" KEEPING THE PRESSURE ON VINCENT TAN "

If you're not prepared to boycott even now, you'll never be prepared. Your choice of course but very disappointed just as we got the momentum you come out with this.

No blue no renew you can still wear your blue outside every game to show your passion don't need to be an empty stadium of tan Coventry fans did it

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If you're not prepared to boycott even now, you'll never be prepared. Your choice of course but very disappointed just as we got the momentum you come out with this.

Agreed. The bit where Carl states " we must choose are battle carefully and not enter a battle we can not win" says it all for me. In my opinion he's scared of the outcome of tan pulls out as it seems his post is half hearted on one hand he don't like what's gone on which tan WIll not change clearly as stated and the next it's renew your season ticket and keep it blue. That's not going to work as proven over the years already. Each to there own but that makes no sence to me as we are already in a BATTLE.

Personally I feel the argument about filling Tans pockets is a sign of accepting his re-brand is not at all strong.

If I boycotted Tan would not miss my money one bit. So giving him a few pennies to keep the stadium proper blue is a price worth paying. I know Tan hates seeing the blue in his own back yard and he would be quite happy having crowds of around 10,000 wearing predominant red.

More of the red fans will leave than blue. Most of them are new supporters, they needed to buy a season ticket for a guaranteed FA cup final, League cup final, Playoff final, Premiership season ticket, next season they won't need one.

Season tickets will drop next year regardless because of the new fans above, and old fans bored of the modern family boring no atmosphere experience.........

If you're not prepared to boycott even now, you'll never be prepared. Your choice of course but peaceful disappointed just as we got the momentum you come out with this. [/quotI'm s
Agreed. The bit where Carl states " we must choose are battle carefully and not enter a battle we can not win" says it all for me. In my opinion he's scared of the outcome of tan pulls out as it seems his post is half hearted on one hand he don't like what's gone on which tan WIll not change clearly as stated and the next it's renew your season ticket and keep it blue. That's not going to work as proven over the years already. Each to there own but that makes no sence to me as we are already in a BATTLE.

Carl also.says unless there are blue fans in the ground he will go unchallenged and do as he likes, what like putting in red seats and stopping peaceful forms of free speech. Carl also says if we draw the jacks and boycott "now that's a protest" . I don't agree. The only protest that this c**t will listen to is a total boycott. We all know it deep down.

Very disappointed with both Carl and Annis here. 100% no blue no renew is the way forward!!!! Both seem to be bottling it a little when we need to be making a statement. Short term pain for long term gain, please don't bottle it you two - please don't.

I tend to agree with you.
The excuse of showing the support inside the stadium is nonsense IMO.
The 19:27 is pretty poor (I never fail to join in) although all around me people just sit around & show nothing! The Canton is getting emptier all the time & the singing - always be Blue & Tan out is virtually non-existent.
NoBlueNoRenew is the only way I believe.

Like you say Saddles - short term pain for long term gain. Perhaps some people don't want it as bad as they make out but it's their prerogative. We missed the boat once, NOW is the time to act positively & aggressively.
Such a shame.

a very divisive issue, I see both sides. I actually agree with both sides and I personally think it comes down to preference.

Nobody can be blamed for not wanting to give the club any more money on the turnstiles until the club starts treating them with respect and changes back to Blue.

I also agree that the presence of Blue is needed in the stands, and affirmative action to be continued to keep the pressure on.

This will come down to the individual what they wish to do.

a very divisive issue, I see both sides. I actually agree with both sides and I personally think it comes down to preference.

Nobody can be blamed for not wanting to give the club any more money on the turnstiles until the club starts treating them with respect and changes back to Blue.

I also agree that the presence of Blue is needed in the stands, and affirmative action to be continued to keep the pressure on.

This will come down to the individual what they wish to do.

That's how I look at it. Each has it's disadvantages and advantages.

I can't see the guy ever setting foot in the ground again and as such , protests in the ground are a waste of time . No blue no renew for me .

Very disappointed with both Carl and Annis here. 100% no blue no renew is the way forward!!!! Both seem to be bottling it a little when we need to be making a statement. Short term pain for long term gain, please don't bottle it you two - please don't.

I tend to agree with you.
The excuse of showing the support inside the stadium is nonsense IMO.
The 19:27 is pretty poor (I never fail to join in) although all around me people just sit around & show nothing! The Canton is getting emptier all the time & the singing - always be Blue & Tan out is virtually non-existent.
NoBlueNoRenew is the only way I believe.

Like you say Saddles - short term pain for long term gain. Perhaps some people don't want it as bad as they make out but it's their prerogative. We missed the boat once, NOW is the time to act positively & aggressively.
Such a shame.

You've put this well, we've somehow found ourselves with another opportunity here, an opportunity I never thought we would get. It's disappointing that some won't grab this chance with both hands. No blue no renew or preferably a total boycott is our only realistic chance of seeing the City run out of that tunnel in blue next August.

Certain supporters are making renew or not a personal choice, which it should not be, those supporters with the most influence "fans leaders" did not stand up enough in the first place, they did not lead and that's one reason why we are where we are today. This is another opportunity to stand together, make sacrifices and try to make a difference, yet now, already we cannot agree on a way forward. I hope I'm wrong, but I fear that those high profile long time supporters such are more interested in protecting their own record of having a consecative season ticket for the last 40 years over taking a real moral stance. It reminds me of when we played up at Leeds a few years ago and many of our supporters wanted all City fans to boycott as, they were sick and tired of being treated like animals, having bubble trips installed for no other reason other than the authorities could. The majority did boycott, yet there were still 150 who refused, stating that it was their choice and they would always follow City no matter what. A situation without one City fan would have made a statement, yet individuals saw themselves as more important than the collective. Unfortunately, City fans have always been like that.

Well put & explains that the high profile fans may have their own agenda's as opposed to the aggressive stance that is needed.
This is second chance & shouldn't be thrown away if you truly want it.

Certain supporters are making renew or not a personal choice, which it should not be, those supporters with the most influence "fans leaders" did not stand up enough in the first place, they did not lead and that's one reason why we are where we are today. This is another opportunity to stand together, make sacrifices and try to make a difference, yet now, already we cannot agree on a way forward. I hope I'm wrong, but I fear that those high profile long time supporters such are more interested in protecting their own record of having a consecative season ticket for the last 40 years over taking a real moral stance. It reminds me of when we played up at Leeds a few years ago and many of our supporters wanted all City fans to boycott as, they were sick and tired of being treated like animals, having bubble trips installed for no other reason other than the authorities could. The majority did boycott, yet there were still 150 who refused, stating that it was their choice and they would always follow City no matter what. A situation without one City fan would have made a statement, yet individuals saw themselves as more important than the collective. Unfortunately, City fans have always been like that.

great post

I think some supporters egos are a bigger issue than whats going on at our club, i have been a fan since the seventies and the only way out of this mess is not to renew,i have seen some bad times over the years but never ever thought about not getting a season ticket but the whole experience is crap, if only a few thousand went down this road the crowds would drop to under ten thousand surely that would show tan that enough is enough.

Seems to me the ones trying to force the no renew agenda onto others aren't renewing anyway,probably because the football's poor at the moment,not a lot to do with the rebrand.
It's got to be said those not renewing now did so after we were rebranded

Life for Tan and the club would be made a lot easier if certain fans just walked away.

I think the only protest is not to renew, I'm not renewing but that's not a protest, I just don't want to renew. But I think it's the only thing that the club will notice.

Time to stand up and be counted, Dont renew until rebrand reversed , empty ground will speak volumes , and we can still protest.... we have all supported the club for years , but its time to clearly send Tan and the club a message , enoughs enough....

Carl Totally I agree with your posting.
What really baffles me is Tan's a multi-billionaire and he has made that money by making good business decisions, engaging quality personnel in key positions with the knowledge who make him the money, he must have otherwise he would not be where he is today, Yet he seams to make no sense at all with his decision-making about principle personnel within the club, on the commercial and football side. His decision-making is costing himself money which will go against the grain!!

Very disappointed with both Carl and Annis here. 100% no blue no renew is the way forward!!!! Both seem to be bottling it a little when we need to be making a statement. Short term pain for long term gain, please don't bottle it you two - please don't.

I tend to agree with you.
The excuse of showing the support inside the stadium is nonsense IMO.
The 19:27 is pretty poor (I never fail to join in) although all around me people just sit around & show nothing! The Canton is getting emptier all the time & the singing - always be Blue & Tan out is virtually non-existent.
NoBlueNoRenew is the only way I believe.

Like you say Saddles - short term pain for long term gain. Perhaps some people don't want it as bad as they make out but it's their prerogative. We missed the boat once, NOW is the time to act positively & aggressively.
Such a shame.

Two good posts and I agree no renew is the only way to send the message across as nothing else will work as proven as for them who want to keep turning up take whatever comes from tan but don't moan about it as your supporting it. Simple as that.

Carl and annis are getting it on mikes board in a thread

The Lone Gunman said ....
So predictable.

Let's be honest, nobody seriously believed that a man with no principles would give up his Echo column, the cash he earns from his coach trips and his position as a self-appointed superfan on a matter of principle, did they?

Curtis thrives on the attention he gets from his sycophants on AAMB, journalists and club officials. The chances of him doing the right thing were always zero.

No blue no renew you can still wear your blue outside every game to show your passion don't need to be an empty stadium of tan Coventry fans did it

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Carl and annis are getting it on mikes board in a thread

The Lone Gunman said ....
So predictable.

Let's be honest, nobody seriously believed that a man with no principles would give up his Echo column, the cash he earns from his coach trips and his position as a self-appointed superfan on a matter of principle, did they?

Curtis thrives on the attention he gets from his sycophants on AAMB, journalists and club officials. The chances of him doing the right thing were always zero.

viewtopic.php?f=2&t=152352

Why isn't this thread locked anymore?

Carl and annis are getting it on mikes board in a thread

The Lone Gunman said ....
So predictable.

Let's be honest, nobody seriously believed that a man with no principles would give up his Echo column, the cash he earns from his coach trips and his position as a self-appointed superfan on a matter of principle, did they?

Curtis thrives on the attention he gets from his sycophants on AAMB, journalists and club officials. The chances of him doing the right thing were always zero.

Yes I have heard people accuse this guy of being bitter but good grief.

Why isn't this thread locked anymore?

Its not locked? If it were you would not be able to reply

I meant why isn't it a "stickie"

Carl and annis are getting it on mikes board in a thread

The Lone Gunman said ....
So predictable.

Let's be honest, nobody seriously believed that a man with no principles would give up his Echo column, the cash he earns from his coach trips and his position as a self-appointed superfan on a matter of principle, did they?

Curtis thrives on the attention he gets from his sycophants on AAMB, journalists and club officials. The chances of him doing the right thing were always zero.

Yes I have heard people accuse this guy of being bitter but good grief.

Yes very bitter imo, that bitterness should be aimed at VT not the fans with backbone who stood and fought and who are still fighting, waving their blue scarfs.

#nobluenorenew

its the only option now