' Consortium possibility to take over Cardiff City '

Just for fun, what about 'Dalman ' ?

He won't have the funds himself, but might know those who have.

Dalman is already running the show.

I know Dalman is tarnished by having worked for the present regime but I actually rate and, to a degree, trust him. OK he made a major cock up appointing OGS but he did well is attracting such a high profile manager in the first place and tried to broker a truce between Tan, Malky and the fans last December.

I believe Dalman is far more involved, he also has his nose in another company of Tans in London.

dont believe this for a second

dont believe this for a second

same seems way to good to be true with back to blue/badge but also the ends switching I believe it when I see it

I did not buy a ST this year because of that man's disdain for us fans however I would gladly renew if blue sense and the badge return, at the moment we are The Malaysian Dragons in all but name.I personally know over a dozen who are not renewing some have been ST holders all their lives...what a mess!

Just for fun, what about 'Dalman ' ?

He won't have the funds himself, but might know those who have.

Lawnmower you are a bright guy and Dalman is in talks with this person and persons Dalman has got nearly £10m of his own money invested in the club. The problem is Tan I am told he has agreed to sell but only for £80m the consortium has offered him £60m. Which is the price he wanted if the club get relegation. Dalman has worked out that if he can get a new consortium in and they changed us back to were we were the club will be backing more money and he will see a return on his investor and stay as chairman of the club

A businessman with connections is trying to get a consortium together to buy Vincent Tan out . Didn't call him tw*t )
I am told the first thing he would do is return us to Blue and reinstate our rightful badge with the Bluebird being the prominent image. There is an urgent need which has been identified and that is the atmosphere at the CCS and I am told the Grange end and Canton could be swapped around to help remedy this problem.
Right I do not know who it is and even if I did I am told it could put the whole thing in doubt so I wouldn't say even if I knew.
This is in the very early stages so may not even come off but it's good to hear that others could be interested.

Is he also going to sack Slade and appoint Pullis, and give us £100million in the next window, free drinks and food every game, and free season tickets, good old Santa

It would not surprise if a consortium involving Hammam or other individuals with former links to the club is putting plans in place to bid for the club. It doesn't mean they will succeed.

There has clearly been a shift in approach by Tan over the past few months. Opting for Slade over a more high profile manager, mutually terminating player contracts, and generally cost cutting across the board. That is not the attitude of a man who wants to get back into the Premier League. That is a man who wants to limit the outgoings in order to make the sale of the club more appealing to potential buyers and to also limit the damage on his own pocket until he sells the club for a fee that will limit his losses.

I'm not sure how I'd feel about Hammam being part of a consortium bid. There is no denying that we did enjoy some good times with the club during his tenure. It ended bitterly but if he was involved in a more advisory role and stayed away from the financial side then maybe there's a chance his positive attributes could be harnessed. At least with Hammam we would know what we are getting so would be aware of any potential issues. Imagine someone like Tan buying the club from Tan? Someone without as much money but still backing the rebrand.

Ideally, I would want someone other than Hammam but the grim reality is that there are much worse potential owners out there than a consortium involving Hammam.

there are much worse potential owners out there than a consortium involving Hammam.

Really ? There are many City and Wimbledon fans that would question "Who ?"

It would not surprise if a consortium involving Hammam or other individuals with former links to the club is putting plans in place to bid for the club. It doesn't mean they will succeed.

There has clearly been a shift in approach by Tan over the past few months. Opting for Slade over a more high profile manager, mutually terminating player contracts, and generally cost cutting across the board. That is not the attitude of a man who wants to get back into the Premier League. That is a man who wants to limit the outgoings in order to make the sale of the club more appealing to potential buyers and to also limit the damage on his own pocket until he sells the club for a fee that will limit his losses.

I'm not sure how I'd feel about Hammam being part of a consortium bid. There is no denying that we did enjoy some good times with the club during his tenure. It ended bitterly but if he was involved in a more advisory role and stayed away from the financial side then maybe there's a chance his positive attributes could be harnessed. At least with Hammam we would know what we are getting so would be aware of any potential issues. Imagine someone like Tan buying the club from Tan? Someone without as much money but still backing the rebrand.

Ideally, I would want someone other than Hammam but the grim reality is that there are much worse potential owners out there than a consortium involving Hammam.

Hammam is like a Tan,

Hammam allegedly held the club at ransom for more money when we were at deaths door and on the verge of the club dying.

Tan may be killing the clubs soul, Hammam held our club which was in its last breath at ransom with a cocked pistol at our head wanting more and more to hand us back over so it could be saved and brought back to life. No matter what he did, and what great days he gave us, it came within minutes of us not having a club due to his reckless ownership.

You're naturally going to get excited with takeover rumours but it's important to remember that it could be anyone. Tan's reign did oversee a historic promotion to the Premier League but it appeared to be at the expense of the club's history which, let's face it, is unforgivable.

Hereford fans were delighted when David Keyte sold up but now look at them. No more.

WO!!!!!!

This rumour is seriously winding me up and is now dominating my thoughts when I should be concentrating on crimbo!!!!! Thats how much our identity means to so many of us. If the rebrand gets reversed and we have full identity restored, the club will be reunited, spirit reenergised, and our tolerance levels will have no limits!!!!!

I am done with red and the selfish ignorant Tan, NO BLUE NO RENEW however, a takeover wouldn't be necessary if he just reversed the rebrand and stayed, I would dig very deep and try to forgive and forget as I don't think any consortium would provide a transfer kitty like Vinnie can! In an ideal world though he will be well gone and the new owner of Bristol City Dragons

Don't you mean Bristol City Bluejays?

Talk is its Sam hamman but he hasn't got enough money to buy tataout maybe Annis could confirm that it is him

Unreal criticism of Borley on here. A man who is more Cardiff City than many of you appreciate. If it were not for Borley we would arguable not have a club today.

To be honest, if tan said "looks folks, I'm sorry, I funked up. We'll go back to our old colours and badge. Let's carry on" id be happy with that. I've not forgotten that his cash kept us going and got us to the prem.

For me his other choices are stupid maybe, but not something I get worked up over. It's the rebrand and his pigheadedness and refusal to listen to fans/customers which gets my back up

Unreal criticism of Borley on here. A man who is more Cardiff City than many of you appreciate. If it were not for Borley we would arguable not have a club today.

most of the fans having ago weren't around years ago and don't realise that borely is a top bloke

Unreal criticism of Borley on here. A man who is more Cardiff City than many of you appreciate. If it were not for Borley we would arguable not have a club today.

SB did loads of great work for the club over the years. To many of us he was a true local hero - Mr Cardiff City. To say he blotted his copy book over the rebrand saga is an understatement. His behaviour on social networking forums and his shameless scaremongering was a disgrace. When we needed a voice of calm in the early days of the saga he spent his time belittling people and spreading the 'red or dead' lie. Images of Borley dancing around in his red wig on the day of the open top bus tour are an insult to those of us who watched the club home and away for many years but felt compelled to boycott when we felt that the club's identity was being wrecked.

So no, I'm afraid Borley was a hero, but in the eyes of many of us he isn't anymore. His behaviour when the rebrand first came to light is one of the major reasons why the club is a soulless shadow of its former self. If there is any truth in the takeover rumours I hope he is not involved in any capacity.

Unreal criticism of Borley on here. A man who is more Cardiff City than many of you appreciate. If it were not for Borley we would arguable not have a club today.

SB did loads of great work for the club over the years. To many of us he was a true local hero - Mr Cardiff City. To say he blotted his copy book over the rebrand saga is an understatement. His behaviour on social networking forums and his shameless scaremongering was a disgrace. When we needed a voice of calm in the early days of the saga he spent his time belittling people and spreading the 'red or dead' lie. Images of Borley dancing around in his red wig on the day of the open top bus tour are an insult to those of us who watched the club home and away for many years but felt compelled to boycott when we felt that the club's identity was being wrecked.

So no, I'm afraid Borley was a hero, but in the eyes of many of us he isn't anymore. His behaviour when the rebrand first came to light is one of the major reasons why the club is a soulless shadow of its former self. If there is any truth in the takeover rumours I hope he is not involved in any capacity.

How do you know it was a lie ?

Let us pray

Unreal criticism of Borley on here. A man who is more Cardiff City than many of you appreciate. If it were not for Borley we would arguable not have a club today.

SB did loads of great work for the club over the years. To many of us he was a true local hero - Mr Cardiff City. To say he blotted his copy book over the rebrand saga is an understatement. His behaviour on social networking forums and his shameless scaremongering was a disgrace. When we needed a voice of calm in the early days of the saga he spent his time belittling people and spreading the 'red or dead' lie. Images of Borley dancing around in his red wig on the day of the open top bus tour are an insult to those of us who watched the club home and away for many years but felt compelled to boycott when we felt that the club's identity was being wrecked.

So no, I'm afraid Borley was a hero, but in the eyes of many of us he isn't anymore. His behaviour when the rebrand first came to light is one of the major reasons why the club is a soulless shadow of its former self. If there is any truth in the takeover rumours I hope he is not involved in any capacity.

How do you know it was a lie ?

The chief executive Alan Whiteley (at the refunders meeting) said it wasn't 'red or dead' and believe me he was pressed on it, particularly by Dave Sugarman. Likewise, unless I've missed it, at no time did the Malaysians say it was red or dead. Aside from a few high profile and very influential fans and of course, the 'people's director' screaming from the roof tops that it was rebrand or die, there is no evidence to suggest it was accept the rebrand or fold. If you have evidence to the contrary I'd like to hear it.

As things stand it could be red and dead at some point.

Unreal criticism of Borley on here. A man who is more Cardiff City than many of you appreciate. If it were not for Borley we would arguable not have a club today.

SB did loads of great work for the club over the years. To many of us he was a true local hero - Mr Cardiff City. To say he blotted his copy book over the rebrand saga is an understatement. His behaviour on social networking forums and his shameless scaremongering was a disgrace. When we needed a voice of calm in the early days of the saga he spent his time belittling people and spreading the 'red or dead' lie. Images of Borley dancing around in his red wig on the day of the open top bus tour are an insult to those of us who watched the club home and away for many years but felt compelled to boycott when we felt that the club's identity was being wrecked.

So no, I'm afraid Borley was a hero, but in the eyes of many of us he isn't anymore. His behaviour when the rebrand first came to light is one of the major reasons why the club is a soulless shadow of its former self. If there is any truth in the takeover rumours I hope he is not involved in any capacity.

How do you know it was a lie ?

The chief executive Alan Whiteley (at the refunders meeting) said it wasn't 'red or dead' and believe me he was pressed on it, particularly by Dave Sugarman. Likewise, unless I've missed it, at no time did the Malaysians say it was red or dead. Aside from a few high profile and very influential fans and of course, the 'people's director' screaming from the roof tops that it was rebrand or die, there is no evidence to suggest it was accept the rebrand or fold. If you have evidence to the contrary I'd like to hear it.

As things stand it could be red and dead at some point.

Correct Phil, I was there and I also asked Alan Whitley myself and he said it was not Red or Dead, that saying and lies was put out by the Red Brigade

Unreal criticism of Borley on here. A man who is more Cardiff City than many of you appreciate. If it were not for Borley we would arguable not have a club today.

SB did loads of great work for the club over the years. To many of us he was a true local hero - Mr Cardiff City. To say he blotted his copy book over the rebrand saga is an understatement. His behaviour on social networking forums and his shameless scaremongering was a disgrace. When we needed a voice of calm in the early days of the saga he spent his time belittling people and spreading the 'red or dead' lie. Images of Borley dancing around in his red wig on the day of the open top bus tour are an insult to those of us who watched the club home and away for many years but felt compelled to boycott when we felt that the club's identity was being wrecked.

So no, I'm afraid Borley was a hero, but in the eyes of many of us he isn't anymore. His behaviour when the rebrand first came to light is one of the major reasons why the club is a soulless shadow of its former self. If there is any truth in the takeover rumours I hope he is not involved in any capacity.

How do you know it was a lie ?

The chief executive Alan Whiteley (at the refunders meeting) said it wasn't 'red or dead' and believe me he was pressed on it, particularly by Dave Sugarman. Likewise, unless I've missed it, at no time did the Malaysians say it was red or dead. Aside from a few high profile and very influential fans and of course, the 'people's director' screaming from the roof tops that it was rebrand or die, there is no evidence to suggest it was accept the rebrand or fold. If you have evidence to the contrary I'd like to hear it.

As things stand it could be red and dead at some point.

Correct Phil, I was there and I also asked Alan Whitley myself and he said it was not Red or Dead, that saying and lies was put out by the Red Brigade

Tbh Annis no one knows what our fate would have been before tan? But as you say high profile people were not honest with what they said at time! I believe it was admin at best for us then, new consortium I'm bit sceptical as no outside word about it?

Unreal criticism of Borley on here. A man who is more Cardiff City than many of you appreciate. If it were not for Borley we would arguable not have a club today.

SB did loads of great work for the club over the years. To many of us he was a true local hero - Mr Cardiff City. To say he blotted his copy book over the rebrand saga is an understatement. His behaviour on social networking forums and his shameless scaremongering was a disgrace. When we needed a voice of calm in the early days of the saga he spent his time belittling people and spreading the 'red or dead' lie. Images of Borley dancing around in his red wig on the day of the open top bus tour are an insult to those of us who watched the club home and away for many years but felt compelled to boycott when we felt that the club's identity was being wrecked.

So no, I'm afraid Borley was a hero, but in the eyes of many of us he isn't anymore. His behaviour when the rebrand first came to light is one of the major reasons why the club is a soulless shadow of its former self. If there is any truth in the takeover rumours I hope he is not involved in any capacity.

How do you know it was a lie ?

The chief executive Alan Whiteley (at the refunders meeting) said it wasn't 'red or dead' and believe me he was pressed on it, particularly by Dave Sugarman. Likewise, unless I've missed it, at no time did the Malaysians say it was red or dead. Aside from a few high profile and very influential fans and of course, the 'people's director' screaming from the roof tops that it was rebrand or die, there is no evidence to suggest it was accept the rebrand or fold. If you have evidence to the contrary I'd like to hear it.

As things stand it could be red and dead at some point.

Correct Phil, I was there and I also asked Alan Whitley myself and he said it was not Red or Dead, that saying and lies was put out by the Red Brigade

Tbh Annis no one knows what our fate would have been before tan? But as you say high profile people were not honest with what they said at time! I believe it was admin at best for us then, new consortium I'm bit sceptical as no outside word about it?

Thats the real Truth Allan, No one really knows what would of happened.

As to the Consortium,I just know its at very early stages.

We luvs the consortium we dooz - oh consortium we luvs yooz

If/when this happens, there is an ideal opportunity to take on board (literally) at least a rep from the trust and maybe offer a real stake in the club. This would be a massive statement of intent. Obviously a return to blue and the proper badge will be a huge morale booster.

Unreal criticism of Borley on here. A man who is more Cardiff City than many of you appreciate. If it were not for Borley we would arguable not have a club today.

SB did loads of great work for the club over the years. To many of us he was a true local hero - Mr Cardiff City. To say he blotted his copy book over the rebrand saga is an understatement. His behaviour on social networking forums and his shameless scaremongering was a disgrace. When we needed a voice of calm in the early days of the saga he spent his time belittling people and spreading the 'red or dead' lie. Images of Borley dancing around in his red wig on the day of the open top bus tour are an insult to those of us who watched the club home and away for many years but felt compelled to boycott when we felt that the club's identity was being wrecked.

So no, I'm afraid Borley was a hero, but in the eyes of many of us he isn't anymore. His behaviour when the rebrand first came to light is one of the major reasons why the club is a soulless shadow of its former self. If there is any truth in the takeover rumours I hope he is not involved in any capacity.

How do you know it was a lie ?

The chief executive Alan Whiteley (at the refunders meeting) said it wasn't 'red or dead' and believe me he was pressed on it, particularly by Dave Sugarman. Likewise, unless I've missed it, at no time did the Malaysians say it was red or dead. Aside from a few high profile and very influential fans and of course, the 'people's director' screaming from the roof tops that it was rebrand or die, there is no evidence to suggest it was accept the rebrand or fold. If you have evidence to the contrary I'd like to hear it.

As things stand it could be red and dead at some point.

Correct Phil, I was there and I also asked Alan Whitley myself and he said it was not Red or Dead, that saying and lies was put out by the Red Brigade

Tbh Annis no one knows what our fate would have been before tan? But as you say high profile people were not honest with what they said at time! I believe it was admin at best for us then, new consortium I'm bit sceptical as no outside word about it?

Thats the real Truth Allan, No one really knows what would of happened.

As to the Consortium,I just know its at very early stages.

if it's borrowed money and not there own I'm very worried ,at least tan has billions

God forbid The Riddler!!!!!!!!!

Unreal criticism of Borley on here. A man who is more Cardiff City than many of you appreciate. If it were not for Borley we would arguable not have a club today.

SB did loads of great work for the club over the years. To many of us he was a true local hero - Mr Cardiff City. To say he blotted his copy book over the rebrand saga is an understatement. His behaviour on social networking forums and his shameless scaremongering was a disgrace. When we needed a voice of calm in the early days of the saga he spent his time belittling people and spreading the 'red or dead' lie. Images of Borley dancing around in his red wig on the day of the open top bus tour are an insult to those of us who watched the club home and away for many years but felt compelled to boycott when we felt that the club's identity was being wrecked.

So no, I'm afraid Borley was a hero, but in the eyes of many of us he isn't anymore. His behaviour when the rebrand first came to light is one of the major reasons why the club is a soulless shadow of its former self. If there is any truth in the takeover rumours I hope he is not involved in any capacity.

How do you know it was a lie ?

The chief executive Alan Whiteley (at the refunders meeting) said it wasn't 'red or dead' and believe me he was pressed on it, particularly by Dave Sugarman. Likewise, unless I've missed it, at no time did the Malaysians say it was red or dead. Aside from a few high profile and very influential fans and of course, the 'people's director' screaming from the roof tops that it was rebrand or die, there is no evidence to suggest it was accept the rebrand or fold. If you have evidence to the contrary I'd like to hear it.

As things stand it could be red and dead at some point.

Correct Phil, I was there and I also asked Alan Whitley myself and he said it was not Red or Dead, that saying and lies was put out by the Red Brigade

Annis as you are itk, can you confirm in your opinion from what you know do these guys have significant financial clout (in football terms) or are they walking around shaking buckets at people.

Annis...are they mega rich?

Annis...are they mega rich?

I'm going for the football equivalent of having just enough and any buy out is likely to lead to us owing Tan something. He'll then use that to drive us out of business, he doesn't seem to let things go. I have a feeling this will run and run...