Looks like even Moyes disagrees with Roathy

The Swansea fans are crazy, really. This argument It is really as stupid as a Swansea fan going to United pubs and arguing with the locals and saying Ole Gunnar Solksjaer cannot be a United legend because now he manages Cardiff. The answer will I
think be when Ole enters the pitch tomorrow night and will be embarrassing for the Swansea fans. It proves only the
stupidity and maybe blind hatred of all things Capital

Again, you fail to understand the distinction between Cardiff, the capital of Wales and Cardiff City. We don't hate our capital city, we merely amuse ourselves with the ridiculous laughing stock which is the football club that plays there!

The Swansea fans are crazy, really. This argument It is really as stupid as a Swansea fan going to United pubs and arguing with the locals and saying Ole Gunnar Solksjaer cannot be a United legend because now he manages Cardiff. The answer will I
think be when Ole enters the pitch tomorrow night and will be embarrassing for the Swansea fans. It proves only the
stupidity and maybe blind hatred of all things Capital

Again, you fail to understand the distinction between Cardiff, the capital of Wales and Cardiff City. We don't hate our capital city, we merely amuse ourselves with the ridiculous laughing stock which is the football club that plays there!

Not this instance. it is ridiculous attack on Ole legendary status at Old Trafford. He is adored there as will
be proven tonight. Legend. Loved. The suggestion was that he is not a legend. That suggestion was only
made because now he is manager at Cardiff. It is not different to Cardiff support saying Laudrup wasnt a
World Class footballer just because now he manages Swans. childish

To be loved and to be a legend are majorly different things. You are confusing "fans favourite" with "legend". As many people do... Including Man Utd fans. He is not a legend, the word is over used and is an insult to the greats. Nobody is denying he's loved my United fans.

He was a sub.

I think its up to the Untied fans to decided who and who isn't a club legend not some weirdo in Australia

I think its up to the Untied fans to decided who and who isn't a club legend not some weirdo in Australia

What about the fans that are tied up?

I think its up to the Untied fans to decided who and who isn't a club legend not some weirdo in Australia

What about the fans that are tied up?

To be loved and to be a legend are majorly different things. You are confusing "fans favourite" with "legend". As many people do... Including Man Utd fans. He is not a legend, the word is over used and is an insult to the greats. Nobody is denying he's loved my United fans.

He was a sub.

He made 366 appearances for Nan U inc 216 starts, scoring 126 goals. For a house bound armchair "fan" like you to dismiss him as merely a 'sub' is laughable and like most of your posts irrelevant

To be loved and to be a legend are majorly different things. You are confusing "fans favourite" with "legend". As many people do... Including Man Utd fans. He is not a legend, the word is over used and is an insult to the greats. Nobody is denying he's loved my United fans.

He was a sub.

He made 366 appearances for Nan U inc 216 starts, scoring 126 goals. For a house bound armchair "fan" like you to dismiss him as merely a 'sub' is laughable and like most of your posts irrelevant

Don't get all uppity now carps.

150 sub appearances and 216 starts says it all. He was not a first choice starter for an awful lot of his career. And many United players have higher goal tallys.... So why is he a legend? Because he scored 1 famous goal? Nonsense.

Legends are made by their actions not decided by people. People may decide who is their favourite or who they claim love for but im afraid legendary status is created and not merely decided upon by committee.

As i said earlier, someone was calling Frazer campbell a legend the other day thus showing how far removed people are from the meaning of the term.

To be loved and to be a legend are majorly different things. You are confusing "fans favourite" with "legend". As many people do... Including Man Utd fans. He is not a legend, the word is over used and is an insult to the greats. Nobody is denying he's loved my United fans.

He was a sub.

He made 366 appearances for Nan U inc 216 starts, scoring 126 goals. For a house bound armchair "fan" like you to dismiss him as merely a 'sub' is laughable and like most of your posts irrelevant

Don't get all uppity now carps.

150 sub appearances and 216 starts says it all. He was not a first choice starter for an awful lot of his career. And many United players have higher goal tallys.... So why is he a legend? Because he scored 1 famous goal? Nonsense.

Legends are made by their actions not decided by people. People may decide who is their favourite or who they claim love for but im afraid legendary status is created and not merely decided upon by committee.

As i said earlier, someone was calling Frazer campbell a legend the other day thus showing how far removed people are from the meaning of the term.

Uppity? Just calling it as it is

Of course people decide who legends are you tool. Is there some magic formula required then? Does a computer print a certificate out as soon as certain criteria are met, taking people out of the equation? As suggested on here Man U fans will determine his legendary status over time, not you.

So who decides if someone is worthy of being described as a legend if it is not the people observing these actions ?
Are you trying to tell us you are the only person who posts on this forum who is able to distinguish between a fan's favourite and a club legend?
The same person who sneered at Bellamy by using malicious gossip that had not been corroborated by either first or second hand evidence.
You really are an odious little turd shredder!

Uppity? Just calling it as it is

Of course people decide who legends are you tool. Is there some magic formula required then? Does a computer print a certificate out as soon as certain criteria are met, taking people out of the equation? As suggested on here Man U fans will determine his legendary status over time, not you.

Absolutely uppity with your jibes. Calm down man

Nope, im afraid thats not the case. Are you suggesting now that Frazier Campbell is a legend because a cardiff fan decided he was? Legends come to the forefront by their own achievements. They don't need people to pick them out of a crowd, they rise above the crowd.

I will repeat. Any legend could have a statue in their honour without question marks - they are legends. It would be ridiculous in the extreme to have on of OGS.

Legend status is the highest accolade you can achieve at a club... Yet when you compare someone like Solskjaer to someone like Ryan Giggs or Dennis Law it seems a little ridiculous doesnt it? But why? Because one is a true legend and the other is a fans favourite with a modern distorted "legend" status attached. You get called a legend for downing a pint in 6 seconds these days.

To be loved and to be a legend are majorly different things. You are confusing "fans favourite" with "legend". As many people do... Including Man Utd fans. He is not a legend, the word is over used and is an insult to the greats. Nobody is denying he's loved my United fans.

He was a sub.

I note Manchester fans do not class Solksjaer as a World legend. he is legendary to them.
Selma, Volsung, Rerir. All are Norwegian legends. Gelert the Dog is also legend of Wales.
They will remain legends, even if you one day discover they all have links to Cardiff and
say otherwise. Your narcissism is sneaking through again. Try Serotonin. It is said to work
for your disorder

So who decides if someone is worthy of being described as a legend if it is not the people observing these actions ?
Are you trying to tell us you are the only person who posts on this forum who is able to distinguish between a fan's favourite and a club legend?
The same person who sneered at Bellamy by using malicious gossip that had not been corroborated by either first or second hand evidence.
You really are an odious little turd shredder!

read the thread my stance is clear.

Can you ever contribute to a thread without mentioning other threads that have nothing to do with the on of which you post?

The point was Bellamy was not a good professional. Whether his latest actions are true or not (i believe they are) is irrelevant, as the opinion wasnt based on that. Hes already admitted smashing one of his team mates with a golf club for starters.

Now, back to the thread....

Uppity? Just calling it as it is

Of course people decide who legends are you tool. Is there some magic formula required then? Does a computer print a certificate out as soon as certain criteria are met, taking people out of the equation? As suggested on here Man U fans will determine his legendary status over time, not you.

Absolutely uppity with your jibes. Calm down man

Nope, im afraid thats not the case. Are you suggesting now that Frazier Campbell is a legend because a cardiff fan decided he was? Legends come to the forefront by their own achievements. They don't need people to pick them out of a crowd, they rise above the crowd.

I will repeat. Any legend could have a statue in their honour without question marks - they are legends. It would be ridiculous in the extreme to have on of OGS.

Legend status is the highest accolade you can achieve at a club... Yet when you compare someone like Solskjaer to someone like Ryan Giggs or Dennis Law it seems a little ridiculous doesnt it? But why? Because one is a true legend and the other is a fans favourite with a modern distorted "legend" status attached. You get called a legend for downing a pint in 6 seconds these days.

Denis Law a true legend. Why? he played maybe 80 games more than Solksjaer and they had a similar
goals return. What qualifies Law? Solksjaer helped Man Utd win far more trophies

To be loved and to be a legend are majorly different things. You are confusing "fans favourite" with "legend". As many people do... Including Man Utd fans. He is not a legend, the word is over used and is an insult to the greats. Nobody is denying he's loved my United fans.

He was a sub.

I note Manchester fans do not class Solksjaer as a World legend. he is legendary to them.
Selma, Volsung, Rerir. All are Norwegian legends. Gelert the Dog is also legend of Wales.
They will remain legends, even if you one day discover they all have links to Cardiff and
say otherwise. Your narcissism is sneaking through again. Try Serotonin. It is said to work
for your disorder

poor attempt sir.

But again, it matters little. A legend is a legend, they are because they are - it is not decided upon. OGS is not worthy of the treatment genuine legends get and would never get them. I go back to the statue scenario. It would be a ridiculous notion to have a statue of OGS yet the likes of Law and Best would be considered without a second thought. Why? Because they ARE legends.

Solskjaer is a fans favourite. I get that and not disputing it. But he isnt a legend.

He's a legend no doubt about it only a fool or someone who doesn't know football would deny it.

Uppity? Just calling it as it is

Of course people decide who legends are you tool. Is there some magic formula required then? Does a computer print a certificate out as soon as certain criteria are met, taking people out of the equation? As suggested on here Man U fans will determine his legendary status over time, not you.

Absolutely uppity with your jibes. Calm down man

Nope, im afraid thats not the case. Are you suggesting now that Frazier Campbell is a legend because a cardiff fan decided he was? Legends come to the forefront by their own achievements. They don't need people to pick them out of a crowd, they rise above the crowd.

I will repeat. Any legend could have a statue in their honour without question marks - they are legends. It would be ridiculous in the extreme to have on of OGS.

Legend status is the highest accolade you can achieve at a club... Yet when you compare someone like Solskjaer to someone like Ryan Giggs or Dennis Law it seems a little ridiculous doesnt it? But why? Because one is a true legend and the other is a fans favourite with a modern distorted "legend" status attached. You get called a legend for downing a pint in 6 seconds these days.

Denis Law a true legend. Why? he played maybe 80 games more than Solksjaer and they had a similar
goals return. What qualifies Law? Solksjaer helped Man Utd win far more trophies

Andy cole helped Man United win trophies, as did John O'Shea and Teddy Sheringham... And anyone else that played for Man United in the last few decades.

Dennis law scored 237 in 404 games and was one of the best of his generation.

Uppity? Just calling it as it is

Of course people decide who legends are you tool. Is there some magic formula required then? Does a computer print a certificate out as soon as certain criteria are met, taking people out of the equation? As suggested on here Man U fans will determine his legendary status over time, not you.

Absolutely uppity with your jibes. Calm down man

Nope, im afraid thats not the case. Are you suggesting now that Frazier Campbell is a legend because a cardiff fan decided he was? Legends come to the forefront by their own achievements. They don't need people to pick them out of a crowd, they rise above the crowd.

I will repeat. Any legend could have a statue in their honour without question marks - they are legends. It would be ridiculous in the extreme to have on of OGS.

Legend status is the highest accolade you can achieve at a club... Yet when you compare someone like Solskjaer to someone like Ryan Giggs or Dennis Law it seems a little ridiculous doesnt it? But why? Because one is a true legend and the other is a fans favourite with a modern distorted "legend" status attached. You get called a legend for downing a pint in 6 seconds these days.

The irony of you calling somebody uppity
Repeat all you want your not the person who decides. I'm not suggesting anything about Campbell or pint drinkers either.

I'm intrigued as to how people don't decide who legends are

Twenty five years after winning the treble, Manchester United decide to celebrate that remarkable " legendary" evening in the Nou Camp Barcelona by erecting a statue of Ole scoring that last gasp winning goal.
Ole gets a statue outside Old Trafford and nobody even raises a titter or an eyebrow.
Before, you counter with the inane argument that it is the moment that is being remembered, Ole was the player at the centre of that legendary moment. Therefore, worthy of special status in the eyes of Man Hester United fans. To them the people that really matter he will always be a legend and no pointless sneering from you will convince them otherwise.

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Uppity? Just calling it as it is

Of course people decide who legends are you tool. Is there some magic formula required then? Does a computer print a certificate out as soon as certain criteria are met, taking people out of the equation? As suggested on here Man U fans will determine his legendary status over time, not you.

Absolutely uppity with your jibes. Calm down man

Nope, im afraid thats not the case. Are you suggesting now that Frazier Campbell is a legend because a cardiff fan decided he was? Legends come to the forefront by their own achievements. They don't need people to pick them out of a crowd, they rise above the crowd.

I will repeat. Any legend could have a statue in their honour without question marks - they are legends. It would be ridiculous in the extreme to have on of OGS.

Legend status is the highest accolade you can achieve at a club... Yet when you compare someone like Solskjaer to someone like Ryan Giggs or Dennis Law it seems a little ridiculous doesnt it? But why? Because one is a true legend and the other is a fans favourite with a modern distorted "legend" status attached. You get called a legend for downing a pint in 6 seconds these days.

Denis Law a true legend. Why? he played maybe 80 games more than Solksjaer and they had a similar
goals return. What qualifies Law? Solksjaer helped Man Utd win far more trophies

Andy cole helped Man United win trophies, as did John O'Shea and Teddy Sheringham... And anyone else that played for Man United in the last few decades.

Dennis law scored 237 in 404 games and was one of the best of his generation.

Did the computer decide?

Uppity? Just calling it as it is

Of course people decide who legends are you tool. Is there some magic formula required then? Does a computer print a certificate out as soon as certain criteria are met, taking people out of the equation? As suggested on here Man U fans will determine his legendary status over time, not you.

Absolutely uppity with your jibes. Calm down man

Nope, im afraid thats not the case. Are you suggesting now that Frazier Campbell is a legend because a cardiff fan decided he was? Legends come to the forefront by their own achievements. They don't need people to pick them out of a crowd, they rise above the crowd.

I will repeat. Any legend could have a statue in their honour without question marks - they are legends. It would be ridiculous in the extreme to have on of OGS.

Legend status is the highest accolade you can achieve at a club... Yet when you compare someone like Solskjaer to someone like Ryan Giggs or Dennis Law it seems a little ridiculous doesnt it? But why? Because one is a true legend and the other is a fans favourite with a modern distorted "legend" status attached. You get called a legend for downing a pint in 6 seconds these days.

The irony of you calling somebody uppity
Repeat all you want your not the person who decides. I'm not suggesting anything about Campbell or pint drinkers either.

I'm intrigued as to how people don't decide who legends are

There is no irony there carps

Where have I said that I decide? You have suggested fans decide who is a legend yet dont think Campbell is even though a cardiff fan said he was... Where is the sense? Yet you know hes not because he isnt fitting of the title, his achievements speak for themselves.

Ive explained to you how people dont decide who legends are. Their achievements pick themselves. Legends achieve greatness through their incredible actions to which you may not see too often. Yet Solskjaers main achievement (scoring winner in champions league) is seen every year guaranteed. His goal has made him a fans favourite and will never have to buy a drink again in Manchester as a result... But he is not a legend.

To be loved and to be a legend are majorly different things. You are confusing "fans favourite" with "legend". As many people do... Including Man Utd fans. He is not a legend, the word is over used and is an insult to the greats. Nobody is denying he's loved my United fans.

He was a sub.

I note Manchester fans do not class Solksjaer as a World legend. he is legendary to them.
Selma, Volsung, Rerir. All are Norwegian legends. Gelert the Dog is also legend of Wales.
They will remain legends, even if you one day discover they all have links to Cardiff and
say otherwise. Your narcissism is sneaking through again. Try Serotonin. It is said to work
for your disorder

poor attempt sir.

But again, it matters little. A legend is a legend, they are because they are - it is not decided upon. OGS is not worthy of the treatment genuine legends get and would never get them. I go back to the statue scenario. It would be a ridiculous notion to have a statue of OGS yet the likes of Law and Best would be considered without a second thought. Why? Because they ARE legends.

Solskjaer is a fans favourite. I get that and not disputing it. But he isnt a legend.

Does a vestal virgin or celestial body appear from the sky and anoint people
'You are legend'

It is a subjective word. You would not have batted an eyelid about Man Utd fans calling
Solksjaer a legend. But then to Cardiff he went. and the Narcissism kicked in. Take your
serotonin!!!

Surely the act of describing someone as a legend is carried out by people? Who else could possibly describe an event or a person as legendary?

Twenty five years after winning the treble, Manchester United decide to celebrate that remarkable " legendary" evening in the Nou Camp Barcelona by erecting a statue of Ole scoring that last gasp winning goal.
Ole gets a statue outside Old Trafford and nobody even raises a titter or an eyebrow.
Before, you counter with the inane argument that it is the moment that is being remembered, Ole was the player at the centre of that legendary moment. Therefore, worthy of special status in the eyes of Man Hester United fans. To them the people that really matter he will always be a legend and no pointless sneering from you will convince them otherwise.

Yep you have already said this haven't you.

The fact you are trying to find a way in which Solskjaer can be in a statue shows exactly how ridiculous a notion it is - yet it shouldnt be if he is a true legend.

A statue of that kind would not be a statue in honour of Solskjaer alone but the remarkable game he contributed to. A moment in time, not a person.

You dont become a legend in a few minutes, thats ridiculous.

Uppity? Just calling it as it is

Of course people decide who legends are you tool. Is there some magic formula required then? Does a computer print a certificate out as soon as certain criteria are met, taking people out of the equation? As suggested on here Man U fans will determine his legendary status over time, not you.

Absolutely uppity with your jibes. Calm down man

Nope, im afraid thats not the case. Are you suggesting now that Frazier Campbell is a legend because a cardiff fan decided he was? Legends come to the forefront by their own achievements. They don't need people to pick them out of a crowd, they rise above the crowd.

I will repeat. Any legend could have a statue in their honour without question marks - they are legends. It would be ridiculous in the extreme to have on of OGS.

Legend status is the highest accolade you can achieve at a club... Yet when you compare someone like Solskjaer to someone like Ryan Giggs or Dennis Law it seems a little ridiculous doesnt it? But why? Because one is a true legend and the other is a fans favourite with a modern distorted "legend" status attached. You get called a legend for downing a pint in 6 seconds these days.

Denis Law a true legend. Why? he played maybe 80 games more than Solksjaer and they had a similar
goals return. What qualifies Law? Solksjaer helped Man Utd win far more trophies

Andy cole helped Man United win trophies, as did John O'Shea and Teddy Sheringham... And anyone else that played for Man United in the last few decades.

Dennis law scored 237 in 404 games and was one of the best of his generation.

Not all those goals were for Man Utd. Wayne Rooney has scored more goals for United than Denis Law
ever did So surely has a claim to be known as legendary?

Surely the act of describing someone as a legend is carried out by people? Who else could possibly describe an event or a person as legendary?

I can describe Price Harry as a Prince, but I wouldn't have made him a Prince. I can call Amir Khan an Olympic medalist, yet I wouldn't have chosen him to be one.

Legend status is born from incredible personal achievement standing you above the rest. Solskjaer doesn't have this.

Uppity? Just calling it as it is

Of course people decide who legends are you tool. Is there some magic formula required then? Does a computer print a certificate out as soon as certain criteria are met, taking people out of the equation? As suggested on here Man U fans will determine his legendary status over time, not you.

Absolutely uppity with your jibes. Calm down man

Nope, im afraid thats not the case. Are you suggesting now that Frazier Campbell is a legend because a cardiff fan decided he was? Legends come to the forefront by their own achievements. They don't need people to pick them out of a crowd, they rise above the crowd.

I will repeat. Any legend could have a statue in their honour without question marks - they are legends. It would be ridiculous in the extreme to have on of OGS.

Legend status is the highest accolade you can achieve at a club... Yet when you compare someone like Solskjaer to someone like Ryan Giggs or Dennis Law it seems a little ridiculous doesnt it? But why? Because one is a true legend and the other is a fans favourite with a modern distorted "legend" status attached. You get called a legend for downing a pint in 6 seconds these days.

The irony of you calling somebody uppity
Repeat all you want your not the person who decides. I'm not suggesting anything about Campbell or pint drinkers either.

I'm intrigued as to how people don't decide who legends are

There is no irony there carps

Where have I said that I decide? You have suggested fans decide who is a legend yet dont think Campbell is even though a cardiff fan said he was... Where is the sense? Yet you know hes not because he isnt fitting of the title, his achievements speak for themselves.

Ive explained to you how people dont decide who legends are. Their achievements pick themselves. Legends achieve greatness through their incredible actions to which you may not see too often. Yet Solskjaers main achievement (scoring winner in champions league) is seen every year guaranteed. His goal has made him a fans favourite and will never have to buy a drink again in Manchester as a result... But he is not a legend.

Denis Law, incredible actions? Once more.... Rooney has scored more goals already for Man Utd tham Law did
so why should Denis have this statue

So you admit that it is entirely possible that a statue of Solskjaer may very well appear outside Old Trafford. It is an entirely feasible notion neither worthy of merriment or raised.

Not all those goals were for Man Utd. Wayne Rooney has scored more goals for United than Denis Law
ever did So surely has a claim to be known as legendary?

Yes actually I believe they were all for Man United - those are the figures in the Man United website anyway.

Wayne Rooney has also scored more than Solskjaer, so do you consider him legendary too?

So you admit that it is entirely possible that a statue of Solskjaer may very well appear outside Old Trafford. It is an entirely feasible notion neither worthy of merriment or raised.

don't get desperate now Martyn.

As ive told you, the statue you talk of would not be of Solskjaer. The statue you describe would be a moment in time not a person.