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Re: ' Update Sunday 4th Jan 2015 Consortium '

Mon Jan 05, 2015 3:02 pm

wez1927 wrote:
LoneRanger44 wrote:
Nuclearblue wrote:The Consortium has not been fully put together yet as they are talking to major money men. In the coming months many more meetings will be held including the 3rd week this January :thumbright: :bluescarf:

First of all thank you to a good Friend who I discussed this with in depth before putting this out. Cardiff City are dear to my heart and I was starting to feel it was wrong for me to be putting these out and it was getting to me. Others before me who had put out exclusives or updates did so in a completely different way, they were much more careful with making sure the contents were correct and would happen. Me well I'm just sodding reckless, if I hear I will try and verify them but basically they are high risk and can change at any time as I put them out as its happening. And I was thinking am I doing the right thing ? So cheers Chief you know who you are.

Now yesterday I put out the exclusive regarding a potential buy out and said the info had only just come to me and I felt that things would change, things would need tweaking as more or different information came in, and this has proved to be the case.
Information I got is spot on but when it comes to figures then it will always be contentious. The information recieved was from one side, now I recieved information from a big source on the other side, it does contradict a bit what the update I put out yesterday but it also confirms what is happening.

So again late last night I recieved info from Malaysia on what has been happening from there perspective.
Vincent Tan has laughed at the. Contact from the so called " consortium" packaged together by Sam Hammam. My information recieved informed me from Malaysia directly that Tan actually chuckled after first contact was made by a third party. The amount offered was a one off cash payment of 42 million up front with a note that the consortium felt it was a fair price for a mid championship club going nowhere but further down the league. The note also contained the price will drop by each less league position . It's believed whilst Sam Hammam had held several meetings only a small percentage were interested. Vincent Tan scoffed at the offer as ludicrous and has told staff not to allow further nonsense parties to contact him.
Tan felt this consortium was out to try and destabilise the current owners.

Now with information that I have including and some I can't put out, this is MY thoughts on reading between the lines on what has happened, so please these are only my personal thoughts on wha has happened so don't shoot me.

Sullivan the Brother of business Man Dave of West Ham is an ardent Cardiff City Fan and he contacted Sam to get together a consortium to buy out Vincent Tan. Sam then spoke to several potential investors as I put out but I think he was unsuccessful in these approaches. (Be honest now if you wasn't a fan off CCFC would you buy in to this Club that has become a global joke ?)
But now was left with money raised by Mr Sullivan and it dosent need spelling out where the money came from. But it is nowhere near the amount that is required to persuade Tan to sell up, and I feel they don't have any more access to anymore funds I believe to be around 50 mill. But the big question is what is the figure that Tan would sit up and listen ? That I don't think anyone can answer apart from Tan. So we are hearing two different amounts being banded about 100 mill from one and a 45 mill offer put up from another but being told 50 mill is all they have.
But there was two consortiums and was also told the first one is dead in the water as the main player has now different agendas to put together. So Sam and Sullivan is the only one and unless more funding can be made available this will just stumble again


Nuk

whoever your getting your info from is spot on. Basicailly Tan was insulted and doesn't like Sam and the price was a complete joke, As spoke to one of Tan advisors last night who said that Tan could more money than what the consortium offered him by stripping the club of their assets, Selling the big named players this month also taking some of the parchute payments. I was also told if any person was interested in buying our club he would start listening with an offer of a min £80m. I have also told that Tan will not be puuting anymore money into the club so the players coming in will be loan deals and buying playing on the cheap like Scott Malone for £100,000 - (bottom championship or league 1) on low wages. but a little more than what they are currently on and players will come as Cardiff is a big club with big followings. Nuk what you have to realise is Tan isnt going anywhere until he gets offered a competive price. the £50m Tan would sell if we got relegated to league 1.

But why would you pay £80m for Cardiff would you could buy Aston Villa for near enough the same money. ps Tan is a very stubborn man. everything has to be on his terms.

Aston villa are not up for sale for 80 million more like 200+ I did put a link up a few weeks ago about it



wez think its the beginning of the end for tan! As once take over rumours start always end up happening At some point , just down to cost in end! :thumbup:

Re: ' Update Sunday 4th Jan 2015 Consortium '

Mon Jan 05, 2015 3:09 pm

pembroke allan wrote:
wez1927 wrote:
LoneRanger44 wrote:
Nuclearblue wrote:The Consortium has not been fully put together yet as they are talking to major money men. In the coming months many more meetings will be held including the 3rd week this January :thumbright: :bluescarf:

First of all thank you to a good Friend who I discussed this with in depth before putting this out. Cardiff City are dear to my heart and I was starting to feel it was wrong for me to be putting these out and it was getting to me. Others before me who had put out exclusives or updates did so in a completely different way, they were much more careful with making sure the contents were correct and would happen. Me well I'm just sodding reckless, if I hear I will try and verify them but basically they are high risk and can change at any time as I put them out as its happening. And I was thinking am I doing the right thing ? So cheers Chief you know who you are.

Now yesterday I put out the exclusive regarding a potential buy out and said the info had only just come to me and I felt that things would change, things would need tweaking as more or different information came in, and this has proved to be the case.
Information I got is spot on but when it comes to figures then it will always be contentious. The information recieved was from one side, now I recieved information from a big source on the other side, it does contradict a bit what the update I put out yesterday but it also confirms what is happening.

So again late last night I recieved info from Malaysia on what has been happening from there perspective.
Vincent Tan has laughed at the. Contact from the so called " consortium" packaged together by Sam Hammam. My information recieved informed me from Malaysia directly that Tan actually chuckled after first contact was made by a third party. The amount offered was a one off cash payment of 42 million up front with a note that the consortium felt it was a fair price for a mid championship club going nowhere but further down the league. The note also contained the price will drop by each less league position . It's believed whilst Sam Hammam had held several meetings only a small percentage were interested. Vincent Tan scoffed at the offer as ludicrous and has told staff not to allow further nonsense parties to contact him.
Tan felt this consortium was out to try and destabilise the current owners.

Now with information that I have including and some I can't put out, this is MY thoughts on reading between the lines on what has happened, so please these are only my personal thoughts on wha has happened so don't shoot me.

Sullivan the Brother of business Man Dave of West Ham is an ardent Cardiff City Fan and he contacted Sam to get together a consortium to buy out Vincent Tan. Sam then spoke to several potential investors as I put out but I think he was unsuccessful in these approaches. (Be honest now if you wasn't a fan off CCFC would you buy in to this Club that has become a global joke ?)
But now was left with money raised by Mr Sullivan and it dosent need spelling out where the money came from. But it is nowhere near the amount that is required to persuade Tan to sell up, and I feel they don't have any more access to anymore funds I believe to be around 50 mill. But the big question is what is the figure that Tan would sit up and listen ? That I don't think anyone can answer apart from Tan. So we are hearing two different amounts being banded about 100 mill from one and a 45 mill offer put up from another but being told 50 mill is all they have.
But there was two consortiums and was also told the first one is dead in the water as the main player has now different agendas to put together. So Sam and Sullivan is the only one and unless more funding can be made available this will just stumble again


Nuk

whoever your getting your info from is spot on. Basicailly Tan was insulted and doesn't like Sam and the price was a complete joke, As spoke to one of Tan advisors last night who said that Tan could more money than what the consortium offered him by stripping the club of their assets, Selling the big named players this month also taking some of the parchute payments. I was also told if any person was interested in buying our club he would start listening with an offer of a min £80m. I have also told that Tan will not be puuting anymore money into the club so the players coming in will be loan deals and buying playing on the cheap like Scott Malone for £100,000 - (bottom championship or league 1) on low wages. but a little more than what they are currently on and players will come as Cardiff is a big club with big followings. Nuk what you have to realise is Tan isnt going anywhere until he gets offered a competive price. the £50m Tan would sell if we got relegated to league 1.

But why would you pay £80m for Cardiff would you could buy Aston Villa for near enough the same money. ps Tan is a very stubborn man. everything has to be on his terms.

Aston villa are not up for sale for 80 million more like 200+ I did put a link up a few weeks ago about it



wez think its the beginning of the end for tan! As once take over rumours start always end up happening At some point , just down to cost in end! :thumbup:

If it does happen just hope the debt goes or we will be another porstmouth

Re: ' Update Sunday 4th Jan 2015 Consortium '

Mon Jan 05, 2015 4:34 pm

wez1927 wrote:
pembroke allan wrote:
wez1927 wrote:
LoneRanger44 wrote:
Nuclearblue wrote:The Consortium has not been fully put together yet as they are talking to major money men. In the coming months many more meetings will be held including the 3rd week this January :thumbright: :bluescarf:

First of all thank you to a good Friend who I discussed this with in depth before putting this out. Cardiff City are dear to my heart and I was starting to feel it was wrong for me to be putting these out and it was getting to me. Others before me who had put out exclusives or updates did so in a completely different way, they were much more careful with making sure the contents were correct and would happen. Me well I'm just sodding reckless, if I hear I will try and verify them but basically they are high risk and can change at any time as I put them out as its happening. And I was thinking am I doing the right thing ? So cheers Chief you know who you are.

Now yesterday I put out the exclusive regarding a potential buy out and said the info had only just come to me and I felt that things would change, things would need tweaking as more or different information came in, and this has proved to be the case.
Information I got is spot on but when it comes to figures then it will always be contentious. The information recieved was from one side, now I recieved information from a big source on the other side, it does contradict a bit what the update I put out yesterday but it also confirms what is happening.

So again late last night I recieved info from Malaysia on what has been happening from there perspective.
Vincent Tan has laughed at the. Contact from the so called " consortium" packaged together by Sam Hammam. My information recieved informed me from Malaysia directly that Tan actually chuckled after first contact was made by a third party. The amount offered was a one off cash payment of 42 million up front with a note that the consortium felt it was a fair price for a mid championship club going nowhere but further down the league. The note also contained the price will drop by each less league position . It's believed whilst Sam Hammam had held several meetings only a small percentage were interested. Vincent Tan scoffed at the offer as ludicrous and has told staff not to allow further nonsense parties to contact him.
Tan felt this consortium was out to try and destabilise the current owners.

Now with information that I have including and some I can't put out, this is MY thoughts on reading between the lines on what has happened, so please these are only my personal thoughts on wha has happened so don't shoot me.

Sullivan the Brother of business Man Dave of West Ham is an ardent Cardiff City Fan and he contacted Sam to get together a consortium to buy out Vincent Tan. Sam then spoke to several potential investors as I put out but I think he was unsuccessful in these approaches. (Be honest now if you wasn't a fan off CCFC would you buy in to this Club that has become a global joke ?)
But now was left with money raised by Mr Sullivan and it dosent need spelling out where the money came from. But it is nowhere near the amount that is required to persuade Tan to sell up, and I feel they don't have any more access to anymore funds I believe to be around 50 mill. But the big question is what is the figure that Tan would sit up and listen ? That I don't think anyone can answer apart from Tan. So we are hearing two different amounts being banded about 100 mill from one and a 45 mill offer put up from another but being told 50 mill is all they have.
But there was two consortiums and was also told the first one is dead in the water as the main player has now different agendas to put together. So Sam and Sullivan is the only one and unless more funding can be made available this will just stumble again


Nuk

whoever your getting your info from is spot on. Basicailly Tan was insulted and doesn't like Sam and the price was a complete joke, As spoke to one of Tan advisors last night who said that Tan could more money than what the consortium offered him by stripping the club of their assets, Selling the big named players this month also taking some of the parchute payments. I was also told if any person was interested in buying our club he would start listening with an offer of a min £80m. I have also told that Tan will not be puuting anymore money into the club so the players coming in will be loan deals and buying playing on the cheap like Scott Malone for £100,000 - (bottom championship or league 1) on low wages. but a little more than what they are currently on and players will come as Cardiff is a big club with big followings. Nuk what you have to realise is Tan isnt going anywhere until he gets offered a competive price. the £50m Tan would sell if we got relegated to league 1.

But why would you pay £80m for Cardiff would you could buy Aston Villa for near enough the same money. ps Tan is a very stubborn man. everything has to be on his terms.

Aston villa are not up for sale for 80 million more like 200+ I did put a link up a few weeks ago about it



wez think its the beginning of the end for tan! As once take over rumours start always end up happening At some point , just down to cost in end! :thumbup:

If it does happen just hope the debt goes or we will be another porstmouth


Debt be gone but at what cost? Cheap team cheap manager will we be able to progress without money Unless of course Mr slim Is still on agenda?

Re: ' Update Sunday 4th Jan 2015 Consortium '

Mon Jan 05, 2015 4:38 pm

pembroke allan wrote:
LoneRanger44 wrote:
Nuclearblue wrote:The Consortium has not been fully put together yet as they are doing to major money men. In the coming months many more meetings will be held including the 3rd week this January :thumbright: :bluescarf:

First of all thank you to a good Friend who I discussed this with in depth before putting this out. Cardiff City are dear to my heart and I was starting to feel it was wrong for me to be putting these out and it was getting to me. Others before me who had put out exclusives or updates did so in a completely different way, they were much more careful with making sure the contents were correct and would happen. Me well I'm just sodding reckless, if I hear I will try and verify them but basically they are high risk and can change at any time as I put them out as its happening. And I was thinking am I doing the right thing ? So cheers Chief you know who you are.

Now yesterday I put out the exclusive regarding a potential buy out and said the info had only just come to me and I felt that things would change, things would need tweaking as more or different information came in, and this has proved to be the case.
Information I got is spot on but when it comes to figures then it will always be contentious. The information recieved was from one side, now I recieved information from a big source on the other side, it does contradict a bit what the update I put out yesterday but it also confirms what is happening.

So again late last night I recieved info from Malaysia on what has been happening from there perspective.
Vincent Tan has laughed at the. Contact from the so called " consortium" packaged together by Sam Hammam. My information recieved informed me from Malaysia directly that Tan actually chuckled after first contact was made by a third party. The amount offered was a one off cash payment of 42 million up front with a note that the consortium felt it was a fair price for a mid championship club going nowhere but further down the league. The note also contained the price will drop by each less league position . It's believed whilst Sam Hammam had held several meetings only a small percentage were interested. Vincent Tan scoffed at the offer as ludicrous and has told staff not to allow further nonsense parties to contact him.
Tan felt this consortium was out to try and destabilise the current owners.

Now with information that I have including and some I can't put out, this is MY thoughts on reading between the lines on what has happened, so please these are only my personal thoughts on wha has happened so don't shoot me.

Sullivan the Brother of business Man Dave of West Ham is an ardent Cardiff City Fan and he contacted Sam to get together a consortium to buy out Vincent Tan. Sam then spoke to several potential investors as I put out but I think he was unsuccessful in these approaches. (Be honest now if you wasn't a fan off CCFC would you buy in to this Club that has become a global joke ?)
But now was left with money raised by Mr Sullivan and it dosent need spelling out where the money came from. But it is nowhere near the amount that is required to persuade Tan to sell up, and I feel they don't have any more access to anymore funds I believe to be around 50 mill. But the big question is what is the figure that Tan would sit up and listen ? That I don't think anyone can answer apart from Tan. So we are hearing two different amounts being banded about 100 mill from one and a 45 mill offer put up from another but being told 50 mill is all they have.
But there was two consortiums and was also told the first one is dead in the water as the main player has now different agendas to put together. So Sam and Sullivan is the only one and unless more funding can be made available this will just stumble again


Nuk

whoever your getting your info from is spot on. Basicailly Tan was insulted and doesn't like Sam and the price was a complete joke, As spoke to one of Tan advisors last night who said that Tan could more money than what the consortium offered him by stripping the club of their assets, Selling the big named players this month also taking some of the parchute payments. I was also told if any person was interested in buying our club he would start listening with an offer of a min £80m. I have also told that Tan will not be puuting anymore money into the club so the players coming in will be loan deals and buying playing on the cheap like Scott Malone for £100,000 - (bottom championship or league 1) on low wages. but a little more than what they are currently on and players will come as Cardiff is a big club with big followings. Nuk what you have to realise is Tan isnt going anywhere until he gets offered a competive price. the £50m Tan would sell if we got relegated to league 1.

But why would you pay £80m for Cardiff would you could buy Aston Villa for near enough the same money. ps Tan is a very stubborn man. everything has to be on his terms.



Only problem with villa is that its so well established is there much slack to increase turnover streams? also need to pay decent money to get players in much more than with city at the moment, With city there is large scope to expand turnover over longer period time so spreading cost! I thinkers that Is a better proposition for investors. :old:


I agree with you because if any investor buys Tan out and coverts us back to blue with original badge he would get easier 25k week in week out maybe full houses and would sell more blue merchandise so would generate a profit.

if Tan doesnt listen we will set up AFC Cardiff play at the Athletic stadium with the blue kit with yellow like the old 60s 70s kit and i can guarantee we would get 5000 fans home game charge £6 that £30,000 each gate and would get more revenue through sponsorship and sports sale and do a AFC Wimbledon this this has legs as well, would be able to run the club on the scale of Salford City ( and be able to pay good money for good part time players.)

what you think. could be do it.

Re: ' Update Sunday 4th Jan 2015 Consortium '

Mon Jan 05, 2015 4:43 pm

LoneRanger44 wrote:
pembroke allan wrote:
LoneRanger44 wrote:
Nuclearblue wrote:The Consortium has not been fully put together yet as they are doing to major money men. In the coming months many more meetings will be held including the 3rd week this January :thumbright: :bluescarf:

First of all thank you to a good Friend who I discussed this with in depth before putting this out. Cardiff City are dear to my heart and I was starting to feel it was wrong for me to be putting these out and it was getting to me. Others before me who had put out exclusives or updates did so in a completely different way, they were much more careful with making sure the contents were correct and would happen. Me well I'm just sodding reckless, if I hear I will try and verify them but basically they are high risk and can change at any time as I put them out as its happening. And I was thinking am I doing the right thing ? So cheers Chief you know who you are.

Now yesterday I put out the exclusive regarding a potential buy out and said the info had only just come to me and I felt that things would change, things would need tweaking as more or different information came in, and this has proved to be the case.
Information I got is spot on but when it comes to figures then it will always be contentious. The information recieved was from one side, now I recieved information from a big source on the other side, it does contradict a bit what the update I put out yesterday but it also confirms what is happening.

So again late last night I recieved info from Malaysia on what has been happening from there perspective.
Vincent Tan has laughed at the. Contact from the so called " consortium" packaged together by Sam Hammam. My information recieved informed me from Malaysia directly that Tan actually chuckled after first contact was made by a third party. The amount offered was a one off cash payment of 42 million up front with a note that the consortium felt it was a fair price for a mid championship club going nowhere but further down the league. The note also contained the price will drop by each less league position . It's believed whilst Sam Hammam had held several meetings only a small percentage were interested. Vincent Tan scoffed at the offer as ludicrous and has told staff not to allow further nonsense parties to contact him.
Tan felt this consortium was out to try and destabilise the current owners.

Now with information that I have including and some I can't put out, this is MY thoughts on reading between the lines on what has happened, so please these are only my personal thoughts on wha has happened so don't shoot me.

Sullivan the Brother of business Man Dave of West Ham is an ardent Cardiff City Fan and he contacted Sam to get together a consortium to buy out Vincent Tan. Sam then spoke to several potential investors as I put out but I think he was unsuccessful in these approaches. (Be honest now if you wasn't a fan off CCFC would you buy in to this Club that has become a global joke ?)
But now was left with money raised by Mr Sullivan and it dosent need spelling out where the money came from. But it is nowhere near the amount that is required to persuade Tan to sell up, and I feel they don't have any more access to anymore funds I believe to be around 50 mill. But the big question is what is the figure that Tan would sit up and listen ? That I don't think anyone can answer apart from Tan. So we are hearing two different amounts being banded about 100 mill from one and a 45 mill offer put up from another but being told 50 mill is all they have.
But there was two consortiums and was also told the first one is dead in the water as the main player has now different agendas to put together. So Sam and Sullivan is the only one and unless more funding can be made available this will just stumble again


Nuk

whoever your getting your info from is spot on. Basicailly Tan was insulted and doesn't like Sam and the price was a complete joke, As spoke to one of Tan advisors last night who said that Tan could more money than what the consortium offered him by stripping the club of their assets, Selling the big named players this month also taking some of the parchute payments. I was also told if any person was interested in buying our club he would start listening with an offer of a min £80m. I have also told that Tan will not be puuting anymore money into the club so the players coming in will be loan deals and buying playing on the cheap like Scott Malone for £100,000 - (bottom championship or league 1) on low wages. but a little more than what they are currently on and players will come as Cardiff is a big club with big followings. Nuk what you have to realise is Tan isnt going anywhere until he gets offered a competive price. the £50m Tan would sell if we got relegated to league 1.

But why would you pay £80m for Cardiff would you could buy Aston Villa for near enough the same money. ps Tan is a very stubborn man. everything has to be on his terms.



Only problem with villa is that its so well established is there much slack to increase turnover streams? also need to pay decent money to get players in much more than with city at the moment, With city there is large scope to expand turnover over longer period time so spreading cost! I thinkers that Is a better proposition for investors. :old:


I agree with you because if any investor buys Tan out and coverts us back to blue with original badge he would get easier 25k week in week out maybe full houses and would sell more blue merchandise so would generate a profit.

if Tan doesnt listen we will set up AFC Cardiff play at the Athletic stadium with the blue kit with yellow like the old 60s 70s kit and i can guarantee we would get 5000 fans home game charge £6 that £30,000 each gate and would get more revenue through sponsorship and sports sale and do a AFC Wimbledon this this has legs as well, would be able to run the club on the scale of Salford City ( and be able to pay good money for good part time players.)

what you think. could be do it.
set up a rival club think your living in dreamland if you think your get crowds of 5000 we could nt get that playing in blue not so long ago