Anybody claim housing benefit?

So you have never taken drugs? Are you sure about that Adam? Lets not start lying now. Maybe you have now realised your stance couldn't be more hypocritical if it tried.

Im not refusing help fella, i am refusing to give YOU my details. The same way I would refuse to give The Chuckle brothers my name and address if they asked for it claiming they can help. I have seen your work and reputation and dont wish to be associated with you.

I don't need help to find a job, i am perfectly capable as I have told you.

You clearly aren't capable because you are out of work ?

What a nonsense thing to say. You were out of work when you were sacked as being a councillor. Yet you refuse to accept you were incapable. You are so thick it is frightening.

I am out of work because a school in Spain had its funding cut and the schools in my area currently don't have a position. Nothing to do with my superb CV.

No because when I was a Councillor I also had other work!!! Pmsl and you call me thick yet I'm the one who is working. I have learnt from a young age to make sure that you got more than one revenue stream so maybe I can teach you that given your current issue

Then you have no idea what you are talking about.

If there are 20 jobs available and 20 unemployed people. Half the jobs are skilled and half the jobs are not. Half the people are skilled the other half are not.

If the 10 skilled people took the 10 unskilled jobs then the other 10 people remain unemployed and the 10 businesses suffer from understaffing.

Where as if the 10 unskilled jobs were given to the 10 unskilled people then the 10 skilled jobs would be there for the 10 skilled people to fill appropriately thus reducing unemployment to 0% and all companies have their workforce boosting the economy.

Simple economics.

How the hell are you a teacher? The jobs market does not work in the way you think it does at all. The number of jobs available, people going in and out of work is a fluid number all the time constantly changing, so there is never a 20 jobs available, 20 unemployed people case scenario. Even more laughable when you try and portray a scenario as a 50% split on skilled and unskilled positions. Are you an English teacher by any chance just throwing together your next scheme of work for when you return to the classroom because this shite you're conjuring up is right out of a fantasy novel.

You've also failed to even consider the numerous other variables at play when considering the economic make up of the country but instead have tried to portray this idealistic scenario which suits your argument. Not to mention that its full of logical fallacies for a start. Unfortunately for you I studied a few economics modules through choice as part of my university degree because my eventual aim is to set up my own business. Thanks for providing us all with a good laugh though.

Now, please tell me what happens when your scenario is adjusted to reflect the real world whereby there is a mass number of overqualified people for jobs (many of whom are graduates), a mass number of unskilled positions available and numerous immigrants coming from all over the globe adding more competition to the labour market? Lets not even factor in all of the most complex variable such as those on maternity leave, those on long term sick etc.

What happens is, you get overqualified people (people with degrees) going into unskilled positions (flipping burgers) and thats how they get jobs because there aren't enough skilled jobs to be taken up by the skilled labour market. Who'd have ever thought that the concept of supply and demand would be so applicable to the jobs market? Who'd have thought such a basic economic principle would be applicable, aye? Now, that's exactly why you get graduates working at places like McDonalds because unfortunately not everyone can find a job as a computer forensics expert or a lawyer working in the city. That is the reality of the world so people take up jobs 'they're too overqualified to do' until the job they do want to do comes along.

You must have thought I was some young stupid teenager when you tried to fob me off with that economic dribble. You haven't got a clue.

So you have never taken drugs? Are you sure about that Adam? Lets not start lying now. Maybe you have now realised your stance couldn't be more hypocritical if it tried.

Im not refusing help fella, i am refusing to give YOU my details. The same way I would refuse to give The Chuckle brothers my name and address if they asked for it claiming they can help. I have seen your work and reputation and dont wish to be associated with you.

I don't need help to find a job, i am perfectly capable as I have told you.

You clearly aren't capable because you are out of work ?

What a nonsense thing to say. You were out of work when you were sacked as being a councillor. Yet you refuse to accept you were incapable. You are so thick it is frightening.

I am out of work because a school in Spain had its funding cut and the schools in my area currently don't have a position. Nothing to do with my superb CV.

No because when I was a Councillor I also had other work!!! Pmsl and you call me thick yet I'm the one who is working. I have learnt from a young age to make sure that you got more than one revenue stream so maybe I can teach you that given your current issue

Yes i call you thick. Working doesn't mean you are not thick. Which you clearly are.

Hence why you take drugs, assault police officers, threaten your tenants and cost us all a fortune in the process. And i don't believe you for a second that you werent unemployed

Then you have no idea what you are talking about.

If there are 20 jobs available and 20 unemployed people. Half the jobs are skilled and half the jobs are not. Half the people are skilled the other half are not.

If the 10 skilled people took the 10 unskilled jobs then the other 10 people remain unemployed and the 10 businesses suffer from understaffing.

Where as if the 10 unskilled jobs were given to the 10 unskilled people then the 10 skilled jobs would be there for the 10 skilled people to fill appropriately thus reducing unemployment to 0% and all companies have their workforce boosting the economy.

Simple economics.

How the hell are you a teacher? The jobs market does not work in the way you think it does at all. The number of jobs available, people going in and out of work is a fluid number all the time constantly changing, so there is never a 20 jobs available, 20 unemployed people case scenario. Even more laughable when you try and portray a scenario as a 50% split on skilled and unskilled positions. Are you an English teacher by any chance just throwing together your next scheme of work for when you return to the classroom because this shite you're conjuring up is right out of a fantasy novel.

You've also failed to even consider the numerous other variables at play when considering the economic make up of the country but instead have tried to portray this idealistic scenario which suits your argument. Not to mention that its full of logical fallacies for a start. Unfortunately for you I studied a few economics modules through choice as part of my university degree because my eventual aim is to set up my own business. Thanks for providing us all with a good laugh though.

Now, please tell me what happens when your scenario is adjusted to reflect the real world whereby there is a mass number of overqualified people for jobs (many of whom are graduates), a mass number of unskilled positions available and numerous immigrants coming from all over the globe adding more competition to the labour market? Lets not even factor in all of the most complex variable such as those on maternity leave, those on long term sick etc.

What happens is, you get overqualified people (people with degrees) going into unskilled positions (flipping burgers) and thats how they get jobs because there aren't enough skilled jobs to be taken up by the skilled labour market. Who'd have ever thought that the concept of supply and demand would be so applicable to the jobs market? Who'd have thought such a basic economic principle would be applicable, aye? Now, that's exactly why you get graduates working at places like McDonalds because unfortunately not everyone can find a job as a computer forensics expert or a lawyer working in the city. That is the reality of the world so people take up jobs 'they're too overqualified to do' until the job they do want to do comes along.

You must have thought I was some young stupid teenager when you tried to fob me off with that economic dribble. You haven't got a clue.

I am a teacher because i have superb qualifications and an excellent teaching manner. Some students struggle to understand sometimes. A bit like you here, but i am patient.

The example I gave was a simplified version to explain how bottlenecks in unemployment are created by overqualified people taking jobs "beneath them". There is a finite amount of jobs, if there wasn't then unemployment wouldn't be in existence. There IS a % of skilled jobs and there IS a % of unskilled jobs. I couldn't tell you accurately what that % was however.

Your second paragraph seems to be a lot of posturing on your part without actually saying anything at all. It is not an idealistic scenario... It is the scenario. If skilled people take unskilled jobs then that job is off the market. Thus meaning an unemployed unskilled worker will stay unemployed and presumably claiming benefits. That is the way it works, you can deny it all you like but no module anybody takes regarding economics will tell them otherwise and that it just simply a fact.

You are being obtuse for the sake of it and taking an entirely relevant simple example and adding scenarios that do not need to be added to prove its legitimacy. If we had skilled people taking unskilled jobs and unemployment was non existent then you would have a point. However you are just saying reasons why skilled workers take unskilled jobs and not addressing the problems it causes. I am well aware people work in McDonalds with degrees for a short time. I have told you why i wont do this and that is firstly because i dont want to and secondly because it is (undeniably) bad for the economy and unemployment rates.

No i didn't think you were a child, i know exactly who you are James i have laughed at your uneducated nonsense for many years

I am a teacher because i have superb qualifications and an excellent teaching manner. Some students struggle to understand sometimes. A bit like you here, but i am patient.

Im a teacher as well you dunce. The difference is I teach in England where teaching standards are higher. Might want to up your game pal although I know thats going to be a bit hard with that inept Labour government telling you how things are.

The example I gave was a simplified version to explain how bottlenecks in unemployment are created by overqualified people taking jobs "beneath them". There is a finite amount of jobs, if there wasn't then unemployment wouldn't be in existence. There IS a % of skilled jobs and there IS a % of unskilled jobs. I couldn't tell you accurately what that % was however.

Very inaccurate as illustrated by the statements I made. Stop talking about something you have no clue about whatsoever.

Your second paragraph seems to be a lot of posturing on your part without actually saying anything at all. It is not an idealistic scenario... It is the scenario. If skilled people take unskilled jobs then that job is off the market. Thus meaning an unemployed unskilled worker will stay unemployed and presumably claiming benefits. That is the way it works, you can deny it all you like but no module anybody takes regarding economics will tell them otherwise and that it just simply a fact.

Yes, that is not what you initially said though. Now you have worded it in a way that is correct. It still doesn't validate your laziness and excuses that have been made in this discussion.

Im a teacher as well you dunce. The difference is I teach in England where teaching standards are higher. Might want to up your game pal although I know thats going to be a bit hard with that inept Labour government telling you how things are.

no you aren't James. We have many mutual friends. Andrew Mercer for one, shall I ask him?

Very inaccurate as illustrated by the statements I made. Stop talking about something you have no clue about whatsoever.

So you think there isn't a finite amount of jobs? Christ you are scary!

Yes, that is not what you initially said though. Now you have worded it in a way that is correct. It still doesn't validate your laziness and excuses that have been made in this discussion.

Thats exactly what I said James. There is no laziness in applying for teaching jobs and not accepting benefits I am entitled to.

no you aren't James. We have many mutual friends. Andrew Mercer for one, shall I ask him?

Urm, yes I am. I'm also a member of all three main unions. Also, I'm not friends with Andrew Mercer so unless you're looking at an old account, try again.

So you think there isn't a finite amount of jobs? Christ you are scary!

You're not very good at comprehending points now are you? What I said was that your initial statement did not state there was a finite number of jobs. You conjured up a complete fallacy of a scenario and then tried to pass it off as such. I agreed with your second statement which actually made more sense. Of course there are a finite number of jobs in circulation, unless of course you create your own, but we both know that is not an easy task.

Urm, yes I am. I'm also a member of all three main unions. Also, I'm not friends with Andrew Mercer so unless you're looking at an old account, try again.

What account? You are not a teacher, this is a fact! Want me to prove it in the morning I gladly will. Why you feel you have to lie i dont know.

You're not very good at comprehending points now are you? What I said was that your initial statement did not state there was a finite number of jobs. You conjured up a complete fallacy of a scenario and then tried to pass it off as such. I agreed with your second statement which actually made more sense. Of course there are a finite number of jobs in circulation, unless of course you create your own, but we both know that is not an easy task.

What, you reckon i only thought there was 20 jobs in the UK?

What was that about comprehending points? The fact I used a finite amount of jobs suggests i was making a point that there was a finite amount of jobs dont you think?

What account? You are not a teacher, this is a fact! Want me to prove it in the morning I gladly will. Why you feel you have to lie i dont know.

Here's part of my NUT membership card. You won't prove anything other than you are an idiot but we already knew that. I'm an ICT and Computing teacher. I graduated last year.

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Want me to continue posting more and prove you to be an even bigger fool than we already know you are? I can deliver on that as well. It'd be a waste of my time seeing as I have marking to get on with, schemes of work to plan and controlled assessments to moderate but I'm sure you have plenty of time now you're living a life on benefits.

What account? You are not a teacher, this is a fact! Want me to prove it in the morning I gladly will. Why you feel you have to lie i dont know.

Here's part of my NUT membership card. You won't prove anything other than you are an idiot but we already knew that. I'm an ICT and Computing teacher. I graduated last year.

Oh a NUT card? Must mean you are a fully fledged teacher then.

I know you aren't James and you have made yourself look the idiot already

What school do you teach at then? Im sure we can check your status as a fully fledged teacher then

Want me to continue posting more and prove you to be an even bigger fool than we already know you are? I can deliver on that as well. It'd be a waste of my time seeing as I have marking to get on with, schemes of work to plan and controlled assessments to moderate but I'm sure you have plenty of time now you're living a life on benefits.

Yes please. With your name on

We know you are lying, we have seem it here time and time again. This is no different and we know it.

So you have never taken drugs? Are you sure about that Adam? Lets not start lying now. Maybe you have now realised your stance couldn't be more hypocritical if it tried.

Im not refusing help fella, i am refusing to give YOU my details. The same way I would refuse to give The Chuckle brothers my name and address if they asked for it claiming they can help. I have seen your work and reputation and dont wish to be associated with you.

I don't need help to find a job, i am perfectly capable as I have told you.

You clearly aren't capable because you are out of work ?

What a nonsense thing to say. You were out of work when you were sacked as being a councillor. Yet you refuse to accept you were incapable. You are so thick it is frightening.

I am out of work because a school in Spain had its funding cut and the schools in my area currently don't have a position. Nothing to do with my superb CV.

No because when I was a Councillor I also had other work!!! Pmsl and you call me thick yet I'm the one who is working. I have learnt from a young age to make sure that you got more than one revenue stream so maybe I can teach you that given your current issue

Yes i call you thick. Working doesn't mean you are not thick. Which you clearly are.

Hence why you take drugs, assault police officers, threaten your tenants and cost us all a fortune in the process. And i don't believe you for a second that you werent unemployed

You have no proof that I take drugs and cost the tax payer a fortune beari in mind I saved the taxpayer millions so it's a profit after all the outgoings.
Do you really think a Councillor is a full time job ? At the time I was a councillor I was also a taxi driver and a director of a recruitment agency together with being on a Hotel Reception during the nights!!!
There is a lot to be said about ensuring that you have more than income stream to soften any blow which could come your way financially.

I know you aren't James and you have made yourself look the idiot already

And you know this how then? Im intrigued. You seem so certain yet you're so wrong. Also, of course I'm not going to post the school I work at on here with a bunch of strangers, especially not with you around. Just as you lied about me being friends with an Andrew Mercer as well. I know nobody by that name you whopper.

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So you have never taken drugs? Are you sure about that Adam? Lets not start lying now. Maybe you have now realised your stance couldn't be more hypocritical if it tried.

Im not refusing help fella, i am refusing to give YOU my details. The same way I would refuse to give The Chuckle brothers my name and address if they asked for it claiming they can help. I have seen your work and reputation and dont wish to be associated with you.

I don't need help to find a job, i am perfectly capable as I have told you.

You clearly aren't capable because you are out of work ?

What a nonsense thing to say. You were out of work when you were sacked as being a councillor. Yet you refuse to accept you were incapable. You are so thick it is frightening.

I am out of work because a school in Spain had its funding cut and the schools in my area currently don't have a position. Nothing to do with my superb CV.

No because when I was a Councillor I also had other work!!! Pmsl and you call me thick yet I'm the one who is working. I have learnt from a young age to make sure that you got more than one revenue stream so maybe I can teach you that given your current issue

Yes i call you thick. Working doesn't mean you are not thick. Which you clearly are.

Hence why you take drugs, assault police officers, threaten your tenants and cost us all a fortune in the process. And i don't believe you for a second that you werent unemployed

You have no proof that I take drugs and cost the tax payer a fortune beari in mind I saved the taxpayer millions so it's a profit after all the outgoings.
Do you really think a Councillor is a full time job ? At the time I was a councillor I was also a taxi driver and a director of a recruitment agency together with being on a Hotel Reception during the nights!!!
There is a lot to be said about ensuring that you have more than income stream to soften any blow which could come your way financially.

Like what? Photos?

Swear on your families life then and then we will take the statement to Chris and see if he agreed, sound fair?

So you have never taken drugs? Are you sure about that Adam? Lets not start lying now. Maybe you have now realised your stance couldn't be more hypocritical if it tried.

Im not refusing help fella, i am refusing to give YOU my details. The same way I would refuse to give The Chuckle brothers my name and address if they asked for it claiming they can help. I have seen your work and reputation and dont wish to be associated with you.

I don't need help to find a job, i am perfectly capable as I have told you.

You clearly aren't capable because you are out of work ?

What a nonsense thing to say. You were out of work when you were sacked as being a councillor. Yet you refuse to accept you were incapable. You are so thick it is frightening.

I am out of work because a school in Spain had its funding cut and the schools in my area currently don't have a position. Nothing to do with my superb CV.

No because when I was a Councillor I also had other work!!! Pmsl and you call me thick yet I'm the one who is working. I have learnt from a young age to make sure that you got more than one revenue stream so maybe I can teach you that given your current issue

Yes i call you thick. Working doesn't mean you are not thick. Which you clearly are.

Hence why you take drugs, assault police officers, threaten your tenants and cost us all a fortune in the process. And i don't believe you for a second that you werent unemployed

You have no proof that I take drugs and cost the tax payer a fortune beari in mind I saved the taxpayer millions so it's a profit after all the outgoings.
Do you really think a Councillor is a full time job ? At the time I was a councillor I was also a taxi driver and a director of a recruitment agency together with being on a Hotel Reception during the nights!!!
There is a lot to be said about ensuring that you have more than income stream to soften any blow which could come your way financially.

Like what? Photos?

Swear on your families life then and then we will take the statement to Chris and see if he agreed, sound fair?

I will sware on my families life after you out your name and address on here so that I can check that you have registered with the teaching agencies

I know you aren't James and you have made yourself look the idiot already

And you know this how then? Im intrigued. You seem so certain yet you're so wrong. Also, of course I'm not going to post the school I work at on here with a bunch of strangers, especially not with you around. Just as you lied about me being friends with an Andrew Mercer as well. I know nobody by that name you whopper.

Because I know you, you whopper

So you dont know anybody called andrew mercer yet defensively claim "it must be an old account" whatever that means

He certainly knows you

I will sware on my families life after you out your name and address on here so that I can check that you have registered with the teaching agencies

You reckon I'm going to give an untrustworthy criminal my name and address? Yeah ok Adam.

So we will take that as you lying then

And its swear not sware ffs

Because I know you, you whopper

So you dont know anybody called andrew mercer yet defensively claim "it must be an old account" whatever that means

He certainly knows you

So what do I do then if you know me so well.......

Because I know you, you whopper

So you dont know anybody called andrew mercer yet defensively claim "it must be an old account" whatever that means

He certainly knows you

So what do I do then if you know me so well.......

That would be telling, im quite enjoying you hanging yourself.

That would be telling, im quite enjoying you hanging yourself.

Ah so more lies then. You haven't got a clue.

That would be telling, im quite enjoying you hanging yourself.

Ah so more lies then. You haven't got a clue.

Yes a load of lies it seems, teacher ffs give over James

That would be telling, im quite enjoying you hanging yourself.

Ah so more lies then. You haven't got a clue.

Yes a load of lies it seems, teacher ffs give over James

So what do I do then?

That would be telling, im quite enjoying you hanging yourself.

Ah so more lies then. You haven't got a clue.

Yes a load of lies it seems, teacher ffs give over James

So what do I do then?

Haven't we already done that one?

Yep, definitely not a teacher.

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I will sware on my families life after you out your name and address on here so that I can check that you have registered with the teaching agencies

You reckon I'm going to give an untrustworthy criminal my name and address? Yeah ok Adam.

So we will take that as you lying then

And its swear not sware ffs

Who's lying ? The fact that you have been battered in this topic quite clearly shows that you arent no teacher

Who's lying ? The fact that you have been battered in this topic quite clearly shows that you arent no teacher

Neither am I apparently.

Yep, definitely not a teacher.

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James you are not a fully fledged teacher. I know this for a fact, it is embarrassing you posting these things considering I know you. My supply teacher has one of them and she works one day a week.

I will sware on my families life after you out your name and address on here so that I can check that you have registered with the teaching agencies

You reckon I'm going to give an untrustworthy criminal my name and address? Yeah ok Adam.

So we will take that as you lying then

And its swear not sware ffs

Who's lying ? The fact that you have been battered in this topic quite clearly shows that you arent no teacher

You are lying and have been ruined as per usual. Are you ready to swear on your families lives about your drug use then?

And if i "arent no teacher" that means I am you utter whopper

Yep, definitely not a teacher.

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James you are not a fully fledged teacher. I know this for a fact, it is embarrassing you posting these things considering I know you. My supply teacher has one of them and she works one day a week.

Yeah, I work 5 days a week starting Monday and finishing Friday. I'll be sure to mention this in staff briefing though. And yes I am a teacher, I am just not a qualified teacher. Still recognised nationally as a teacher hence why I can be called a teacher. I have not once claimed to be a qualified teacher.