teachers on strike today

The problemhas been that the job creation in the public sector absolutely bollooned during the Labour years to help keep the unemployment figures down then when the bubble bust you really have no choice other than make cutbacks as it cant carry on like this

7 hours a day and 13 weeks holiday.......wake up please and look around at others.....i have a duty to make sure my children go to school...i think teachers have to set an example

Stop them 6 months pay......lazy sods.

Another clown

Nice job, nice cosy pension and holidays. 'Fluffy and pink' performance management in a bubble away from the real world. The real public in the real world know the score and the vast majority are totally against this 1970's type action. Stop them 6 months pay if they strike or manage them out of their very cushy 'jobs'

Not just a clown but COCO the CLOWN

I do. Laws said as much.
Until I have proof that they HAVE I will take the stance of trusting my Union more than some devious self-serving MP.
It sickens me every time I see a Lib Dem MP talking Tory rhetoric. To think I voted for those back stabbers.

The problemhas been that the job creation in the public sector absolutely bollooned during the Labour years to help keep the unemployment figures down then when the bubble bust you really have no choice other than make cutbacks as it cant carry on like this

For once I agree with you.

As for the "Thats not the contract we signed". You could bet your last dollar the salary they initially signed up for has increased, but no complaint the contract was changing then.

The problemhas been that the job creation in the public sector absolutely bollooned during the Labour years to help keep the unemployment figures down then when the bubble bust you really have no choice other than make cutbacks as it cant carry on like this

For once I agree with you.

As for the "Thats not the contract we signed". You could bet your last dollar the salary they initially signed up for has increased, but no complaint the contract was changing then.

God you say some stupid things

The problemhas been that the job creation in the public sector absolutely bollooned during the Labour years to help keep the unemployment figures down then when the bubble bust you really have no choice other than make cutbacks as it cant carry on like this

For once I agree with you.

As for the "Thats not the contract we signed". You could bet your last dollar the salary they initially signed up for has increased, but no complaint the contract was changing then.

God you say some stupid things

Not at all.

In this contract you keep banging on about did they state that it was a lifetime contract, and conditions could only change for the better?

Why should we roll over and show our bellies when offered changes for the worse?

The problemhas been that the job creation in the public sector absolutely bollooned during the Labour years to help keep the unemployment figures down then when the bubble bust you really have no choice other than make cutbacks as it cant carry on like this

For once I agree with you.

As for the "Thats not the contract we signed". You could bet your last dollar the salary they initially signed up for has increased, but no complaint the contract was changing then.

God you say some stupid things

Not at all.

In this contract you keep banging on about did they state that it was a lifetime contract, and conditions could only change for the better?

Of course they didn't polo my friend, the teachers are lucky they have a strong ish union still as the government may back down for some of this, where as I work in retail and USDAW are f*cking awful pilsner arranged a piss up in a brewery and have absolutely no power to affect any new contract changes etc that my employers inflict on me just the way the private sector is speak up and your out is the way I see it these days

I do. Laws said as much.
Until I have proof that they HAVE I will take the stance of trusting my Union more than some devious self-serving MP.
It sickens me every time I see a Lib Dem MP talking Tory rhetoric. To think I voted for those back stabbers.

Unions leaders are even worse liars than politicans in my opinion and they see people like you as lemmings fighting their battles!!!

Why should we roll over and show our bellies when offered changes for the worse?

Its easy to strike when its public money your striking for. So you lose a few days pay, with the package your on whoppee f*cking dooo.

Go on strike in the private sector, could damage the business permanently, and everyones out of a job.

But why should what happens in the private sector undervalue a strike by teachers?
Having the choice and opportunity to strike is something to celebrate not frown upon.
I don't and never would comment on your career choice and your approach to your career.
Why the need to comment and criticise teachers when most of you have no idea what's going on?
Military Junga or whatever he's called didn't even know that Education wasn't fully devolved.
People are trying to argue about things without any first hand experience or knowledge. It's crazy.
Divide and conquer is in full swing people.

Why should we roll over and show our bellies when offered changes for the worse?

Its easy to strike when its public money your striking for. So you lose a few days pay, with the package your on whoppee f*cking dooo.

Go on strike in the private sector, could damage the business permanently, and everyones out of a job.

What makes you so arrogant to assume you can comment about "the package I'm on". You don't know me or my personal circumstances.
I won't correct your grammar as I'm on strike

Why should we roll over and show our bellies when offered changes for the worse?

Its easy to strike when its public money your striking for. So you lose a few days pay, with the package your on whoppee f*cking dooo.

Go on strike in the private sector, could damage the business permanently, and everyones out of a job.

Stop crying about the private sector you chose to work in it

Why should we roll over and show our bellies when offered changes for the worse?

Its easy to strike when its public money your striking for. So you lose a few days pay, with the package your on whoppee f*cking dooo.

Go on strike in the private sector, could damage the business permanently, and everyones out of a job.

What makes you so arrogant to assume you can comment about "the package I'm on". You don't know me or my personal circumstances.
I won't correct your grammar as I'm on strike

Why should we roll over and show our bellies when offered changes for the worse?

Its easy to strike when its public money your striking for. So you lose a few days pay, with the package your on whoppee f*cking dooo.

Go on strike in the private sector, could damage the business permanently, and everyones out of a job.

Stop crying about the private sector you chose to work in it

Stop crying about your overpaid missus being brought into line with the real world

Why should we roll over and show our bellies when offered changes for the worse?

Its easy to strike when its public money your striking for. So you lose a few days pay, with the package your on whoppee f*cking dooo.

Go on strike in the private sector, could damage the business permanently, and everyones out of a job.

What makes you so arrogant to assume you can comment about "the package I'm on". You don't know me or my personal circumstances.
I won't correct your grammar as I'm on strike

My taxes help pay for your over inflated package so I will comment on it if i wish.

7 hours a day and 13 weeks holiday.......wake up please and look around at others.....i have a duty to make sure my children go to school...i think teachers have to set an example

7 hours,you been at the glue ffs

7 hours a day and 13 weeks holiday.......wake up please and look around at others.....i have a duty to make sure my children go to school...i think teachers have to set an example

7 hours,you been at the glue ffs

Why should we roll over and show our bellies when offered changes for the worse?

Its easy to strike when its public money your striking for. So you lose a few days pay, with the package your on whoppee f*cking dooo.

Go on strike in the private sector, could damage the business permanently, and everyones out of a job.

Stop crying about the private sector you chose to work in it

Stop crying about your overpaid missus being brought into line with the real world

Is that the best you got

Why should we roll over and show our bellies when offered changes for the worse?

Its easy to strike when its public money your striking for. So you lose a few days pay, with the package your on whoppee f*cking dooo.

Go on strike in the private sector, could damage the business permanently, and everyones out of a job.

What makes you so arrogant to assume you can comment about "the package I'm on". You don't know me or my personal circumstances.
I won't correct your grammar as I'm on strike

My taxes help pay for your over inflated package so I will comment on it if i wish.

So what is my "over inflated package" exactly? And what do my taxes pay for?

7 hours a day and 13 weeks holiday.......wake up please and look around at others.....i have a duty to make sure my children go to school...i think teachers have to set an example

Stop them 6 months pay......lazy sods.

Another clown

Nice job, nice cosy pension and holidays. 'Fluffy and pink' performance management in a bubble away from the real world. The real public in the real world know the score and the vast majority are totally against this 1970's type action. Stop them 6 months pay if they strike or manage them out of their very cushy 'jobs'

Not just a clown but COCO the CLOWN

It seems you are fighting a losing battle in this thread and you have resorted to name calling to cover it up. We do not support this outdated military childish action. Get over it, we all know the score with teachers and their over paid jobs......just like other public sector workers always looking for an easier life at the expense of their service users. Striking is pathetic in this day and age........of course we are all clowns for having an opinion based on fact.

Why should we roll over and show our bellies when offered changes for the worse?

Its easy to strike when its public money your striking for. So you lose a few days pay, with the package your on whoppee f*cking dooo.

Go on strike in the private sector, could damage the business permanently, and everyones out of a job.

What makes you so arrogant to assume you can comment about "the package I'm on". You don't know me or my personal circumstances.
I won't correct your grammar as I'm on strike

My taxes help pay for your over inflated package so I will comment on it if i wish.

So what is my "over inflated package" exactly? And what do my taxes pay for?

Polo is sniffing the ink again he doesn't know what he is saying

7 hours a day and 13 weeks holiday.......wake up please and look around at others.....i have a duty to make sure my children go to school...i think teachers have to set an example

Stop them 6 months pay......lazy sods.

Another clown

Nice job, nice cosy pension and holidays. 'Fluffy and pink' performance management in a bubble away from the real world. The real public in the real world know the score and the vast majority are totally against this 1970's type action. Stop them 6 months pay if they strike or manage them out of their very cushy 'jobs'

Not just a clown but COCO the CLOWN

It seems you are fighting a losing battle in this thread and you have resorted to name calling to cover it up. We do not support this outdated military childish action. Get over it, we all know the score with teachers and their over paid jobs......just like other public sector workers always looking for an easier life at the expense of their service users. Striking is pathetic in this day and age........of course we are all clowns for having an opinion based on fact.

No i'm not Coco

Why should we roll over and show our bellies when offered changes for the worse?

Its easy to strike when its public money your striking for. So you lose a few days pay, with the package your on whoppee f*cking dooo.

Go on strike in the private sector, could damage the business permanently, and everyones out of a job.

What makes you so arrogant to assume you can comment about "the package I'm on". You don't know me or my personal circumstances.
I won't correct your grammar as I'm on strike

My taxes help pay for your over inflated package so I will comment on it if i wish.

So what is my "over inflated package" exactly? And what do my taxes pay for?

Your taxes are irrelvant, they are just recycled private sector taxes.

I do. Laws said as much.
Until I have proof that they HAVE I will take the stance of trusting my Union more than some devious self-serving MP.
It sickens me every time I see a Lib Dem MP talking Tory rhetoric. To think I voted for those back stabbers.

Unions leaders are even worse liars than politicans in my opinion and they see people like you as lemmings fighting their battles!!!

The unions have done more for the working man than any government has ever done

I dont understand why no one has faith in a union - when it comes down to it they will fight you're corner

It's a well documented fact that the public sector can't sustain itself hence why there lots of reforms of pensions and wages etc

We all know the coffers will run out and to dsw who mentions his taxes well news for you pal you tax and national insurance contributions won't even cover you pension when you retire hence the need for reform

The fact is the public sector has been living off the taxes of other for many years now, it's not their fault it's the governments fault for letting it get this way

The reason the private sector pensions and wages are like they are is so that they are sustainable long term simple as that there may be some private sector companies that could pay more in wages etc but they won't as profit is their game

Public sector has no worries about profit and now simply because Britain is skint they are finally reviewing where the money is going and clearly too much is being lost through public sector over inflated pensions and wages to some of the public sector jobs

We all have to suffer it I think it's only fair that the public sector does too

It's a well documented fact that the public sector can't sustain itself hence why there lots of reforms of pensions and wages etc

We all know the coffers will run out and to dsw who mentions his taxes well news for you pal you tax and national insurance contributions won't even cover you pension when you retire hence the need for reform

The fact is the public sector has been living off the taxes of other for many years now, it's not their fault it's the governments fault for letting it get this way

The reason the private sector pensions and wages are like they are is so that they are sustainable long term simple as that there may be some private sector companies that could pay more in wages etc but they won't as profit is their game

Public sector has no worries about profit and now simply because Britain is skint they are finally reviewing where the money is going and clearly too much is being lost through public sector over inflated pensions and wages to some of the public sector jobs

We all have to suffer it I think it's only fair that the public sector does too

But it wasnt the package they signed up for

Profit and loss is lost on public sector workers, Smakerz, they think we live in a country where money grows on trees.

It was stated today that since the teachers pension scheme began £84 billion MORE had been paid IN than paid OUT.
Where is the actual evidence that the pension scheme was unsustainable?
But beyond that- apart from pensions and pay has anyone got anything constructive or educated to say about my main reasons for striking as noted earlier in the thread?
Has anyone else named another job where your pay is directly reliant upon the performance of a child?
Does any have any knowledge of the grey areas which make PRP unmanageable and ineffective in education?
Does anyone have any idea at all about being a teacher- not knowing one- being one?
Because I really can't see how you can sit back and spout nonsense unless you have experienced it first hand.

It's a well documented fact that the public sector can't sustain itself hence why there lots of reforms of pensions and wages etc

We all know the coffers will run out and to dsw who mentions his taxes well news for you pal you tax and national insurance contributions won't even cover you pension when you retire hence the need for reform

The fact is the public sector has been living off the taxes of other for many years now, it's not their fault it's the governments fault for letting it get this way

The reason the private sector pensions and wages are like they are is so that they are sustainable long term simple as that there may be some private sector companies that could pay more in wages etc but they won't as profit is their game

Public sector has no worries about profit and now simply because Britain is skint they are finally reviewing where the money is going and clearly too much is being lost through public sector over inflated pensions and wages to some of the public sector jobs

We all have to suffer it I think it's only fair that the public sector does too

But it wasnt the package they signed up for

Profit and loss is lost on public sector workers, Smakerz, they think we live in a country where money grows on trees.

Quite clearly and that's another reason this country is in the mess it is! Most MPs come from the same background and these guys are the ones balancing the countries books lol

Never worked for a business that needs to make a profit to stay afloat yet they try and keep Britain afloat

It's a well documented fact that the public sector can't sustain itself hence why there lots of reforms of pensions and wages etc

We all know the coffers will run out and to dsw who mentions his taxes well news for you pal you tax and national insurance contributions won't even cover you pension when you retire hence the need for reform

The fact is the public sector has been living off the taxes of other for many years now, it's not their fault it's the governments fault for letting it get this way

The reason the private sector pensions and wages are like they are is so that they are sustainable long term simple as that there may be some private sector companies that could pay more in wages etc but they won't as profit is their game

Public sector has no worries about profit and now simply because Britain is skint they are finally reviewing where the money is going and clearly too much is being lost through public sector over inflated pensions and wages to some of the public sector jobs

We all have to suffer it I think it's only fair that the public sector does too

But it wasnt the package they signed up for

Profit and loss is lost on public sector workers, Smakerz, they think we live in a country where money grows on trees.

Quite clearly and that's another reason this country is in the mess it is! Most MPs come from the same background and these guys are the ones balancing the countries books lol

Never worked for a business that needs to make a profit to stay afloat yet they try and keep Britain afloat

Exactly.

Cut out all the MPs of this land, there are far too many, and just employ 10 of the best business minds in the country to sort it out.

Pay the likes of Sugar, Branson.etc a kings ransom to sort out this mess.