O/T nigel Farage

If they won the general election I cant wait for the 31% tax and private health insurance we'd have to pay.

Did you read the manifesto at the timethen because you are incorrect as you convinently missed out that the first £15,000 which be tax free from earnings.

Some people on here really need to know facts rather than newspaper headings

Higher taxation, when put back into public services, is often a good thing. People moan about the NHS (of which may be privatised but can still get investment or government funding), people moan about the police etc. yet also moan about taxation.

You can't have it all. When you think you can and live a life of borrowing, borrowing, borrowing you end up financially in the ruins. Why do we not learn from our economic mistakes?

If UKIP are racist then Canada, Australia, Japan, etc. all countries that use VISA points systems and discriminate on anything from having family links in that country to speaking French as is the case in Canada are racist too. Yet of course when people within the UK want the same for the UK then its racist - its always the easiest thing to scream for these people as they have no solid argument whatsoever.

Why are we discriminating against Indian doctors in favour of Europeans who are unskilled? The system is a disgrace. The system should be based entirely on merit and what that person can bring to this country. If they can contribute they should be free to receive and take from the country they've paid into the pot of.

The European model is outdated, has seen numerous countries spiral into sorry states and normal people are feeling it - not your Brussels lot, but the normal people in Greece and Spain. People forget that. Let me ask you something, if federalisation is the way forward, as a pro European model we all buy into as the Lib Dems want, then why hasn't it worked in America? Why is unemployment in America so high? Why are there so many issues in America on numerous scales? Why are there numerous ghettos forgotten across America?

Europe, just like America, is made up of blocks all of which have their own issues. Using a blanket approach to tackle these issues is borderline insane. Issues need to be studied in depth on an individual basis. Countries/States should be fully free to govern themselves and serve the people residing within that country or state.

Higher taxation, when put back into public services, is often a good thing. People moan about the NHS (of which may be privatised but can still get investment or government funding), people moan about the police etc. yet also moan about taxation.

You can't have it all. When you think you can and live a life of borrowing, borrowing, borrowing you end up financially in the ruins. Why do we not learn from our economic mistakes?

If UKIP are racist then Canada, Australia, Japan, etc. all countries that use VISA points systems and discriminate on anything from having family links in that country to speaking French as is the case in Canada are racist too. Yet of course when people within the UK want the same for the UK then its racist - its always the easiest thing to scream for these people as they have no solid argument whatsoever.

Why are we discriminating against Indian doctors in favour of Europeans who are unskilled? The system is a disgrace. The system should be based entirely on merit and what that person can bring to this country. If they can contribute they should be free to receive and take from the country they've paid into the pot of.

The European model is outdated, has seen numerous countries spiral into sorry states and normal people are feeling it - not your Brussels lot, but the normal people in Greece and Spain. People forget that. Let me ask you something, if federalisation is the way forward, as a pro European model we all buy into as the Lib Dems want, then why hasn't it worked in America? Why is unemployment in America so high? Why are there so many issues in America on numerous scales? Why are there numerous ghettos forgotten across America?

Europe, just like America, is made up of blocks all of which have their own issues. Using a blanket approach to tackle these issues is borderline insane. Issues need to be studied in depth on an individual basis. Countries/States should be fully free to govern themselves and serve the people residing within that country or state.

Higher taxation is NEVER a good thing

Higher taxation is NEVER a good thing

Of course you're going to say that - you run your own business and want to ensure your profit margins remain as large as ever. Its fine for you.

High taxes have worked elsewhere in bringing together a progressive and sustainable society.

http://www.theguardian.com/money/2008/n ... en-welfare

It's typical left politics if anyone has different view points it's always the race card and the bullshit that is what our forefathers fought against in the second word war. And there ace card is if you dare to disagree with them you are a Fascist.
The left are worried about UKIP so they will try and tarnish them.

Im voting UKIP. It aint Racist to talk about imagration and I agree with him I would not like to live next door to a load of Romanians. And I bet the vast majority would not either. Bloody loony Lefties

why not? are you better than them?

And I suppose you would. I wonder if you would put your bins out thinking are the fookers gonna rifle through my rubbish. Would you always double lock your house ? Facts are facts at the end of the day. I would not live next to a Gypo site. And I would not want Romanian neighbours. I'm being honest here.

thank you for being honest...being a racist must be a difficult thing to admit, congratulations.

before you say you're not, look at the facts: you are judging somebody based on only knowing where they are from. even though if you're going by statistics; considering you live in wales you are more likley to be a victim of crime at the hands of another welsh person than any other.

and if you must know i live across the road from a polish couple, they are one of only two familys on my road that i speak to and they even have the spare keys to my house in case of emergency...but thats only because i got to know them and know they are honest and trust worthy. Something you would not give them the basic courtesy of doing apparently

It's typical left politics if anyone has different view points it's always the race card and the bullshit that is what our forefathers fought against in the second word war. And there ace card is if you dare to disagree with them you are a Fascist.
The left are worried about UKIP so they will try and tarnish them.

you've said you wouldn't want to live next to someone just because of the country they were born in.....HOW IS THAT NOT RACIST?!?!?!

Not going to get into a debate about it but if you vote Farage after his most recent interview it says a lot about you as a person. The man is a total bigot and hypocrit.

http://www.newstatesman.com/staggers/20 ... erview-lbc

You think it's racist for someone to say what we are all thinking? YOU are the real bigot.

It's funny you probably live in some middle class utopia where the little independent shop is bustling and the village green is full of kids. A place where everyone is white British/Welsh, you lot would have a fit if half of your area was swamped with immigrants like our city has been. City Road is like f*cking Baghdad nowadays.

What we are all thinking? Please don't try to justify your idiotic posts by including "we are all thinking" into it.

You have proven in this thread to be the biggest left wing, wishy washy, PC, green, bigoted, lunatic on this forum. UKIP are going to take this election by storm so you better get used to. The majority of people are sick to death of the EU and sick to death of being swamped by immigrants, deal with it.

LOL Wishy washy? PC? Green?

Let's see, Im definitely not bigoted like you. I look after my family and my own affairs. I don't blame foreigners for making a cock up of my life. Unlike some.

Swamped by immigrants? You mean like the 70's when many Asians had to come in ......because they held passports? Thanks to Britain's empire?

Immigrants? Lets see who the immigrants are? Do you mean a good few here, who are from immigrant stock? Would you like me to name them?

If someone is going to drone on about immigrants etc. then who is the bigot? Are you like the UKIP member who said shoot the poofters....something like that.

You haven't really thought this through have you?

There's always someone to blame in your life. Other than yourself of course.

You need to relax and get rid of all of that anxiety and anger......even get laid from time to time.

What are your thoughts on British people being economic immigrants to countries, like when people went to Germany to work, and took jobs away from German people, did they learn the language? when call centres go to foreign countries to pay cheaper wages

That was our forces and there were good reasons why Germans were not allowed in armed forces. Also we were protecting them from the Russians.

It's typical left politics if anyone has different view points it's always the race card and the bullshit that is what our forefathers fought against in the second word war. And there ace card is if you dare to disagree with them you are a Fascist.
The left are worried about UKIP so they will try and tarnish them.

This ^^^^^^

Im voting UKIP. It aint Racist to talk about imagration and I agree with him I would not like to live next door to a load of Romanians. And I bet the vast majority would not either. Bloody loony Lefties

why not? are you better than them?

And I suppose you would. I wonder if you would put your bins out thinking are the fookers gonna rifle through my rubbish. Would you always double lock your house ? Facts are facts at the end of the day. I would not live next to a Gypo site. And I would not want Romanian neighbours. I'm being honest here.

thank you for being honest...being a racist must be a difficult thing to admit, congratulations.

before you say you're not, look at the facts: you are judging somebody based on only knowing where they are from. even though if you're going by statistics; considering you live in wales you are more likley to be a victim of crime at the hands of another welsh person than any other.

and if you must know i live across the road from a polish couple, they are one of only two familys on my road that i speak to and they even have the spare keys to my house in case of emergency...but thats only because i got to know them and know they are honest and trust worthy. Something you would not give them the basic courtesy of doing apparently

Did I say Polish Einstein ?

Im voting UKIP. It aint Racist to talk about imagration and I agree with him I would not like to live next door to a load of Romanians. And I bet the vast majority would not either. Bloody loony Lefties

why not? are you better than them?

And I suppose you would. I wonder if you would put your bins out thinking are the fookers gonna rifle through my rubbish. Would you always double lock your house ? Facts are facts at the end of the day. I would not live next to a Gypo site. And I would not want Romanian neighbours. I'm being honest here.

thank you for being honest...being a racist must be a difficult thing to admit, congratulations.

before you say you're not, look at the facts: you are judging somebody based on only knowing where they are from. even though if you're going by statistics; considering you live in wales you are more likley to be a victim of crime at the hands of another welsh person than any other.

and if you must know i live across the road from a polish couple, they are one of only two familys on my road that i speak to and they even have the spare keys to my house in case of emergency...but thats only because i got to know them and know they are honest and trust worthy. Something you would not give them the basic courtesy of doing apparently

Did I say Polish Einstein ?

so you're just racist against romanians? simply because they were born on a patch of land that is now called romania? ...my apologies, thats much more acceptable

Im voting UKIP. It aint Racist to talk about imagration and I agree with him I would not like to live next door to a load of Romanians. And I bet the vast majority would not either. Bloody loony Lefties

why not? are you better than them?

And I suppose you would. I wonder if you would put your bins out thinking are the fookers gonna rifle through my rubbish. Would you always double lock your house ? Facts are facts at the end of the day. I would not live next to a Gypo site. And I would not want Romanian neighbours. I'm being honest here.

thank you for being honest...being a racist must be a difficult thing to admit, congratulations.

before you say you're not, look at the facts: you are judging somebody based on only knowing where they are from. even though if you're going by statistics; considering you live in wales you are more likley to be a victim of crime at the hands of another welsh person than any other.

and if you must know i live across the road from a polish couple, they are one of only two familys on my road that i speak to and they even have the spare keys to my house in case of emergency...but thats only because i got to know them and know they are honest and trust worthy. Something you would not give them the basic courtesy of doing apparently

Did I say Polish Einstein ?

id never wish direct harm upon anyone nukes, but it makes me happy knowing that one day people like you and attitudes like yours won't be around anymore, we as a society are becoming more tolerant despite what some political factions would have you believe. and reading back through your comments about sneaky romanians riffling through your bins reads like a figurative lumbering dinosaur in a world which it is not long for.
ideals like this will, with any luck, be completley eradicated from our society as time goes on and people become more educated and ideas like the ones you have spouted will be laughed at in much the same way we laugh at people for believing the sun was being eaten during an eclipse

It's typical left politics if anyone has different view points it's always the race card and the bullshit that is what our forefathers fought against in the second word war. And there ace card is if you dare to disagree with them you are a Fascist.
The left are worried about UKIP so they will try and tarnish them.

No matter how much you dress it up, UKIP are right wing and they are racist. That's why they appeal to idiots out there.

Let's blame someone else out there, other than ourselves of course.

Anyone who isn't worried about UKIP are with them. UKIP is led by an idiot.......look at his interview on LBC on you tube. The people who vote for them are bigger idiots.

It's typical left politics if anyone has different view points it's always the race card and the bullshit that is what our forefathers fought against in the second word war. And there ace card is if you dare to disagree with them you are a Fascist.
The left are worried about UKIP so they will try and tarnish them.

No matter how much you dress it up, UKIP are right wing and they are racist. That's why they appeal to idiots out there.

Let's blame someone else out there, other than ourselves of course.

Anyone who isn't worried about UKIP are with them. UKIP is led by an idiot.......look at his interview on LBC on you tube. The people who vote for them are bigger idiots.

Regardless of what UKIP are or stand for, a large majority of their voters/supporters/sympathisers are just normal people totally and utterly let down by the three main parties.

They are looking for someone to speak up for them. People who are sick and tired of being patronised, demonised and alienated by the neo liberal metropolitan elite.

What i find more sickening than these rabid attacks by middle class liberals on UKIP is the underlying resentment that these people have towards the disposessed of this country, people who have had enough of career politicians who couldnt give two ****s for them and their communities.

It's typical left politics if anyone has different view points it's always the race card and the bullshit that is what our forefathers fought against in the second word war. And there ace card is if you dare to disagree with them you are a Fascist.
The left are worried about UKIP so they will try and tarnish them.

No matter how much you dress it up, UKIP are right wing and they are racist. That's why they appeal to idiots out there.

Let's blame someone else out there, other than ourselves of course.

Anyone who isn't worried about UKIP are with them. UKIP is led by an idiot.......look at his interview on LBC on you tube. The people who vote for them are bigger idiots.

Regardless of what UKIP are or stand for, a large majority of their voters/supporters/sympathisers are just normal people totally and utterly let down by the three main parties.

They are looking for someone to speak up for them. People who are sick and tired of being patronised, demonised and alienated by the neo liberal metropolitan elite.

What i find more sickening than these rabid attacks by middle class liberals on UKIP is the underlying resentment that these people have towards the disposessed of this country, people who have had enough of career politicians who couldnt give two ****s for them and their communities.

I'm far from Middle class and I'm far from being a liberal.

I dont care what someone's back ground is. If they have the intelligence to see that UKIP appeal to people who are riddled with fear and lack of self esteem,then they are bordering on ok with me. I agree that the main parties are a joke. That wouldnt allow me to say "ah well, I'll give UKIP a go." I've got principles, and I wouldn't vote for such a party.

LOL Wishy washy? PC? Green?

Let's see, Im definitely not bigoted like you. I look after my family and my own affairs. I don't blame foreigners for making a cock up of my life. Unlike some.

Swamped by immigrants? You mean like the 70's when many Asians had to come in ......because they held passports? Thanks to Britain's empire?

Immigrants? Lets see who the immigrants are? Do you mean a good few here, who are from immigrant stock? Would you like me to name them?

If someone is going to drone on about immigrants etc. then who is the bigot? Are you like the UKIP member who said shoot the poofters....something like that.

You haven't really thought this through have you?

There's always someone to blame in your life. Other than yourself of course.

You need to relax and get rid of all of that anxiety and anger......even get laid from time to time.

Possibly the most ridiculous post we have seen on here. So everyone who has had enough of mass immigration has fucked up their lives, don't look after themselves or their families, are bigoted, are homophobic, haven't thought things through and need to get laid. Are you quite finished?

I am from immigrant stock myself, my ancestors came here to work and integrate. We are letting too many unskilled workers in that drive the wages down and take up a lot of social housing. I really cannot fathom how it must be to be as thick and deluded as you are.

LOL Wishy washy? PC? Green?

Let's see, Im definitely not bigoted like you. I look after my family and my own affairs. I don't blame foreigners for making a cock up of my life. Unlike some.

Swamped by immigrants? You mean like the 70's when many Asians had to come in ......because they held passports? Thanks to Britain's empire?

Immigrants? Lets see who the immigrants are? Do you mean a good few here, who are from immigrant stock? Would you like me to name them?

If someone is going to drone on about immigrants etc. then who is the bigot? Are you like the UKIP member who said shoot the poofters....something like that.

You haven't really thought this through have you?

There's always someone to blame in your life. Other than yourself of course.

You need to relax and get rid of all of that anxiety and anger......even get laid from time to time.

Possibly the most ridiculous post we have seen on here. So everyone who has had enough of mass immigration has fucked up their lives, don't look after themselves or their families, are bigoted, are homophobic, haven't thought things through and need to get laid. Are you quite finished?

I am from immigrant stock myself, my ancestors came here to work and integrate. We are letting too many unskilled workers in that drive the wages down and take up a lot of social housing. I really cannot fathom how it must be to be as thick and deluded as you are.

when you use insults instead of facts it really weakens your argument. and you've done that in basically every post

LOL Wishy washy? PC? Green?

Let's see, Im definitely not bigoted like you. I look after my family and my own affairs. I don't blame foreigners for making a cock up of my life. Unlike some.

Swamped by immigrants? You mean like the 70's when many Asians had to come in ......because they held passports? Thanks to Britain's empire?

Immigrants? Lets see who the immigrants are? Do you mean a good few here, who are from immigrant stock? Would you like me to name them?

If someone is going to drone on about immigrants etc. then who is the bigot? Are you like the UKIP member who said shoot the poofters....something like that.

You haven't really thought this through have you?

There's always someone to blame in your life. Other than yourself of course.

You need to relax and get rid of all of that anxiety and anger......even get laid from time to time.

Possibly the most ridiculous post we have seen on here. So everyone who has had enough of mass immigration has fucked up their lives, don't look after themselves or their families, are bigoted, are homophobic, haven't thought things through and need to get laid. Are you quite finished?

I am from immigrant stock myself, my ancestors came here to work and integrate. We are letting too many unskilled workers in that drive the wages down and take up a lot of social housing. I really cannot fathom how it must be to be as thick and deluded as you are.

when you use insults instead of facts it really weakens your argument. and you've done that in basically every post

I will insult those who insult me.

You have presented no facts.

I paid £15k tax last year but still gotta pay £35 a week school dinners, I paid £5k stamp last year but gotta pay £3k to get my teeth fixed, I have to repay £2500 odd family allowance, I pay council tax, road tax insurance premium tax, VAT, yet those bent cunts in Westminster claim for second homes, that we pay for. A European can land here and get housing, health care, benefit payments, even claim for the same family allowance that I have to repay even if their children are still in their home country. We NEED change in Westminster, a f*cking dramatic one and we ain't gonna have get it from Cameron, Milliband or Clegg or any of their minions.

LOL Wishy washy? PC? Green?

Let's see, Im definitely not bigoted like you. I look after my family and my own affairs. I don't blame foreigners for making a cock up of my life. Unlike some.

Swamped by immigrants? You mean like the 70's when many Asians had to come in ......because they held passports? Thanks to Britain's empire?

Immigrants? Lets see who the immigrants are? Do you mean a good few here, who are from immigrant stock? Would you like me to name them?

If someone is going to drone on about immigrants etc. then who is the bigot? Are you like the UKIP member who said shoot the poofters....something like that.

You haven't really thought this through have you?

There's always someone to blame in your life. Other than yourself of course.

You need to relax and get rid of all of that anxiety and anger......even get laid from time to time.

Possibly the most ridiculous post we have seen on here. So everyone who has had enough of mass immigration has fucked up their lives, don't look after themselves or their families, are bigoted, are homophobic, haven't thought things through and need to get laid. Are you quite finished?

I am from immigrant stock myself, my ancestors came here to work and integrate. We are letting too many unskilled workers in that drive the wages down and take up a lot of social housing. I really cannot fathom how it must be to be as thick and deluded as you are.

I was refering to your quotes..... "wishy washy, pc, loony left, green etc" you have more cliches than Alan Partridge. You generalise too much.....in fact its all you do. So your family were immigrants but its ok for you but not others? Yours lived the "Welsh dream" did they? lol Wales has always been a tip for people on low wages ....just like the NW of England and the West of Scotland.

I dont give a toss who you vote for, its the shite that you continuously spout about others......one generalisation after another. Its what makes you feel superior.

If you vote for a well known right wing party then dont complain when most people see what they stand for. Pull yur head out of sand. You're type belong on facebook......you know the type. Rememberance Sunday Poppies, Flag wavers with "lets put the Great back into Britain," You're living in the past. In fact you are Alf Garnett in Burberry. Always fecking whinging. Take my advice, don't move to OZ....you wouldn't last 6 months.

I was refering to your quotes..... "wishy washy, pc, loony left, green etc" you have more cliches than Alan Partridge. You generalise too much.....in fact its all you do. So your family were immigrants but its ok for you but not others? Yours lived the "Welsh dream" did they? lol Wales has always been a tip for people on low wages ....just like the NW of England and the West of Scotland.

I dont give a toss who you vote for, its the shite that you continuously spout about others......one generalisation after another. Its what makes you feel superior.

If you vote for a well known right wing party then dont complain when most people see what they stand for. Pull yur head out of sand. You're type belong on facebook......you know the type. Rememberance Sunday Poppies, Flag wavers with "lets put the Great back into Britain," You're living in the past. In fact you are Alf Garnett in Burberry. Always fecking whinging. Take my advice, don't move to OZ....you wouldn't last 6 months.

Lets open the borders to everyone, is that what you want? Our infrastructure would last all of 5 minutes. You are the archetypal wishy washy lunatic who shouts anyone down who has a differing opinion.

Answer me this please: Do you think this country has a problem with mass immigration and what controls would you like to see on immigration?

It's typical left politics if anyone has different view points it's always the race card and the bullshit that is what our forefathers fought against in the second word war. And there ace card is if you dare to disagree with them you are a Fascist.
The left are worried about UKIP so they will try and tarnish them.

No matter how much you dress it up, UKIP are right wing and they are racist. That's why they appeal to idiots out there.

Let's blame someone else out there, other than ourselves of course.

Anyone who isn't worried about UKIP are with them. UKIP is led by an idiot.......look at his interview on LBC on you tube. The people who vote for them are bigger idiots.

British independence may sound appealing but truth is we are heavilly reliant on european trade the consequences of this economy and our European relationships are unpresidented - anyone who votes UKIP are complete clowns especially if they are bringing kids in this world.

Parliments like UKIP are what start wars, also they start rifts beetween relationships this island would within a decade be cut off

Higher taxation is NEVER a good thing

Of course you're going to say that - you run your own business and want to ensure your profit margins remain as large as ever. Its fine for you.

High taxes have worked elsewhere in bringing together a progressive and sustainable society.

http://www.theguardian.com/money/2008/n ... en-welfare

Hang on, the taxes threshold has raisen hugely putting more money into peoples pockets and they are spending it which brings jobs. FACT and its also FACT that the UK ecomony is raising faster than any other ecomony in Europe.

You cant compare Sweden to the UK FFS as the population alone is comparing apples with pears

Im voting for UKIP

Im fed up with all the other parties & there policies that do not benefit Wales or Britain.

This is the answer

http://www.italylogue.com/about-italy/r ... italy.html

I was refering to your quotes..... "wishy washy, pc, loony left, green etc" you have more cliches than Alan Partridge. You generalise too much.....in fact its all you do. So your family were immigrants but its ok for you but not others? Yours lived the "Welsh dream" did they? lol Wales has always been a tip for people on low wages ....just like the NW of England and the West of Scotland.

I dont give a toss who you vote for, its the shite that you continuously spout about others......one generalisation after another. Its what makes you feel superior.

If you vote for a well known right wing party then dont complain when most people see what they stand for. Pull yur head out of sand. You're type belong on facebook......you know the type. Rememberance Sunday Poppies, Flag wavers with "lets put the Great back into Britain," You're living in the past. In fact you are Alf Garnett in Burberry. Always fecking whinging. Take my advice, don't move to OZ....you wouldn't last 6 months.

Lets open the borders to everyone, is that what you want? Our infrastructure would last all of 5 minutes. You are the archetypal wishy washy lunatic who shouts anyone down who has a differing opinion.

Answer me this please: Do you think this country has a problem with mass immigration and what controls would you like to see on immigration?

The UK are in the EU.....there are no restrictions on citizens from the EU. Do you class the EU as immigrants?

Let's give another thought to this, The UK are massive arms manufacturers, it brings in a fortune to the UK. If the UK left the EU, do you think that arms trade would benefit or slump? Its all very well stating "let's quit the EU" but financially it would be disastrous.

I would look elsewhere to put the blame on the UK's mess. Zero hour contracts (where's the incentive?), poor investment and education should be massively invested in.

As for shouting someone down, you're are the one who keeps coming up with throw away comments, wishy washy, loony left etc. You pick up on cliches and toss them around without really giving any thought. Your type needs someone to blame for their own misfortune. For example, would you be so voiciferous about the UK getting involved in Iraq and Afghanistan? Something that cost the taxpayer billions....not forgetting lives. Yet, let's blame immigrants for all the woes of the UK.

I was refering to your quotes..... "wishy washy, pc, loony left, green etc" you have more cliches than Alan Partridge. You generalise too much.....in fact its all you do. So your family were immigrants but its ok for you but not others? Yours lived the "Welsh dream" did they? lol Wales has always been a tip for people on low wages ....just like the NW of England and the West of Scotland.

I dont give a toss who you vote for, its the shite that you continuously spout about others......one generalisation after another. Its what makes you feel superior.

If you vote for a well known right wing party then dont complain when most people see what they stand for. Pull yur head out of sand. You're type belong on facebook......you know the type. Rememberance Sunday Poppies, Flag wavers with "lets put the Great back into Britain," You're living in the past. In fact you are Alf Garnett in Burberry. Always fecking whinging. Take my advice, don't move to OZ....you wouldn't last 6 months.

Lets open the borders to everyone, is that what you want? Our infrastructure would last all of 5 minutes. You are the archetypal wishy washy lunatic who shouts anyone down who has a differing opinion.

Answer me this please: Do you think this country has a problem with mass immigration and what controls would you like to see on immigration?

The UK are in the EU.....there are no restrictions on citizens from the EU. Do you class the EU as immigrants?

Let's give another thought to this, The UK are massive arms manufacturers, it brings in a fortune to the UK. If the UK left the EU, do you think that arms trade would benefit or slump? Its all very well stating "let's quit the EU" but financially it would be disastrous.

I would look elsewhere to put the blame on the UK's mess. Zero hour contracts (where's the incentive?), poor investment and education should be massively invested in.

As for shouting someone down, you're are the one who keeps coming up with throw away comments, wishy washy, loony left etc. You pick up on cliches and toss them around without really giving any thought. Your type needs someone to blame for their own misfortune. For example, would you be so voiciferous about the UK getting involved in Iraq and Afghanistan? Something that cost the taxpayer billions....not forgetting lives. Yet, let's blame immigrants for all the woes of the UK.

Britain was in a mess before zero hour contracts fella

Higher taxation is NEVER a good thing

Of course you're going to say that - you run your own business and want to ensure your profit margins remain as large as ever. Its fine for you.

High taxes have worked elsewhere in bringing together a progressive and sustainable society.

http://www.theguardian.com/money/2008/n ... en-welfare

Sweden and the UK are very different in many ways, which is why it would never work. That is why the Labour party did not put up the higher rate of tax to 50% until just before the last election. Once the tax rate rises above 43-45% then people start to look for ways of avoiding to pay, with one of the easiest being what Gordon Brown introduced, namely setting yourself up as a limited company and paying corporation tax which is a lower rate. Depending upon how much tax is to be avoided, some people also buy a Gibraltar passport for a £50,000 one off payment, allowing taxes to be paid there at the rate of 0% corporation tax. However, paying taxes in these ways also mean much higher accountancy fees, which is why the Treasury has raised £9b per year more taxes since the rate was reduced. Furthermore, in the year before the last election there were 53 billionaires in the UK, yet Labour only collected £10.1m in taxes from them. The figures were actually worse when analysed as £9.3m of the tax was paid by Dyson and the other 52 billionaires paid just £0.8m between them, so Labour were very good at helping the super rich. While Labour were in power the gap between the rich and the poor grew to the point where it was in the 1890's when the poor lived in workhouses. The only fair system of taxation is VAT and no income tax as those who want more luxury will pay more tax and the poor will pay less as food is zero rated (plus no exemption for people owning a property in the UK and living abroad for part of the year).

I was refering to your quotes..... "wishy washy, pc, loony left, green etc" you have more cliches than Alan Partridge. You generalise too much.....in fact its all you do. So your family were immigrants but its ok for you but not others? Yours lived the "Welsh dream" did they? lol Wales has always been a tip for people on low wages ....just like the NW of England and the West of Scotland.

I dont give a toss who you vote for, its the shite that you continuously spout about others......one generalisation after another. Its what makes you feel superior.

If you vote for a well known right wing party then dont complain when most people see what they stand for. Pull yur head out of sand. You're type belong on facebook......you know the type. Rememberance Sunday Poppies, Flag wavers with "lets put the Great back into Britain," You're living in the past. In fact you are Alf Garnett in Burberry. Always fecking whinging. Take my advice, don't move to OZ....you wouldn't last 6 months.

Lets open the borders to everyone, is that what you want? Our infrastructure would last all of 5 minutes. You are the archetypal wishy washy lunatic who shouts anyone down who has a differing opinion.

Answer me this please: Do you think this country has a problem with mass immigration and what controls would you like to see on immigration?

The UK are in the EU.....there are no restrictions on citizens from the EU. Do you class the EU as immigrants?

Let's give another thought to this, The UK are massive arms manufacturers, it brings in a fortune to the UK. If the UK left the EU, do you think that arms trade would benefit or slump? Its all very well stating "let's quit the EU" but financially it would be disastrous.

I would look elsewhere to put the blame on the UK's mess. Zero hour contracts (where's the incentive?), poor investment and education should be massively invested in.

As for shouting someone down, you're are the one who keeps coming up with throw away comments, wishy washy, loony left etc. You pick up on cliches and toss them around without really giving any thought. Your type needs someone to blame for their own misfortune. For example, would you be so voiciferous about the UK getting involved in Iraq and Afghanistan? Something that cost the taxpayer billions....not forgetting lives. Yet, let's blame immigrants for all the woes of the UK.

There have always been zero hours contacts and whats a fact is that Labour are shouting and screaming about them now when its a FACT that more people were on zero hour contracts during their 13 years in power than there are now

I was refering to your quotes..... "wishy washy, pc, loony left, green etc" you have more cliches than Alan Partridge. You generalise too much.....in fact its all you do. So your family were immigrants but its ok for you but not others? Yours lived the "Welsh dream" did they? lol Wales has always been a tip for people on low wages ....just like the NW of England and the West of Scotland.

I dont give a toss who you vote for, its the shite that you continuously spout about others......one generalisation after another. Its what makes you feel superior.

If you vote for a well known right wing party then dont complain when most people see what they stand for. Pull yur head out of sand. You're type belong on facebook......you know the type. Rememberance Sunday Poppies, Flag wavers with "lets put the Great back into Britain," You're living in the past. In fact you are Alf Garnett in Burberry. Always fecking whinging. Take my advice, don't move to OZ....you wouldn't last 6 months.

Lets open the borders to everyone, is that what you want? Our infrastructure would last all of 5 minutes. You are the archetypal wishy washy lunatic who shouts anyone down who has a differing opinion.

Answer me this please: Do you think this country has a problem with mass immigration and what controls would you like to see on immigration?

The UK are in the EU.....there are no restrictions on citizens from the EU. Do you class the EU as immigrants?

Let's give another thought to this, The UK are massive arms manufacturers, it brings in a fortune to the UK. If the UK left the EU, do you think that arms trade would benefit or slump? Its all very well stating "let's quit the EU" but financially it would be disastrous.

I would look elsewhere to put the blame on the UK's mess. Zero hour contracts (where's the incentive?), poor investment and education should be massively invested in.

As for shouting someone down, you're are the one who keeps coming up with throw away comments, wishy washy, loony left etc. You pick up on cliches and toss them around without really giving any thought. Your type needs someone to blame for their own misfortune. For example, would you be so voiciferous about the UK getting involved in Iraq and Afghanistan? Something that cost the taxpayer billions....not forgetting lives. Yet, let's blame immigrants for all the woes of the UK.

There have always been zero hours contacts and whats a fact is that Labour are shouting and screaming about them now when its a FACT that more people were on zero hour contracts during their 13 years in power than there are now

Any chance of punctuating? I'm sure there are a few Romanians who could do it for you.