Rumour getting stronger regarding Malky/Cornelius/Tan

Wez says he hates rumours and gossip when it's bad about Tan, yet seems to totally accept this one.

Wez says he hates rumours and gossip when it's bad about Tan, yet seems to totally accept this one.

Stop shit stirring Chuckles dear.

These alleged bungs.....

What are they bungs for? i cant think of a situation why Malky would require a bung when signing someone? For what purpose does someone give Malky money?

These alleged bungs.....

What are they bungs for? i cant think of a situation why Malky would require a bung when signing someone? For what purpose does someone give Malky money?

are you thick

Wez says he hates rumours and gossip when it's bad about Tan, yet seems to totally accept this one.

Stop shit stirring Chuckles dear.
You Chuckles dear are grumbling about gossip when you felt it was your right to complain about fans smoking weed in a certain pub that was no more after that. Hope you were proud.

Wez says he hates rumours and gossip when it's bad about Tan, yet seems to totally accept this one.

Stop shit stirring Chuckles dear.
You Chuckles dear are grumbling about gossip when you felt it was your right to complain about fans smoking weed in a certain pub that was no more after that. Hope you were proud.

its outlawed unless he himself, dictator Chuckles decides to start puffing eh

TAN without the money?

I'd heard just after Moody was gone that the reason was he was taking a bung-more common than you think in British football but I suppose this was alien to Tan.

I'd heard just after Moody was gone that the reason was he was taking a bung-more common than you think in British football but I suppose this was alien to Tan.

its f*cking alien to me as well mate....you catch someone with fingers in till you get shot, i always have, proof isnt always simple,but its often a case of you just know.
people need to get with the real world honestly

These alleged bungs.....

What are they bungs for? i cant think of a situation why Malky would require a bung when signing someone? For what purpose does someone give Malky money?

are you thick

Dont think so

These alleged bungs.....

What are they bungs for? i cant think of a situation why Malky would require a bung when signing someone? For what purpose does someone give Malky money?

are you thick

Dont think so

i didnt think you were either..but seriously?..why would malky want money..same as me mate..TO SPEND

These alleged bungs.....

What are they bungs for? i cant think of a situation why Malky would require a bung when signing someone? For what purpose does someone give Malky money?

are you thick

Dont think so

i didnt think you were either..but seriously?..why would malky want money..same as me mate..TO SPEND

You seriously think my question was why does malky want money? I want money too, can someone give me a bung? However there is no reason for someone to give me a bung....

So, my question was, why would someone want to give malky a bung.

These alleged bungs.....

What are they bungs for? i cant think of a situation why Malky would require a bung when signing someone? For what purpose does someone give Malky money?

are you thick

Dont think so

i didnt think you were either..but seriously?..why would malky want money..same as me mate..TO SPEND

You seriously think my question was why does malky want money? I want money too, can someone give me a bung? However there is no reason for someone to give me a bung....

So, my question was, why would someone want to give malky a bung.

look it happens..quite a lot in fact,even at lower levels,im not sure if your taking the mick here because you like to potray yourself as thefont of knowledge and a very successful businness man.......people get offered bungs to get what they want..eg a player to be transffered from club a to club b at an inflated price and salary. or a council contract to lets say install central heating, or get grant work. the guy giving out the contract gets a bag full of paper with the queens head on them..the person handing the bag over gets the contract...........do you want to know why people wipe their arses?

These alleged bungs.....

What are they bungs for? i cant think of a situation why Malky would require a bung when signing someone? For what purpose does someone give Malky money?

are you thick

Dont think so

i didnt think you were either..but seriously?..why would malky want money..same as me mate..TO SPEND

You seriously think my question was why does malky want money? I want money too, can someone give me a bung? However there is no reason for someone to give me a bung....

So, my question was, why would someone want to give malky a bung.

Even though there was no bung, do you know how they work? If you ask that question as why would someone give Malky a bung thrn obviously not.

Agents take a % of a players contract, not just the fee but the wages and signing on fee. Agent says to prospective new manager "give my client £45k per week (when player is clearly not worth it) ill give you a cut of the % ill make. Its not hard Roathie.

for the record, Malky being called Milky has nothing to do with transfer bungs.

look it happens..quite a lot in fact,even at lower levels,im not sure if your taking the mick here because you like to potray yourself as thefont of knowledge and a very successful businness man.......people get offered bungs to get what they want..eg a player to be transffered from club a to club b at an inflated price and salary. or a council contract to lets say install central heating, or get grant work. the guy giving out the contract gets a bag full of paper with the queens head on them..the person handing the bag over gets the contract...........do you want to know why people wipe their arses?

I don't make myself out as anything. Now lets cut the nonsense, if you want to contribute then do it the manner we all are and stop being such an idiot.

Now then, lecture over.... Bungs, yep fully understand they happen. Not disputing it.

If a club wanted a cardiff player then I can understand a bung in order for Malky to let him go. If Malky wanted a player I can see a situation where Malky or Cardiff would pay a bung.

However my question (which still hasnt been answered) is - if Malky is the buyer, then why is he receiving a bung?

Even though there was no bung, do you know how they work? If you ask that question as why would someone give Malky a bung thrn obviously not.

Agents take a % of a players contract, not just the fee but the wages and signing on fee. Agent says to prospective new manager "give my client £45k per week (when player is clearly not worth it) ill give you a cut of the % ill make. Its not hard Roathie.

for the record, Malky being called Milky has nothing to do with transfer bungs.

But that makes no sense. I assume you don't understand the role of the manager in a transfer situation then.

The manager will have no say what so ever in how much a player gets paid. So again, why would Malky receive a bung to sign a player HE wants? the bung in this situation (if existed) would be given BY Malky not TO malky.

Even though there was no bung, do you know how they work? If you ask that question as why would someone give Malky a bung thrn obviously not.

Agents take a % of a players contract, not just the fee but the wages and signing on fee. Agent says to prospective new manager "give my client £45k per week (when player is clearly not worth it) ill give you a cut of the % ill make. Its not hard Roathie.

for the record, Malky being called Milky has nothing to do with transfer bungs.

But that makes no sense. I assume you don't understand the role of the manager in a transfer situation then.

The manager will have no say what so ever in how much a player gets paid. So again, why would Malky receive a bung to sign a player HE wants? the bung in this situation (if existed) would be given BY Malky not TO malky.

Some managers still have free reign. Malky and Moody negotiated contracts when they were here. It was Moody's job. Nowadays bungs dobt happen as much because its club directors etc that handle contracts. Back years ago it used to be managers, hence the George Graham and John Jensen bung.

Like I said, no bung has been found during Malkys reign and his nickname by the players was regarding other deals not transfer related.

Even though there was no bung, do you know how they work? If you ask that question as why would someone give Malky a bung thrn obviously not.

Agents take a % of a players contract, not just the fee but the wages and signing on fee. Agent says to prospective new manager "give my client £45k per week (when player is clearly not worth it) ill give you a cut of the % ill make. Its not hard Roathie.

for the record, Malky being called Milky has nothing to do with transfer bungs.

But that makes no sense. I assume you don't understand the role of the manager in a transfer situation then.

The manager will have no say what so ever in how much a player gets paid. So again, why would Malky receive a bung to sign a player HE wants? the bung in this situation (if existed) would be given BY Malky not TO malky.

Some managers still have free reign. Malky and Moody negotiated contracts when they were here. It was Moody's job. Nowadays bungs dobt happen as much because its club directors etc that handle contracts. Back years ago it used to be managers, hence the George Graham and John Jensen bung.

Like I said, no bung has been found during Malkys reign and his nickname by the players was regarding other deals not transfer related.

If this was a thread about Moodie then id have no issues, however it was an accusation levelled at Malky hence the confusion.

Even though there was no bung, do you know how they work? If you ask that question as why would someone give Malky a bung thrn obviously not.

Agents take a % of a players contract, not just the fee but the wages and signing on fee. Agent says to prospective new manager "give my client £45k per week (when player is clearly not worth it) ill give you a cut of the % ill make. Its not hard Roathie.

for the record, Malky being called Milky has nothing to do with transfer bungs.

But that makes no sense. I assume you don't understand the role of the manager in a transfer situation then.

The manager will have no say what so ever in how much a player gets paid. So again, why would Malky receive a bung to sign a player HE wants? the bung in this situation (if existed) would be given BY Malky not TO malky.

go away and think about it eh...........you really are slow you know..and youll read this and roll your eyes,
malky being called milky by the way suggests he likes to milk things.....duh

go away and think about it eh...........you really are slow you know..and youll read this and roll your eyes,
malky being called milky by the way suggests he likes to milk things.....duh

Something tells me you dont know what you are talking about

look it happens..quite a lot in fact,even at lower levels,im not sure if your taking the mick here because you like to potray yourself as thefont of knowledge and a very successful businness man.......people get offered bungs to get what they want..eg a player to be transffered from club a to club b at an inflated price and salary. or a council contract to lets say install central heating, or get grant work. the guy giving out the contract gets a bag full of paper with the queens head on them..the person handing the bag over gets the contract...........do you want to know why people wipe their arses?

I don't make myself out as anything. Now lets cut the nonsense, if you want to contribute then do it the manner we all are and stop being such an idiot.

Now then, lecture over.... Bungs, yep fully understand they happen. Not disputing it.

If a club wanted a cardiff player then I can understand a bung in order for Malky to let him go. If Malky wanted a player I can see a situation where Malky or Cardiff would pay a bung.

However my question (which still hasnt been answered) is - if Malky is the buyer, then why is he receiving a bung?

i dont suffer fools mate..and there has never once been anything YOU have said thats even made me re think, which i very often do with some posters, its all parrot fashion with you . read the book remember it word for word but you dont GET things. why would Malky want a bung, ffs,,,,why would anyone eh.some world you live in
lecture my arse.

Even though there was no bung, do you know how they work? If you ask that question as why would someone give Malky a bung thrn obviously not.

Agents take a % of a players contract, not just the fee but the wages and signing on fee. Agent says to prospective new manager "give my client £45k per week (when player is clearly not worth it) ill give you a cut of the % ill make. Its not hard Roathie.

for the record, Malky being called Milky has nothing to do with transfer bungs.

But that makes no sense. I assume you don't understand the role of the manager in a transfer situation then.

The manager will have no say what so ever in how much a player gets paid. So again, why would Malky receive a bung to sign a player HE wants? the bung in this situation (if existed) would be given BY Malky not TO malky.

Some managers still have free reign. Malky and Moody negotiated contracts when they were here. It was Moody's job. Nowadays bungs dobt happen as much because its club directors etc that handle contracts. Back years ago it used to be managers, hence the George Graham and John Jensen bung.

Like I said, no bung has been found during Malkys reign and his nickname by the players was regarding other deals not transfer related.

If this was a thread about Moodie then id have no issues, however it was an accusation levelled at Malky hence the confusion.

They worked hand in hand together. Malky often referred to him as his right hand man. I have no doubt if Malky took one (which he didnt) then Moody took one aswell (which again, he didnt)

go away and think about it eh...........you really are slow you know..and youll read this and roll your eyes,
malky being called milky by the way suggests he likes to milk things.....duh

Something tells me you dont know what you are talking about

yes your f*cking book tells you

whats that saying...........you can take the man out of swansea, but can never take swansea out of the man

Gee whizz

My question was not why would Malky want a bung. As i said, i want one too can I get one just because id like one? No.

Now listen carefully. WHY would ANYONE want to GIVE Malky a bung. Not why would Malky wish to recieve one. WHY would anyone WANT TO GIVE HIM one.

Now then, digest it, think about it and come back with a sensible answer

go away and think about it eh...........you really are slow you know..and youll read this and roll your eyes,
malky being called milky by the way suggests he likes to milk things.....duh

Something tells me you dont know what you are talking about

why would anyone want a bung.............you put a name in..but its same thing in all walks of life..

WHY.............that one word sums you up pal.......WHY.

you must live a very narrow life.........one of them people that keeps asking while watching a film, can you explain that......

must go,i have WORK to do........maybe even bungs to give....

try watching the film back to school, its a comedy not factual, but its also a sort of how bungs work for beginners lesson too.

go away and think about it eh...........you really are slow you know..and youll read this and roll your eyes,
malky being called milky by the way suggests he likes to milk things.....duh

Something tells me you dont know what you are talking about

why would anyone want a bung.............you put a name in..but its same thing in all walks of life..

WHY.............that one word sums you up pal.......WHY.

you must live a very narrow life.........one of them people that keeps asking while watching a film, can you explain that......

must go,i have WORK to do........maybe even bungs to give....

try watching the film back to school, its a comedy not factual, but its also a sort of how bungs work for beginners lesson too.

Maybe bold may help...

MY QUESTION ISNT WHY HE WOULD LIKE ONE, MY QUESTION IS WHY SOMEONE WOULD WANT TO GIVE HIM ONE. THEY ARE COMPLETELY DIFFERENT QUESTIONS YET YOU KEEP INSISTING ON ANSWERING THE QUESTION IVE NOT EVER ASKED YOU

i think my deduction you have absolutely no idea what you are talking about is proven in that one poorly constructed passage you just wrote. You must have an IQ of a 9 year old

go away and think about it eh...........you really are slow you know..and youll read this and roll your eyes,
malky being called milky by the way suggests he likes to milk things.....duh

Something tells me you dont know what you are talking about

why would anyone want a bung.............you put a name in..but its same thing in all walks of life..

WHY.............that one word sums you up pal.......WHY.

you must live a very narrow life.........one of them people that keeps asking while watching a film, can you explain that......

must go,i have WORK to do........maybe even bungs to give....

try watching the film back to school, its a comedy not factual, but its also a sort of how bungs work for beginners lesson too.

Maybe bold may help...

MY QUESTION ISNT WHY HE WOULD LIKE ONE, MY QUESTION IS WHY SOMEONE WOULD WANT TO GIVE HIM ONE. THEY ARE COMPLETELY DIFFERENT QUESTIONS YET YOU KEEP INSISTING ON ANSWERING THE QUESTION IVE NOT EVER ASKED YOU

i think my deduction you have absolutely no idea what you are talking about is proven in that one poorly constructed passage you just wrote. You must have an IQ of a 9 year old

It's quite simple, the player is valued at £XXXX, however the selling team would like £YYYY, so Malky Agrees £XXXX amount with the player, gets the Value of £YYYY from tan and cops the inbetween...

If you wish to post with such authority I suggest you know your history a little better. George Graham is the only British manger to be found guilty of accepting a "bung" during a transfer deal. The deal involved the purchase by Arsenal of two Scandanavian players Pal Lyderson and John Jensen, the "bung" was payed to Graham by the players' agent Rune Huage.
Just to stress the alleged illegal payments were payed to the purchasing manger by the players' agent.
There appears to be no evidence that a similar situation has occurred in the case of the Cornelius deal, however, it suggests that payments to the purchasing manager have certainly happened in the past.
I'm certain you will disagree, but history is always a good source of evidence.

If you wish to post with such authority I suggest you know your history a little better. George Graham is the only British manger to be found guilty of accepting a "bung" during a transfer deal. The deal involved the purchase by Arsenal of two Scandanavian players Pal Lyderson and John Jensen, the "bung" was payed to Graham by the players' agent Rune Huage.
Just to stress the alleged illegal payments were payed to the purchasing manger by the players' agent.
There appears to be no evidence that a similar situation has occurred in the case of the Cornelius deal, however, it suggests that payments to the purchasing manager have certainly happened in the past.
I'm certain you will disagree, but history is always a good source of evidence.

Martyn, Martyn, Martyn. Read what I have said for once before going on a Roathie binge.

I simply asked what these bungs would be for. It is unusual for a bung to be given to a manager to sign a player HE wants. In the example of Geroge Graham, you will find managers back then had a major say in the contracts of the players he signed, including transfer fee - Clough being a key example.

I dont think Malky Mackay had any say what so ever in transfer fees or contract values, hence I fund it spurious to say the least.

go away and think about it eh...........you really are slow you know..and youll read this and roll your eyes,
malky being called milky by the way suggests he likes to milk things.....duh

Something tells me you dont know what you are talking about

why would anyone want a bung.............you put a name in..but its same thing in all walks of life..

WHY.............that one word sums you up pal.......WHY.

you must live a very narrow life.........one of them people that keeps asking while watching a film, can you explain that......

must go,i have WORK to do........maybe even bungs to give....

try watching the film back to school, its a comedy not factual, but its also a sort of how bungs work for beginners lesson too.

Maybe bold may help...

MY QUESTION ISNT WHY HE WOULD LIKE ONE, MY QUESTION IS WHY SOMEONE WOULD WANT TO GIVE HIM ONE. THEY ARE COMPLETELY DIFFERENT QUESTIONS YET YOU KEEP INSISTING ON ANSWERING THE QUESTION IVE NOT EVER ASKED YOU

i think my deduction you have absolutely no idea what you are talking about is proven in that one poorly constructed passage you just wrote. You must have an IQ of a 9 year old

It's quite simple, the player is valued at £XXXX, however the selling team would like £YYYY, so Malky Agrees £XXXX amount with the player, gets the Value of £YYYY from tan and cops the inbetween...

Thank you for helping out our mutual friend who was clearly struggling with what was being asked of him

As for your explanation. Doesnt stack up for me. Again - Moodie, the man with the budget source of player? maybe. Malky, the manager who simply hands over his list of players? not for me. Makes no sense, hence my point.

I read very carefully what you said, you asked the question" why would anybody provide a bung for Malky?"
History has shown quite categorically that purchasing a mangers are a target for agents in order to move their players on in lucrative deals where their signed players have fees attached that are not commensurate with their true worth.
How do you know what role Malky had in Cardiff's purchases this summer? You are once again talking without any real knowledge of the situation but making suppositions, you try to add gravitas to these "guesses" but "guesses they remain.
Do you have any evidence as to the extent of Malky's role in transfer deals this summer?
Stick to being patronising and condescending, you have a little ability in this area but it does get tedious!