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Re: BELLAMY last off the training pitch again

Thu Jan 23, 2014 6:07 am

beddaubluebird wrote:Finally, William because I am a busy man.
The original poster did not answer as you claim, you should read things more carefully.


the contradictions continue :lol:

"Finally" he says, even though you go on to post yet more dribble minutes later :lol:

If you read the thread properly you still wouldn't be as confused as you are :D


Re: BELLAMY last off the training pitch again

Thu Jan 23, 2014 6:09 am

Now I've answered your continued frustrated multi post rant with aplomb, i hope you have a productive day and your continued obsession with Roathie doesn't impact too much on your day :thumbup:

Re: BELLAMY last off the training pitch again

Thu Jan 23, 2014 7:36 am

In my humble opinion, numerous players who can be described as top professionals have not been model professionals. Cantona, Keane, Greaves, McGrath to name a few.
They deserve this status as top professionals due to the influence they have had on the teams they have played for, their achievements and the international honours they have gained.
In order to be top professional footballers, they have had to be truly professional with regard to the development of their undoubted skills, dedication to fitness and influence on team mates.
Therefore, all top professionals must be "true" professionals just as model professionals such as Scholes and Bobby Charlton have been.
Bellamy is without doubt, in my opinion, a top professional and therefore a "true" professional throughout his career.
He has been trusted to perform at the highest level by esteemed managers such as Sir Bobby Robson, Martin O'Neill, Rafa Benitez and Gary Speed. I trust their judgment and I have been so proud and pleased to see him play for Cardiff City.
I will be glad to read any evidence that contradicts my assertion that Bellamy is not a top professional and a "true" professional.

Re: BELLAMY last off the training pitch again

Thu Jan 23, 2014 7:43 am

beddaubluebird wrote:In my humble opinion, numerous players who can be described as top professionals have not been model professionals. Cantona, Keane, Greaves, McGrath to name a few.

nobody has mentioned top professionals. True professional was the terms used.

They deserve this status as top professionals due to the influence they have had on the teams they have played for, their achievements and the international honours they have gained.

that shows they are good players not good professionals. To suggest Cantona is after kicking a fan in the chest in the middle of a game is insanity. Great player but an awful professional.

In order to be top professional footballers, they have had to be truly professional with regard to the development of their undoubted skills, dedication to fitness and influence on team mates.

thats your left field definaition. You mistakenly are using your definition and applying it to everyone. Im not sure there are many people that will thinking kicking someone in the chest in the workplace in front of millions is indeed being a good professional.

Therefore, all top professionals must be "true" professionals just as model professionals such as Scholes and Bobby Charlton have been.

a top professional just means a professional playing at the highest level, it doesnt give any indication of their professionalism.

Bellamy is without doubt, in my opinion, a top professional and therefore a "true" professional throughout his career.

he is a professional as he is paid. But he is not a good professional due to the fact he has conducted himself unprofessionally on many an occasion.

He has been trusted to perform at the highest level by esteemed managers such as Sir Bobby Robson, Martin O'Neill, Rafa Benitez and Gary Speed. I trust their judgment and I have been so proud and pleased to see him play for Cardiff City.
I will be glad to read any evidence that contradicts my assertion that Bellamy is not a top professional and a "true" professional.

of course they have, he was a good player. As was paul gascoigne, however neither a good professionals. One was a drunk and the other attacked his teammate with a golf club and publicly fallen out with managers bringing the game and his clubs into disrepute. Im not sure why this is being argued... Well i am actually, its because I said it.

Re: BELLAMY last off the training pitch again

Thu Jan 23, 2014 7:52 am

Castro wrote:Is this the true pro that refused to play for Malky because he wasnt named on the bench :D


William you are such a fibber! Where in this question do you enquire of the original poster if he believes the allegation to be correct?
Wouldn't it have been more correct to simply ask " do you believe that this top professional is the man who refused to play for Malky because he wasn't named on the bench?
I think you can understand why I don't believe you can't you William?
Or is that too difficult for you?
What was his answer again?

Re: BELLAMY last off the training pitch again

Thu Jan 23, 2014 8:07 am

beddaubluebird wrote:
Castro wrote:Is this the true pro that refused to play for Malky because he wasnt named on the bench :D


William you are such a fibber! Where in this question do you enquire of the original poster if he believes the allegation to be correct?
Wouldn't it have been more correct to simply ask " do you believe that this top professional is the man who refused to play for Malky because he wasn't named on the bench?
I think you can understand why I don't believe you can't you William?
Or is that too difficult for you?
What was his answer again?


:lol: so if all fails go back to square one and continue to hector and bludgeon a failing perspective Martyn? :lol:

Okay ill happily oblige, lets go round in circles again. I enjoyed it last time so what the hell..

Bellamy is a poor professional, this has been proved time and time again in his career. Recently it was said on here that he even refused to play for you because he wasnt named on the bench for a certain match.

Upon reading this thread regarding Craig Bellamy's professionalism, I then asked if this is the same Craig Bellamy that has been so notoriously unprofessional in his career, none less that the recent surfacing of the story surrounding him. This was a genuine question as to whether he believes he did do this and if so if he has factored his unprofessional past into his deduction hes a good pro or whether he made up his mind solely in him practicing his free kicks. :laughing6:

Now then Martyn, what are you struggling with sunshine? For a "busy day" its nice you still find time to furiously debate with your hero. I did say I would hope your Roathie obsession wouldnt impact on your day, it seems my hopes were misguided :laughing6:

Re: BELLAMY last off the training pitch again

Thu Jan 23, 2014 8:24 am

William you are still fibbing! Read your question very carefully, you do not at any point ask the original poster about his opinion on whether the "true" professional he referred to had refused to play for Malky because he was not selected to play in the bench.
William anybody with any modicum of common sense can see you were using a rhetorical question to sneer at Craig Ballamy in an incredibly vain attempt to show how clever you are.
You really are an odious purveyor of gossip and lies to promote yourself as some sort of superior poster.

Re: BELLAMY last off the training pitch again

Thu Jan 23, 2014 8:33 am

Castro wrote:Is this the true pro that refused to play for Malky because he wasnt named on the bench :D


Strange. any rumour negative of Cardiff City you pounce on and believe written in the bible.
Never have you been positive. Swansea City is best Club right now for negativity yet do not
focus ever on them. Do you support Swansea?

Re: BELLAMY last off the training pitch again

Thu Jan 23, 2014 8:35 am

beddaubluebird wrote:William you are still fibbing! Read your question very carefully, you do not at any point ask the original poster about his opinion on whether the "true" professional he referred to had refused to play for Malky because he was not selected to play in the bench.
William anybody with any modicum of common sense can see you were using a rhetorical question to sneer at Craig Ballamy in an incredibly vain attempt to show how clever you are.
You really are an odious purveyor of gossip and lies to promote yourself as some sort of superior poster.


Martyn you are failing to grasp the nature of the question. As a reader of the question you can not tell me what the meaning of the question was.

Craig bellamy DID attack a teammate with a golf club, he admitted it. Craig Bellamy DID send abusive texts to fellow players. Craig Bellamy DID have many public bust ups with his managers - all bringing the game into disrepute.

Im sorry these facts uoset you but Bellamy is NOT a good professional whether he practices his free kicks or not :lol:

Now then, try not to think about me for a whole day. This level of obsession must be affecting your personal life, i haven't seen this level of constant obsession since my neice spent all day talking on Justin Bieber forums discussing him every hour of ever day. Thankfull she grew out of that, the fact you are a grown man is a little chilling.

Calm down :thumbup:

Re: BELLAMY last off the training pitch again

Thu Jan 23, 2014 8:37 am

larsanstrum wrote:
Castro wrote:Is this the true pro that refused to play for Malky because he wasnt named on the bench :D


Strange. any rumour negative of Cardiff City you pounce on and believe written in the bible.
Never have you been positive. Swansea City is best Club right now for negativity yet do not
focus ever on them. Do you support Swansea?


As ive told Martyn. Whether this story is true or not is irrelevant, he is not a good professional due to his past actions. I certainly do believe the stories emanating from the club as confirmed by Annis and others and have no reason to disbelieve it.

Sorry if it hurts.

Re: BELLAMY last off the training pitch again

Thu Jan 23, 2014 10:05 am

Im glad bellamy stood up against malky.
he had more of an influence at this club than malky.
if malky was such a maestro he would of done it first year.

we never looked too useful in the championship when bellers and noone were absent anyway

Re: BELLAMY last off the training pitch again

Thu Jan 23, 2014 10:05 am

Im glad bellamy stood up against malky.
he had more of an influence at this club than malky.
if malky was such a maestro he would of done it first year.

we never looked too useful in the championship when bellers and noone were absent anyway

Re: BELLAMY last off the training pitch again

Thu Jan 23, 2014 10:50 am

sloper_road_legend wrote:Im glad bellamy stood up against malky.
he had more of an influence at this club than malky.
if malky was such a maestro he would of done it first year.

we never looked too useful in the championship when bellers and noone were absent anyway


Why weren't you this outspoken during Malkys reign?

Re: BELLAMY last off the training pitch again

Thu Jan 23, 2014 11:02 am

sloper_road_legend wrote:Im glad bellamy stood up against malky.
he had more of an influence at this club than malky.
if malky was such a maestro he would of done it first year.

we never looked too useful in the championship when bellers and noone were absent anyway


Oh wow. :laughing6:

Re: BELLAMY last off the training pitch again

Thu Jan 23, 2014 7:05 pm

Castro wrote:
larsanstrum wrote:
Castro wrote:Is this the true pro that refused to play for Malky because he wasnt named on the bench :D


Strange. any rumour negative of Cardiff City you pounce on and believe written in the bible.
Never have you been positive. Swansea City is best Club right now for negativity yet do not
focus ever on them. Do you support Swansea?


As ive told Martyn. Whether this story is true or not is irrelevant, he is not a good professional due to his past actions. I certainly do believe the stories emanating from the club as confirmed by Annis and others and have no reason to disbelieve it.

Sorry if it hurts.


If somebody says to you Bellamy is model professional at Cardiff City and did not have argument
with Mackaay you would say Prove it!!
But the other side of rumour as it is negative toward Cardiff City you believe it immediately. So
your argument and opinion is worthless

Re: BELLAMY last off the training pitch again

Thu Jan 23, 2014 7:11 pm

sloper_road_legend wrote:Im glad bellamy stood up against malky.
he had more of an influence at this club than malky.
if malky was such a maestro he would of done it first year.

we never looked too useful in the championship when bellers and noone were absent anyway


You've got a point. We rode our luck a lot in the Championship as well. Marshall and Hudson were immense for us and bailed us out loads of times.

Re: BELLAMY last off the training pitch again

Thu Jan 23, 2014 7:26 pm

Barry Chuckle wrote:
sloper_road_legend wrote:Im glad bellamy stood up against malky.
he had more of an influence at this club than malky.
if malky was such a maestro he would of done it first year.

we never looked too useful in the championship when bellers and noone were absent anyway


Oh wow. :laughing6:


Leave the trolls to it Chuckles, a ridiculous post.