Sat Jul 26, 2014 9:20 am
Military Junta wrote:ISIS isn't an legitimate government through whereas the people of Gaza had their voices heard at the ballot box and choose Hamas to control their Government. Now Israel aside you just have to ask yourselves why Egypt doesn't want the boarder open and that's because even they don't trust Hamas and this is coming from a country should be on their side of the argument!!!!
Sat Jul 26, 2014 9:28 am
antill_dunning wrote:Military Junta wrote:ISIS isn't an legitimate government through whereas the people of Gaza had their voices heard at the ballot box and choose Hamas to control their Government. Now Israel aside you just have to ask yourselves why Egypt doesn't want the boarder open and that's because even they don't trust Hamas and this is coming from a country should be on their side of the argument!!!!
Egypt aren't on their side since they overthrew their leader and sentenced god knows how many people to death, they want rid of Hamas now as well.
Sat Jul 26, 2014 9:38 am
Sat Jul 26, 2014 9:45 am
Sat Jul 26, 2014 9:58 am
shinyBlueGlue wrote:Israel have the power to wipe out Palestine in an instant with nuclear weapons. I dont believe that Israel are enjoying innocent people getting in the way, although Hamas put their rockets close to civilians, because they knew there would be condemnation. .. Rightly so.
Sat Jul 26, 2014 10:19 am
Military Junta wrote:They supported groups which promote child bombers
Sat Jul 26, 2014 10:23 am
Karl wrote:Military Junta wrote:They supported groups which promote child bombers
That child is not wearing a bomb. All children like wearing military clothing. These people grow up in oppression. You have no idea what you're talking about.
Stop spouting bollocks.
Sat Jul 26, 2014 10:27 am
Sat Jul 26, 2014 10:46 am
BLUEBIRD57 wrote:I suppose in a strip of turf 30miles long by 7miles wide its not easy to keep your weapons away from the population and still hide them.
Sat Jul 26, 2014 10:54 am
Sat Jul 26, 2014 11:14 am
Sat Jul 26, 2014 12:00 pm
A block wrote:Military Junta wrote:A block wrote:Military Junta wrote:A block wrote:Military Junta wrote:A block wrote:Military Junta wrote:They supported groups which promote child bombers
This isn't about Hamas. It is about innocent people being murdered. There is no justification for an innocent person to be killed in their home.
If Israeli people started getting murdered at the same ratio would you post images of blown up hospitals in Palestine by the Israelis and then say "this is the government they supported, one who attacks hospitals" and justify those actions?
Of course it's about Hamas as they were voted in by the people of Gaza!!!
Haven't answered my question.
How can you therefor not justify suicide bombers coming here an attacking us as a result of the war on Iraq.
It was our government who illegally started a war so therefor it is justified? Is the murder of lee rugby justified?
There was no question in the first place so stop attempting to twist Iraq and Lee Rigby in on this. Hamas was voted in by the people of Gaza and they knew what they were voting for in the first place
I'm not twisting anything I'm asking you pressing questions based on your morals and how you justify things.
Is the death of lee rigby justified as it is a result of us going to an illegal war in Iraq which our government, whom we voted in started?
Would the death of hundreds of Israelis be justified as they bombed a Palestinian hospital. This attack was made by the Israeli army and part of the government who the people of Israel elected.
Only the bonkers would even attempt to link the death of Lee Rigby to Iraq which happened around 10 years earlier. Hamas fired the rockets, Hamas killed those teenagers and send in child bombers so surelyIsrael has the right to defend itself ?
Sat Jul 26, 2014 12:05 pm
Karl wrote:Military Junta wrote:They supported groups which promote child bombers
That child is not wearing a bomb. All children like wearing military clothing. These people grow up in oppression. You have no idea what you're talking about.
Stop spouting bollocks.
Sat Jul 26, 2014 12:15 pm
Sat Jul 26, 2014 12:23 pm
Sat Jul 26, 2014 12:30 pm
Military Junta wrote:What also isn't getting reported much is that Israel have been letting emergency supplies like blood etc. through their boarder with Gaza WHILE THE CONFLICT HAS BEEN GOING ON!!!!! so surely if Israel really wanted these civilian casualties then they won't be doing that
Sat Jul 26, 2014 12:34 pm
AHERNE wrote:Military Junta wrote:What also isn't getting reported much is that Israel have been letting emergency supplies like blood etc. through their boarder with Gaza WHILE THE CONFLICT HAS BEEN GOING ON!!!!! so surely if Israel really wanted these civilian casualties then they won't be doing that
well thats very nice of them ..... blow them to bits first then offer emergency supplies of blood! haha! .... by the way you keep on about they were voted in ... i didnt realize kids voted in palestine .... maybe they should bring that in here to stop certain mp`s, am`s and councilliors getting voted in by us stupid adults who will vote for any tosser!
Sat Jul 26, 2014 12:38 pm
AHERNE wrote:Military Junta wrote:What also isn't getting reported much is that Israel have been letting emergency supplies like blood etc. through their boarder with Gaza WHILE THE CONFLICT HAS BEEN GOING ON!!!!! so surely if Israel really wanted these civilian casualties then they won't be doing that
well thats very nice of them ..... blow them to bits first then offer emergency supplies of blood! haha! .... by the way you keep on about they were voted in ... i didnt realize kids voted in palestine .... maybe they should bring that in here to stop certain mp`s, am`s and councilliors getting voted in by us stupid adults who will vote for any tosser!
Sat Jul 26, 2014 1:15 pm
Military Junta wrote:AHERNE wrote:Military Junta wrote:What also isn't getting reported much is that Israel have been letting emergency supplies like blood etc. through their boarder with Gaza WHILE THE CONFLICT HAS BEEN GOING ON!!!!! so surely if Israel really wanted these civilian casualties then they won't be doing that
well thats very nice of them ..... blow them to bits first then offer emergency supplies of blood! haha! .... by the way you keep on about they were voted in ... i didnt realize kids voted in palestine .... maybe they should bring that in here to stop certain mp`s, am`s and councilliors getting voted in by us stupid adults who will vote for any tosser!
Scrapping the barrel even more Aherne. There have been children killed by the rocket attacks which gave been fired from Gaza by Hamas and it's those constant rocket attacks which the response is about. Are you saying that a child from Gaza is more valuable than a child from Israel ? Because that's really how your comments are coming across
Sat Jul 26, 2014 1:15 pm
Sat Jul 26, 2014 1:18 pm
simon.wiesenthal wrote:AHERNE wrote:Military Junta wrote:What also isn't getting reported much is that Israel have been letting emergency supplies like blood etc. through their boarder with Gaza WHILE THE CONFLICT HAS BEEN GOING ON!!!!! so surely if Israel really wanted these civilian casualties then they won't be doing that
well thats very nice of them ..... blow them to bits first then offer emergency supplies of blood! haha! .... by the way you keep on about they were voted in ... i didnt realize kids voted in palestine .... maybe they should bring that in here to stop certain mp`s, am`s and councilliors getting voted in by us stupid adults who will vote for any tosser!
bottom line is you anti semetic............
its not about who are the aggressors.........its about hating jews........
Sat Jul 26, 2014 1:19 pm
Sat Jul 26, 2014 1:20 pm
jon1959 wrote:Military Junta wrote:AHERNE wrote: well if you think israel should just carry on with this one sided war then carry on boys .... heres a photo for you all to enjoy ... just thank god you werent born in palestine .... good night all
How on earth is this one sided when Hamas started firing the rockets ?
It depends on when you decide this 'started'. As some others have said it is very complex and goes back way beyond the formation of Hamas. It would also help if people didn't constantly equate opposition to the decisions of the Israeli government with anti-semitism. It is pathetic, and ignores the large numbers of Jewish people across the globe who are also campaigning against the actions of the Israeli government.
This stage of the conflict began in April after the Hamas-Fatah agreement to set up a National Unity Government across the Palestinian territories. The Israeli response was to end all talks with Palestinians, tighten the blockade on Gaza (the biggest open air prison in the world), arrest hundreds of Hamas supporters and kill a number of Palestinian youths.
The murder of the 3 Israeli boys has been put at Hamas' door. They deny it. It was probably done by one of the semi-autonomous groups that have a loose link with Hamas but dont act on their orders. Hamas started firing their rockets in response to the Israeli attacks on Gaza and their supporters. I don't agree with Hamas, I don't support them, but I can see why they do the only thing they think they can do to resist. I think they are wrong morally and tactically to keep firing the rockets, but no way are Hamas the initiators of this latest round of murder in Gaza (and a couple of victims in Israel)
The BBC hasn't been even handed in my view - but even they have now and then tried to explain the back-story:
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-middle-east-28371966
Someone above rubbished the idea that Israelis woke up one morning and decided to bomb Palestinians. I don't think that idea is rubbish at all. It is part of a deliberate political strategy to destabilise the Palestinian political/military groups and to undermine the international 'peace plan' that is painfully slowly moving towards a (probably unstable) 2 State Solution. There seems to be an expression in Israeli government circles for waking up one morning - every couple of years - and deciding to bomb Palestinians. According to the Israeli ambassador to the USA it is called 'mowing the grass'.
Sat Jul 26, 2014 2:09 pm
AHERNE wrote:Military Junta wrote:AHERNE wrote:Military Junta wrote:What also isn't getting reported much is that Israel have been letting emergency supplies like blood etc. through their boarder with Gaza WHILE THE CONFLICT HAS BEEN GOING ON!!!!! so surely if Israel really wanted these civilian casualties then they won't be doing that
well thats very nice of them ..... blow them to bits first then offer emergency supplies of blood! haha! .... by the way you keep on about they were voted in ... i didnt realize kids voted in palestine .... maybe they should bring that in here to stop certain mp`s, am`s and councilliors getting voted in by us stupid adults who will vote for any tosser!
Scrapping the barrel even more Aherne. There have been children killed by the rocket attacks which gave been fired from Gaza by Hamas and it's those constant rocket attacks which the response is about. Are you saying that a child from Gaza is more valuable than a child from Israel ? Because that's really how your comments are coming across
show me the pictures of all these israeli children killed in this current conflict junta
Sat Jul 26, 2014 2:14 pm
Military Junta wrote:AHERNE wrote:Military Junta wrote:AHERNE wrote:Military Junta wrote:What also isn't getting reported much is that Israel have been letting emergency supplies like blood etc. through their boarder with Gaza WHILE THE CONFLICT HAS BEEN GOING ON!!!!! so surely if Israel really wanted these civilian casualties then they won't be doing that
well thats very nice of them ..... blow them to bits first then offer emergency supplies of blood! haha! .... by the way you keep on about they were voted in ... i didnt realize kids voted in palestine .... maybe they should bring that in here to stop certain mp`s, am`s and councilliors getting voted in by us stupid adults who will vote for any tosser!
Scrapping the barrel even more Aherne. There have been children killed by the rocket attacks which gave been fired from Gaza by Hamas and it's those constant rocket attacks which the response is about. Are you saying that a child from Gaza is more valuable than a child from Israel ? Because that's really how your comments are coming across
show me the pictures of all these israeli children killed in this current conflict junta
When you say 'conflict' then are you saying this ground offensive or the whole conflict from start to finish ? Because those three teenagers would be a start surely ?
Sat Jul 26, 2014 2:27 pm
Sat Jul 26, 2014 2:35 pm
AHERNE wrote:Military Junta wrote:What also isn't getting reported much is that Israel have been letting emergency supplies like blood etc. through their boarder with Gaza WHILE THE CONFLICT HAS BEEN GOING ON!!!!! so surely if Israel really wanted these civilian casualties then they won't be doing that
well thats very nice of them ..... blow them to bits first then offer emergency supplies of blood! haha! .... by the way you keep on about they were voted in ... i didnt realize kids voted in palestine .... maybe they should bring that in here to stop certain mp`s, am`s and councilliors getting voted in by us stupid adults who will vote for any tosser!
Sat Jul 26, 2014 2:57 pm
maccydee wrote:AHERNE wrote:Military Junta wrote:What also isn't getting reported much is that Israel have been letting emergency supplies like blood etc. through their boarder with Gaza WHILE THE CONFLICT HAS BEEN GOING ON!!!!! so surely if Israel really wanted these civilian casualties then they won't be doing that
well thats very nice of them ..... blow them to bits first then offer emergency supplies of blood! haha! .... by the way you keep on about they were voted in ... i didnt realize kids voted in palestine .... maybe they should bring that in here to stop certain mp`s, am`s and councilliors getting voted in by us stupid adults who will vote for any tosser!
If roles were reversed Hamas wouldn't piss on them to put out their fire.
This is the same Palestinians who cheered in the streets after hearing of 9/11.
Sat Jul 26, 2014 3:18 pm
BLUEBIRD57 wrote:
So what are you trying to say Barnett.The side with the most casualties are the good guys?
Sat Jul 26, 2014 3:55 pm