tiny leak comparatively... You care about this one because it fits the xenophobic rhetoric that you hear in your head when you fall asleep at night.

None should be allowed to just come to Britain and immediately be given access to jobs/benefits/medical treatment
that the British people are denied.

I agree, can you give an example where a migrant has been given access to something that British people have been denied access to?

None should be allowed to just come to Britain and immediately be given access to jobs/benefits/medical treatment
that the British people are denied.

I agree, can you give an example where a migrant has been given access to something that British people have been denied access to?

Of course he can't he's a daft bugger we seldom let out of his cage.

None should be allowed to just come to Britain and immediately be given access to jobs/benefits/medical treatment
that the British people are denied.

I agree, can you give an example where a migrant has been given access to something that British people have been denied access to?

Of course he can't he's a daft bugger we seldom let out of his cage.

Every Health Tourist that is given treatment in Great Britain is bleeding money from the NHS
Every Health Tourist that gets a Doctors appointment may well mean the next person who rings
up might be told "sorry, Doctor is full tonight" Every time an asylum SEEKER is housed...its one
less house available for British people to live in.

Put really really simply.. the growth rate of the United Kingdom was rapidly approaching 1% per
year up until the Government decided to stop publishing the figures. Britain is said to have a
population of around 70 million now. That would equate to needing a City twice the size of Cardiff
to be built every year. Lets be conservative and say the growth rate is only at 0.6% (the last time
they dared publish)...that still equates to around 400,000 more people in the UK every year.

Times 400,000 by ten years.....Suddenly, Britain needs a new City bigger than Birmingham.

Britain is failing under the strain. If you cannot see the state of the Hospitals, waiting lists,
Ambulances backed up outside A&Es all over Britain..then perhaps you just refuse to look?

So a political party that says WHOA..... we need to stem the tide. We need to ensure people
are coming to Britain who are able to contribute to the economy and have a skillset Britain lacks.
We need to stop people with the "Britain pays good benefits" mindsets coming here....is not racist,
is not Xenophobic, is not bigoted.

And there are double standards from the lovey dovey lefties. Because the lefties are always flying the
flag for Africans and Asians. But i've not heard the same volume of protests about letting the Romanians
and the Bulgarians into Britain. None of you sweethearts are ever seen fighting for the rights of the eastern
Europeans? A skeptic might just think that if its not an ethnic minority.... the left dont care.

I DONT distinguish between Muslim, Sikh, black, white or green.... I just think Britain needs to get a very
tight grip on immigration and of the resources being spent supporting the wave of people trying to enter the
Country. ... Not a wave, i hear you say...go check out Calais.

If a black, green, blue, martian wants to come to live here, given that the Country is OBVIOUSLY bursting at
the seams....great...but lets make sure they have a skill we need, a job waiting, and the money they need to
support themselves

I resent the implication that i am in some way a racist. But thats how you lefties fight your battles so I laugh
it off. Its a pathetic and cheap attempt at winning a debate

None should be allowed to just come to Britain and immediately be given access to jobs/benefits/medical treatment
that the British people are denied.

I agree, can you give an example where a migrant has been given access to something that British people have been denied access to?

Housing. When did you last see someone living on the streets who is from an ethnic minority.

Africans are coming over and getting super expensive drugs to treat their HIV. He was right. The idiots jumping over him are making me want to vote for him more.

there should be a basic medical to enter into any country as an immigrant. its just basic common sense and such tests exist in most civilised countries.

the NHS is overstretched enough treating those who are UK citizens. its very sad that people have HIV and don't have access to proper treatment in africa, but if you want to help them, donate to them. every pound spent on treating a health tourist means less money for someone who is here legally and has paid taxes towards it. why that is even denied by mainstream politicians highlights how bad the PC brigade are getting in the UK.

None should be allowed to just come to Britain and immediately be given access to jobs/benefits/medical treatment
that the British people are denied.

I agree, can you give an example where a migrant has been given access to something that British people have been denied access to?

Housing. When did you last see someone living on the streets who is from an ethnic minority.

Wow!!

That will upset the liberal lefties

But Britain is like America, it REFUSES to accept that people of ALL ethnicities can be nasty
evil people.

Case in point:

The US Prison system is strictly divided on racial lines. Black - Hispanic - White... They attack each
other at every opportunity. But you will find its only the ''white'' gangs that are called racist. Thats
liberalism that is. If a white guy attacks a black man because of the colour of his skin, its Racism,
plain and simple, of course it is, its disgusting. But reverse that and you'll find a few on this thread
struggling to call a black guy racist for doing the same thing Crazy, sad and pathetic.

I would rather vote Farage than Ed Liar Milliband

Annis you can't possibly believe farage an deliver all he promises. He's a politician, they are liars that's what they do for a living.

farage is the best out of a crock of Shit

Arguably wez but for me that's not enough reason to spend a vote on Any politician

I always vote coz I believe everyone should ,if you don't vote then why moan ,I'm voting ukip and most of my family are this time ,we were all Labour voters for decades but just have had enough

So you've voted Labour and they've let you down, ukip probably will too. Il spend my vote when someone comes along that I believe in, untill then I'm not wasting it on a best of a shit bunch. To be honest I like alot of what green peace say and think they are genuinely the most honest party, but don't think our country are ready for the changes they want to make.

You do realise a lot of them actually catch it over here yeah?
And you seem to believe that there are no Brits living abroad using other countries healthcare either. Don't believe his rhetoric. It's spin and lies for the most part.

If we go to Spain on holiday if we went to hospital with no holiday insurance we would have to pay ,if a Spanish person goes to hospital over here they don't how is that fair ?

Wez, if you carry your NI card,you now don't have to pay in Spain
But I know what you mean.

I thought that was a E111 ?

Africans are coming over and getting super expensive drugs to treat their HIV. He was right. The idiots jumping over him are making me want to vote for him more.

This thread just goes to show how the likes of UKIP are attempting to target the undereducated and ill informed by given out "facts" that prove to be nothing of the sort.They rely on people not being able or being too lazy to check out the veracity of their claims and then stoke up feeling against the group they are targeting.

Piss off I have a relative who is a nurse and she knows full well it's true.

Anecdotal evidence is worth jack all.

It's people like you who deny everything who are the problem. Wake up and smell the coffee. It's been a problem for 15 years plus.

This 'problem' costs us as a country a maximum of 400 million a year. Significantly less than 0.5% of our total overall spending on Health...

In the grand scheme of things it is meaningless, there are far far far bigger issues...

Oh that's ok then only 400 million. How many doctors and nurses would that pay for?

You could say that about any leakage of public money, this is a tiny leak comparatively... You care about this one because it fits the xenophobic rhetoric that you hear in your head when you fall asleep at night.

You are off your head. I think it's safe to say I've done more for people in other countries than you have.

I find it amazing how many people put saving a few quid for the country (and let's face it, most of that money goes to the elite 1%... cos I don't see much of it) over their humanity and kindness!

We are all on one planet... No matter how many imaginary borders are erected!

Africans are coming over and getting super expensive drugs to treat their HIV. He was right. The idiots jumping over him are making me want to vote for him more.

This thread just goes to show how the likes of UKIP are attempting to target the undereducated and ill informed by given out "facts" that prove to be nothing of the sort.They rely on people not being able or being too lazy to check out the veracity of their claims and then stoke up feeling against the group they are targeting.

Piss off I have a relative who is a nurse and she knows full well it's true.

Anecdotal evidence is worth jack all.

It's people like you who deny everything who are the problem. Wake up and smell the coffee. It's been a problem for 15 years plus.

This 'problem' costs us as a country a maximum of 400 million a year. Significantly less than 0.5% of our total overall spending on Health...

In the grand scheme of things it is meaningless, there are far far far bigger issues...

Oh that's ok then only 400 million. How many doctors and nurses would that pay for?

You could say that about any leakage of public money, this is a tiny leak comparatively... You care about this one because it fits the xenophobic rhetoric that you hear in your head when you fall asleep at night.

You are off your head. I think it's safe to say I've done more for people in other countries than you have.

I wouldn't know as I have no idea who you are.

Africans are coming over and getting super expensive drugs to treat their HIV. He was right. The idiots jumping over him are making me want to vote for him more.

This thread just goes to show how the likes of UKIP are attempting to target the undereducated and ill informed by given out "facts" that prove to be nothing of the sort.They rely on people not being able or being too lazy to check out the veracity of their claims and then stoke up feeling against the group they are targeting.

Piss off I have a relative who is a nurse and she knows full well it's true.

Anecdotal evidence is worth jack all.

It's people like you who deny everything who are the problem. Wake up and smell the coffee. It's been a problem for 15 years plus.

This 'problem' costs us as a country a maximum of 400 million a year. Significantly less than 0.5% of our total overall spending on Health...

In the grand scheme of things it is meaningless, there are far far far bigger issues...

Oh that's ok then only 400 million. How many doctors and nurses would that pay for?

You could say that about any leakage of public money, this is a tiny leak comparatively... You care about this one because it fits the xenophobic rhetoric that you hear in your head when you fall asleep at night.

You are off your head. I think it's safe to say I've done more for people in other countries than you have.

I wouldn't know as I have no idea who you are.

Exactly so why talk shite about me if you don't know who I am.

I find it amazing how many people put saving a few quid for the country (and let's face it, most of that money goes to the elite 1%... cos I don't see much of it) over their humanity and kindness!

We are all on one planet... No matter how many imaginary borders are erected!

I have never understood this assertion that I am meant to care more for a dying British person than I do for any dying person from around the world.

If we are going to deny foreign people treatment until they have 'paid in' for 5 years should be deny babies/children treatment until they have done the same.

To all the people who say we are FULL, how many kids do you have and how are you explaining to them their reponsibility to not procreate?

Exactly so why talk shite about me if you don't know who I am.

Well I am building my opinion based upon the rediculous things you have said in this thread...Maybe you could list all of your philanthropic work and then I can show you the respect you so rightfully crave. Just a word of warning, you haven't come across as a man who cares for anyone who was born outside of his own country so far in this thread or others.

I find it amazing how many people put saving a few quid for the country (and let's face it, most of that money goes to the elite 1%... cos I don't see much of it) over their humanity and kindness!

We are all on one planet... No matter how many imaginary borders are erected!

I have never understood this assertion that I am meant to care more for a dying British person than I do for any dying person from around the world.

If we are going to deny foreign people treatment until they have 'paid in' for 5 years should be deny babies/children treatment until they have done the same.

To all the people who say we are FULL, how many kids do you have and how are you explaining to them their reponsibility to not procreate?

Agree with you there. Should be a maximum of two children that are eligible for benefits. Anymore you pay for them yourselves.

Exactly so why talk shite about me if you don't know who I am.

Well I am building my opinion based upon the rediculous things you have said in this thread...Maybe you could list all of your philanthropic work and then I can show you the respect you so rightfully crave. Just a word of warning, you haven't come across as a man who cares for anyone who was born outside of his own country so far in this thread or others.

I care for this country and how the nhs is creaking so don't think it is right that people can move here no issues and receive HIV treatment. I was stating that Farage was right on this. We should have more rules on immigration much like Australia and USA.

Exactly so why talk shite about me if you don't know who I am.

Well I am building my opinion based upon the rediculous things you have said in this thread...Maybe you could list all of your philanthropic work and then I can show you the respect you so rightfully crave. Just a word of warning, you haven't come across as a man who cares for anyone who was born outside of his own country so far in this thread or others.

I care for this country and how the nhs is creaking so don't think it is right that people can move here no issues and receive HIV treatment. I was stating that Farage was right on this. We should have more rules on immigration much like Australia and USA.

Who has said these people have 'moved here no issues'. Moving to the UK from outside of the EU is NOT an easy process. No matter what Nigel says to you.

If you care about the NHS then you won't buddy up with a man who would rather see an insurance based health system...

Exactly so why talk shite about me if you don't know who I am.

Well I am building my opinion based upon the rediculous things you have said in this thread...Maybe you could list all of your philanthropic work and then I can show you the respect you so rightfully crave. Just a word of warning, you haven't come across as a man who cares for anyone who was born outside of his own country so far in this thread or others.

I care for this country and how the nhs is creaking so don't think it is right that people can move here no issues and receive HIV treatment. I was stating that Farage was right on this. We should have more rules on immigration much like Australia and USA.

Who has said these people have 'moved here no issues'. Moving to the UK from outside of the EU is NOT an easy process. No matter what Nigel says to you.

If you care about the NHS then you won't buddy up with a man who would rather see an insurance based health system...

Apart from the fact he says the opposite.

We need to give up here I'll never agree with someone with such left leaning views.

Exactly so why talk shite about me if you don't know who I am.

Well I am building my opinion based upon the rediculous things you have said in this thread...Maybe you could list all of your philanthropic work and then I can show you the respect you so rightfully crave. Just a word of warning, you haven't come across as a man who cares for anyone who was born outside of his own country so far in this thread or others.

I care for this country and how the nhs is creaking so don't think it is right that people can move here no issues and receive HIV treatment. I was stating that Farage was right on this. We should have more rules on immigration much like Australia and USA.

Who has said these people have 'moved here no issues'. Moving to the UK from outside of the EU is NOT an easy process. No matter what Nigel says to you.

If you care about the NHS then you won't buddy up with a man who would rather see an insurance based health system...

Apart from the fact he says the opposite.

We need to give up here I'll never agree with someone with such left leaning views.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RK0S1RYYBqc

He says differently now because he knows the party would barely win a vote if that was their policy. But fundamentally he thinks privatising the NHS is the only way to make it work.