Bubbles bursting...complete domination

You don't seem to grasp the notion of opinion. Do you agree with mine or not?
Every conversation with you is strange since you never answer a straight question, albeit because you know by doing so will contradict yourself

I grasp it entirely. If you agreed with my notion initially then you would be within your conversational rights to now discuss it after the WBA game. You however said it was irrelevant and dismissed it.

To then wish to discuss it after the fact is also now a bit pointless.

Litigants is the word they use to describe that

So we know what I think and that hasn't changed from the outset. But what do you think?
In your opinion is it fair to judge monks points:game ratio against other swans PL managers at this early stage? After 4 games you were adamant it was, do you feel the same way now after 5?

So we know what I think and that hasn't changed from the outset. But what do you think?

I think its funny that before saturday you washed your hands with the debate and branded it pointless and now wish to discuss it again

In your opinion is it fair to judge monks points:game ratio against other swans PL managers at this early stage? After 4 games you were adamant it was, do you feel the same way now after 5?

it is not about fairness it is just about facts. You can compare anything to anything. Right now Monk's points per game ratio is the same as Laudrup managed with this squad, and he is our most successful manager in recent times, possibly of all time.

Signs are good.

All you've done is slate Laudrup for the past few months Roathie, so how can signs be good if he's getting similar results?

All you've done is slate Laudrup for the past few months Roathie, so how can signs be good if he's getting similar results?

Because our football is showing signs of getting back to the way it was. In a transitional period like this, to keep the record of the previous incumbent who I am certain would have kept us up anyway while showing intent rather than passive reactive football - that is very encouraging indeed.

This thread is funny

This thread is funny

Agreed

This thread is funny

Agreed

I think we find it funny for very different reasons

I think we find it funny for very different reasons

But mine is the right reason

The arrogance of ignorance.

The arrogance of ignorance.

And the correctness of the brilliant

So we know what I think and that hasn't changed from the outset. But what do you think?

I think its funny that before saturday you washed your hands with the debate and branded it pointless and now wish to discuss it again

In your opinion is it fair to judge monks points:game ratio against other swans PL managers at this early stage? After 4 games you were adamant it was, do you feel the same way now after 5?

it is not about fairness it is just about facts. You can compare anything to anything. Right now Monk's points per game ratio is the same as Laudrup managed with this squad, and he is our most successful manager in recent times, possibly of all time.

Signs are good.

By your logic if you disagree with a point of view then you can no longer discuss it. Yet that applies to 99.9% of your posts.
Threads would be very brief indeed. I think this, you think that, over in 2 posts.

It was you that stated you had to compare the whole tenure of a managerial stint, yet now you're only using laudrups record this season. Therefore admitting that your initial stance was indeed nonsense and that I was right

Banged to rights roathie

Monk has the best points per game ratio than any other Swansea Premier League manager.

Its like saying Messi is good so Welbeck must be too.

They are completely different people.

4 PL games? How does his first 4 games compare to laudrups first 4 PL games?

Makes no difference. The most accurate thing we can go on is judging their complete tenure and not just parts of them, as parts of them can be manipula on every game they have ever managed Swansea in the Prem.

And here's the post where you said it

Monk has the best points per game ratio than any other Swansea Premier League manager.

Its like saying Messi is good so Welbeck must be too.

They are completely different people.

4 PL games? How does his first 4 games compare to laudrups first 4 PL games?

Makes no difference. The most accurate thing we can go on is judging their complete tenure and not just parts of them, as parts of them can be manipulated. Im going on every game they have ever managed Swansea in the Prem.

Or rather this is. Pesky I phones

By your logic if you disagree with a point of view then you can no longer discuss it. Yet that applies to 99.9% of your posts. Threads would be very brief indeed. I think this, you think that, over in 2 posts.

thats not my logic at all. I gave a statistic and you said it was pointless, irrelevant and didnt show anything. So you now wanting to discuss it one match later is pointless, if you felt the discussion was pointless then, then its pointless now.

If you disagreed with the conclusion but agreed that the stat was relevant then you would have every right to now want to discuss the updated version of that stat. Unfortunately you are trying to have your cake and eat it and the fact im not allowing you is grinding your gears



It was you that stated you had to compare the whole tenure of a managerial stint, yet now you're only using laudrups record this season. Therefore admitting that your initial stance was indeed nonsense and that I was right

that can be said both ways.....

and it was you that said you had to compare parts and now you want to compare the whole thing

Also admitting that your initial stance was indeed nonsense and that I was right.

Banged to rights roathie

you certainly are

Grinding my gears? I'm laughing at you squirming

You forget my stance isn't up for debate. It's consistent. I'm asking you what yours is
So which is right? Comparing laudrup with monk this season or the whole tenure? Is is even a fair comparison in YOUR mind? Have you made your mind up yet?

Nobody is falling for your attempts to deflect from very simple questions.

Monk has the best points per game ratio than any other Swansea Premier League manager.

Its like saying Messi is good so Welbeck must be too.

They are completely different people.

4 PL games? How does his first 4 games compare to laudrups first 4 PL games?

Makes no difference. The most accurate thing we can go on is judging their complete tenure and not just parts of them, as parts of them can be manipulated. Im going on every game they have ever managed Swansea in the Prem.

Bump again

No shit. It's not irrelevant, how can you compare 4 games against 62 games and expect it to be meaningful?

Bump too

Grinding my gears? I'm laughing at you squirming

yeah sure you are you are the squirmer. Trying to have your cake and eat it and me not allowing it.

You have said it is pointless so any conversation 1 game later is the same according to you. Whats the point in having a pointless conversation

You forget my stance isn't up for debate. It's consistent. I'm asking you what yours is
So which is right? Comparing laudrup with monk this season or the whole tenure? Is is even a fair comparison in YOUR mind? Have you made your mind up yet?

so if your stance is the same then it renders the debate pointless as you think it shows nothing

Nobody is falling for your attempts to deflect from very simple questions.

dont have to fall for anything. You said it was a pointless discussion before the wba game, so it means your question is indeed pointless.

Maybe the penny will drop in a minute

No shit. It's not irrelevant, how can you compare 4 games against 62 games and expect it to be meaningful?

Bump too

Unlike you I stand by my posts. So do you agree with me now?

One minute you're comparing laudrups full tenure then only games this season. Which is it?

Grinding my gears? I'm laughing at you squirming

yeah sure you are you are the squirmer. Trying to have your cake and eat it and me not allowing it.

You have said it is pointless so any conversation 1 game later is the same according to you. Whats the point in having a pointless conversation

You forget my stance isn't up for debate. It's consistent. I'm asking you what yours is
So which is right? Comparing laudrup with monk this season or the whole tenure? Is is even a fair comparison in YOUR mind? Have you made your mind up yet?

so if your stance is the same then it renders the debate pointless as you think it shows nothing

Nobody is falling for your attempts to deflect from very simple questions.

dont have to fall for anything. You said it was a pointless discussion before the wba game, so it means your question is indeed pointless.

Maybe the penny will drop in a minute

For someone who doesn't want a pointless discussion you're sure making a lot of posts you mug
All drivel of course but then it's easier than admitting you have contradicted yourself.

So is it relevant or not in your opinion?

"Mug" you got Football factory on carps?

So is it relevant or not in your opinion?

Read my posts they are consistent.

Yours need clarifying as you've changed your mind. So what's your stance today?

So is it relevant or not in your opinion?

"Mug" you got Football factory on carps?

No but seems very apt

Beach calling, I'll check in later. No doubt you will have changed your mind a few times by then

So you don't think its relevant then?

So that then means your question is irrelevant.

Like I said you cant have your cake and eat it. If you didnt wish to discuss it with a dismissive tone prior to the WBA match the you must expect the same treatment after it. Not cake and eating on my watch carps

So you don't think its relevant then?

So that then means your question is irrelevant.

Like I said you cant have your cake and eat it. If you didnt wish to discuss it with a dismissive tone prior to the WBA match the you must expect the same treatment after it. Not cake and eating on my watch carps

After I dismissed the comparison as nonsense you continued to argue your viewpoint for many posts before the WBA game.
Seems I was having my cake and eating it on your watch then roath. Gorged on it in fact

Now all I ask is whether YOU still feel the comparison is just? Before you stated you had to compare a managers full tenure, now it's ok to compare only part of Laudrups. I take it then you agree with my posts before the WBA game?

So you don't think its relevant then?

So that then means your question is irrelevant.

Like I said you cant have your cake and eat it. If you didnt wish to discuss it with a dismissive tone prior to the WBA match the you must expect the same treatment after it. Not cake and eating on my watch carps

After I dismissed the comparison as nonsense you continued to argue your viewpoint for many posts before the WBA game.
Seems I was having my cake and eating it on your watch then roath. Gorged on it in fact

that makes no sense. Having your cake and eating it is dismissing an opinion for its basis and then wanting to use the same basis the very next game. Not on my watch pal

Now all I ask is whether YOU still feel the comparison is just? Before you stated you had to compare a managers full tenure, now it's ok to compare only part of Laudrups. I take it then you agree with my posts before the WBA game?

do YOU still feel the comparison is unjust then?

Ahem,exuse me butting in.you never answered me roath,regards what in the way of RESULTS had your scintallating total dominance football got you? And the reply of,it got you the lead at fecking half time is laughable,lets call the f.a. Swansea were pointless after dominating the first half and scoring!! f*cking cheeky west brom only scored more than them,why should they have all the points on offer! Mental you are kid.

Sorry,excuse I meant!

So you don't think its relevant then?

So that then means your question is irrelevant.

Like I said you cant have your cake and eat it. If you didnt wish to discuss it with a dismissive tone prior to the WBA match the you must expect the same treatment after it. Not cake and eating on my watch carps

After I dismissed the comparison as nonsense you continued to argue your viewpoint for many posts before the WBA game.
Seems I was having my cake and eating it on your watch then roath. Gorged on it in fact

that makes no sense. Having your cake and eating it is dismissing an opinion for its basis and then wanting to use the same basis the very next game. Not on my watch pal

Now all I ask is whether YOU still feel the comparison is just? Before you stated you had to compare a managers full tenure, now it's ok to compare only part of Laudrups. I take it then you agree with my posts before the WBA game?

do YOU still feel the comparison is unjust then?

I've not waivered from my opinion. What is your opinion and how many times has it changed today?

Here's some of your quotes to help you

"When comparing managers in the Premier League then you compare everything you have to go on. When comparing every match every Prem Swans manager has been in charge of - Garry Monk has the highest points oer game ratio"

"Whether it interests you isnt really the point. You can compare anything to anything, the more whole the comparison the more accurate it becomes"

Do you stand by your assertions above?