Supporters club bus DISGRACE

Begs the question what happens if a 11 year old or say under was left behind?

^^^^. Important point Dando!!

It seems that these teenagers want to be considered as adults, but then pull the young age "card" when things go wrong.

Truth is that if they need to be children, take their parents!!!

Begs the question what happens if a 11 year old or say under was left behind?

Do 11 year olds travel to away games unsupervised?... this is a genuine question, because I'd be a bit shocked if they did.

Many in this thread have jumped on the back of this teenager, at first I was going to defend him, my thinking is that you just don't leave teenagers stranded like that.. you just quickly jump off the bus and give them a bollocking and get them back on the bus sharpish (maybe 5 mins late). However, it seems quite clear that Vince Alm went to lengths to make it clear to everyone there wasn't time for queuing for burgers and went into W H Smith's too.

The coach HAD to leave on time due to time constraints, I think the important factor here is that Vince Alm knew there would be another coach to take these teenagers home. Their little asses must have been twitching when they saw the coach pulling away, but the bottom line is THEY failed to adhere to what they were told AND Vince knew they'd be taken home on another bus.

... important life lesson learnt for these young lads.

Why do you need 22 mins? We would have had a piss and robbed the place in 10 mins on the old rams buses

When I was 17 I use to go to away games in 2nd hand well worn tansit fans. We considered it lucky if we managed to get back home that weekend. many times the poor vans broke down leaving in the middle of nowhere.

[b]Today these young ones want everything on a place, luxury air conditioned travel, 5 star service stations and they whinge about missing the time slot. These youngsters of today are turning out to be a right bunch of poofs.[b/][/quote]

they didnt say they wanted any of that. just not for a bunch of basically children to be knowingly left in a random services.

oh btw, classy use of an outdated homophobic slur....keeping it mature as ever baked

What a f*cking tool this teen is. maybe next time sort your own transport and ticket out then and see if a national Train/bus driver will wait for you if you decide to go into WH SMiths and buy your porn mags!!!

I have gone to nearly every away on the train, never missed one.

Maybe because you know that train drivers leave on time and yesterday you and your mates thought you'd take the piss but second place you got in the end

Don't usually agree with you but I think you've hit the nail on the head here.

the kid was obviously in the wrong but i feel he'd have got a lot less stick if he hadn't mentioned his age.

it seems any time someone on this board mentions they are a young person all the "old guard" seem to think its a crime in itself and give them so much shit, i've seen it way to many times and its pathetic, this "kids today..." attitude makes you look like a bunch of sad old men.

is it not entirely possible that this young lad didn't make the bus in time because he's an idiot? or ignorant? and not because he's a teen

the kid was obviously in the wrong but i feel he'd have got a lot less stick if he hadn't mentioned his age.

it seems any time someone on this board mentions they are a young person all the "old guard" seem to think its a crime in itself and give them so much shit, i've seen it way to many times and its pathetic, this "kids today..." attitude makes you look like a bunch of sad old men.

is it not entirely possible that this young lad didn't make the bus in time because he's an idiot? or ignorant? and not because he's a teen

Or maybe I had been told not to que up for food in the services (Hilton Park?) on the way up there, then I was unable to get food before the game due to the delays, the all I could get at half time was a bag of crisps. So I hadn't eaten really since the morning. So maybe I was taking a f*cking chance to get something to eat, and considering at the last service station I saw others queuing up I thought Id give it a go.

Absolutely love some of these comments;

by JonCCFC » Sun Aug 10, 2014 7:26 pm
Glad Vince has finally come out and completely demolished this kid.
The less kids on the supporters coaches wasting time the better.

Yes Jon, lets ban all kids from games, they just aren't the future of our club are they1

by Military Junta » Sun Aug 10, 2014 9:54 pm
What a f*cking tool this teen is.

You are by far the biggest tool most people have been unfortunate enough to hear spout off about absolute cr*p.

by Woodville Willie » Mon Aug 11, 2014 2:12 am
It seems that these teenagers want to be considered as adults, but then pull the young age "card" when things go wrong.

I thought teenagers just wanted to be treated normally, you know, like people,.


Don't have a go at the youngsters just because your now no longer "young". Jealousy is a deplorable trait.

Get over yourself you f*cking idiot.

Iv'e traveled with Vince a few times in the past although not for a 3-4 years. I find it very hard to believe he would leave you after two minutes. You probably kept the bus waiting for ten minutes or over.

Here f*cking here oldman here here, these buck tooth teens have not lived yet lets be honest

Sorry Uncle Albert. Give us another War-time story would ya?

Glad Vince has finally come out and completely demolished this kid.

The less kids on the supporters coaches wasting time the better.

And the less away fans will go in the future, nice one.

Yes, I'm sure hundreds and hundreds of teenagers will now stop going to away games after this one incident (which turned out to be your fault) and will be missed terribly.

I'm referring to your comment that you want less young away fans. It's only logic that you would see less away fans in the future.

Glad Vince has finally come out and completely demolished this kid.

The less kids on the supporters coaches wasting time the better.

And the less away fans will go in the future, nice one.

Yes, I'm sure hundreds and hundreds of teenagers will now stop going to away games after this one incident (which turned out to be your fault) and will be missed terribly.

I'm referring to your comment that you want less young away fans. It's only logic that you would see less away fans in the future.

He's not that older himself so I genuinely have no idea

Makes you wonder why Vince, Carl and others bother when you got tossers like this little scrote mouthing off on a message board. People who are late paying, don't pay at all, late for wheels etc. Can't see how it is worth their while tbh.

Maximum respect for all you organisers.

No respect for you you little shit.

I have paid in full thanks sounds like someone's bitter due to a few grey hairs!

the kid was obviously in the wrong but i feel he'd have got a lot less stick if he hadn't mentioned his age.

it seems any time someone on this board mentions they are a young person all the "old guard" seem to think its a crime in itself and give them so much shit, i've seen it way to many times and its pathetic, this "kids today..." attitude makes you look like a bunch of sad old men.

is it not entirely possible that this young lad didn't make the bus in time because he's an idiot? or ignorant? and not because he's a teen

Or maybe I had been told not to que up for food in the services (Hilton Park?) on the way up there, then I was unable to get food before the game due to the delays, the all I could get at half time was a bag of crisps. So I hadn't eaten really since the morning. So maybe I was taking a f*cking chance to get something to eat, and considering at the last service station I saw others queuing up I thought Id give it a go.

the consensus is pretty clear, 20 minutes and a warning is plenty. i just think people would be a little bit more sypathetic if u were say, a dad with his 2 young kids

Glad Vince has finally come out and completely demolished this kid.

The less kids on the supporters coaches wasting time the better.

And the less away fans will go in the future, nice one.

Yes, I'm sure hundreds and hundreds of teenagers will now stop going to away games after this one incident (which turned out to be your fault) and will be missed terribly.

I'm referring to your comment that you want less young away fans. It's only logic that you would see less away fans in the future.

He's not that older himself so I genuinely have no idea

Any chance to have a go at someone on this forum and people are on it like Adeyemi on a lose ball.

A fly on shit in other words.

Glad Vince has finally come out and completely demolished this kid.

The less kids on the supporters coaches wasting time the better.

And the less away fans will go in the future, nice one.

Yes, I'm sure hundreds and hundreds of teenagers will now stop going to away games after this one incident (which turned out to be your fault) and will be missed terribly.

I'm referring to your comment that you want less young away fans. It's only logic that you would see less away fans in the future.

I didn't say that I want less young away fans, I'm young myself, I said "the less kids on the supporters coaches wasting time the better"

Glad Vince has finally come out and completely demolished this kid.

The less kids on the supporters coaches wasting time the better.

And the less away fans will go in the future, nice one.

Yes, I'm sure hundreds and hundreds of teenagers will now stop going to away games after this one incident (which turned out to be your fault) and will be missed terribly.

I'm referring to your comment that you want less young away fans. It's only logic that you would see less away fans in the future.

I didn't say that I want less young away fans, I'm young myself, I said "the less kids on the supporters coaches wasting time the better"

I didn't waste anytime mate, the bus left

Glad Vince has finally come out and completely demolished this kid.

The less kids on the supporters coaches wasting time the better.

And the less away fans will go in the future, nice one.

Yes, I'm sure hundreds and hundreds of teenagers will now stop going to away games after this one incident (which turned out to be your fault) and will be missed terribly.

I'm referring to your comment that you want less young away fans. It's only logic that you would see less away fans in the future.

He's not that older himself so I genuinely have no idea

Any chance to have a go at someone on this forum and people are on it like Adeyemi on a loose ball.

A fly on shit in other words.

Wasn't it you who started the mud slinging?

So let me get this right, you started a thread to slag off Vince and the Supporter's Club, then accuse people of taking up any chance to have a go at you, for having a go at somebody else?

Glad Vince has finally come out and completely demolished this kid.

The less kids on the supporters coaches wasting time the better.

And the less away fans will go in the future, nice one.

Yes, I'm sure hundreds and hundreds of teenagers will now stop going to away games after this one incident (which turned out to be your fault) and will be missed terribly.

I'm referring to your comment that you want less young away fans. It's only logic that you would see less away fans in the future.

I didn't say that I want less young away fans, I'm young myself, I said "the less kids on the supporters coaches wasting time the better"

I didn't waste anytime mate, the bus left

Good

Glad Vince has finally come out and completely demolished this kid.

The less kids on the supporters coaches wasting time the better.

And the less away fans will go in the future, nice one.

Yes, I'm sure hundreds and hundreds of teenagers will now stop going to away games after this one incident (which turned out to be your fault) and will be missed terribly.

I'm referring to your comment that you want less young away fans. It's only logic that you would see less away fans in the future.

He's not that older himself so I genuinely have no idea

Any chance to have a go at someone on this forum and people are on it like Adeyemi on a loose ball.

A fly on shit in other words.

Wasn't it you who started the mud slinging?

So let me get this right, you started a thread to slag off Vince and the Supporter's Club, then accuse people of taking up any chance to have a go at you, for having a go at somebody else?

If you read my original post I don't slag off anyone, I describe the events. Yes my topic header says disgrace, but any advocation of breaking the law is.

Glad Vince has finally come out and completely demolished this kid.

The less kids on the supporters coaches wasting time the better.

And the less away fans will go in the future, nice one.

Yes, I'm sure hundreds and hundreds of teenagers will now stop going to away games after this one incident (which turned out to be your fault) and will be missed terribly.

I'm referring to your comment that you want less young away fans. It's only logic that you would see less away fans in the future.

He's not that older himself so I genuinely have no idea

Any chance to have a go at someone on this forum and people are on it like Adeyemi on a loose ball.

A fly on shit in other words.

Wasn't it you who started the mud slinging?

So let me get this right, you started a thread to slag off Vince and the Supporter's Club, then accuse people of taking up any chance to have a go at you, for having a go at somebody else?

If you read my original post I don't slag off anyone, I describe the events. Yes my topic header says disgrace, but any advocation of breaking the law is.

just put down the shovel mate. you missed the bus and luckily you got home safe and sound, lesson learned. don't go labeling the supporters club a disgrace because you couldn't get to the bus on time. they do amazing work in being a bridge between the fans and the club and a lot of work is put it. you've had your say but its clear there was no wrongdoing by the supporters club

Not wanting to add fuel to the flames but what if the person has a medical condition and is a few minutes late due to using the toilet or whatever? Just wondering that's all. We've all been there in the past in being a few minutes late, that's why I go on to train or get on a local transit now, saves the hassle of events like this. Can see both sides of the coin.

Not wanting to add fuel to the flames but what if the person has a medical condition and is a few minutes late due to using the toilet or whatever? Just wondering that's all. We've all been there in the past in being a few minutes late, that's why I go on to train or get on a local transit now, saves the hassle of events like this. Can see both sides of the coin.

then i'd imagine they'd make the coach driver/trip organiser aware of this beforehand to make allowances as i doubt that would be the first time this was an issue.

don't wanna speak for him but thats what i'd do...i'm sure allowances would be made

Cannot fault the work Vince Alm et al do to help fans of our clubs attend games. I've heard some right stories about how they've been let down, screwed over, and had to deal with idiots that it makes me have an unlimited amount of respect for what they do.

In this instance, it's a simple case of a group of young lads not listening to instructions and now being pissed off because they have to suffer the consequences. It is a life lesson. I am amazed Vince even gave this topic the time of his day to reply so credit to him for that. I appreciate that the original poster must have been pissed off but by the sounds of how events played out there really is no case for defence in not getting back to the coach in time, particularly given the reminders that were shouted out.

Some people really do need to understand how operations like these away trips work to avoid having something like this happen to them. Whether it's 2 minutes or 20 minutes, the fact you lads were the only ones who weren't back on the bus in time says it all. Just suck it up and accept you ballsed up. It's all part of growing up.

These are very strong allegations which I find difficult to believe how did you all eventually get home from England? I am sure there is a rational explanation for this .

Corky the rational explanation is that they were late for wheels.

I effing hate selfish twats who keep everyone else waiting.

Lesson learnt hopefully.

THIS^^^^^^^^^^

Makes you wonder why Vince, Carl and others bother when you got tossers like this little scrote mouthing off on a message board. People who are late paying, don't pay at all, late for wheels etc. Can't see how it is worth their while tbh.

Maximum respect for all you organisers.

No respect for you you little shit.

I have paid in full thanks sounds like someone's bitter due to a few grey hairs!

I didn't say you hadn't paid. Read it again.

What I said was that three of the biggest annoyances when organising trips (I have experience) is people not paying, late paying or late for wheels. You were one of them three.

Judging by your attitude I'm starting to think those on the coach would have been pleased you didn't back on. Surely could have ate at Half time or before the game. Just moan, moan, moan. You are practically an adult. Act like it.

Btw I am not yet greying and am not jealous of you in any way, shape or form. I wish you were my kid in a way as I would've beaten respect into you a long time ago.

Makes you wonder why Vince, Carl and others bother when you got tossers like this little scrote mouthing off on a message board. People who are late paying, don't pay at all, late for wheels etc. Can't see how it is worth their while tbh.

Maximum respect for all you organisers.

No respect for you you little shit.

I have paid in full thanks sounds like someone's bitter due to a few grey hairs!

I didn't say you hadn't paid. Read it again.

What I said was that three of the biggest annoyances when organising trips (I have experience) is people not paying, late paying or late for wheels. You were one of them three.

Judging by your attitude I'm starting to think those on the coach would have been pleased you didn't back on. Surely could have ate at Half time or before the game. Just moan, moan, moan. You are practically an adult. Act like it.

Btw I am not yet greying and am not jealous of you in any way, shape or form. I wish you were my kid in a way as I would've beaten respect into you a long time ago.

Your tone toward a young lad is unnecessary. Calling a kid a "little shit" what a brave thing to do.

Makes you wonder why Vince, Carl and others bother when you got tossers like this little scrote mouthing off on a message board. People who are late paying, don't pay at all, late for wheels etc. Can't see how it is worth their while tbh.

Maximum respect for all you organisers.

No respect for you you little shit.

I have paid in full thanks sounds like someone's bitter due to a few grey hairs!

I didn't say you hadn't paid. Read it again.

What I said was that three of the biggest annoyances when organising trips (I have experience) is people not paying, late paying or late for wheels. You were one of them three.

Judging by your attitude I'm starting to think those on the coach would have been pleased you didn't back on. Surely could have ate at Half time or before the game. Just moan, moan, moan. You are practically an adult. Act like it.

Btw I am not yet greying and am not jealous of you in any way, shape or form. I wish you were my kid in a way as I would've beaten respect into you a long time ago.

Your tone toward a young lad is unnecessary. Calling a kid a "little shit" what a brave thing to do.

I'm perfectly reasonable to those that deserve it. I'm hardly alone in my lack of patience with this lad. He brings it on himself.

Makes you wonder why Vince, Carl and others bother when you got tossers like this little scrote mouthing off on a message board. People who are late paying, don't pay at all, late for wheels etc. Can't see how it is worth their while tbh.

Maximum respect for all you organisers.

No respect for you you little shit.

I have paid in full thanks sounds like someone's bitter due to a few grey hairs!

I didn't say you hadn't paid. Read it again.

What I said was that three of the biggest annoyances when organising trips (I have experience) is people not paying, late paying or late for wheels. You were one of them three.

Judging by your attitude I'm starting to think those on the coach would have been pleased you didn't back on. Surely could have ate at Half time or before the game. Just moan, moan, moan. You are practically an adult. Act like it.

Btw I am not yet greying and am not jealous of you in any way, shape or form. I wish you were my kid in a way as I would've beaten respect into you a long time ago.

Your tone toward a young lad is unnecessary. Calling a kid a "little shit" what a brave thing to do.

i started off defending hiom a bit, but tbf the way he's acted is "little shit"-esq.

if he's old enough to go to away games alone then he's old enough to be held responsible for his actions. and certainly old enough to have people call him out when he comes on here making accusations about a well respected man and the supporters club

...the little shit

Makes you wonder why Vince, Carl and others bother when you got tossers like this little scrote mouthing off on a message board. People who are late paying, don't pay at all, late for wheels etc. Can't see how it is worth their while tbh.

Maximum respect for all you organisers.

No respect for you you little shit.

I have paid in full thanks sounds like someone's bitter due to a few grey hairs!

I didn't say you hadn't paid. Read it again.

What I said was that three of the biggest annoyances when organising trips (I have experience) is people not paying, late paying or late for wheels. You were one of them three.

Judging by your attitude I'm starting to think those on the coach would have been pleased you didn't back on. Surely could have ate at Half time or before the game. Just moan, moan, moan. You are practically an adult. Act like it.

Btw I am not yet greying and am not jealous of you in any way, shape or form. I wish you were my kid in a way as I would've beaten respect into you a long time ago.

Your tone toward a young lad is unnecessary. Calling a kid a "little shit" what a brave thing to do.

i started off defending hiom a bit, but tbf the way he's acted is "little shit"-esq.

if he's old enough to go to away games alone then he's old enough to be held responsible for his actions. and certainly old enough to have people call him out when he comes on here making accusations about a well respected man and the supporters club

...the little shit

Well said.

Vince your slightly wrong... Driver can only drive for ten hours... 15 spread over..

Glad Vince has finally come out and completely demolished this kid.

The less kids on the supporters coaches wasting time the better.

And the less away fans will go in the future, nice one.

Yes, I'm sure hundreds and hundreds of teenagers will now stop going to away games after this one incident (which turned out to be your fault) and will be missed terribly.

I'm referring to your comment that you want less young away fans. It's only logic that you would see less away fans in the future.

He's not that older himself so I genuinely have no idea

Any chance to have a go at someone on this forum and people are on it like Adeyemi on a loose ball.

A fly on shit in other words.

Wasn't it you who started the mud slinging?

So let me get this right, you started a thread to slag off Vince and the Supporter's Club, then accuse people of taking up any chance to have a go at you, for having a go at somebody else?

If you read my original post I don't slag off anyone, I describe the events. Yes my topic header says disgrace, but any advocation of breaking the law is.

Erm, you certainly DID "slag off" in your OP, fella, and I have watched with interest at the responses since...

Basically, you didn't adhere to the organiser's request and suffered the consequences of your (a) ignoring simple instruction, and/or (b) your total disregard for the the others on your coach!

Seen it so many times in the past and (being honest) have wished so many times for the bus to pull off and leave the selfish stragglers behind!

As one says above, if it were a GENUINE reason to extend the stop then the organisers would both understand and make allowances for this!

Hopefully lesson learned and always assuming you are allowed on another trip (which I personally would NOT allow after this) you might consider your own actions and their consequences if you THINK you can do what YOU want when you want, because as this incident shows YOU CLEARLY CANNOT!

Glad it happened to you. You just MIGHT be a little more cooperative in the future; although I have my doubts judging by the ill-judge OP and your ill-thought 'justification' of it since!